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Chris Burrito should retire, young, like Fernando Vargas
Yeah, the guy is just not that good or smart of a fighter. Too much hype and talking and eating burritos and not enough results. He should just reitre young like "ferocious" (hahahha) Fernando Vargas. Same story there, too. Lots of LosAngeles-Mexican-Machissimo stories and hype and really not enough results to back it up .......... these type of guys just don't have it, they have flashes of greatness (that is stretching it as well to call it greatness, more like "goodness") and then long periods of either inactivity or mediocre performances.
Better for the Beef and Bean Burrito to just call it a day, was in the best shape of his life, was rematching a guy who had caught him with the right hand and he got caught with the same right hand again. Arreola can fight on if he wants, but I won't be watching too seriously.
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Vargas was a very good fighter. Better than Canelo so far.
Arreola is all heart so show some respect.
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Re: Chris Burrito should retire, young, like Fernando Vargas
Vargas was an excellent fighter and had a good career.
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Re: Chris Burrito should retire, young, like Fernando Vargas
Come on man, Burrito doesn't even rhyme with Arreola? Step up your game bud ;D Vargas was a level above Chris
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Re: Chris Burrito should retire, young, like Fernando Vargas
I loved Vargas, he was such a talented fighter for the number of fights he had. Floyd would never have moved up and fought him at his best.
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Re: Chris Burrito should retire, young, like Fernando Vargas
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Master
I loved Vargas, he was such a talented fighter for the number of fights he had. Floyd would never have moved up and fought him at his best.
Vargas wasn't shit..you're delusional if you think that trash would beat Floyd.
If Vargas was good enough to beat Floyd he would have beat Tito like a rented mule.
He was a SOLID fighter..nothing more...nothing less.
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Re: Chris Burrito should retire, young, like Fernando Vargas
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Master
I loved Vargas, he was such a talented fighter for the number of fights he had. Floyd would never have moved up and fought him at his best.
Vargas wasn't shit..you're delusional if you think that trash would beat Floyd.
If Vargas was good enough to beat Floyd he would have beat Tito like a rented mule.
He was a SOLID fighter..nothing more...nothing less.
Tito was a monster puncher and Vargas literally walked into the left hooks. Vargas beats Floyd, pretty boy does not punch as hard.
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Re: Chris Burrito should retire, young, like Fernando Vargas
Vargas was solid and had a lot of heart, he earned my respect in the Tito fight. But when you're getting out boxed by Ricardo Mayorga it's time to hang em up.
I liked Arreola but he's a HW gatekeeper at best.
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Re: Chris Burrito should retire, young, like Fernando Vargas
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Beanflicker
Vargas was solid and had a lot of heart, he earned my respect in the Tito fight. But when you're getting out boxed by Ricardo Mayorga it's time to hang em up.
I liked Arreola but he's a HW gatekeeper at best.
Vargas did hang up after the mayoga fight. He beat ike, campus and winky at his best.
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Re: Chris Burrito should retire, young, like Fernando Vargas
Yeah that's what I mean he was world class for sure but had a sharp decline.
Arreola was never anything and showed up obese when he got the big Klitschko fight.
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Re: Chris Burrito should retire, young, like Fernando Vargas
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Master
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Master
I loved Vargas, he was such a talented fighter for the number of fights he had. Floyd would never have moved up and fought him at his best.
Vargas wasn't shit..you're delusional if you think that trash would beat Floyd.
If Vargas was good enough to beat Floyd he would have beat Tito like a rented mule.
He was a SOLID fighter..nothing more...nothing less.
Tito was a monster puncher and Vargas literally walked into the left hooks. Vargas beats Floyd, pretty boy does not punch as hard.
Winky doesn't punch hard...nor does Hopkins...they both whipped Tito and neither are as good as Floyd.
Think before you type.
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Re: Chris Burrito should retire, young, like Fernando Vargas
Vargas couldnt beat Floyd in a million years. That is the most outrageous thing I ever heard on this forum. Literally. Vargas couldnt beat Trinidad, whose boxing skills are mediocre (ODLH and WRight completely and easily outboxed Tito), and Vargas couldnt beat Tito.
How on EARTH would Vargas beat the Boxing Wizard mayweather??? again, itas the MOST RIDICULOUS thing I ever read on this forum. Literally.
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Re: Chris Burrito should retire, young, like Fernando Vargas
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brocktonblockbust
Vargas couldnt beat Floyd in a million years. That is the most outrageous thing I ever heard on this forum. Literally. Vargas couldnt beat Trinidad, whose boxing skills are mediocre (ODLH and WRight completely and easily outboxed Tito), and Vargas couldnt beat Tito.
How on EARTH would Vargas beat the Boxing Wizard mayweather??? again, itas the MOST RIDICULOUS thing I ever read on this forum. Literally.
Brock I have read some crazy posts from you so lets not exaggerate here. What I am saying is that a prime Vargas beats Floyd which is no shame as Fernando was a true light middleweight. Floyd is barely a legitimate welterweight. Vargas would have schooled the Canelo that Floyd fought.
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Re: Chris Burrito should retire, young, like Fernando Vargas
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cyclone
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Master
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cyclone
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Master
I loved Vargas, he was such a talented fighter for the number of fights he had. Floyd would never have moved up and fought him at his best.
Vargas wasn't shit..you're delusional if you think that trash would beat Floyd.
If Vargas was good enough to beat Floyd he would have beat Tito like a rented mule.
He was a SOLID fighter..nothing more...nothing less.
Tito was a monster puncher and Vargas literally walked into the left hooks. Vargas beats Floyd, pretty boy does not punch as hard.
Winky doesn't punch hard...nor does Hopkins...they both whipped Tito and neither are as good as Floyd.
Think before you type.
Your mixing the boxers to suit your argument so you think what you are typing. I am making the point that a prime Vargas beats Floyd.
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Master
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brocktonblockbust
Vargas couldnt beat Floyd in a million years. That is the most outrageous thing I ever heard on this forum. Literally. Vargas couldnt beat Trinidad, whose boxing skills are mediocre (ODLH and WRight completely and easily outboxed Tito), and Vargas couldnt beat Tito.
How on EARTH would Vargas beat the Boxing Wizard mayweather??? again, itas the MOST RIDICULOUS thing I ever read on this forum. Literally.
Brock I have read some crazy posts from you so lets not exaggerate here. What I am saying is that a prime Vargas beats Floyd which is no shame as Fernando was a true light middleweight. Floyd is barely a legitimate welterweight. Vargas would have schooled the Canelo that Floyd fought.
How could Vargas beat Floyd?
Um....on SIZE and STRENGTH. Duh.
Throw in the world class talent he had and that is a very steep mountain for Floyd to climb.
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Re: Chris Burrito should retire, young, like Fernando Vargas
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Hulk
Vargas was a very good fighter. Better than Canelo so far.
Arreola is all heart so show some respect.
And all stomach as well. :lickish:
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Re: Chris Burrito should retire, young, like Fernando Vargas
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Hulk
How could Vargas beat Floyd?
Um....on SIZE and STRENGTH. Duh.
Throw in the world class talent he had and that is a very steep mountain for Floyd to climb.
Well it takes more than size and strength to beat a guy like Floyd obviously.
But for all his size and strength, he lost to Felix, who had only been at 154 for a little over a year. Oscar, who had just jumped up to 154 (Fernando was supposed to be too big for Oscar), Shane Mosley x2, who had his best days a LW and was a natural WW, and Ricardo Mayorga, a WW.
So why are we talking like he's going to beat Floyd ass because Floyd is a WW? Fernardo has a long history of getting his ass beat by WWs.
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Beanflicker
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Hulk
How could Vargas beat Floyd?
Um....on SIZE and STRENGTH. Duh.
Throw in the world class talent he had and that is a very steep mountain for Floyd to climb.
Well it takes more than size and strength to beat a guy like Floyd obviously.
But for all his size and strength, he lost to Felix, who had only been at 154 for a little over a year. Oscar, who had just jumped up to 154 (Fernando was supposed to be too big for Oscar), Shane Mosley x2, who had his best days a LW and was a natural WW, and Ricardo Mayorga, a WW.
So why are we talking like he's going to beat Floyd ass because Floyd is a WW? Fernardo has a long history of getting his ass beat by WWs.
Love Mayorga but it's not fair to count his win against Vargas when discussing his prime. Vargas was very much damaged goods even when he fought Mosley.
A prime Oscar probably beats Floyd at welter. Tito could very well get outboxed or land a bomb at that weight. Floyd wouldn't hurt either much to discourage them.
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Re: Chris Burrito should retire, young, like Fernando Vargas
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Master
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brocktonblockbust
Vargas couldnt beat Floyd in a million years. That is the most outrageous thing I ever heard on this forum. Literally. Vargas couldnt beat Trinidad, whose boxing skills are mediocre (ODLH and WRight completely and easily outboxed Tito), and Vargas couldnt beat Tito.
How on EARTH would Vargas beat the Boxing Wizard mayweather??? again, itas the MOST RIDICULOUS thing I ever read on this forum. Literally.
Brock I have read some crazy posts from you so lets not exaggerate here. What I am saying is that a prime Vargas beats Floyd which is no shame as Fernando was a true light middleweight. Floyd is barely a legitimate welterweight. Vargas would have schooled the Canelo that Floyd fought.
I am indeed exaggerating on this one. It is not the craziest post ever on Saddo's. It is not even in the top 25. But I still don't think Vargas in his prime could deal with Floyd's speed (when Floyd was in his prime too). It could go a split decision for Floyd, but I cant see Fernando catching Floyd.
I completely agree Master that Vargas would wipe up the floor with Canelo.
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Re: Chris Burrito should retire, young, like Fernando Vargas
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brocktonblockbust
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Master
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brocktonblockbust
Vargas couldnt beat Floyd in a million years. That is the most outrageous thing I ever heard on this forum. Literally. Vargas couldnt beat Trinidad, whose boxing skills are mediocre (ODLH and WRight completely and easily outboxed Tito), and Vargas couldnt beat Tito.
How on EARTH would Vargas beat the Boxing Wizard mayweather??? again, itas the MOST RIDICULOUS thing I ever read on this forum. Literally.
Brock I have read some crazy posts from you so lets not exaggerate here. What I am saying is that a prime Vargas beats Floyd which is no shame as Fernando was a true light middleweight. Floyd is barely a legitimate welterweight. Vargas would have schooled the Canelo that Floyd fought.
I am indeed exaggerating on this one. It is not the craziest post ever on Saddo's. It is not even in the top 25. But I still don't think Vargas in his prime could deal with Floyd's speed (when Floyd was in his prime too). It could go a split decision for Floyd, but I cant see Fernando catching Floyd.
I completely agree Master that Vargas would wipe up the floor with Canelo.
Floyd would be too small and not hit hard enough to keep a prime Vargas which is pre Tito damaged him with those hands.
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Re: Chris Burrito should retire, young, like Fernando Vargas
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Master
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brocktonblockbust
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Originally Posted by
Master
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Originally Posted by
brocktonblockbust
Vargas couldnt beat Floyd in a million years. That is the most outrageous thing I ever heard on this forum. Literally. Vargas couldnt beat Trinidad, whose boxing skills are mediocre (ODLH and WRight completely and easily outboxed Tito), and Vargas couldnt beat Tito.
How on EARTH would Vargas beat the Boxing Wizard mayweather??? again, itas the MOST RIDICULOUS thing I ever read on this forum. Literally.
Brock I have read some crazy posts from you so lets not exaggerate here. What I am saying is that a prime Vargas beats Floyd which is no shame as Fernando was a true light middleweight. Floyd is barely a legitimate welterweight. Vargas would have schooled the Canelo that Floyd fought.
I am indeed exaggerating on this one. It is not the craziest post ever on Saddo's. It is not even in the top 25. But I still don't think Vargas in his prime could deal with Floyd's speed (when Floyd was in his prime too). It could go a split decision for Floyd, but I cant see Fernando catching Floyd.
I completely agree Master that Vargas would wipe up the floor with Canelo.
Floyd would be too small and not hit hard enough to keep a prime Vargas which is pre Tito damaged him with those hands.
Floyd could never KO Vargas. Ever. Floyd hasnt KOed anyone since 2005. I do NOT count the Ortiz KO as a KO. It was a CHEAT-O
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Re: Chris Burrito should retire, young, like Fernando Vargas
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brocktonblockbust
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Master
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brocktonblockbust
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Originally Posted by
Master
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brocktonblockbust
Vargas couldnt beat Floyd in a million years. That is the most outrageous thing I ever heard on this forum. Literally. Vargas couldnt beat Trinidad, whose boxing skills are mediocre (ODLH and WRight completely and easily outboxed Tito), and Vargas couldnt beat Tito.
How on EARTH would Vargas beat the Boxing Wizard mayweather??? again, itas the MOST RIDICULOUS thing I ever read on this forum. Literally.
Brock I have read some crazy posts from you so lets not exaggerate here. What I am saying is that a prime Vargas beats Floyd which is no shame as Fernando was a true light middleweight. Floyd is barely a legitimate welterweight. Vargas would have schooled the Canelo that Floyd fought.
I am indeed exaggerating on this one. It is not the craziest post ever on Saddo's. It is not even in the top 25. But I still don't think Vargas in his prime could deal with Floyd's speed (when Floyd was in his prime too). It could go a split decision for Floyd, but I cant see Fernando catching Floyd.
I completely agree Master that Vargas would wipe up the floor with Canelo.
Floyd would be too small and not hit hard enough to keep a prime Vargas which is pre Tito damaged him with those hands.
Floyd could never KO Vargas. Ever. Floyd hasnt KOed anyone since 2005. I do NOT count the Ortiz KO as a KO. It was a CHEAT-O
So you agree Floyd will not hurt Vargas, so other than marginal speed what does Floyd have to beat Fernando?