Who do you think won? Mayweather or Maidana? (spoilers....watch fight first)

I watched the fight and thought Maidana started the fight incredibly well. It was like Mosley in round two, but from the off and sustained. It tapered off somewhat, but Maidana was still outworking Mayweather by the half way mark. I gave Mayweather only round 5 of the 1st 6. It started to turn around noticeably in the mid second half and Mayweathers shots were clearly flashier and he was dictating the pace more. That was clearly Mayweathers zone. I think I gave Maidana another mid round, but cannot recall which and then my stream chopped out somewhat in the 10th. I thought Maidana did enough to outhustle the final 2 rounds. Overall, my impressions were not absolute, but I felt Maidana did enough to win based on dominating the first half of the fight. I don't see how you can be 5-1 down and lose the final 2 and win the fight. I'm sure I gave him another round too.

I think Maidana won the fight and was surprised that Mayweathers legs looked so off, but I guess he is quite old and every challenger should want it as much as Maidana did. I am currently downloading and will watch it more closely and give a card, but first appraisals said Maidana.

Thoughts? And of course make sure you vote as I am into numbers.

Floyd close but clear

Maidana. He out worked Mayweather, cornered him and didn't take any shit.

I had Maidana 115-113 - 5 of the early 6 as well.

Compubox showed how close a fight it was - i dont have a problem if floyd won if by SD etc and close score - within a margin of appreciation for error - but 117-113 and 116-112 NO WAY!

Maidana 115-113 for me!

The 2 cards were ludicrous, I could see that maybe you score rounds for Mayweather based on snappier punching in some rounds, but Maidana landed almost the same number of shots overall and yet won only a few rounds according to one judge? I think the rounds Mayweather won were quite clear, but I think the same for Maidana in the first half. Even Showtime were off with it even at half way. I just don't see how they had that. It was almost as though they kept it close at the end as an apology for the aberration. Fair enough on the draw, but I think Showtime showed their true colours with their cash cow. I don't think 5 out of 6 votes from the fans will go Mayweather's way.

Mayweather won 7-5 and if they fight again it should sell good numbers even though maidana can't beat floyd. I don't know if floyd just had a off night or age is starting to catch up with him but maidana can't and won't ever beat an old floyd

i had it 9-3 Floyd. Only gave Maidana round 1.5 and 8. Dont like giving rounds for work rate when he landed nothing clean. I though 114-114 was a joke. Cant see how u can give Chino 6 rounds.

I think people are dead set on seeing Floyd lose that it clouds their judgment. I give the early rounds to Maidana but once Floyd stood his ground it was all Money. The 117-111 is more then fair. No need for a rematch. Khan vs Money should be interesting while it last and the possibilities for Maidana are off the chart if he continues to look like he did last night.

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I had it even until the eighth, though I may have been a little generous to Maidana. After that I couldn't make an argument for him: he had 30-40 seconds of sustained pressure per round which, had he maintained it, would have given him the nod for me, even though his work was not as clean as Floyd's, it was awkwardly effective, and he did a very good job of closing the distance and making it ugly. I was also a little surprised at how well he used his jab at times, but unfortunately he faded late, partially due to the exertion of the early rounds and partially due to some cute body shots from Floyd in the mid to late rounds. Decent fight though.

At first I thought this was a joke thread, of course Mayweather won the fight.

But then when I noticed the Pac option I realised it was a smart thread.

Pacquiao is definitely the winner of that fight. More than ever now it underscores that Pac vs Floyd is the fight that HAS to happen!

Based on that performance Pac is back in the running with as good a chance as any of being able to get the goods, and Mayweather would know it too.

Expect more running and hiding to come fellas :yep!!! ;D

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Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe

i had it 9-3 Floyd. Only gave Maidana round 1.5 and 8. Dont like giving rounds for work rate when he landed nothing clean. I though 114-114 was a joke. Cant see how u can give Chino 6 rounds.

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Originally Posted by Max Power

At first I thought this was a joke thread, of course Mayweather won the fight.

But then when I noticed the Pac option I realised it was a smart thread.

Pacquiao is definitely the winner of that fight. More than ever now it underscores that Pac vs Floyd is the fight that HAS to happen!

Based on that performance Pac is back in the running with as good a chance as any of being able to get the goods, and Mayweather would know it too.

Expect more running and hiding to come fellas :yep!!! ;D

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A guy like Manny that falls-in on one foot, with his hands down will never beat Mayweather.

He can't even get by JMM.

Maidana would kick Tim's ass far worse than Manny did...you best believe that.

Maidana has been showing a LOT more lately than Bradley.

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Originally Posted by Ron Swanson

Floyd close but clear

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Same. 7-5 kind of fight. Odd fight this one. He did the same thing with Cotto including choosing to go to the ropes and at times the corners. I think he wanted to try and Cottofy the fight and it got away on him.
I was hoping he'd fight Khan next but I think he needs the rematch.

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Originally Posted by Gandalf

I watched the fight and thought Maidana started the fight incredibly well. It was like Mosley in round two, but from the off and sustained. It tapered off somewhat, but Maidana was still outworking Mayweather by the half way mark. I gave Mayweather only round 5 of the 1st 6. It started to turn around noticeably in the mid second half and Mayweathers shots were clearly flashier and he was dictating the pace more. That was clearly Mayweathers zone. I think I gave Maidana another mid round, but cannot recall which and then my stream chopped out somewhat in the 10th. I thought Maidana did enough to outhustle the final 2 rounds. Overall, my impressions were not absolute, but I felt Maidana did enough to win based on dominating the first half of the fight. I don't see how you can be 5-1 down and lose the final 2 and win the fight. I'm sure I gave him another round too.

I think Maidana won the fight and was surprised that Mayweathers legs looked so off, but I guess he is quite old and every challenger should want it as much as Maidana did. I am currently downloading and will watch it more closely and give a card, but first appraisals said Maidana.

Thoughts? And of course make sure you vote as I am into numbers.

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I have to rewatch the fight again. Cuz I saw it exactly the same way you did. The first 5 rounds I thought were maidanas then mayweather turned it up a notch but I still had maidana winning atleast 3 more rounds after the 6th. I don't see how the fight was scored for mayweather. I know that he knows what it really was. I've never seen him so nervous or scared in his life. But like I said I'm going to rewatch it and actually score it each round when they replay it.

7-5 for Floyd. I think Maidana did some great work early on, but Mayweather gained control of the fight in the second half.

116-112 Mayweather. I can't believe anyone actually gave that to Maidana. Do people really want Floyd to lose so badly that they'll cling on to any success an opponent has in a fight?

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Originally Posted by oakleyno1

I had Maidana 115-113 - 5 of the early 6 as well.

Compubox showed how close a fight it was - i dont have a problem if floyd won if by SD etc and close score - within a margin of appreciation for error - but 117-113 and 116-112 NO WAY!

Maidana 115-113 for me!

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I had it a draw... Maidana needed round 11 like how he won round 12, for me. The scores were outrageous aside from the draw. We ALL saw it.

I think Maidana won.

Of the 1st 6 rds, Maidana won 5 of them.

In the 2nd half, there were some close rds, but no way did Mayweather win 9 rds to 3 rds, anyone that says that is an idiot!




Their parents are probably idiots too...

I thought Maidana at the least deserved a draw. I scored it 114-114.

But I can see 115-113 for Maidana as a fair score, because there was a close round I gave to Floyd.

The deck was stacked against Maidana (gloves, ref, judges, etc). That's why I knew before the fight that even if Maidana won, he would officially lose.

I hear the translator f*<ked up Maidana's comments at the end.
Translator translated Maidana as: "Floyd did not fight like a man like I expected to."

Any Spanish speakers here can clear it up for us? 2min 29sec clip of Maidana's post-fight interview:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAnaUt90fEk

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Originally Posted by Beanflicker

7-5 for Floyd. I think Maidana did some great work early on, but Mayweather gained control of the fight in the second half.

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Close fight. I had it a draw or maybe Mayweather by one round. I'll watch and score it again.

By the way, @Beanflicker - has Mayweather slipped finally or was I wrong and Maidana is better than I thought?

Stopped scoring and started yelling instead, but have rewatched 3 times. Mayweather by two points. Have come to the conclusion its a given Broner was overrated and at this very juncture Mayweather is showing a bit of wear, likewise Maidana was wrongly written off as a caveman and has improved a good deal and is more than transitioned to a full welterweight well. The man was out jabbing Mayweather in there, head-body, and shut down his counter more than once. That was impressive and a reality!

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Originally Posted by Rantcatrat

has Mayweather slipped finally or was I wrong and Maidana is better than I thought?

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Better than you (and everyone else) thought. Great game plan, mixed up his attack, showed the best defense I've ever seen from him (blocking/slipping/rolling shots). He fought a great fight and kept Mayweather from getting into a counter punching groove.

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Originally Posted by bzkfn

116-112 Mayweather. I can't believe anyone actually gave that to Maidana. Do people really want Floyd to lose so badly that they'll cling on to any success an opponent has in a fight?

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Yeah, at BEST it was a draw. When he was bullying Mayweather in those early rounds and keeping Mayweather from throwing back with his pressure, you have to give those rounds to Maidana. But when Mayweather started landing the counters clean in the middle of the ring, that beats pushing a guy into the ropes and landing a couple of grazing blows and a few arm punches while being tied up.

Those claiming a Mayweather win must be forgetting the HARD body shots, specifically left hooks that Maidana was landing.

Ring generalship counts for something and when you are punishing a man from corner to corner while many times out jabbing him in the center of the ring to his 3 flashy punches landed, well you won the round.

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Originally Posted by bradlee180

I hear the translator f*<ked up Maidana's comments at the end.
Translator translated Maidana as: "Floyd did not fight like a man like I expected to."

Any Spanish speakers here can clear it up for us? 2min 29sec clip of Maidana's post-fight interview:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAnaUt90fEk

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He said Floyd has never faught a man like me hes never been hit by a real man.

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Originally Posted by bradlee180

I hear the translator f*<ked up Maidana's comments at the end.
Translator translated Maidana as: "Floyd did not fight like a man like I expected to."

Any Spanish speakers here can clear it up for us? 2min 29sec clip of Maidana's post-fight interview:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAnaUt90fEk

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He said Floyd has never faught a man like me hes never been hit by a real man.

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That's Mayorga talk! Lol

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Originally Posted by bradlee180

I hear the translator f*<ked up Maidana's comments at the end.
Translator translated Maidana as: "Floyd did not fight like a man like I expected to."

Any Spanish speakers here can clear it up for us? 2min 29sec clip of Maidana's post-fight interview:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAnaUt90fEk

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He said Floyd has never faught a man like me hes never been hit by a real man.

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That's Mayorga talk! Lol

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Ha the second correct version is actually worse since mistranslated hes just calling pbf not a man, in the other correct version hes calling 45 dudes not men haha, ill have to rewatch fight again but marcos was beastly.

Had it a draw last night. Watch it again this morning and gave it to Mayweather. He landed all the clean, flush punches.

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Originally Posted by Maravilla2012

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Originally Posted by bradlee180

I hear the translator f*<ked up Maidana's comments at the end.
Translator translated Maidana as: "Floyd did not fight like a man like I expected to."

Any Spanish speakers here can clear it up for us? 2min 29sec clip of Maidana's post-fight interview:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAnaUt90fEk

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He said Floyd has never faught a man like me hes never been hit by a real man.

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Thanks, dude.
That incompetent translator made it sound like Maidana disrespecting Mayweather bigtime which wasn't the case at all. Thanks for clearing it up here, Maravilla, it's too bad that millions of people will continue to think Maidana insulted Mayweather by saying he "did not fight like a man."

Floyd 117-114

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Originally Posted by Maravilla2012

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Originally Posted by bradlee180

I hear the translator f*<ked up Maidana's comments at the end.
Translator translated Maidana as: "Floyd did not fight like a man like I expected to."

Any Spanish speakers here can clear it up for us? 2min 29sec clip of Maidana's post-fight interview:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAnaUt90fEk

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He said Floyd has never faught a man like me hes never been hit by a real man.

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Thanks, dude.
That incompetent translator made it sound like Maidana disrespecting Mayweather bigtime which wasn't the case at all. Thanks for clearing it up here, Maravilla, it's too bad that millions of people will continue to think Maidana insulted Mayweather by saying he "did not fight like a man."

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The transaltors they use at interviews and ringside etc are usually quite sloppy.

1 - Maidana
2 - Maidana
3 - Maidana
4 - Maidana
5 -Maidana
6 - Maidana
7 - Mayweather
8 - Mayweather
9 - Mayweather
10 - Mayweather
11 - Maidana
12 - Maidana

Overall - 116 -112 Maidana

I was surprised because I initially thought it was closer, but Maidana outhustled his man and it had shades of Duran/Leonard. Mayweather was that bit slower, his legs are going, and thus Maidana got him on the ropes again and again, and those body shots just could not miss. Overall the flashier punching was from Mayweather, but it was in spurts and in 4 rounds. Otherwise, Maidana was outlanding Mayweather and forcing him out of his comfort zone again and again. Maybe another, but less apt, but more so in terms of where Floyd is, is Jones Jr/Tarver 1. Jones got the nod, but looked asleep and next time out was asleep.

Give Maidana his punchers gloves, another camp to work on the method, and Mayweather another period of aging, and Maidana might well stop him. Mayweather against Pac is a tedious chore we all talk about now, but both fighters have declined, so it is still a pick 'em.

I also want to apologise to Al Bernstein who I saw was scoring the fight in a way I could understand except towards the end. I have been critical elsewhere, but he was the more accurate of Showtimes crew and that is usually the case. He's usually very decent. It was the other two Showtime scorers that I thought were very off and certainly so at the half way mark. On watching the fight again, the single first half round I gave to Mayweather elsewhere was taken away as I prefer aggression over flashy pot shots. Likewise, a round I gave to Maidana in the second half was taken away as he didn't do enough either.

I'm surprised to see so many think Mayweather won as the rounds he won, he won convincingly with a much higher connect rate, but Maidaina seemed to outland him in a lot of rounds. I also feel a lot of those body shots and clean jabs to the body by Maidana were likely ignored by Showtime's stats. At times Maidana was handling his own in the middle of the ring, but he was more effective when bullying Mayweather and he did that a lot.

I don't believe Mayweather when he says he wanted to give the fans what they wanted. He has seldom done that unless forced into it and age and Maidana's strength forced it. You don't sit on the ropes eating 5 straight body punches and 2 to the head from a fighter like Maidana to milk the crowd. You don't let him do enough to outwork you either in an effort to impress people. The man is older and the opponent refused to play the game by forcing the pace. 2007 Hatton would have enjoyed facing this Mayweather, a lot of opportunities to unload to the body, very open to the head too, with these slowing reflexes. Still, amazing, but opportunities are revealing themselves a lot more now.

Miles i seen you on the site for a while but i think you are seeing this fight through different eyes then most people are. i mean you fucking hate Mayweather and give any close round to the other guy. The fact that you gave him the 11th is nuts and you don't think he could of won any early rounds at all.

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Originally Posted by Gandalf

1 - Maidana
2 - Maidana
3 - Maidana
4 - Maidana
5 -Maidana
6 - Maidana
7 - Mayweather
8 - Mayweather
9 - Mayweather
10 - Mayweather
11 - Maidana
12 - Maidana

Overall - 116 -112 Maidana

I was surprised because I initially thought it was closer, but Maidana outhustled his man and it had shades of Duran/Leonard. Mayweather was that bit slower, his legs are going, and thus Maidana got him on the ropes again and again, and those body shots just could not miss. Overall the flashier punching was from Mayweather, but it was in spurts and in 4 rounds. Otherwise, Maidana was outlanding Mayweather and forcing him out of his comfort zone again and again. Maybe another, but less apt, but more so in terms of where Floyd is, is Jones Jr/Tarver 1. Jones got the nod, but looked asleep and next time out was asleep.

Give Maidana his punchers gloves, another camp to work on the method, and Mayweather another period of aging, and Maidana might well stop him. Mayweather against Pac is a tedious chore we all talk about now, but both fighters have declined, so it is still a pick 'em.

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And we can trust you to give an unbiased assessment...after all...look at your .gif of Floyd. Stop being a hater man...your score is preposterous and you know it. Maidana wasn't out landing shit...he threw a ton more punches and missed a ton more. A good, close fight...but Mayweather won. Keep hating and look like a silly school kid.

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Originally Posted by Mr140

Miles i seen you on the site for a while but i think you are seeing this fight through different eyes then most people are. i mean you fucking hate Mayweather and give any close round to the other guy. The fact that you gave him the 11th is nuts and you don't think he could of won any early rounds at all.

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I don't like Mayweather, but I respect him as fighter, and felt sorry for him after 4. He lost each of those 4 rounds and occasional landed pot shots do not win rounds for me. He was getting bullied and beaten up. I don't think he was active enough to win the first half of the fight at all. He was like Hopkins in his final days at MW and not throwing enough punches to win rounds and at least Hopkins didn't use to sit on the ropes in the half a fight he would take off. Maidana was more active than Mayweather in the 11th, forced Mayweather to fight his fight, and landed the harder shots.

I like aggression, output, and Maidana, though clumsy, landed hard and constantly pushed Mayweather to the ropes and worked. Over 220 recognised landed punches suggests that Maidana won his share of the rounds and like I say in the rounds I give Mayweather he outlanded Maidana a lot, so many of his scored punches came in those 4 rounds and Maidana logically must have been outlanding him in scores of other rounds. I suspect the round by round punch stats will suggest as much.

it was a close fight that i thought mayweather deserved the nod but it wouldnt have been a robbery if maidana pulled out a victory somehow. a draw would have been acceptable too but overall, i think that mayweather deserved the W. i had it 7-5 for floyd. maidana had a great gameplan but he just wasnt effective for long enough in the fight. he won a majority of the early rounds but lost a majority of the later ones. although he still remained aggressive, mayweather started landed more cleanly and started to stay off the ropes a little more.

Really don't feel his punches were better then the ones Mayweather was landing and a lot of his shit was missing from what i saw. I will give my scoring later but i can not see a way Madiana won a draw is his best deal and that is pushing it. I feel most people see it the same i don't think it is a robbery at all dude it was just a close win for Mayweather. Bet if fightcollector came in took everyone scores from here, other sites and the press that it would be a Mayweather win like 80 percent maybe even 90 percent i will agree that he looked 37 in there though.