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... the shots from Maidana hurt Floyd. He wasn't himself after the fight. It wasn't just the fact that he was somber, but he actually showed the effects of being hit one or two times by Maidana.
Maidana has some scary power. If he cant take Maidana's power, then he certainly can't take Manny's power and accuracy- a power and accuracy superior to that of Maidana.
Watch the post fight interview if you don't understand what I am telling you. Bloody, with a dazed and shot look.
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Originally Posted by ykdadamaja
For Sure!! he had to have help to get back to dressing room after the fight, watch it again. he was hurt a few times, but his employee, the ref, gave him the time he needed each time. what a good friend.
End of the 3rd round he got hit hard on the chin and was shook, but other than that I did not see too many clean punches land on him.
Not that he landed a whole hell of a lot of clean shots himself.
A lot of posing, running, clinching and one shot at a time.
Only time he looked hurt was at end of the 3rd and we will never know how hurt he was as it was right on the bell. I think he's got a solid chin as long as he stays at 147 no body will stop him
That fight wont happen they both got their reasons to avoid.But Manny is more of an erratic fighter,he is all out and hits harder for sure, hits on the move and comes firing out of evasive angles too, he isnt what he used to be either and would have to try and finish a hard job fast,he wouldnt have the same skill to go the long road.I could not see Floyd falling into any fast traps off someone not setting one up over time.Quote:
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He definately looked worn out just like in their first fight, probably because of age.
If people complained about this last performance with all the clinching and pot shots, we'll be in for much of the same stuff in his next two fights, though I'm sure he can still outbox less awkward fighters with ease. It's just Maidana's (or any strong fighter's) rough play that seems to be too hard to handle at this stage.
Maidana was able to hustle floyd and hit him for the simple reason he has a fantastic chin.
Not sure PAC can rush in and not get countered , let us not forget PAC doesn't like slick counter punchers , and he is unlikely to rush in to take a shot to land a shot , like maidana did.
Let's make the fight and see what happens.
When you compare their faces after the fight it would appear Maidana was a clear winner. Floyd was marked up and looked his age. Good result considering the margin he won by but by his own standards it wasn't impressive. Caught by jabs hit regularly and was physically damaged after boxing on the backfoot all night. maidana came forward but wasn't a mark on him
Floyd could learn a thing or two from Hopkins on how not to get hit and evolve his style to suit his age. Two fights left for Floyd and he needs to carry on cherry picking cuz if he picks the wrong fight he could lose
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Originally Posted by GAME
Name the two most dangerous realistic opponents that could beat Floyd.
There was Canelo and that turned in to a master class by floyd.
To me, Floyd could bypass one of those two fights and just fight Manny and retire.
Really, no one else would or could do. No one else can give him a fight.
Khan may get one of these last two fights by default... that is all.
Don't get wrong I think Floyd's top dog still but the gap has closed and I'd give anyone below a chanceQuote:
Originally Posted by rossTwo fights.Quote:
Originally Posted by GAME
Name the two most dangerous realistic opponents that could beat Floyd.
There was Canelo and that turned in to a master class by floyd.
At 147
Pacquiao - past his best too but he's always been a threat to floyd
Khan- as much as I hate to say it khans fast hands and quick feet could cause floyd trouble and khans dodgy chin won't be a factor cuz floyd can't punch for shit
Garcia- better timing than maidana and always finds a way to win
Thurman - better schooled than maidana and faster
Bradley - could match floyd in afew areas these days
At 154
Lara- just as quick, but legs aren't as old as Floyd's and can match him for power
Cotto - since they first met Floyd's got worse and cottos got better so evens it out abit
Golovkin - floyd fought Oscar and Cotto at 154 so why not. He only made canelo drain cuz it was a risky fight
Floyd's realistic opponents, at Welter or Jr. Middle. Not in any particular order.
1. Manny Pacquiao. (the only fight real and casual fans want to see)
2. Timothy Bradley. (could be an interesting match up, seeing who's skill for skill... Floyd would win handily)
3. Amir Khan. (Khan is damaged goods, really. KO losses primarily. But, he was robbed by Peterson. And, even though he was robbed by Peterson, when you look at Khan's fights, he very rarely loses rounds. In fact, when you take the KO rounds and the Peterson fight out of the equation, Khan wins almost all of the rounds in his fights... convincingly.)
4. Kell Brook. (Brook has made a good case for him getting a good fight with Mayweather since his clear victory vs. Porter. Made Porter look like a wild swinging brawler. Good skill sets from Brook and it wouldn't be unlikely for a fight to be made... a long shot... but a fight could be made.)
5. Demetrius Andrade. (the longest shot on this list, by far. But, like Khan, a fight can and may be made by default. Everyone else either being busy or the numbers just may not add up to make it any better than fighting Andrade. If Floyd wants to unify the titles at Jr. Middle, he can go this route and do so with ease!)
Floyd may ultimately go the route of title unification for his last two fights. Carlos Molina and Demetrius Andrade are more than beatable. He may be able to beat both of them on the same night.
Could unification be on Floyd's mind as a coup-de-gras on his final exit from the sport?
They have to be big name money making fights which only means Khan and Pacquiao.
Floyd wins both. They may be close but not really competative, like Maidana.
Maidana landed a beautiful counter right when Floyd was throwing his own pull back counter right. It was a great punch and the only time I ever remember seeing Floyd get caught throwing that shot. Other than that, I didn't really see Maidana land any real hurting shots. He touched Floyd's chin and body for sure but like usually it was mostly shots that were grazing, partially blocked or Floyd was rolling with.
Goes to show you that with the little he handed, he hurt Mayweather.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
That punch did hurt Floyd, no doubt, and he was cautious in the next round. He was pretty much the same Floyd post fight, he's not nearly as cocky or dismissive of his opponents as he used to be, in my opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hulk
If Floyd was hurt as much as you guys are saying throughout the fight, are you going to give him any props for staying in there and pretty much stifling Maidana's attempts to get anything started.
When you say Floyd wasn't hitting Maidana with accurate and clean shots it makes me think we were watching different fights.
The thing you should be excited about is that Floyd was getting in some clean right hands and uppercuts with little effect on Maidana. Floyd also landed some good shots to the body.
I'm not a big Floyd fan, he was definitely holding too much, and I can see where people would say he was running, but if you want to be taken seriously you have to give credit to Floyd what he does in the ring. He always figures out a way to win.
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Originally Posted by beenKOedThat punch did hurt Floyd, no doubt, and he was cautious in the next round. He was pretty much the same Floyd post fight, he's not nearly as cocky or dismissive of his opponents as he used to be, in my opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hulk
If Floyd was hurt as much as you guys are saying throughout the fight, are you going to give him any props for staying in there and pretty much stifling Maidana's attempts to get anything started.
When you say Floyd wasn't hitting Maidana with accurate and clean shots it makes me think we were watching different fights.
The thing you should be excited about is that Floyd was getting in some clean right hands and uppercuts with little effect on Maidana. Floyd also landed some good shots to the body.
I'm not a big Floyd fan, he was definitely holding too much, and I can see where people would say he was running, but if you want to be taken seriously you have to give credit to Floyd what he does in the ring. He always figures out a way to win.
I believe my assessment was fair and I stand by it.
He rocked him at the end of round 3 for sure. Shame he couldn't do it with any consistency.Quote:
Originally Posted by ykdadamajaGoes to show you that with the little he handed, he hurt Mayweather.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
Floyd even lost a tooth on that shot:Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerHe rocked him at the end of round 3 for sure. Shame he couldn't do it with any consistency.Quote:
Originally Posted by ykdadamajaGoes to show you that with the little he handed, he hurt Mayweather.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1LZX5UkPfM
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Floyd had a fat lip and looked tired but it could be because Maidana weighed heavier at 154lb?
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Gatta be tired when you ran a marathon for the entire fight...Quote:
Originally Posted by Master