Mayweather: In My Life, I'll Never Do Business With Arum! - Boxing News
So this fight wont happen unless manny leaves Arum, will it ever happen?
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Mayweather: In My Life, I'll Never Do Business With Arum! - Boxing News
So this fight wont happen unless manny leaves Arum, will it ever happen?
I just cant buy the Arum thing anymore. I just cant. They should test that excuse for Peds?
Floyd is running out of excuses. Arum is Pac's prmoter, deal with it Floyd. It also sounds like Floyd is regurgitating Schafer's stance on not working with Arum. Golden Boy is ruining boxing.
I also don't get how Arum gets blamed for Pac-Mayweather not being made. The Golden Boy people blame him saying he needs to step aside. Sorry Schafer but that's not how things work. Also Schafer and Oscar need to get on the same page.
Floyd doesn't have to deal with it. He's the top boxer in the sport by a wide margin, and Pac no longer has any bargaining power.Quote:
Originally Posted by the wiz
Floyd doesn't need Pac. He did over 2 million PPV buys with Canelo. Pac just did 500k buys with Rios. Floyd is making multi-millions and by all accounts Pac is going broke.
Floyd's not the guy who has to jump through hoops to get this done.
Here we go again. Boxing is a BUSINESS. Floyd offered the fight to Pac a while Back...Pac refused because of PED testing. The facts NOW are this: Floyd is on top of the boxing world...Pac by all accounts is struggling mightily financially and no longer at the apex of his career. Add to the mix Arum...this fight is not going to happen on anyone's terms but Mayweather's. That is just the way shit works. Floyd doesn't need Manny...and Floyd isn't going to be goaded into a fight with him over the absurd "legacy" or "ducking" issue.
How is anyone defending Floyd on not taking this match???
When FMJ "offered" to fight PAC and used the PEDS as the reason to pull out. Who was PAC's promoter and Manager. Its the same f'king guys as before. Now, testing is no longer being brought up. Its back to blaming Arum. Arum was there back during the PED argument.
Now FMJ is saying the PAC shouldn't be the #1 Contender and isn't on FMJ's level. Well neither was 95% of his previous 45 opponents.
Yes FMJ does not need PAC... Who cares, if either fighter "need" each other... Boxing and its fans are the only things that really matter in this so called business. The Business is entertainment. And I want to be entertained. Make the f'ing fight already.
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Originally Posted by cnote111
Floyd used it as a reason to pull out? Why didn't Manny say "ok, I'll take your test" and shut him up then? Instead we were subjected to lines about how a pro fighter who has been through hell and spilled blood in the ring (and has numerous "prision"-looking tattoos) was AFRAID OF NEEDLES.
How is Bob Arum being Manny Pacquiao's promoter making Floyd jump through hoops?Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerFloyd doesn't have to deal with it. He's the top boxer in the sport by a wide margin, and Pac no longer has any bargaining power.Quote:
Originally Posted by the wiz
Floyd doesn't need Pac. He did over 2 million PPV buys with Canelo. Pac just did 500k buys with Rios. Floyd is making multi-millions and by all accounts Pac is going broke.
Floyd's not the guy who has to jump through hoops to get this done.
When Cotto left Arum the fight was made. And I truly believe Arum most of all is the culprit as to why this fight was not made on top of the whole I'm scared of needles thing and then the temporary stadium that was supposed to house the mega event blah blah blah. Arum is running out of milk and is now trying for the last drop vs Mayweather.
Its very easy to understand.
Bob Arum was Floyd's promoter from 1996-2006.
Bob Arum fucked Floyd over. Bob owes him money. He's admitted he owes him money. He has declared that he will not pay him the money owed.
Floyd wanted a guaranteed $20 million to fight Oscar. Bob would not grant that. So Floyd bought his way out of his contract for $750000 signed to fight Oscar under his own promotional name and made himself $30 million.
Now, if you've been fucked over by a former manager would you ever give them the opportunity to make money off you again?
Floyd said he would fight Pac is he left Arum. Floyd guaranteed Manny that he'd be paid more without Arum than he would with him.
We think with enough money on the table, people can and would and should break bread. But often times money isn't the issue- it's about trust and not wanting to do business with a scunt. Arum is a scunt. Period.
Why didn't he just say this from the beginning. :mad:
For starters, it's a well-known fact that fan interest in Floyd-Pac is nowhere as high as it was several years ago. But let's not kid ourselves. Everyone of us would watch if the fight were to happen. But wading through the B.S. and putting things in perspective.... this is the way it should go:
Floyd's claiming he will never do business with Arum. Floyd's job is to fight. He's already got enough money to live 3,000 lifetimes, so money should not be the issue. He'll get his mega-millions for fighting Pac whether it's Arum or Bubbles the chimp doing the promoting. So basically, Floyd needs to STFU.
The biggest obstacle to holding this fight is Richard Schaefer. He's another one who needs to STFU. Criticizing DLH Merry Christmas tweets to Arum is childish, petty, and full of self-interest. It's a well-known fact that Schaefer will do anything to torpedo plans to have this fight. Anything to avoid having Arum benefit from such an event. If that means f*ck the fans, so be it. But who's gonna make Schaefer stick his tongue up his ass? Oscar? Please. The poor guy's got enough problems with his rehab.
So basically, although we as fans shouldn't care whether the fight ever happens or not, the sad fact is we do. We do because we're always there to forgive and forget. Such is our nature. Promoters know this... and take advantage of it. Floyd is sticking his nose where it doesn't belong. By saying he won't do business with Arum, he's basically saying "f*ck the fans", I'll do what I please.
Arum's an old greedy bastard, but IMO is the least guilty of all the parties involved. Floyd and Schaefer need to STFU, and let old Arum and rehab Oscar iron out their differences in peace. Then and only then, might we have a fight we all know should've happened 3-4 years ago..... but will pay big PPV bucks to watch anyway.
Mayweather and Arum have bad blood, and Mayweather won't do business with him. That's Mayweather's right, and honestly I can't fault him. If a guy shortchanged and stole from me, then spent years badmouthing me, calling me a coward, overrated, ect, I wouldn't be too willing to put millions in his bank account.
It's Floyd's show now. Back when this fight mattered, Arum had a lot of bargaining power. Not anymore.
Pac should split with Arum.
Well first off its complete utter bullshit to point out Manny's ppv numbers as a reason not to fight him. Its beyond explanation its so ridiculous. The levels of assinitity (I needed a made up word) for such a claim are off the charts.With the exception of Hatton and Oscar none of Floyds opponents have done close to 1 million ppv buys. Just another reason ppv is plastic. Risk and reward has completely vanished from the land scape. This is where Floyd does more to hurt boxing then anyone has before him regardless of how good he is. He's to big. Yes this is prize fighting but the prize used to be because of the risk or at least part of it was. Manny is still the second best fighter in Floyds comfort zone. Doesn't that mean anything anymore? What sport is this?
Arum was with Floyd for ten years. When the Oscar fight was made Floyd wanted 20 million and Bob said no. Floyd said fk-you and bought out his contract for 750 grand and started promoting himself. He went on to make 30 million against Oscar. Now because of that, Floyd figures he was shorted in previous fights. Fair enough but we can go back as far as guys like Tex Rickard right through to King for the same types of acts committed by promoters and yet in the end save the colour barrier days, the best fought the best. Legacy won out in the end. Today those who want to pursue legacy cant get the fights because they wont sell PPV or are to dangerous:vd: Its fking pathetic. Its like a different sport. And I'm not trying to sound arrogant here but for those of you who have grown up with nothing else but this flavour era you will never understand and I kind of feel sorry for you. Its not even about boxing anymore. The sports been TMZ'd, highjacked if you will. If Floyd wanted to get back at Arum he'd demand a 70/30 split along with the overwhelming majority of all other revenue and then beat up his main tit. Get that phantom money back from Bob and belittle his main squeeze no doubt sending him into retirement in the process. Now that's payback.
Floyd did not want to fight Canelo, but after the dismal numbers Showtime (not Floyd said they were making the Canelo fight). Either Floyd, knowing he can't break any records without another big name as the draw, is trying to get as much help as possible or maybe this time if Floyd underperforms, Shiwtime will force him to fight Manny. And we all know that Floyd is doing everything possible to avoid that fight
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Originally Posted by IamInuit
I wasn't using Pac's numbers to say Floyd shouldn't fight him, I'm using them to indicate that Pac is no longer in Floyd's league in terms of prestige and generating money; Pac and Arum need Floyd, not vice versa.
You bring up guys like Tex Rickard and Don King... yeah, they fucked over fighters too, but when in history has a boxer had the luxury of actually sticking it to a promoter? Arum has admitted he fucked Floyd over, he's trashed-talked Floyd ever since he left him. The difference between Floyd and nearly every other fighter in the history of boxing is that he has the power to say "fuck you, I don't need you, I'm not putting a cent in your pocket." Guys didnt have the pull that Floyd does (especially when the mob ran boxing), so they had to bend over and take it in the ass.
IDGAF what business you're in: if you have the power to call the shots, you're going to call the shots. To expect someone to relinquish that power is unrealistic. If Bill Gates didn't want to do business with someone, he didn't do business with them. He didn't need to.
Any fighter who says he fights for the fans is either lying or a goddamn idiot. The point of boxing is to make as much money as you can, while you can, because the fans aren't going to be around when you retire, which is why we see so many past greats broke and/or brain damaged after they retire. There's no pension for boxers. What good was the fan's respect for Joe Frazier when he was a broke middle aged man living in a small room above a boxing gym.
Back in 2010, Floyd, GBP, Pac, and Arum had a responsibility to get this fight made. There was a divide among boxing fans who was the true #1 p4p, and both guys were held in the same regard.
There's no more reason to make that fight at this juncture. What has Pac done to get back in the Mayweather Sweepstakes? Beat a hand-picked, undersized patsy who was coming off a loss? Who gives a fuck?
And I know people will say "well what has Khan done", and I 100% agree, I think that's a bullshit fight too.
That's not the reason Floyd feels ripped off by Arum. Arum has admitted publicly to owing Floyd money and to deliberately withholding the payment of that money. He's been quite brazen about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
If Floyd were to make a 70/30 purse split with Pacquiao then it would only be Pacquiao getting screwed over. Arum would still make all the money and rip Manny off just like he rips all his fighters off. Floyd doesn't benefit from Manny being ripped off.
Payback for Floyd would be to have Manny ditch Arum to make the fight. That way he and Manny get all the money. Arum gets no money and Arum loses his top fighter.
Hmmmm well in that case then he's screwing Manny financially by not fighting him. His present state of affairs regarding cash is pretty well documented be it over generosity or foolishness. I just don't find the Arum excuse palatable anymore or things like ppv numbers. Its simply not relevant. I'd like to see these reports about Arum admitting to owing Floyd all this money. Don King probably owes a lot more to a lot more fighters. Same with the comments about Manny having to fight somebody to get in line. Its outrageous. I mean why that entire circus over testing if he never had the intent? Floyds super fans will say it was some kind of plan or ploy. There is a large portion of Floyd fans that cant or refuse to look at anything regarding Floyd objectively.Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless roccoThat's not the reason Floyd feels ripped off by Arum. Arum has admitted publicly to owing Floyd money and to deliberately withholding the payment of that money. He's been quite brazen about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
If Floyd were to make a 70/30 purse split with Pacquiao then it would only be Pacquiao getting screwed over. Arum would still make all the money and rip Manny off just like he rips all his fighters off. Floyd doesn't benefit from Manny being ripped off.
Payback for Floyd would be to have Manny ditch Arum to make the fight. That way he and Manny get all the money. Arum gets no money and Arum loses his top fighter.
Floyd doesn't owe Pacquioa anything so he's not screwing him over by not fighting him.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
He is however encouraging him to leave Arum and in doing so, he's trying to help him make more money. Pacquioa would make more money because he wouldn't have Arum ripping him off AND Floyd would agree to fight him so he'd make ALOT of MONEY.
Here's the link to an article where Arum admits to owing Floyd money and not intending to pay it:
Fight gets personal between Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Bob Arum - NY Daily News
So we don't get to see the fight because Arum owes Floyd money?
Finish fighting, Floyd. Arum owes you money and you want to get paid? Sue the shit out of him. Use a few of your millions to hire some good lawyers and sue Arum. Meanwhile, make your mega-millions and give fans what they want..... boxing.
Cant believe that there is no higher type of authority in the boxing world than both these promotors that can get this sorted and elimate all of this..pathetic.
I've read that Pacquioa gets 27% of his purse. The rest is kept by Arum.
What Floyd is doing is exposing the boxing promoter's absolute corruption and by doing so he may help to shift the balance of power from the promoter/manager to the fighter.
The fighter ends up with brain damage and suffers the broken bones, suffers thru the training, has the skill/heart. Why should the fighter only make 27%.
It's sad because a bunch of you claim to be fans of boxing but by complaining about not getting this ONE fight you're showing that you don't respect the fighters, their families or the sport.
You might think Floyd is a spoiled brat, but that doesn't mean that his actions aren't noble and that his efforts to change a sport aren't valid. If you put your idiotic hating aside you'll see Floyd has been championing anti doping, anti promoter/manager corruption and has ultimately been pro fighter.
27%!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless rocco
Why on earth has manny not made "pacman promotions" by now.
Is arum in the mafia or something?
How long is pacs contract?! For life!?
Look this is nuts. It’s like trying to justify Leonard/Duran 1 not happening because Leonard had a hard on for Ray Arcel. Fact of the matter is Floyd could break the ice to benefit all fans with a fight. This impasse is only going to get worse between the rival promoters. Yahoo sports did a story recently on the 25 most powerful people in boxing.
Anybody want to guess where Floyd sits? Y! SPORTS
That’s right folks, right behind Haymon. Now I’m not sure why Lampley is on there as no serious fan can take him serious and the list is a tad geocentric but Floyds rank is still valid. I don’t think he gets away with this if it wasn’t.
Again... is it Floyd's job to complain because Pac only keeps 27% of the purse and Arum gets the rest? No. That's between Pac and Arum. So now we're to believe that Floyd will hold out on fights because he's on this noble crusade against promoter corruption? C'mon. How is wanting to see the best fights available "not having respect for the fighters, families, etc, etc"? It's a pretty far reach, if you ask me. Boxing is a lot more simple when fighters stick to the business at hand..... fighting. Getting a raw deal from "X" or "Y" promoter? Can him... sue him... get rid of him. Others have done it. I'll glad give Floyd credit for a lot of things. Boxing's saviour is not one of them.
Ok. You're ok with a fighter refusing the best fight available because he can't stand the other guy's promoter. I'm not. Boxing is supposed to be a sport first. A business second. All we need are a few more Floyds to make sure the sport starts grinding to a complete halt.
Whoa! That was a quick retraction.
:headscratch:
Are you guys so stupid that you can't understand what I just wrote? You both seem to think you addressed and rebutted my previous posts but you clearly didn't understand what I was saying.
Floyd isn't on a crusade to fix boxing but his actions while initially intended to benefit him have farther reaching consequences that benefit fighters in the long term. Fewer steroids and more stringent testing will help ensure fighters are safer in the ring. It helps all fighters in the long run. Fighters being in control of their careers instead of having their careers dictated by managers who are corrupt and don't care for the fighters health, welfare, families etc...and who rob them of their purses... That benefits all fighters.
Floyd isn't worried about how much money Pacquioa is getting but he does want people to know that Manny is getting screwed by Arum. 27% is a terrible percentage to be getting for risking your life 3-4 times a year.
All you guys can think about is why YOU don't get to see Manny and Floyd fight. BOO HOO!
...and if you think boxing is a sport first and a business second-- then you're a moron!
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Originally Posted by ruthless rocco
We're boxing fans. What's wrong with that?
You're getting too emotional in your defense of Floyd and bashing of Arum. I'm not bashing Floyd nor am I a Floyd hater. I just think there's too many shenanigans in boxing that prevent the best fights from happening. And when the fighters themselves begin getting into the politics of the sport, it just makes things worse. No one's saying Arum should win a Nobel Peace prize anytime soon. Him and Don King are cut out of the same mold. But they've also done a lot of good for boxing, like them or not. And again... it's up to Pac to stand up for Pac's best interests. Floyd's hate for Arum shouldn't be a part of the equation. You're wrongly belittling fan interest in all this. If we don't demand the best fights take place..... then what's the point in having these fights at all? Who pays all the big bucks the fighters make for their fights? That's right... the FANS.
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Originally Posted by ruthless rocco
No.... just obviously not as jaded as you.
BTW, let me correct you. Boxing is a sport first. If there was no boxing... there'd be no business. Following me so far? Yes... boxing is big business. But it is first and foremost a sport. We don't dole out PPV dollars to watch Floyd, Arum, Golden Boy, or anybody else haggle over multi-million dollar contracts. Well.... at least I don't.
Now, ratchet down your angry little tone.... get yourself a nice, cool drink.... and come back with an answer when you're no longer foaming at the mouth. Ok?
My bad... You're right. The fighters...those guys that are literally killing themselves for our amusement--shouldn't get involved with the details or politics of the sport. They should just shut up and fight! They're clearly ruining the sport for all us money spending fans.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by ruthless rocco
We're boxing fans. What's wrong with that?
You're getting too emotional in your defense of Floyd and bashing of Arum. I'm not bashing Floyd nor am I a Floyd hater. I just think there's too many shenanigans in boxing that prevent the best fights from happening. And when the fighters themselves begin getting into the politics of the sport, it just makes things worse. No one's saying Arum should win a Nobel Peace prize anytime soon. Him and Don King are cut out of the same mold. But they've also done a lot of good for boxing, like them or not. And again... it's up to Pac to stand up for Pac's best interests. Floyd's hate for Arum shouldn't be a part of the equation. You're wrongly belittling fan interest in all this. If we don't demand the best fights take place..... then what's the point in having these fights at all? Who pays all the big bucks the fighters make for their fights? That's right... the FANS.
Whats the point in risking your life if you're giving 73% of your purse away to a fat fucks who have a stranglehold on the sport and don't care how they use or abuse you?
I don't see how you can say you're fan of boxing if knowing that guys are making less than 27% of their purses seems okay to you.
And yes, it makes me emotional to see idiots like you complain about being deprived of fights when you're just siting on your asses complaining about how these guys aren't dying for you the way you want them to.
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Originally Posted by ruthless roccoMy bad... You're right. The fighters...those guys that are literally killing themselves for our amusement--shouldn't get involved with the details or politics of the sport. They should just shut up and fight! They're clearly ruining the sport for all us money spending fans.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by ruthless rocco
We're boxing fans. What's wrong with that?
You're getting too emotional in your defense of Floyd and bashing of Arum. I'm not bashing Floyd nor am I a Floyd hater. I just think there's too many shenanigans in boxing that prevent the best fights from happening. And when the fighters themselves begin getting into the politics of the sport, it just makes things worse. No one's saying Arum should win a Nobel Peace prize anytime soon. Him and Don King are cut out of the same mold. But they've also done a lot of good for boxing, like them or not. And again... it's up to Pac to stand up for Pac's best interests. Floyd's hate for Arum shouldn't be a part of the equation. You're wrongly belittling fan interest in all this. If we don't demand the best fights take place..... then what's the point in having these fights at all? Who pays all the big bucks the fighters make for their fights? That's right... the FANS.
Whats the point in risking your life if you're giving 73% of your purse away to a fat fucks who have a stranglehold on the sport and don't care how they use or abuse you?
I don't see how you can say you're fan of boxing if knowing that guys are making less than 27% of their purses seems okay to you.
And yes, it makes me emotional to see idiots like you complain about being deprived of fights when you're just siting on your asses complaining about how these guys aren't dying for you the way you want them to.
That's about 3 "idiots" and 2 "morons". I can see you're quite emotional about the subject. First... the fighters who are, (ahem)... "killing themselves for our amusement". A word of advice: Don't watch so many old Roman movies. These are not Christians being thrown to the lions in the Roman Colosseum. These are athletes who chose..... CHOSE.... to pursue what is inherently a dangerous career/ sport. No guns pointed at heads..... no threats if you don't go out there and put on some boxing gloves. No. Free will.
Ok now about the 27% purses. Well.... I don't know about you.... but 27% of $10 million is still a hell of a lot of money. Is it a fair share? Of course the hell not. But what am I going to solve by boycotting a fight because fighter "X" is not getting his fair share? Is that what we should be doing? I don't know. I'm not the emotional one here.
Oh... and about the part about me wanting the fighters to die the way I want them to. I mean.... I don't want to insult you or nothing, but....... Aren't you being a little bit of a drama queen? Seriously.
Anyway, and on a serious note..... weren't you ignoring my posts before? What the fuck made you go back on that? Miss me?
;)
Listen Ruth.... love to stay and chat. But I gotta go and roam the city streets in search of people who might be killing themselves for my amusement. I'll see if those will die the way I want them to.
Meanwhile, I suggest a good laxative to resolve whatever is ailing you.
I really don't think you understand what I'm writing.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by ruthless rocco
That's about 3 "idiots" and 2 "morons". I can see you're quite emotional about the subject. First... the fighters who are, (ahem)... "killing themselves for our amusement". A word of advice: Don't watch so many old Roman movies. These are not Christians being thrown to the lions in the Roman Colosseum. These are athletes who chose..... CHOSE.... to pursue what is inherently a dangerous career/ sport. No guns pointed at heads..... no threats if you don't go out there and put on some boxing gloves. No. Free will.
Ok now about the 27% purses. Well.... I don't know about you.... but 27% of $10 million is still a hell of a lot of money. Is it a fair share? Of course the hell not. But what am I going to solve by boycotting a fight because fighter "X" is not getting his fair share? Is that what we should be doing? I don't know. I'm not the emotional one here.
Oh... and about the part about me wanting the fighters to die the way I want them to. I mean.... I don't want to insult you or nothing, but....... Aren't you being a little bit of a drama queen? Seriously.
Anyway, and on a serious note..... weren't you ignoring my posts before? What the fuck made you go back on that? Miss me?
;)
It's happened between you and I before. It doesn't matter what the content of my posts are... You just respond with remarks that don't address my points. I guess it makes you feel like you're debating with me. You may even feel like you're right because I have trouble countering your nonsensical counterpoints...but unless you respond to the actual content of my posts then I can't respond.
Also... Thanks for reminding me that I used to have you on ignore. I guess I'll have to do that again.
You are right, boxing is a business, first, last and always especially at the promoter level. Think about it, what else could it be?Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless rocco
I don't think he is being a drama queen. It's a fact that boxers take a chance every time they get in the ring. It's a fact that repeated blows to the head do damage the brain which can shorten a fighters life.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by ruthless roccoMy bad... You're right. The fighters...those guys that are literally killing themselves for our amusement--shouldn't get involved with the details or politics of the sport. They should just shut up and fight! They're clearly ruining the sport for all us money spending fans.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by ruthless rocco
We're boxing fans. What's wrong with that?
You're getting too emotional in your defense of Floyd and bashing of Arum. I'm not bashing Floyd nor am I a Floyd hater. I just think there's too many shenanigans in boxing that prevent the best fights from happening. And when the fighters themselves begin getting into the politics of the sport, it just makes things worse. No one's saying Arum should win a Nobel Peace prize anytime soon. Him and Don King are cut out of the same mold. But they've also done a lot of good for boxing, like them or not. And again... it's up to Pac to stand up for Pac's best interests. Floyd's hate for Arum shouldn't be a part of the equation. You're wrongly belittling fan interest in all this. If we don't demand the best fights take place..... then what's the point in having these fights at all? Who pays all the big bucks the fighters make for their fights? That's right... the FANS.
Whats the point in risking your life if you're giving 73% of your purse away to a fat fucks who have a stranglehold on the sport and don't care how they use or abuse you?
I don't see how you can say you're fan of boxing if knowing that guys are making less than 27% of their purses seems okay to you.
And yes, it makes me emotional to see idiots like you complain about being deprived of fights when you're just siting on your asses complaining about how these guys aren't dying for you the way you want them to.
That's about 3 "idiots" and 2 "morons". I can see you're quite emotional about the subject. First... the fighters who are, (ahem)... "killing themselves for our amusement". A word of advice: Don't watch so many old Roman movies. These are not Christians being thrown to the lions in the Roman Colosseum. These are athletes who chose..... CHOSE.... to pursue what is inherently a dangerous career/ sport. No guns pointed at heads..... no threats if you don't go out there and put on some boxing gloves. No. Free will.
Ok now about the 27% purses. Well.... I don't know about you.... but 27% of $10 million is still a hell of a lot of money. Is it a fair share? Of course the hell not. But what am I going to solve by boycotting a fight because fighter "X" is not getting his fair share? Is that what we should be doing? I don't know. I'm not the emotional one here.
Oh... and about the part about me wanting the fighters to die the way I want them to. I mean.... I don't want to insult you or nothing, but....... Aren't you being a little bit of a drama queen? Seriously.
Anyway, and on a serious note..... weren't you ignoring my posts before? What the fuck made you go back on that? Miss me?
;)
BRUTAL. And out of that 27% he has to pay taxes, his camp costs, his entourage, and Freddie Roach takes a %.Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless rocco
No wonder the guy is going broke.