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    Default Re: Mayweather- Pacquiao wont happen with Arum involved !

    Quote Originally Posted by ruthless rocco View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Well first off its complete utter bullshit to point out Manny's ppv numbers as a reason not to fight him. Its beyond explanation its so ridiculous. The levels of assinitity (I needed a made up word) for such a claim are off the charts.With the exception of Hatton and Oscar none of Floyds opponents have done close to 1 million ppv buys. Just another reason ppv is plastic. Risk and reward has completely vanished from the land scape. This is where Floyd does more to hurt boxing then anyone has before him regardless of how good he is. He's to big. Yes this is prize fighting but the prize used to be because of the risk or at least part of it was. Manny is still the second best fighter in Floyds comfort zone. Doesn't that mean anything anymore? What sport is this?

    Arum was with Floyd for ten years. When the Oscar fight was made Floyd wanted 20 million and Bob said no. Floyd said fk-you and bought out his contract for 750 grand and started promoting himself. He went on to make 30 million against Oscar. Now because of that, Floyd figures he was shorted in previous fights. Fair enough but we can go back as far as guys like Tex Rickard right through to King for the same types of acts committed by promoters and yet in the end save the colour barrier days, the best fought the best. Legacy won out in the end. Today those who want to pursue legacy cant get the fights because they wont sell PPV or are to dangerous Its fking pathetic. Its like a different sport. And I'm not trying to sound arrogant here but for those of you who have grown up with nothing else but this flavour era you will never understand and I kind of feel sorry for you. Its not even about boxing anymore. The sports been TMZ'd, highjacked if you will. If Floyd wanted to get back at Arum he'd demand a 70/30 split along with the overwhelming majority of all other revenue and then beat up his main tit. Get that phantom money back from Bob and belittle his main squeeze no doubt sending him into retirement in the process. Now that's payback.
    That's not the reason Floyd feels ripped off by Arum. Arum has admitted publicly to owing Floyd money and to deliberately withholding the payment of that money. He's been quite brazen about it.

    If Floyd were to make a 70/30 purse split with Pacquiao then it would only be Pacquiao getting screwed over. Arum would still make all the money and rip Manny off just like he rips all his fighters off. Floyd doesn't benefit from Manny being ripped off.

    Payback for Floyd would be to have Manny ditch Arum to make the fight. That way he and Manny get all the money. Arum gets no money and Arum loses his top fighter.
    Hmmmm well in that case then he's screwing Manny financially by not fighting him. His present state of affairs regarding cash is pretty well documented be it over generosity or foolishness. I just don't find the Arum excuse palatable anymore or things like ppv numbers. Its simply not relevant. I'd like to see these reports about Arum admitting to owing Floyd all this money. Don King probably owes a lot more to a lot more fighters. Same with the comments about Manny having to fight somebody to get in line. Its outrageous. I mean why that entire circus over testing if he never had the intent? Floyds super fans will say it was some kind of plan or ploy. There is a large portion of Floyd fans that cant or refuse to look at anything regarding Floyd objectively.

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    Default Re: Mayweather- Pacquiao wont happen with Arum involved !

    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Hmmmm well in that case then he's screwing Manny financially by not fighting him. His present state of affairs regarding cash is pretty well documented be it over generosity or foolishness. I just don't find the Arum excuse palatable anymore or things like ppv numbers. Its simply not relevant. I'd like to see these reports about Arum admitting to owing Floyd all this money. Don King probably owes a lot more to a lot more fighters. Same with the comments about Manny having to fight somebody to get in line. Its outrageous. I mean why that entire circus over testing if he never had the intent? Floyds super fans will say it was some kind of plan or ploy. There is a large portion of Floyd fans that cant or refuse to look at anything regarding Floyd objectively.
    Floyd doesn't owe Pacquioa anything so he's not screwing him over by not fighting him.
    He is however encouraging him to leave Arum and in doing so, he's trying to help him make more money. Pacquioa would make more money because he wouldn't have Arum ripping him off AND Floyd would agree to fight him so he'd make ALOT of MONEY.

    Here's the link to an article where Arum admits to owing Floyd money and not intending to pay it:
    Fight gets personal between Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Bob Arum - NY Daily News

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