Shawn Porter and Keith Thurman would beat Mayweather's ass

Manny Pacquiao is an old cheater and doesn't have the pop in his punches anymore. Maidana did good against Mayweather but Mayweather adjusted and took over the fight, and would likely just fight a boring fight in a rematch for an easy win. Those two fights are pointless.

Shawn Porter or Keith Thurman would beat the shit out of Mayweather because Mayweather isn't as sharp or quick as he was and can't run from these guys all night. And these guys have too much EXPLOSIVE power for Money May.

Maidana has power but he's not explosive.

A guy like Thurman will punch someones head off and he hits like a heavyweight.

Maidana isn't a terrific athlete, but he is probably now much craftier than Porter or Thurman are, I wouldn't be confident either of those guys would improve on his success against Floyd just because they are more explosive.

Imagine if Floyd had never fought Canelo, would anyone not think he'd lose that fight were it being discussed today? Alvarez is more powerful than any of these guys, and it meant zilch. I would love to see Floyd fight Porter or Thurman though, and wouldn't favour him by much, don't get me wrong.

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Maidana isn't a terrific athlete, but he is probably now much craftier than Porter or Thurman are, I wouldn't be confident either of those guys would improve on his success against Floyd just because they are more explosive.

Imagine if Floyd had never fought Canelo, would anyone not think he'd lose that fight were it being discussed today? Alvarez is more powerful than any of these guys, and it meant zilch. I would love to see Floyd fight Porter or Thurman though, and wouldn't favour him by much, don't get me wrong.

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The thing is Canelo isn't fast at all. Hand speed is decent but he's foot work is to slow then it makes Maidana look like Floyd. That's the difference Shawn and thruman have speed power technique. Floyd would struggle I lf not lose. Garcia would be just like the canelo fight.

its not as much speed that floyd has trouble with but with awkward brawling. fighters like augustus, castillo, and maidana have been able to make the fight kind of ugly. if you cant make the fight ugly for floyd, you probably arent going to win. i just dont see thurman or porter being able to fight that fight.

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its not as much speed that floyd has trouble with but with awkward brawling. fighters like augustus, castillo, and maidana have been able to make the fight kind of ugly. if you cant make the fight ugly for floyd, you probably arent going to win. i just dont see thurman or porter being able to fight that fight.

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agree. They bang well, but they are predictable.

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Manny Pacquiao is an old cheater and doesn't have the pop in his punches anymore. Maidana did good against Mayweather but Mayweather adjusted and took over the fight, and would likely just fight a boring fight in a rematch for an easy win. Those two fights are pointless.

Shawn Porter or Keith Thurman would beat the shit out of Mayweather because Mayweather isn't as sharp or quick as he was and can't run from these guys all night. And these guys have too much EXPLOSIVE power for Money May.

Maidana has power but he's not explosive.

A guy like Thurman will punch someones head off and he hits like a heavyweight.

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I've personally never tried smoking crack...but clearly you have @Beanflicker. How do you like it and are you planning to use for the rest of your soon to be short life or are you just dabbling with it?

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Manny Pacquiao is an old cheater and doesn't have the pop in his punches anymore. Maidana did good against Mayweather but Mayweather adjusted and took over the fight, and would likely just fight a boring fight in a rematch for an easy win. Those two fights are pointless.

Shawn Porter or Keith Thurman would beat the shit out of Mayweather because Mayweather isn't as sharp or quick as he was and can't run from these guys all night. And these guys have too much EXPLOSIVE power for Money May.

Maidana has power but he's not explosive.

A guy like Thurman will punch someones head off and he hits like a heavyweight.

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Are you drunk?

Porter MAYBE...

Thurman I like better, but he doesn't bring the pressure.

Plus most fighters will not bring the fearless mentality into the ring that Maidana will.

Dude. Really man? :cwm13:

No.

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I've personally never tried smoking crack...but clearly you have @Beanflicker. How do you like it and are you planning to use for the rest of your soon to be short life or are you just dabbling with it?

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Listen asshole, I have a great track record of picking upsets, and if you don't believe me you can check my betting receipts.

I come from a long line of upset pickers. My older brother picked Douglas over Tyson and Pinckney over Jones. My dad picked Ali over Liston and Ali over Foreman. My grandfather had Turpin over Robinson. My great grandfather had Braddock over Baer and bet $40 (two weeks salary at the time) that Schmeling would knock out Louis.

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I've personally never tried smoking crack...but clearly you have @Beanflicker. How do you like it and are you planning to use for the rest of your soon to be short life or are you just dabbling with it?

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Listen asshole, I have a great track record of picking upsets, and if you don't believe me you can check my betting receipts.

I come from a long line of upset pickers. My older brother picked Douglas over Tyson and Pinckney over Jones. My dad picked Ali over Liston and Ali over Foreman. My grandfather had Turpin over Robinson. My great grandfather had Braddock over Baer and bet $40 (two weeks salary at the time) that Schmeling would knock out Louis.

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The BOXING MESSIAH has returned!

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interestingly shawn porter has a few good wins and then an impressive win over mallinagi and all of a sudden hes good enough to beat mayweather?

and it isn't just beanflicker that's saying this coz if it was we could obviously all just laugh

You know what? The sad thing is we're never going to find out if I'm right or wrong, because Mayweather is not going to fight either of these guys.

He'll fight Maidana which will be an easy win, he'll probably fight Khan, and then he'll close his career out against Manny Pacquaio, who is already washed up and will be even worse a year and a half or two years down the road.

And you idiots are going to let him do it because you want to see a fight that mattered 5 years ago.

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interestingly shawn porter has a few good wins and then an impressive win over mallinagi and all of a sudden hes good enough to beat mayweather?

and it isn't just beanflicker that's saying this coz if it was we could obviously all just laugh

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People who a) know boxing and b) are intelligent look at more than just records and accomplishments. That shit is just ink on a page. When two men get in the ring, it's about three things: physical, mental, and style.

Mentally, Floyd dwarfs these guys. Physically, he has deteriorated and even though he has great style, he doesn't want to have to deal with the style and physicality of these young guys.

It makes no sense for Floyd, at 38, to fight these young hungry lions who have tremendous athletic ability. He doesn't want to fight these guys. He's old and only has a few fights left, and he wants to gracefully ride out into the sunset against guys he can eat up like Maidana and Pacman.

Beanflicker is going a bit mental in his old age with this bias poll.

I would prefer to see Thurman against Floyd next, at least he will do better and give it a go that Chino who is very limited.

I would not like to see Floyd fight Porter that would be too easy in comparison to the threat Thurman.

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Manny Pacquiao is an old cheater and doesn't have the pop in his punches anymore. Maidana did good against Mayweather but Mayweather adjusted and took over the fight, and would likely just fight a boring fight in a rematch for an easy win. Those two fights are pointless.

Shawn Porter or Keith Thurman would beat the shit out of Mayweather because Mayweather isn't as sharp or quick as he was and can't run from these guys all night. And these guys have too much EXPLOSIVE power for Money May.

Maidana has power but he's not explosive.

A guy like Thurman will punch someones head off and he hits like a heavyweight.

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I've personally never tried smoking crack...but clearly you have @Beanflicker. How do you like it and are you planning to use for the rest of your soon to be short life or are you just dabbling with it?

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Beans is addicted to Hateraide.

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Beanflicker is going a bit mental in his old age with this bias poll.

I would prefer to see Thurman against Floyd next, at least he will do better and give it a go that Chino who is very limited.

I would not like to see Floyd fight Porter that would be too easy in comparison to the threat Thurman.

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Hahaha what part you don't like? The steroid cheat? Hahahha

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Beanflicker is going a bit mental in his old age with this bias poll.

I would prefer to see Thurman against Floyd next, at least he will do better and give it a go that Chino who is very limited.

I would not like to see Floyd fight Porter that would be too easy in comparison to the threat Thurman.

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Hahaha what part you don't like? The steroid cheat? Hahahha

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Yes and the third option was funny.

Lol@ the choices. Never seen an opinion put into a multiple choice question quite like it.

These two are not even in the same end of the pool and there are people on here calling Geale a B fighter lol.

Not everybody is Moore or Hopkins and if he's around long enough he could get beat by somebody who couldn't carry his jock strap. That 50/0 mark is a mountain.

I don't know anything about boxing I guess because I want to see Maidana 2. The first fight never did a million buys but I'd bet the second does close to 1.5 so it's a gold mine financially. Its also his worst showing since Castillo 1 against a guy lets face it, that should have been a cake walk. At this time in his career and if he has any concerns with legacy imo he needs to get this fight. If he does a poll, I bet its a runaway.

I think Floyds fixated on the Cotto/Martinez winner but that cant happen on Sept 13. Three months is not enough time for either man. I think the public pressure will build and aside from the phantom fight there really is no bigger fight. Khan would do ok but its the added difficulty Maidana gave him the makes the rematch huge.

Thurman is entering into that foggy land of overrating and or overstating this early on to me. I need to see a helluva less loading up, posturing for a bomb and getting caught with throw away shots from the likes of slow motion Diaz and Soto Karrass before I'd suggest he demolishes a Mayweather, or a Porter for that matter.

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Beanflicker is going a bit mental in his old age with this bias poll.

I would prefer to see Thurman against Floyd next, at least he will do better and give it a go that Chino who is very limited.

I would not like to see Floyd fight Porter that would be too easy in comparison to the threat Thurman.

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Hahaha what part you don't like? The steroid cheat? Hahahha

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Yes and the third option was funny.

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I don't think I'm biased at all but take that opinion with a grain of salt because I might be biased.

Think both might be too green for Floyd at this point, but Porter will be tough to beat right now. Such an awkward style n he is very fast, athletic, strong, and aggressive. Not quite as talented as Roy was, but WAY more physical n aggressive. Bad style match up for Floyd, especially now. That being said, Floyd is a great fighter n extremely experienced so I would still bet on him. I like Thurman, but he isn't ready n I think Floyd picks him apart n dominates him. Thurman is a good puncher, but Floyd will be too slick n pick him apart. Better style match up for Floyd.

Forget Floyd. Porter and Thurman should fight each other

Floyd is going to rematch Maidana...and there shouldn't be anyone who has any issues with that. People keep pining for the Khan fight...but Khan has plenty of other options: a Garcia rematch, a fight with Broner, etc. Porter and Thurman are young and have potential...but they aren't quite there yet. Anyone who thinks either of them "would beat Mayweather's ass" doesn't know their head from their ass.

I would love to see Broner v Khan. I think Broner would be outclassed. I want to see Broner being someone the young bucks fight as they solidify themselves in the pros. I want to see Khan put him on that path.

A Floyd v Maidana rematch gotta be interesting. Would Floyd come in and completely dominate. That is what I was originally thinking, Floyd had faced Maidana and a rematch would not serve Maidana well but Maidana isn't going in there thinking that. I wouldn't go as far as saying Floyd will lose but I think he will have a tough time winning. Sure Floyd picked up somethings facing Maidana but Maidana did the same. I think it will be another interesting fight.

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Manny Pacquiao is an old cheater and doesn't have the pop in his punches anymore. Maidana did good against Mayweather but Mayweather adjusted and took over the fight, and would likely just fight a boring fight in a rematch for an easy win. Those two fights are pointless.

Shawn Porter or Keith Thurman would beat the shit out of Mayweather because Mayweather isn't as sharp or quick as he was and can't run from these guys all night. And these guys have too much EXPLOSIVE power for Money May.

Maidana has power but he's not explosive.

A guy like Thurman will punch someones head off and he hits like a heavyweight.

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You are fast becoming Brockton Mk. II minus the obvious tounge in cheek.

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Manny Pacquiao is an old cheater and doesn't have the pop in his punches anymore. Maidana did good against Mayweather but Mayweather adjusted and took over the fight, and would likely just fight a boring fight in a rematch for an easy win. Those two fights are pointless.

Shawn Porter or Keith Thurman would beat the shit out of Mayweather because Mayweather isn't as sharp or quick as he was and can't run from these guys all night. And these guys have too much EXPLOSIVE power for Money May.

Maidana has power but he's not explosive.

A guy like Thurman will punch someones head off and he hits like a heavyweight.

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You are fast becoming Brockton Mk. II minus the obvious tounge in cheek.

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Pipe down I got more legacy here than you do.

Lol so does 95% of the board, nothing to be proud of

My initial thought was a simple no.

But the more I think about it the more complex it gets. These guys are young. They are large welterweights. They have power. They have speed. Each has the ability to put a plan in place and execute said plan. And each has shown the ability to adjust at least somewhat.

Floyd is old. He's not a large welterweight although he has grown into the division. And these kids grew up watching his every move. Thurman says every fight he prepares to fight Floyd. That kind of singular focus can't be discounted.

I'd take Floyd to beat either unless he looks off in the Maidana rematch but I wouldn't count these kids out.

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Forget Floyd. Porter and Thurman should fight each other

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Agreed and the lack of Pac in this converation is no surprise. No way
Pac huggers welcome this possible KO /beating after JMM KO . Pac is a welterweight champion too but of course its' all about bashing Mayweather and having him lose the "0" by this pro PAC forum. Pack should fight one of these bucs first after he is a marque name that was recently KTFO. Mayweather is side "A" and Pac is side "B" after JMM loss. So this talk should be of one of these two young powerful champions fighting Pac first !!! Then moving onto Mayweather.

1) Yes these guys would smash Pacquiao
2) No these guys are not Pacquiao class,these guys have to lose to Money first before qualifying to fight Pac.
3) I don't know a lot about boxing so I wanna see Pac fight another opponent coming off a loss, at a catch weight or all of the above so I can keep posting like I know something about boxing.
4) Pacquiao may be a washed up steroid cheat that just overcame fear of needles and new VADA kickback sponsor , but I worship him and his mommas hex's. I will defend him no matter what facts are presented.


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