Seems like Arum is saying this is the most likely match up that is close to happening. Is he just tryina get Pacquiao back to knocking people out?
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Seems like Arum is saying this is the most likely match up that is close to happening. Is he just tryina get Pacquiao back to knocking people out?
Horrible mismatch. lololol....Quote:
Originally Posted by Maravilla2012
Algieri is at 140 isn't he? So I guess Pacquiao does really seem like he wants to move down
Fuck this fight. Have no interest in seeing Pacquaio chase/dominate this guy.
couldn't agree more. I wanted Pacquiao to go against someone like Shawn Porter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hulk
Unless Oscar makes friends with Arum, which has happened, and GBP still has these fighters and they have not moved it could happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maravilla2012couldn't agree more. I wanted Pacquiao to go against someone like Shawn Porter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hulk
The fight is a waste of time and means JMM has not agreed to the fight.
Wow. Manny has to feel like a dairy cow being milked dry by old man Arum while watching the bulls posture up in the other pasture.
On the other side, here's Chris at the contract signing... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFlcqWQVVuU
This is a shockingly bad matchup. It's in Macau too. It's possible Canelo Lara does better numbers than this fight will.
I'll take the bait... Chris Algieri SD.
Pathetic
I could see that happening since Algieri should how good he could move with Ruslan.Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless rocco
Think everyone is getting annoyed that the bes fighters are not fighting one another but second rate fighters charging PPV prices. Joke called boxing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Swanson
One of the best posts that literally sums up everything!Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterThink everyone is getting annoyed that the bes fighters are not fighting one another but second rate fighters charging PPV prices. Joke called boxing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Swanson
I won't pay to watch it. If it's on HBO I will watch it though. Pac destroys him. He is too fast, too experienced, n hits too hard. Provodnikov is one dimensional and comes straight forward. Manny is all over the place n hits harder with one shot. Manny by mid to late stoppage.
This is one of those fights where if it were on regular HBO, I wouldn't have a problem with it. If they're going PPV with it, it's a tough sell. I like Algieri because he's a good boxer and he's got loads of heart, but he's unknown and not a huge personality. I actually give him a shot at beating Pacquiao if I'm honest, not a huge one, but a shot.
Speaking of HBO, just saw Rigos next fight was reduced to Unimas channel ffs
pac-khan makes more sense
Other than Mrs. Algieri.... has anyone ever seen this guy before??
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Originally Posted by MasterThink everyone is getting annoyed that the bes fighters are not fighting one another but second rate fighters charging PPV prices. Joke called boxing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Swanson
I've been questioning why I still watch this sport. Algiergi hasn't even proven himself to be one of the best at 140. He simply beat Ruslan who didn't prove he was one of the best at 140. Ruslan simply beat Alvarado who didn't prove he was one of the best at 140. Alvarado simply beat Rios who didn't prove he was one of thhe best at 140, he just ran there because he didn't want to train hard and got schooled at 135.
But bring on Pac, one of the best fighters in the sport. Now Pac, who is supposedly considering going to 140, will make this unproven Jr. Welter move to Welter.
Understand I'm not solely judging Pac when I say again, pathetic. Not disappointing, not a let down, utterly pathetic
Pac isn't what he used to be.
I'm not sure if it's because he's old.
I'm not sure if it's because he stopped using PEDs.
I give Chris a decent chance in this fight.
for how hard of a time people give floyd for cherry picking fights, pac has been a million times worse over the last 2 years. floyd has mostly picked solid fights while pac has picked ridiculous fights that nobody cares about. there is no way that someone at pac's level and status should be wasting his time with somebody like algeri. go big or go home. pac is honestly becoming more and more irrelevant to me. he is moving down the chain on who i even care about watching.
Terrible matchup. I like Algieri a lot, but he doesn't deserve a super fight yet. Pac should be finishing his career with name opponents, not people who were on FNF just a couple of fights ago. Shame on Bob Arum. As usual.
That means three consecutive light hitting opponents after being KTFO in devastating fashion . Guess this is all smoke and mirrors , Pac and Arum no longer have the balls to fight an opponent that can exact a KO on him. Pac needs to be removed from top 10 P4P opponent list with this grand cherry picking fake belt title set up. This cherry picking is now super extreme !! Pac has no business being gifted a Mayweather fight based on fighting feather fisted opponents.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
Rios isn't light hitting. Not a true welter or a great boxer either, but he can punch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Addicted to_boxingThat means three consecutive light hitting opponents after being KTFO in devastating fashion . Guess this is all smoke and mirrors , Pac and Arum no longer have the balls to fight an opponent that can exact a KO on him. Pac needs to be removed from top 10 P4P opponent list with this grand cherry picking fake belt title set up. This cherry picking is now super extreme !! Pac has no business being gifted a Mayweather fight based on fighting feather fisted opponents.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
He is not a power puncher , flat footed, unskilled, slow , defenseless and brainless ..... = Paquiaio PreyQuote:
Originally Posted by HulkRios isn't light hitting. Not a true welter or a great boxer either, but he can punch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Addicted to_boxingThat means three consecutive light hitting opponents after being KTFO in devastating fashion . Guess this is all smoke and mirrors , Pac and Arum no longer have the balls to fight an opponent that can exact a KO on him. Pac needs to be removed from top 10 P4P opponent list with this grand cherry picking fake belt title set up. This cherry picking is now super extreme !! Pac has no business being gifted a Mayweather fight based on fighting feather fisted opponents.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
Sad thing is this will definitely ppv.. Armum will not be putting his most familiar name. Pac could fight Butterbean and it will still be ppv. One thing that has left me baffled is when Floyd Senior made the comment that Floyd's would have no problem beating Pac at this point. Why run your mouth about such things if there remains 0 chance if it's happening. I would rather see Pac fight Prod only because Roach has been running his mouth again. I would hold of on my disgust hoping that we are do for a surprise over Pacs next fight. I'm one of those pactards always hoping for a great fight to be announced. Prod then Floyd, how's that for dreaming.
How is Prod a good match ? The guy is one dimensional and can not hang with boxers . Looking at Pacs last two fights he is not going to mix it up and will dominate and box the ears off Prod. Why no mention of the two younger Thurman or Porter ? Never in his career has Pac fought a really good undefeated young fighter in his prime !!Quote:
Originally Posted by walrus
Think this will be closer than most expect, but Manny gets the edge.
While Pac SHOULD win...at this stage of his career nothing is certain. He clearly isn't the same fighter he used to be. Algiergi is no Marquez. But he is a skilled fighter with good heart. Certainly better "big" names for Pac to fight. But i think some of you are overselling this version of Pac. He hasn't
"destroyed" anyone in quite a while. His speed and power have clearly diminished compared to years ago.
Pac has just beaten the 2nd best welterweight Tim Bradley and he should be fighting the number 1.
What is wrong with boxing?
Floyd is a pussy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Someone will say Pac is a pussy and we end up in a slanging match when in reality the promoters know we put up with 2nd rate fights and pay top doller prices.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maravilla2012Floyd is a pussy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
the reason I say it is before they both wanted the fight and blamed the other and now it seems just Pac wants the fight and Floyd just dismisses itQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterSomeone will say Pac is a pussy and we end up in a slanging match when in reality the promoters know we put up with 2nd rate fights and pay top doller prices.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maravilla2012Floyd is a pussy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
These two are still the best weltwerweights in the world and the fight should still be made. Every other fight is just a waste of time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maravilla2012the reason I say it is before they both wanted the fight and blamed the other and now it seems just Pac wants the fight and Floyd just dismisses itQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterSomeone will say Pac is a pussy and we end up in a slanging match when in reality the promoters know we put up with 2nd rate fights and pay top doller prices.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maravilla2012Floyd is a pussy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Exactly !!! Except Mayweather acts as is his own promoter and will not ever deal with Arum and allow Arum to receieve the lions share. So tired of both fan bases blaming each fighter of being afraid.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterSomeone will say Pac is a pussy and we end up in a slanging match when in reality the promoters know we put up with 2nd rate fights and pay top doller prices.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maravilla2012Floyd is a pussy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Why not Thurman or Porter ? No longer can Pac fans say that neither has earned the right. Insted we get Manny continuallly fight light hitting fighters moving up in weight and old retreads . Some things just never change .......Quote:
Originally Posted by zhubin
I am not disagreeing with your point. All i am saying is that even though Algiergi is not a threat on paper...at this stage of Pac's career, it's still by no means a sure win.Quote:
Originally Posted by Addicted to_boxingWhy not Thurman or Porter ? No longer can Pac fans say that neither has earned the right. Insted we get Manny continuallly fight light hitting fighters moving up in weight and old retreads . Some things just never change .......Quote:
Originally Posted by zhubin
I bet Algieri does better than rios did.
Pac says. But what does he do? He was Floyds mandatory and he immediately takes the one fight that would get him removed from being Floyds mandatory, a fight he said he didn't need right until he was named Floyds mandatory. Then, ready to become a FA where he would make twice as much money at least and have the option of fighting Floyd he signs an extension that will cost him 10s of millions of dollars.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maravilla2012the reason I say it is before they both wanted the fight and blamed the other and now it seems just Pac wants the fight and Floyd just dismisses itQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterSomeone will say Pac is a pussy and we end up in a slanging match when in reality the promoters know we put up with 2nd rate fights and pay top doller prices.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maravilla2012Floyd is a pussy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
The point, what people say is meaningless when it doesn't match their actions. Neither guy wants the fight no matter what either says. Until they sign to fight don't drink the Kool-Aid
A mexican shouldn't be calling people pussies.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maravilla2012Floyd is a pussy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
He never quit...unlike Chavez Sr.