He's made it loud and clear that he's not going to fight anyone else except for Maidana..
That's exactly what I want to hear from a fighter. It may not be the smartest move but I like his mentality..
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He's made it loud and clear that he's not going to fight anyone else except for Maidana..
That's exactly what I want to hear from a fighter. It may not be the smartest move but I like his mentality..
No doubt, as long as Maidana isn't fighting Floyd next I'm sure this can be made pretty easily, we'll see. It's for sure ballsy of Broner to pursue the fight, shit I wouldn't want to see Maidana ever again if I were him.
Have I missed something here? Broner Chooses rematch with Maidana? Didn't Maidana win the fight (and pretty convincingly too!!!) I reckon it will be Maidana making the choices. Who does Broner think he is? Everybody is telling him to go down a weight and he's not having it. Is it because he's a "mini JCC Jr. ?" by that I mean that he says he's comfortable at this weight just so he doesn't have to do a bit of hard work to fight at the next weight down. If he was honest with himself, he's probably just a lazy, arrogant prick!
the reality is tho dude is that Broner is still probably a bigger draw in amarica, a bigger name, probly because he is an arrogant prick but stillQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
Trooos.. Let's not make Maidana out to be some shotcallin megastar just cuz he beat Broner.. IT's not like he's going to get a shot at Floyd next anyways. Who else besides Broner can give him the kind of spotlight and payday..
Broner is still in the position to call the shots. Not Maidana..
"Dear David Price, how do I salvage my career and return to glory? Your friend AB"
Glad to hear, and I think this is a very winnable fight for Broner if he does the right things.
This fight will make or break his career. If you destroys maidana then his credibility will skyrocket, if he even loses by one point to maidana then his career is done and he will drop into journeyman status.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
Broner has the tools to win. does he have the heart and mentality to win?
Another loss isnt going to turn him into a journeyman. He's too young for that.. and as far as him having heart, he's shown plenty of it. But does he have the smarts to make adjusments is the real question imo.Quote:
Originally Posted by chris6878This fight will make or break his career. If you destroys maidana then his credibility will skyrocket, if he even loses by one point to maidana then his career is done and he will drop into journeyman status.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
Broner has the tools to win. does he have the heart and mentality to win?
The loss is a bit like Vernon Forrests 2 losses to Mayorga.
I think Maidana will beat him again.
he has the heart as shown from the first maidana fightQuote:
Originally Posted by chris6878This fight will make or break his career. If you destroys maidana then his credibility will skyrocket, if he even loses by one point to maidana then his career is done and he will drop into journeyman status.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
Broner has the tools to win. does he have the heart and mentality to win?
Im not going say robbery but mayorga didnt deserve the nod in the rematch..Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
I was making the point that sometimes the less skilled brawler , beats the much better boxer with power and work rate.Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaIm not going say robbery but mayorga didnt deserve the nod in the rematch..Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
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Agreed but I also think it smart.
I'd like to see him work on his craft first but I appreciate his mentality. He's definitely a fighter.
I didn't pick first fight but I'll take Broner in the rematch. He has more ways to adjust.
I think Broner can win the fight if he forgets about standing in front of Maidana while trying to make him miss. Stupid, stupid way to fight!Quote:
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Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita
Agreed but I also think it smart.
There was and still is some bad blood between the two camps, I think the fight will happen but I hope Broner is forced to ask politely for it.
Haven't heard a lot from Broner lately (probably licking his wounds) anyway I'm thinking that keeping his mouth shut is almost as bad as getting his ass kicked. LOL
I'd like to see Broner win plus show some respect for Maidana, boxing and the fans. Probably not possible but I can hope.
Maidana beats him again but more convincingly.
Would not bet against that happening.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Hubris is a bad drug. Even Hannibal would agree to that. Falsely attained hubris ala Broners entire attitude is much worse. He either woke up or he didn't. If he cant beat Maidana with his natural ability and style then he needs a different line of work.Quote:
Originally Posted by beenKOedI think Broner can win the fight if he forgets about standing in front of Maidana while trying to make him miss. Stupid, stupid way to fight!Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitQuote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita
Agreed but I also think it smart.
There was and still is some bad blood between the two camps, I think the fight will happen but I hope Broner is forced to ask politely for it.
Haven't heard a lot from Broner lately (probably licking his wounds) anyway I'm thinking that keeping his mouth shut is almost as bad as getting his ass kicked. LOL
I'd like to see Broner win plus show some respect for Maidana, boxing and the fans. Probably not possible but I can hope.
Broner spent his post fight interviewstrying to get nightclub owners to pay him to make appearances in their clubs. He's not going to take boxing anymore seriously than he was before he lost to Maidana. I think Maidanan beats him again but if Broner is less casual and avoids any knockdowns he stands to get a gift decision in a fight he probably only wins five rounds in max.
I disagree. There are loads of fights out there for Maidana . He's got a world title and plenty of guys would fancy taking that off him and subsequently land themselves a shot at Mayweather. Even guys like Garcia and Matthyse who would see it as a good way to move up and be relevant. The thing is that Maidana probably wouldn't turn anyone down either. I'm not saying he's a great fighter, he probably will lose, but he's gonna make some money. He don't need Broner , and now Broner has lost , he's a little bit harder to market.Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita
He is second in line for a Mayweather fight right now, therefore, even if he doesn't get Mayweather right away, he may get him at the end of the year. In addition, he already beat Broner so why take the risk in fighting him again? On the same note, as much as I want to see a rematch between Garcia and Matthysse, I completely understand why Garcia wouldn't face him again. Would a Paulie fight pay him as much as another Broner fight, or close, with less risk? How about a Porter fight? etc. He's not in the driver's seat, but he's got options.
I think this is posturing. Broner will heed Floyd's advice and drop down to 140.
I don't think it will happen next and frankly I can't see the network going out of their way to push for it immediatly. Broner is close to burning too many bridges. Even if he some how blasted Maidana in 1 round it would say far more to go in and finally display the ability to adjust and stay consistent, be that 'might be, may be, could be' ring technician and offensive savy boxer over the distance that so many thought he'd be. He needs to show that for once, a new mature approach or he'll be back on some shit rap tour driving the bus.
I hate to even try to remotely critique someone on the level of Bronner but everytime I watch him I feel like he doesnt fight to his true style.
What I mean is he has power and throws sharp combos when he does throw them. Instead of using these tools he tries to work off of his defense and and counter punch with one or two punches like PBF for example. Three punches is alot for Bronner.
Even if he had nice tight defense in the philly he needs to open up more. If I was his coach, I would tell him to work off his jab and throw 4-5 punch combos.
Then again, I dont see him in the gym everyday so maybe they see things I dont.
If it happens and Bronner wins we are looking at a nice trilogy.
I dont see broner quite in the power position everyone else sees him in. Its nice to call out someone in a rematch and a lot of people will base this on one fight money possibilities. I want to see if he actually wants to go through with this and is willing to take the short stack for the opportunity to avenge the loss. Or is he just talking and then unwilling to negotiate because he still feels hes the draw. He prices himself out by demanding the lions share then claims maidana doesnt want to fight and claims redemption that way. Might be a bucket of cold water on the people that want to see this happen, but its a definite possibility and has happened before in similar instances.
Anyone remember RJJ's dq loss to Griffith. 2 minutes of listening to Griffith talk afterwards was enough to have Roy telling his lawyer/management to get him the rematch no matter what it costs... and then destroying griffith.
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Originally Posted by J_Undisputed
Knowing Bronners extremely egotistical personality, the loss likely burns him bad.
Im thinking he wants more of Maidana asap even if its a bad decision.
Im not saying it is a bad decsion, im just saying he likely wants Maidana at all cost.
2 of the 4 highest rated fights last year had Broner as the A side. Don't be confused, he is most certainly in the power position. He can offer more money than anyone short of Floyd for Maidana. But this definitely could be a play. Broner can't continue his act if he runs away to a different weight class. But if Maidana "refused" the fight Broner is free to do whatever. And Maidana still has many options. This could just be a work. We'll know soon enough
I say go for it and put it on the Mayweather ppv in May and if Maidana beats him again it will pave the way for Mayweather vs Maidana in September.
Do people actually want to see a one sided beatdown in Floyd-maidana? Such a weak fight..
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Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaIm not going say robbery but mayorga didnt deserve the nod in the rematch..Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
Bullshit. Vernon ran and fought scared the whole second fight, Mayorga made the fight and deserved the victory.
Seeking an immediate rematch after a definitive loss rarely works out for boxers, Mosley tried it against Forrest then against Winky, lost those 4. Vernon lost twice to Mayorga. As Lyle mentioned, David Price tried it against Tony Thompson.
Maidana makess ton of money in the rematch and is the best option for him as he wont be fighting mayweather.
Great to see broner wanting to avenge his loss and he will become a far better fighter after this.
He needs to get busy early and work on that defense big time.
He knows 147 is where its all at and thats the divison he wants to stay in.
It is but who else out there can do numbers besides Pac, Cotto and even Bradley? The media will sell Maidana after he beats lil brother again hoping the masses buy it.Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita
Yea you've missed something. Broner brings the money. That's all that mattersQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
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The sad fact is.... whenever someone is annointed as "The Next (fill in the blank)"..... it takes more than an embarrassing beatdown to take him off that "money-maker" perch. Such is the sport of boxing. The press becomes infatuated with the fighter.... helps build the deserved or undeserved hype (doesn't matter, really)..... and eventually takes said fighter to PPV status.
In an ideal world, it should be Maidana deciding whether or not he gives Broner a rematch. But as you've seen by the responses here, not even boxing fans agree with that.
David Haye said the same crap and we believed him. The loudest mouths are the first to shift plans and look for excuses to bow out of fights. This fight willnot happen. And if it does, the same outcome will take place----unless Broner makes it an absolute snooze fest by curling up into an even more Mayweather-type shell and somehow avoiding those shots, then somehow able to counter with any power---which he doesnt seem to have at 147.Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita
Fights on april 19 or 26 in LA on showtime!Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbustDavid Haye said the same crap and we believed him. The loudest mouths are the first to shift plans and look for excuses to bow out of fights. This fight willnot happen. And if it does, the same outcome will take place----unless Broner makes it an absolute snooze fest by curling up into an even more Mayweather-type shell and somehow avoiding those shots, then somehow able to counter with any power---which he doesnt seem to have at 147.Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita
Schaefer: Broner-Maidana Rematch on 4/19 or 4/26 - Boxing News
AB=Another Beating
If isnt that Broner is calling the shots for this fight....the contract dictated a rematch clause that he ia exercising
I also think that Floyd wanted him to exercise it so the Maidana talk would stop and pave the way to fight glass jaw kahn.
Also, Broner may have had a rematch clause in the contract- as he was the champ. So, he may have decided to exercise that clause. It did go the distance...