Boxer you liked but didn't made it!

Bo hogberg was one of the boxer which i really like, which i don't think got the real shot at boxing.

Bo Hogberg learned to box while growing up in a working-class neighborhood in Gothenburg, Sweden. Winning his first national amateur championship at the age of eighteen, while compiling an amateur record of 60-12 (45 KO's). During his professional career, Hogberg, would hold the European Light Middleweight Title, and compile a career record 36-6-1 (24 KOs). Hogberg was a controversial figure outside of the ring, known for his flamboyant lifestyle, which included fast cars, liquor, and women. His career would end, temporarilly, in 1967, after a prison sentence. He would return in 1970, and lose all three of his comeback fights. His unsavory reputation, may have played apart in politicians decision to ban professional boxing in Sweden in 1970. Hogberg died of cancer, after having suffered a stroke, a few years before.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yZ0yXK23-g

Another one i liked was Ingemar Johansson, He had a few good fights with Floyd Patterson, Eddie Machen, Joe Erskine, Joe Bygraves, Dick Richardson and Henry cooper.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uqP5d4RTG8

This is from when boxing was a sport

Ji hoon Kim- Ji is a family friend so I got to know this dude in the mid 2000s and became a part of his team.. Ji is one of the downest guys I know on the streets .. he used to be the top streetfighter in high school but deep inside, I feared that he would take a lot of beating in the pros.. he just didnt have the proper foundation as a boxer and his trainer sucked. U know what though, for a time being, he was a straight up wrecking machine and dude made me proud.. if I were to get into a rumble on the streets against any number of foes, I just need Ji by my side and we would fuck up any group.. no doubt about that.

Marvin Quintero- to those of u who dont know, Quintero is a LW from Tijuana and one of the most, offensively skilled fighters out there.. when he was coming up as a prospect, he showed glimpse of a young marco antonio barrera and I thought he woukd go places.. but just like some fighters, bad luck never seems to escape him... sort of like Eric Hunter... he has all the physical tools and due is exciting as fuck but for some odd reason, he loses to oppoe0nents he shouldnt be losing to... or he might lead on the cards then all of a sudden, he suffers a freak accident.. he has very bad luck but just take a look at his fights from few years ago and youll see what he's about..

JI hoon and quintero are still young though and they still have a chance...

Kendall Holt- kendall is a former champion whose been there and done that so he probably doesnt belong in this discussion but with his talents, he could have accomplished a lot more.. ive always liked holt..

Saigon Skipper Kelp.

Welterweight contender in the early to mid-90s.
Great tv fighter, exciting KO puncher.
He's a coach nowadays. Vietnamese.

Hightlight reel:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pl7e3by5fvY


Saigon Skipper Kelp vs Adrian Stone was one helluva Great fight.

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Ji hoon Kim- Ji is a family friend so I got to know this dude in the mid 2000s and became a part of his team.. Ji is one of the downest guys I know on the streets .. he used to be the top streetfighter in high school but deep inside, I feared that he would take a lot of beating in the pros.. he just didnt have the proper foundation as a boxer and his trainer sucked. U know what though, for a time being, he was a straight up wrecking machine and dude made me proud.. if I were to get into a rumble on the streets against any number of foes, I just need Ji by my side and we would fuck up any group.. no doubt about that.

Marvin Quintero- to those of u who dont know, Quintero is a LW from Tijuana and one of the most, offensively skilled fighters out there.. when he was coming up as a prospect, he showed glimpse of a young marco antonio barrera and I thought he woukd go places.. but just like some fighters, bad luck never seems to escape him... sort of like Eric Hunter... he has all the physical tools and due is exciting as fuck but for some odd reason, he loses to oppoe0nents he shouldnt be losing to... or he might lead on the cards then all of a sudden, he suffers a freak accident.. he has very bad luck but just take a look at his fights from few years ago and youll see what he's about..

JI hoon and quintero are still young though and they still have a chance...

Kendall Holt- kendall is a former champion whose been there and done that so he probably doesnt belong in this discussion but with his talents, he could have accomplished a lot more.. ive always liked holt..

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If only he knew defense.

Im going to excuse your spelling because you are Swedish.


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Sebastian Lujan - he is still active and only 34. He is one of my all time favourites to watch.

He came close a few times but never managed the world title.

Exciting fighter to watch, never takes a backwards step and throws a lot of punches. He has a solid defence also, so much head movement it's unreal.


Has stopped prospects in the past and really deserves to be a bit more known.

Unfortunately he'll likely always be remembered for his world title fight with Antonio Margarito when about a quarter of his ear was tore from his head.

Which is ashame for a fighter deserving of so much more.

I was a fan of the following -

Harold "The Shadow " Knight.- lost to Rocky Lockridge.
Engels Pedroza.- ko king who wasn't quite world class.
Tony "SIBBO" Sibson.- lost to Marvin Hagler and Frank Tate.

For me, it's Eric Crumble.
He tore his way to 31 fights, 31 KOs, all in first 2 rounds.
Unfortunately though he lost them all.

Eric Crumble - Boxer

Vernon Paris. I was really high on him since he debuted in 2006. He was only 19 or 20 but had skills well beyond his age. He was long and could box at range, but he was also equally effective on the inside and could counter off a slick shoulder roll James Toney style. He also had a great backstory that involved him surviving an assassination attempt where he was shot and rolled up into a carpet to be disposed of, but woke up and managed to escape while his would-be assassins were checking to see if the coast was clear.

Unfortunately he never seemed to develop and had a lot of problems outside the ring, and his career just kinda drifted off into limbo. He got a big opportunity finally vs Zab and came up short.

I really thought he was gonna be a champ.

I had a boxer named Bruno when I was 12. He got hit by a garbage truck. I liked him a lot. He didn't make it.


Sorry, misunderstood the thread. I have been drinking.

Funnily enough, Courtney Burton (until I saw his fight against Augustus).

Ian Napa. Very skilled fighter but he couldn't punch for shit. He had 1 career stoppage and that was because Haskins dislocated his shoulder and had to retire on his stool. Despite his lack of power, he had great defense and managed to win a British & European title. Didn't get the credit he deserved IMO.

I often get away with my spelling! I should probably read what i write twice. and do a few english writing classes.

I remember a few years ago probably 5-6 years ago i saw this Argentina guy on television, he was quite young but he was incredible fast but i cannot remember his name! Do anybody know who i thinking off?
Pretty small guy

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Saigon Skipper Kelp.

Welterweight contender in the early to mid-90s.
Great tv fighter, exciting KO puncher.
He's a coach nowadays. Vietnamese.

Hightlight reel:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pl7e3by5fvY
Saigon Skipper Kelp vs Adrian Stone was one helluva Great fight.

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Good call. That's who I was gonna say :cool:

Herol Graham and Oba Carr also Yori Boy Campus. they all had different styles and thought they were special and world class.

Cecilio Espino was one of the first guys I saw pushed out of the La Forum and loved his style. But once he was beat by a 50-50 guy and Camputatro broke a record landing shots on him in a ESPN war, things were clear ;D

Charles Brewer. Well he did 'make' it I guess but THIS dude was fun tv. The literal live by the sword or die by the sword

Urbano Antillon....just *poof* ???

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Cecilio Espino was one of the first guys I saw pushed out of the La Forum and loved his style. But once he was beat by a 50-50 guy and Camputatro broke a record landing shots on him in a ESPN war, things were clear ;D

Charles Brewer. Well he did 'make' it I guess but THIS dude was fun tv. The literal live by the sword or die by the sword

Urbano Antillon....just *poof* ???

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Brewer was the man. Loved that guy, just the epitome of a warrior. Great puncher and heart.


I'll add Randall Bailey to this list. Yes, he became 2 time world champ, but he was supposed to be the next Tommy Hearns at one point early in his career.


Still love that Mike Jones KO. He's delivered so many great KO's over the years.

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Cecilio Espino was one of the first guys I saw pushed out of the La Forum and loved his style. But once he was beat by a 50-50 guy and Camputatro broke a record landing shots on him in a ESPN war, things were clear ;D

Charles Brewer. Well he did 'make' it I guess but THIS dude was fun tv. The literal live by the sword or die by the sword

Urbano Antillon....just *poof* ???

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Randy I remember the fight with Espino it was Abnar Barajas wasn't it who shocked him on points ?

Aaron Williams was a cruiserweight prospect from Cleveland who I thought ridiculously high of. He had everything and for a big guy he was such a fluid boxer with not a lot of bad habits. He got buzzed by a hard hitting Colombian on ESPN and never recovered. He fought in an eliminator against Yoan Pablo and I thought he earned a draw but got 3 ridiculous scorecards. Then he disappeared. I don't know, rarely am I that wrong about someone. I mean dead wrong, but that is why you can't judge a guy's prospects on what he does in the ring. There are too many other factors. I still think he had the skills to even bulk up and be a very good heavyweight.

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I often get away with my spelling! I should probably read what i write twice. and do a few english writing classes.

I remember a few years ago probably 5-6 years ago i saw this Argentina guy on television, he was quite young but he was incredible fast but i cannot remember his name! Do anybody know who i thinking off?
Pretty small guy

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:-\ Bit earlier than you said but Julio Pablo Chacon,small but solidish feather weight, was still feisty around 2005, but was on the end of his career had his best at featherweight retired at super feather.

Led me to thinking about this tough Argentinian bloke Juan Roldan,game as, hit like a train and was just smack in the middle of the toughest division of all time.You gotta like him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Spu483A6HM

Tunde the doctor Foster was an exciting fighter from NY , he didn't win a world title but was good fun to watch.

Finished 22 wins (16kos) 3 losses all by ko.

Johnny Duplessis ended his unbeaten run , but he did ko good fighters like Johnny De La Rosa.

Francisco Panchito Bojado.

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Cecilio Espino was one of the first guys I saw pushed out of the La Forum and loved his style. But once he was beat by a 50-50 guy and Camputatro broke a record landing shots on him in a ESPN war, things were clear ;D

Charles Brewer. Well he did 'make' it I guess but THIS dude was fun tv. The literal live by the sword or die by the sword

Urbano Antillon....just *poof* ???

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Randy I remember the fight with Espino it was Abnar Barajas wasn't it who shocked him on points ?

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Yeh bud that's the one. Another in deceptive stats as they introduced him as 16-6?! Close one with Espino sending his mouth piece flying a couple time and bloodying his nose in late rally but not enough.

Good I can finally wave the flag. Well kinda lol.

The Cabbage Town Kid Sean O"Sullivan. Thanks Simon Brown YOU DICK;D
Willie Dewitt. If I wasn't broke at the time, I may have put a contract out on Mr. Copper.
Kirk Johnson. The talented lazy F$%^.
Davey Hilton. He could have been so much more along with one or two other brothers. It was pretty well known that he came from a tough upbringing with a fk'd up family but I had no idea he in particular was that fk'd up.

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Good I can finally wave the flag. Well kinda lol.

The Cabbage Town Kid Sean O"Sullivan. Thanks Simon Brown YOU DICK;D
Willie Dewitt. If I wasn't broke at the time, I may have put a contract out on Mr. Copper.
Kirk Johnson. The talented lazy F$%^.
Davey Hilton. He could have been so much more along with one or two other brothers. It was pretty well known that he came from a tough upbringing with a fk'd up family but I had no idea he in particular was that fk'd up.

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First interest in following boxing was watching Sean O'Sullivan and Willie Dewitt in the 84 Olympics. I watched with my grandfather and had my first beer. I was 13 and just joined boxing a year before. Haven't heard those names in years.

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Francisco Panchito Bojado.

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I thought Bojado would be a champ. Solid skills but ran into mediocre fighters who IMO fought their best fight against Francisco.

HW contender Chazz Witherspoon. His workrate increased as the Fight progressed. Just didn't have enough power or solid chin.

HW contender Malcolm The Show stopper Tann real likeable personality. Good boxer, decent power. But just like Chazz...he, too ran into ca then determined Chris Arreola.

James Kirkland. What's there to not like about the Mandingo warrior? Skills or not...if he had stayed with wolf...:-\

Carlos Quintana. Solid skills boxer puncher..great footwork. Even though he won the title from Paul Williams, he would never have a better performance. He had tissue paper skin. He just couldn't handle punishment, bruises easy, cut easy, tires easy.

Ian Nappa. Reminded me of a young Floyd. Talent galore.

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Cecilio Espino was one of the first guys I saw pushed out of the La Forum and loved his style. But once he was beat by a 50-50 guy and Camputatro broke a record landing shots on him in a ESPN war, things were clear ;D

Charles Brewer. Well he did 'make' it I guess but THIS dude was fun tv. The literal live by the sword or die by the sword

Urbano Antillon....just *poof* ???

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How did I miss this first time? Loved Espino. Remember Ysias Zamudio? Rudy Zavala? I thought Johnny Chavez from Azusa was pretty good until he lost his vision.
@SlimTrae...I know guys that used to go to Bojado's gym. They say he is the greatest gym fighter of all time. If you go to his gym he will kick your ass, heavyweight to flyweight.

How about another puncher, Teddy Reid.

He had the power...but his form wasn't so good or his chin. Exciting though.

David Price. His chin looks horridly suspect now but a fee years back he was the next big thing.

Sebastian Lujan is probably my favorite fighter to watch as I love his style and althought he did box for world honours and at a high level, I feel he missed out on a world title that he could have won.

I figured more on there would be saying Francisco Panchito Bojado, he was supposed to be the next Fernando Vargas, he was all action, good chin, good power, just well put together. He and Hatton and Cotto and Abdullaev were all on a collision course at 140! It's a shame that never panned out, none of them fought each other outside of Cotto kicking Abdullaev's ass which really proved to me Cotto was the goods.

Joe Mesi, he was a guy I was never a fan of, but I always loved watching his fights it's just a shame he had that brain bleed after the Jirov fight.

Dominick Guinn, holy shit the dude had EVERYTHING going for him GREAT chin, solid handspeed, good pop, but that fight vs Michael Grant early on showed me that he didn't have the killer instinct to be a heavyweight champion. For some reason the guy stopped letting his hands go.

George 'Monk' Foreman, he was being brought along at a Deontay Wilder kind of pace when he was still fighting, not sure what happened but it's a shame he didn't get into boxing sooner.

Malcom Tann, good call SlimTrae, he had big size, he was in good shape (at first) but he never made the adjustments and upgraded himself to deal with better skilled boxers.

No relation but I thought Rico Tann had a lot of potential but I'm flag waving again. He lost against someone he should have beat, lost his 0 and his mojo. Retired with a 12/2/2 record and just 2 and a half years in the sport.

Troy Ross is another that had huge potential but he just had to many outside interests.

I will say after the AMAZING performance vs Daniel Jacobs Dmitry Pirog really fell off the map, he won A title but his injuries had him retire early and to think we could have had a GGG vs Pirog.....almost too good to be true

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I will say after the AMAZING performance vs Daniel Jacobs Dmitry Pirog really fell off the map, he won A title but his injuries had him retire early and to think we could have had a GGG vs Pirog.....almost too good to be true

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Yeah, Pirog's name just..ceased to be. So now I know; injury prone.

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I will say after the AMAZING performance vs Daniel Jacobs Dmitry Pirog really fell off the map, he won A title but his injuries had him retire early and to think we could have had a GGG vs Pirog.....almost too good to be true

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Yeah, Pirog's name just..ceased to be. So now I know; injury prone.

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Yeah he apparently fucked his back up.....not difficult to imagine, power punchers can have that happen. It happened to Rocky Marciano later in his career.

A dozen or so years ago, I was on this forum calling Muhammad Abdullaev the next Duran...

Had a soft spot for Richard Evatt; and thought the Tiger may turn out to be the best of the new crop of British Feathers who came through in the mid 90s.

2 Manchester fighters I liked as a teenager , Tony the Tiger Ekubia and pat black flash Barrett I had high hopes for both but they never went on to win world honours .
Tony actually lives 100 yards from me and we chat often, his fights with Andy holligan where top draw.

David Reid. Entertaining fighter, but took WAY took many punches to the head and was swollen up in damn near every fight in his young career. There was no way he was going to last long at that rate and style.

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2 Manchester fighters I liked as a teenager , Tony the Tiger Ekubia and pat black flash Barrett I had high hopes for both but they never went on to win world honours .
Tony actually lives 100 yards from me and we chat often, his fights with Andy holligan where top draw.

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Please don't tell me you're from the North West Al. With your penchant for good food and fine wines, and your fine use of the Queen's English in my imagination, I had you down as from Kensington or Mayfair.;)
Anyway for me, it was Dave "boy" Green , Errol Christie and Herrol Graham. Depends what is classed as "Making it". I feel Graham made it , but he didn't become World champ.

John Duddy- no defense
Ike Ibeabuchi- promising career cut short
Edwin Valero- same thing
Jesus Soto Karass- brawler fun fights to watch
Gerald McClellan-Was on his way but a dirty fighting Benn stopped em
Kid Akeem- got in a war with Quiroga and it was too much

I think John Duddy did all he was going to do. He was a good solid fighter kind of a "tweener" though not quite small enough to stay at 154 and dominate but not really big enough to really hang with the elites at 160 and damn sure too small for 168.

He was a very tough rugged fighter, I enjoyed his style. And to only lose 2 times by decisions no less.....that's impressive for him IMO.


I would say he did more with his talent than Andy Lee has done with his so far.