Which round would he go against Margo?
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Which round would he go against Margo?
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Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita
That would be a killer fight, I want to say Maidana knocks him out but that all depends if he hits harder than Cotto, If he does I think Margo would have been stopped, but damn that would be a killer war while it lasted
Serio wei? Maybe you meant to type Margarito, not Maidana..Quote:
Originally Posted by OnixQuote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita
That would be a killer fight, I want to say Maidana knocks him out but that all depends if he hits harder than Cotto, If he does I think Margo would have been stopped, but damn that would be a killer war while it lasted
WHy do you feel that Maidana can beat Margarito?
I see Margarito getting beat up and the ref stops it by the 6th.
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Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaSerio wei? Maybe you meant to type Margarito, not Maidana..Quote:
Originally Posted by OnixQuote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita
That would be a killer fight, I want to say Maidana knocks him out but that all depends if he hits harder than Cotto, If he does I think Margo would have been stopped, but damn that would be a killer war while it lasted
WHy do you feel that Maidana can beat Margarito?
Lets say it was the Margarito that showed up against Cotto I, he didn't have one punch ending power he wore Cotto down and along the way he was getting beat up. If Maidana is a bigger puncher than Maidana stops Margo.
And its guey ;)
Orale guey.. lolQuote:
Originally Posted by OnixQuote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaSerio wei? Maybe you meant to type Margarito, not Maidana..Quote:
Originally Posted by OnixQuote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita
That would be a killer fight, I want to say Maidana knocks him out but that all depends if he hits harder than Cotto, If he does I think Margo would have been stopped, but damn that would be a killer war while it lasted
WHy do you feel that Maidana can beat Margarito?
Lets say it was the Margarito that showed up against Cotto I, he didn't have one punch ending power he wore Cotto down and along the way he was getting beat up. If Maidana is a bigger puncher than Maidana stops Margo.
And its guey ;)
I kinda feel like you guys are hating unless you can break it down in detail as to why u feel Maidana will win..
Everything Maidana does, Margarito can do it better and he's bigger so I dont see why he wouldnt be favored..
Maidana and Cotto are like night and day btw.. Cotto was effective against Margarito in the first fight due to his boxing ability, speed, and combination punching .. Punching power didnt have much to do with it..
Maidana dont have those traits.. He's basically a smaller version of Margarito and he would be fighting a mirror image of himself. He would get his ass beat
Maidana hits harder than Margarito, he may even hit harder than Cotto so it would basicially be a war of attrition and El Chino has shown he can get off the canvas to knock people out.Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaOrale guey.. lolQuote:
Originally Posted by OnixQuote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaSerio wei? Maybe you meant to type Margarito, not Maidana..Quote:
Originally Posted by OnixQuote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita
That would be a killer fight, I want to say Maidana knocks him out but that all depends if he hits harder than Cotto, If he does I think Margo would have been stopped, but damn that would be a killer war while it lasted
WHy do you feel that Maidana can beat Margarito?
Lets say it was the Margarito that showed up against Cotto I, he didn't have one punch ending power he wore Cotto down and along the way he was getting beat up. If Maidana is a bigger puncher than Maidana stops Margo.
And its guey ;)
I kinda feel like you guys are hating unless you can break it down in detail as to why u feel Maidana will win..
Everything Maidana does, Margarito can do it better and he's bigger so I dont see why he wouldnt be favored..
Maidana and Cotto are like night and day btw.. Cotto was effective against Margarito in the first fight due to his boxing ability, speed, and combination punching .. Punching power didnt have much to do with it..
Maidana dont have those traits.. He's basically a smaller version of Margarito and he would be fighting a mirror image of himself. He would get his ass beat
Margarito being bigger doesn't do much for him because he smothered his work a lot of the time and didn't use his height.
If it was the Margarito that showed up in Cotto II, it would have looked worse for MArgarito as he didn't have as much on his punches that night.
Would depend on which gloves he was using. Margarito that is.Quote:
Originally Posted by dazednconfused
Would have been a bad fight for Maidana imo, not so much on style alone, but Margo is quite a bit bigger than he is, or anyone Maidana has fought. I don't think Chino could have hurt him with any one punch whether he hits harder than Cotto did or not(I highly doubt it). Late stoppage for Margarito in a brutal fight would be my pointless guess.
margarito was as good as soto karrass. they have the same style. plodders that are super slow but have a good punch and good chin. margo doesnt know how to use angles. and just like when maidana fought soto karrass, i think that margo has his moments but maidanas speed and power will get to him eventually. margo was and always has been highly overrated.
So Margarito is being put on that Soto Karass status now? lolQuote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncher
I know Maidana is the flavor of the month and all but this is getting out of hand..
Yeah that's a bit much. I never rooted for Margarito even before the wraps and don't like his style in general, but he was capable of giving anyone a hell of a fight for a few years. The guy was a huge welterweight with a massive engine who could walk through bombs, Karass is a good journeyman.
That depends. Are we talking Margarito with or without Plaster of Paris in his gloves?
As far as I'm concerned, that cheating cunt's whole career is in question.
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Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita
Really depends on how much plaster of Paris Margo can get in his gloves.
would be a cracking fight, id lean towards marg on points, perhaps even late stoppage
I look at Soto Karass as a poor mans version of Margarito. Antonio had a far better chin, more strength, athleticism and punching power as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncher
Maidana did great in beating Broner and he is a hell of a fighter. However, lets not get carried away and pretend he's a true welterweight who could have beaten Margarito, Cotto, Mosley of a few years ago.
Would've been a great fight. I'd back Margarito to stop him. As has been said - he's naturally bigger and IMO tougher and he's fought much stronger fighters than Maidana.
I feel the same way.Quote:
Originally Posted by bzkfn
im not saying that maidana is great by any means, im saying that margarito isnt great by any means either. who has margo beaten in his entire career that was any good? cotto and thats it. thats why it was such a big upset because cotto was seen as way better and margo had to use plaster to win. other than cotto, his best win was probably clottey and he only won that fight because clottey hurt his hand early in the fight because clottey was easily beating him before that. he has lost anytime that he has stepped up.
Joshua Clottey and an undefeated Kermit Cintron spring to mind. Clottey lost just like he did against Cotto because he couldn't dig as deep in the later rounds as Margarito n Cotto could.Quote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncher
Honest question.. How long have you been into boxing?Quote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncher
Nobody who beat Margarito wouldn't have chopped down Maidana as well imo, if you want to spin it that way. The Paul Williams fight was another good showing for both, those guys were both huge welterweights who would have just dwarfed Marcos.
I remember thinking Clottey definitely did hurt his hand against Margo, he was hitting him with some peaches early and stopped throwing pretty abruptly. Of course he might have gone on to pull his whole earmuffs routine and lost anyways, I can't remember the rounds very well. Funny to think that Margarito beat Martinez all those years ago as well, I wonder if Sergio was any good at that point.
Fuckin tired of these dudes talking about plaster. Some ignorant shit..
Simply put, Cotto couldnt take as much as he dished out which was why he lost.. he shot his load early and didnt have the punch resistance and the stamina to maintain his workrate late in the fight. That's why he submitted on his knees..
It was Margarito's granite chin, stamina, and relentlessness that drove him to victory.. Punching power didnt have shit to do with it..
When you are fatigued as Cotto was, every punch fuckin hurts... you dont have to have devastating punching power to hurt a fatigued opponent..
Maidana beating a prime Margarito is one of the silliest shit ive heard in a while..
long enough that i have seen a lot of margo fights and long enough that ive known that he has been overrated for a very long time.Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaHonest question.. How long have you been into boxing?Quote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncher
i will admit that margos style was a bad match up for cotto because we had seen him get hurt again and again in previous fights. its not like it was some new revelation that cotto could be hurt. but i cant assume that margo wasnt cheating in that fight even if he wasnt. anyways, why would you make this thread? were you hoping for people to say that maidana would win so that you could call us stupid?Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita
i agree. thats why i said that maidana isnt great but neither is margo. both fighters are just determined and dont stop unless they have to. both have shown many vulnerabilities in the ring but margo has shown that he can overcome somebody trying to overpower him with his speed while margo has shown that he cant overcome somebody with speed. and whether or not maidana uses his speed effectively, i think that his speed would be the deciding factor in the fight?Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
cintron wasnt good. it happens all the time. an up and coming fighter that is highly publicized gets more credit than they deserve. the cintron win was an alright win. and for the record, i thought that clottey beat cotto but that fight was not at all like the margo fight. clottey clearly hurt his hand.Quote:
Originally Posted by HulkJoshua Clottey and an undefeated Kermit Cintron spring to mind. Clottey lost just like he did against Cotto because he couldn't dig as deep in the later rounds as Margarito n Cotto could.Quote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncher
Amen.Quote:
Originally Posted by bzkfn
I see a 12 round war... all the way... Maidana via decision. A close decision.