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Roy Jones on Fury Fight: I Know How To Beat a Big Dude! - Boxing News
Roy says that if the money was right, he'd fight the 6'9 Fury and he could beat him.
Poor Roy. He should retire on the win he just had and not risk getting bludgeoned.
maybe we just dont understand what its like to be roy jones. i guess when you are so talented and then your age takes away your ability to utilize that talent, your brain is still stupid. too bad it doesnt get smarter.
This is like ApolloCreed VS Drago... I fear for Roy's life.. I hope this fight dont come off.
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Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita
No need to worry. It won't.
I wouldn't fear for RJJ in that fight
fury would be daft to take it anyway, it would just make him look more of a cunt no matter what happened in the fight
Jones wouldnt beat Cunningham, ever.
Like someone else has said, Jones has a win but that wont satisfy.
This is talk from Fury that has triggered talk from Jones, nothing more.
I presume ur talking about today? "Ever" suggests anytime in their careers, prime for prime Jones wins easy.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
I did mean prime for prime.Quote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeI presume ur talking about today? "Ever" suggests anytime in their careers, prime for prime Jones wins easy.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
Cunningham would be too big and skilled for Roy to even sign against.
Yeah I'm going to go ahead and call bull on that. Cunningham has 0 power!Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
Jones was a heavyweight champ. At 5'11 there's no doubt who's more skilled between the two. Given cunninghams lack of power and Roy Jones speed and skill advantage I think it's pretty safe to say Jones wins a UD.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongYeah I'm going to go ahead and call bull on that. Cunningham has 0 power!Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
Jones is entering the town pitifulville at a accelerated pace. First in was Bobby wtf Gunn, then Silva then onto talking Nate Diaz and Dana White ???
The present version of Tyson Fury would have killed any version of Roy Jones...
In his prime, Roy Jones was simply one of the most amazing physical talents there's ever been.
But look, even in his prime against a big, strong, decent light-heavyweight like David Telesco, that was proof enough of why weight-classes were invented. Sure, Jones won handily, but he wasn't hurtin' the 6'1" Telesco who made 175 for the weigh-in but was 185 lbs inside the ring.
As Roy Sr told Roy Jr way back when, he'd be risking his life if he foguht Buster Douglas or Evander Holyfield.
Niga u trippin.. 03 Roy clowns FuryQuote:
Originally Posted by bradlee180
Dont get confused with John Ruiz being a good heavyweight. Why dyou think Roy chose that fight?Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaNiga u trippin.. 03 Roy clowns FuryQuote:
Originally Posted by bradlee180
In fact, Ruiz has been the go to heavyweight for little men to get a win at heavy.
Toney beat him without having to sit on the ropes and wait for the ref to pull Ruiz off. Ruiz couldnt get close enough to Toney without getting clouted with the overhand right;D
Prime Ruiz is better than fury.. I just think roy is too fast and fleetfooted for a clumsy, uncordinated fury...Quote:
Originally Posted by rossDont get confused with John Ruiz being a good heavyweight. Why dyou think Roy chose that fight?Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaNiga u trippin.. 03 Roy clowns FuryQuote:
Originally Posted by bradlee180
In fact, Ruiz has been the go to heavyweight for little men to get a win at heavy.
Toney beat him without having to sit on the ropes and wait for the ref to pull Ruiz off. Ruiz couldnt get close enough to Toney without getting clouted with the overhand right;D
Bingo. Ruiz was garbage to watch but effective and he ran a lot of really good HW's close or beat them. Golota, 2001 Holyfield, Kirk Johnson or Rahman at that point were good fighters. Fury wouldn't have seen the final bell against any of them imo.
I saw Tyson Fury's list on Twitter and adding old RJJ is ridiculous.
The other three fights are fine. Lucas Browne would be an entertaining brawl, while Chisora 2 is a good fight. Wilder is just treading water and seems incapable of fighting another contender.
Agreed, all 3 of those are good fights that would be nice to see happen. I think Tyson Fury probably added Jones just for a laugh and to get a reaction.
We are yet to find that out. Fury is yet to be awarded a title shot, even though hes fought and won 2 title eliminators.Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaPrime Ruiz is better than fury.. I just think roy is too fast and fleetfooted for a clumsy, uncordinated fury...Quote:
Originally Posted by rossDont get confused with John Ruiz being a good heavyweight. Why dyou think Roy chose that fight?Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaNiga u trippin.. 03 Roy clowns FuryQuote:
Originally Posted by bradlee180
In fact, Ruiz has been the go to heavyweight for little men to get a win at heavy.
Toney beat him without having to sit on the ropes and wait for the ref to pull Ruiz off. Ruiz couldnt get close enough to Toney without getting clouted with the overhand right;D
At this stage in Ruiz career he had been sparked by someone who was never good enough to win a world title. He had many gift, rotten decisions. The Holyfield fights, the Golota fight. Got totally out boxed by Toney and Jones. If he couldnt hold you he was fucked.
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Originally Posted by rossWe are yet to find that out. Fury is yet to be awarded a title shot, even though hes fought and won 2 title eliminators.Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaPrime Ruiz is better than fury.. I just think roy is too fast and fleetfooted for a clumsy, uncordinated fury...Quote:
Originally Posted by rossDont get confused with John Ruiz being a good heavyweight. Why dyou think Roy chose that fight?Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaNiga u trippin.. 03 Roy clowns FuryQuote:
Originally Posted by bradlee180
In fact, Ruiz has been the go to heavyweight for little men to get a win at heavy.
Toney beat him without having to sit on the ropes and wait for the ref to pull Ruiz off. Ruiz couldnt get close enough to Toney without getting clouted with the overhand right;D
At this stage in Ruiz career he had been sparked by someone who was never good enough to win a world title. He had many gift, rotten decisions. The Holyfield fights, the Golota fight. Got totally out boxed by Toney and Jones. If he couldnt hold you he was fucked.
You must admit that Ruiz fought bravely against Haye in his last outing. He didn't try to hold or run or pull any crap. He came to fight and went out on his shield. Gave me a new respect for Ruiz.
thats why he said a prime ruiz, not a ruiz at the same point in his career as fury. a prime ruiz would have KO'd fury. not to say that fury couldnt be better, but at the moment he isnt.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossWe are yet to find that out. Fury is yet to be awarded a title shot, even though hes fought and won 2 title eliminators.Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaPrime Ruiz is better than fury.. I just think roy is too fast and fleetfooted for a clumsy, uncordinated fury...Quote:
Originally Posted by rossDont get confused with John Ruiz being a good heavyweight. Why dyou think Roy chose that fight?Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaNiga u trippin.. 03 Roy clowns FuryQuote:
Originally Posted by bradlee180
In fact, Ruiz has been the go to heavyweight for little men to get a win at heavy.
Toney beat him without having to sit on the ropes and wait for the ref to pull Ruiz off. Ruiz couldnt get close enough to Toney without getting clouted with the overhand right;D
At this stage in Ruiz career he had been sparked by someone who was never good enough to win a world title. He had many gift, rotten decisions. The Holyfield fights, the Golota fight. Got totally out boxed by Toney and Jones. If he couldnt hold you he was fucked.
although fury got hurt pretty bad against cunningham who isnt at all a puncher and is small. i guarantee that jones hit harder than cunningham so yes, i believe that jones could hurt fury and even KO him. im not saying he would or wouldnt, im just saying that he definitely could.Quote:
Originally Posted by bradlee180
Like iv said. If Ali can get that chin past the likes of Frazier, Foreman and Shavers when a 180lb Henry Cooper (when Clay himself weighed over 200lb) can drop him so hard his corner need to buy time, I think Fury who got dropped by a 6,3" ripped solid 210lb fighter with quick, sharp hands has a chamce to get his chin past the slow oafs that call themselves heavyweights.Quote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncheralthough fury got hurt pretty bad against cunningham who isnt at all a puncher and is small. i guarantee that jones hit harder than cunningham so yes, i believe that jones could hurt fury and even KO him. im not saying he would or wouldnt, im just saying that he definitely could.Quote:
Originally Posted by bradlee180
Could Jones have stopped Marco Huck?;D
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Originally Posted by rossLike iv said. If Ali can get that chin past the likes of Frazier, Foreman and Shavers when a 180lb Henry Cooper (when Clay himself weighed over 200lb) can drop him so hard his corner need to buy time, I think Fury who got dropped by a 6,3" ripped solid 210lb fighter with quick, sharp hands has a chamce to get his chin past the slow oafs that call themselves heavyweights.Quote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncheralthough fury got hurt pretty bad against cunningham who isnt at all a puncher and is small. i guarantee that jones hit harder than cunningham so yes, i believe that jones could hurt fury and even KO him. im not saying he would or wouldnt, im just saying that he definitely could.Quote:
Originally Posted by bradlee180
Could Jones have stopped Marco Huck?;D
Dude....
This is why Ross is so retarded. He's comparing a clearly weak chinned Fury (who has been hurt pretty much with every punch landed on him) to the granite chin o Ali. He is a fucking retard who is so biased to fighters he likes.
And yes Jones probably stops Huck. Particularly a Huck at the time he fought Cunningham. Huck is getting better but as a boxer his skills are so limited. I love watching him and he as been in battles but Jones was too slick and would hurt Huck with counters and combos
Before Ali fought Liston he was dropped hard by 180lb british journeyman Henry Cooper who had a less than 50% KO ratio and 195lb Sonny Banks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe
Fury has been dropped by an ripped 210lb former world champ fighter and another weighing 232lb both 6,3" not light heavyweight journeymen.
Im not comparing Fury to Ali you fucking morons! Like you said, Ali had a granite chin but he was thought to be very vulnerable as he was getting hurt and dropped and awarded gift decisions against very small heavyweights that werent even punchers.
To be fair, what has Tyson Fury done that would rank him higher than John Ruiz?Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
John Ruiz certainly was at least a GOOD heavyweight. His style was ugly, but it was largely effective. And he could punch.
To be fair, Fury has only been a pro 5 years. When Ruiz had been a pro 5 years he had 3 losses 1 by KO;DQuote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerTo be fair, what has Tyson Fury done that would rank him higher than John Ruiz?Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
John Ruiz certainly was at least a GOOD heavyweight. His style was ugly, but it was largely effective. And he could punch.
His first world title shot came after 8 years as a pro and he lost that!
So comparably Fury is miles ahead of Ruiz at this point in their careers;)
We're not talking about Ruiz at 5 years though. We're talking about the Ruiz who had lost to Jones vs the Fury of now.
The question is, what makes Fury at this point a more legit opponent than Ruiz was in 2003 when Jones beat him?
Jones is the opponent for everyone he faces now. He's a breath away from getting knocked out. Comparably, at the same points in their careers, Ruiz is rubbish compared to Fury which is the point I wanted to make.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
It wont happen. You lot are so gullible when it comes to what Fury says. I hope he reads this and laughs. Like his purse split with Haye and his retirement;D
Jones chose Ruiz because he was so beatable. Had it been Fury back then he wouldn't have wanted to go anywhere near heavyweight. It took a Ruiz to tempt him.
Also, the Ruiz that lost to Jones would lose to Fury of now;)
Fury mentioning Roy Jones as an opponent just shows he is trying to beat up on smaller none Heavyweights to try and prove his worth at Heavyweight. In his prime, Roy Jones was the best in the world but a shot 40 year old Jones who is getting sparked at Cruiserweight belongs nowhere near a ring with a Heavyweight. Hopefully no athletic commission in the world will sanction this.
I hope this fight doesn't happen , I want to see fury fight a big puncher , just want to see the clown knocked out , he is garbage.
I'm a fan of Fury, truth be told. I think a big, goofy arrogant HW is great because at least it brings much needed interest to the HW division.
I think his act is a little transparent though. In the build-up to Haye/Fury, he let a bit of doubt slip every so often (usually when Haye was sitting next to him), using words and phrases like "if I lose", "win or lose", ect, whereas Haye never even entertained the thought of losing the fight. It's always a bad sign when guys speak that way because it means they lack confidence.
I think Haye would have tore him up, and I think Wilder, Arreola and obviously the Klitschkos would whip him as well.
Yes im sick of all the talk , let see him get in the ring and beat a puncher at top level.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
There is nothing else to discuss until he actually has a fight.
Ross would have you believe that Cunningham & Johnson satisfy that criteria.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
Yes but the blinded fanboy , is also Fury's press officer.Quote:
Originally Posted by bzkfnRoss would have you believe that Cunningham & Johnson satisfy that criteria.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
So if you aren't comparing them why are you bringing him up in every argument you make? I just can't wait for Fury to fight someone good and get KTFO so you can eat crow. I know as soon as he does fight someone good it will be his last fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossBefore Ali fought Liston he was dropped hard by 180lb british journeyman Henry Cooper who had a less than 50% KO ratio and 195lb Sonny Banks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe
Fury has been dropped by an ripped 210lb former world champ fighter and another weighing 232lb both 6,3" not light heavyweight journeymen.
Im not comparing Fury to Ali you fucking morons! Like you said, Ali had a granite chin but he was thought to be very vulnerable as he was getting hurt and dropped and awarded gift decisions against very small heavyweights that werent even punchers.
Never!Quote:
In his prime, Roy Jones was the best in the world
If you're not The Man at Heavyweight, then you're NOT the Best in the World!
Jones' prime was late '94 (Toney fight) till early '98 (Virgil Hill fight).
At that time, the top Heavyweights in the world were:
Big Daddy Riddick Bowe
Big George Foreman
Michael Moorer
Iron Mike Tyson
Evander Holyfield
Lennox Lewis
Atomic Bull Oliver McCall
Tommy Morrison
Merciless Ray Mercer
Andrew Golota
David Tua
Larry Holmes
Ike Ibeabuchi
Tim Witherspoon
Donovan Razor Ruddock
Roy was a phenomenal athletic talent, maybe the greatest athletic talent there's ever been in boxing, but he would've been squashed like a peanut by any of those guys above if he fought any of them at that period.