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Well allegations Sir Cliff , is a pervo does this come as any surprise,!!! Mr clean the Peter Pan of
Pop, again a well respected public figure has allegations made against them.
I was told in the 80's by a landlady, about a incident in a public toilet's in Preston in the 60's
she worked for the courts, it was kept hush hush.!!!
We need to revive your Jimmy Saville thread.
I can't find that thread I have looked.!Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
The police acting on information off a BBC journalist, this does seam strange the poachers turn
gamekeepers, the fucking BBC and there record of employing perverts, well maybe they feel
the need to clean up there act.
Time will tell on theses allegations, How's about that then boy's and girls.
evidently happened at a Billy Graham Concert, at Bramhall Lane, Sheffield.
He has returned to the UK, to answer the accusations time well tell, if he faces any charges.!Quote:
Originally Posted by Scrap
I think the police should have gathered evidence before naming him. However, there are a lot of rumours about him with some suggesting he was on the Elm Street guest house names list as 'Kitty'. With the way things are going it seems like they want to take out singers and presenters, but still the obvious link to Royalty is being ignored and what happened to that parliamentary inquiry? It's almost as forgotten as that airplane inquiry. :) They want to roll out the past it old celebs and hope everyone else dies off in the meantime. Michael Parkinson came out today defending Richard, but considering he also apparently wrote flattering words about Rolf Harris in a book, he is likely not the best judge of character. It now makes me question any knighted person.
Trouble is the media can make or brake you, and remember they have to prove guilt, if
he has done it the same fate awaits him, as Mr Hall and Mr Harris.
.....uuuuh Cliff who?
He was our version of Elvis. Clean living Christian virgin who has had number 1 in every decade. Nearly as good as Barry Manilow.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
Yes mate your taste in music is wonderful.:vd:Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterHe was our version of Elvis. Clean living Christian virgin who has had number 1 in every decade. Nearly as good as Barry Manilow.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
You tube suddenly which was sang by Cliff and Olivia Newton John and tell me that song does not make you cry with emotion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bandoYes mate your taste in music is wonderful.:vd:Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterHe was our version of Elvis. Clean living Christian virgin who has had number 1 in every decade. Nearly as good as Barry Manilow.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
Yes I went for a look it was overwhelming, yes I was crying mate my emotions got the better ofQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterYou tube suddenly which was sang by Cliff and Olivia Newton John and tell me that song does not make you cry with emotion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bandoYes mate your taste in music is wonderful.:vd:Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterHe was our version of Elvis. Clean living Christian virgin who has had number 1 in every decade. Nearly as good as Barry Manilow.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
me.;D
I thought it was a seaside tragedy when i seen the headline, "young lad tossed off Cliff"Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bandoYes I went for a look it was overwhelming, yes I was crying mate my emotions got the better ofQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterYou tube suddenly which was sang by Cliff and Olivia Newton John and tell me that song does not make you cry with emotion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bandoYes mate your taste in music is wonderful.:vd:Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterHe was our version of Elvis. Clean living Christian virgin who has had number 1 in every decade. Nearly as good as Barry Manilow.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
me.;D
just goes to show,you never know what dangers are lurking in the shadows.
Apparently Police have removed several hard drives worth of media from his home in Berkshire. Lets hope it's kiddie porn and not unreleased music.
This story is starting to resurface again and i for one believe what many others do in that Jill Dando was "Bumped Off" because she was about to expose some very important people not just at the BBC but in government too.
No One has ever been convicted for this and come on for such a High Profile "Murder" case in this day and age ballistics/DNA etc would have had this sewn up by now if it was just a Murder case.
It all adds up if you ask me.
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Nothing would surprise me, and it would not be the first time the secret services had bumpedQuote:
Originally Posted by smashup
someone off,! imagine she was killed to shut her up, by theses people remember what happen
with Cyril Smith the detective was told who wad looking into the allegations, it is not in
the best interest of the Country to investigate Mr Smith, flies taken locked away, and guess
what LOST, best interest that a CUNT like him could carry on abusing little boys.
There is a lot of dark secrets in the BBC and Government, that people in high places want kept
hidden, you can only hid this shit away for so long before it becomes public.
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Originally Posted by Dia bandoNothing would surprise me, and it would not be the first time the secret services had bumpedQuote:
Originally Posted by smashup
someone off,! imagine she was killed to shut her up, by theses people remember what happen
with Cyril Smith the detective was told who wad looking into the allegations, it is not in
the best interest of the Country to investigate Mr Smith, flies taken locked away, and guess
what LOST, best interest that a CUNT like him could carry on abusing little boys.
There is a lot of dark secrets in the BBC and Government, that people in high places want kept
hidden, you can only hid this shit away for so long before it becomes public.
Fuck me of course it happens ;)
history is littered with people being bumped off by UK secret services, not saying they are the ones who did it but the BBC is a seriously powerful orginisation!
I agree about the Jill Dando murder and wasn't Cliff Richard the last person to talk to her on the phone? I'm sure I've read that somewhere.
I see Cliff gave a interview to the police, as they say time will tell, I feel it had been poorly dealt
with the press and media, no facts should be public knowledge till or if he has any charges to
answer to. I don't believe in trail by media, remember they have to prove his guilt, everybody
has a right to a fair trial weather we like it or not.!
I agree, Dia. If it cannot be backed up then they have practically destroyed his name. When you call someone a pervert, you should make sure there is enough to back it up. That's why the monarchy is such an easy target. They are filthy. To be fair to Cliff Richard, there appear to be some question marks about him, but nowhere near as many question marks around those in government and the monarchy. In some ways it is a bit pathetic to be rounding up dead DJ's, ancient artists, and zombie singers when there appears to be a lot more concrete evidence surrounding the elite. There are dead bodies being uncovered in Royal residences for goodness sake. If a body was found under your home, see what will happen! I doubt they find any bodies in/under Cliff's house.
A good few years back I had jury service the case was, a stepfather abusing his daughters,
you are shocked when you first here the case, but you have to have a open mind and listen
to the evidence, some people were upset to be on the case, and it was not a nice experience
for anybody involved.
What were the Judges findings?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bando
I did jury service a couple of months back. Doorman accused of raping a girl in the bogs of a club he was working at. No way could anyone have found him guilty, not unless you were obligated but it didnt stop some people still thinking he was a rapist who got away with it. You're supposed to remain impartial but it's human nature to judge people quickly.
I was the jury Forman at the beginning of the case, the Judge tell you that any doubt youQuote:
Originally Posted by AndreWhat were the Judges findings?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bando
have with the evidence, you must find a not guilty verdict.
After 3 day's we the jury were 10 not guilty and 2 others thinking that he did it, I had to point
out that if they had any doubt about the evidence, you can not give a guilty verdict, and thinking
is doubt, they did not like it but they agreed the evidence the crown gave to us raised doubts.
The judge points out to the jury , it is the crowns job to prove guilt, not for the plaintive to prove
his innocence.
This was a eye opening experience, for all on the jury 2 went away not happy, but doubt is doubt
and thinking is not something you can not hang some one for.
That sounds very familiar. We had 2 undecided and 1 guilty, the guy who thought the accused was guilty thought he was the bollocks, he didnt really get how you reach a verdict. When it comes down to it all feeling is taken out of it by the route to verdict, a simple set of questions, if at any point during the set of questions you have doubt thats game over, you dont have to like it but thast the way it is.
Again mate thinking I no what you mean, they could not get there head round it, doubt isQuote:
Originally Posted by Memphis
what thinking is, and your feeling don't come into it, as you no the judge tells you your
job, but some people ARE THICK, mate fucker some are.!!!!:vd:
It seems Cliff has had a few undesirable friends, I don't trust him no fucker is that nice,
remember Rolf came across as a nice guy, it's hard to no it's not as if pervo is tattooed on
there forehead. The BBC is a fucking disgrace that Fucking ER women and her child line,
not a wear of Savile being a Cunt, I don't believe it, horrible fucking women.
I wish Cliff would throw himself off a David Cameron