Westminster "does not represent the people"

Great video taken from The Artist Taxi Driver. The speech of the taxi driver is played in a supermarket and the people effectively blank the camera person except for a guy who laughs and another who takes pictures. In Hong Kong, we have mass resistance. All around the world people are rising up, but in the UK nobody in the supermarket world seems to be paying any attention to how they are being abused. There also appear to be few ethnic British people working in these places anymore. Another way of destroying a nation. Infiltrate it with foreigners and what are you then gonna do? Divided you now stand.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x87S4WXBTi8

I suppose my question is this. When a government as dictatorial and illegitimate as this is doing all of these things that it has no mandate to do, where is the resistance? Look at Hong Kong with tens of thousands out there doing their thing, even small scale Ferguson rose up, but where is this in the UK? They wake up for Gaza in a very friendly way, but where is the rage about Ian Duncan Smith, Osborne, fat Dave and the illegitimate Tory pervs/scroungers/traitors? I see the latest one is Brooks Newmark who got his knob out for some girl, but he still has his job. His real crime though is talking with terrorist factions in the Middle East. Nothing from the public. Then there is Ian Duncan Smith, a man so horrible that he now expects poor people to walk around with cards excluding the ability to purchase alcohol, but it's okay for him to claim on his napkins and various other things and has no qualifications! Or there is Osborne who seems to be able to have suspicious powder in a brothel along with many of the Houses of Parliament toilets, but if you are poor, you MUST not drink! Get in the workhouse you non-humans!

People should in unison stop working by this stage. The austerity is expanding and the debt is exponentially rising. What will it take to challenge a system that 'does not represent the people?'. What are they waiting for? Kind Mr Milliband who has said he will continue this system? He is of course is working for the same people as the illegitimate ones.

Why are people not rising up against a system that is so draconian and flat out wrong?

Edit: I forgot to go after fat Dave, who is clearly insane with his talk of people who question the narrative being as big a threat as terrorists. He is absolutely loopy and an obvious product of fast food, Eton and Thatcher. I see no sign of The Smiths in the man. Inventing Isis, then bombing Iraq just to support going after Syria. A million pounds a bomb! A million pounds! Privatising the NHS with no mandate! Refusing to credibly investigate government paedophilia! Not controlling immigration! Expanding slave labour work programmes! Property bubbles! Financial fraud! And don't think you get away with it purring little Queeny, you sign off on all of this. MELANIE SHAW in prison for revealing CHILD ABUSE! The mainstream won't talk about it. It goes to the top, Cameron. You deserve an uprising for your hatred of the people. And especially how so many of the young have been treated in care homes. It's sick.

Look, what a liar too about the whole EU tyranny and a referendum. There isn't one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHyY0Z6jpCI

What a hypocrite too. He's against drugs, but most Westminster toilets contain cocaine. Cameron is what is know as a bully and a bullshitter. Listen to him in this collection of interviews, towards the end he is borderline Forrest Gump.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7lCrGW9jvE

Would you want one of these people to represent you? Consider the child abuse that is being covered up today and this list of the past. Gags for 70 years plus at care centers today, then look at the list of criminal Tories of the past. These people are freaks and this is running the country and protecting perverts, attacking the abused, and assaulting everyone else. How many of todays lot do you think are being protected? Historically, we know a lot are up to no good, but they are locking up Melanie Shaw who was abused? I only add this as another example of Westminster that 'does not represent the people'.

Liars, Buggers and Thieves: Tory Criminals

Edit: Or to take a little piece of GB favourite news source. People have voted for someone like this? But look at the list above it is dozens and dozens of madmen.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/e...on/3911955.stm

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Originally Posted by Gandalf

Would you want one of these people to represent you? Consider the child abuse that is being covered up today and this list of the past. Gags for 70 years plus at care centers today, then look at the list of criminal Tories of the past. These people are freaks and this is running the country and protecting perverts, attacking the abused, and assaulting everyone else. How many of todays lot do you think are being protected? Historically, we know a lot are up to no good, but they are locking up Melanie Shaw who was abused? I only add this as another example of Westminster that 'does not represent the people'.

Liars, Buggers and Thieves: Tory Criminals

Edit: Or to take a little piece of GB favourite news source. People have voted for someone like this? But look at the list above it is dozens and dozens of madmen.

BBC NEWS | England | London | Ex-Tory official jailed for rape

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what an obscene bunch of twisted perverts. and the public floating along oblivious. i cant understand how a population doesnt get outraged and raise their voices by the millions. Tranquilizers in the food and drink perhaps?

There is something wrong. Maybe it is telling that I am so angry and yet so far away. I am free, I am not under any pretense or threat from these people and even if I was, I would tell them to shove their child abuse up their noses along with their powder. I am beyond their control and don't give a damn what they think. They are disgusting, stupid people and they do not represent the people.

Why do I care? It is because I am a patriot and I am appalled at the treatment of the British people. I will do this until I see British people treated fairly. It will be a lifelong struggle.

UKIP will take a lot of their votes. Liberals have no support for being the poodle of the Tories and Labour should win but Milliband is a wimp lettuce.

We cannot have Milliband as leader - he's a knobhead


Whoever is elected is elected. The end

Vote Boris

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We cannot have Milliband as leader - he's a knobhead


Whoever is elected is elected. The end

Vote Boris

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Although Miliband has a greater intellect than Cameron and Osborne combined.
But he can't eat a bacon sandwich properly, so fuck him.

That's how I like my politics. Forget intellect and principles just go for engaging personalities.

They are all in the same pot and you cannot trust any of them. The lobbyists control the temperature. None of those in the pot represent the people. They are traitors and the Queen of course signs off on the recipe. 'Oooh, war in Iraq, okay then. Fracking under the bricks of MY subjects? Of course!'. Why is that woman not in the Hague for even her crimes against the British people, let alone those against the world. A dangerous old hag. Terrible things happen when good people do nothing, she is clearly a terrible person.

The only option I would argue is to just stop paying taxes, local taxes, and the BBC fee. Yes, it will affect others, but a point has to be made. You don't subsidise Trident, war in Iraq, the banks, the BBC, the common purpose council etc. People need to unify and resist.

More brilliance from The Artist Taxi Driver....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lG6Rw0x_0M

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Originally Posted by Gandalf

They are all in the same pot and you cannot trust any of them. The lobbyists control the temperature. None of those in the pot represent the people. They are traitors and the Queen of course signs off on the recipe. 'Oooh, war in Iraq, okay then. Fracking under the bricks of MY subjects? Of course!'. Why is that woman not in the Hague for even her crimes against the British people, let alone those against the world. A dangerous old hag. Terrible things happen when good people do nothing, she is clearly a terrible person.

The only option I would argue is to just stop paying taxes, local taxes, and the BBC fee. Yes, it will affect others, but a point has to be made. You don't subsidise Trident, war in Iraq, the banks, the BBC, the common purpose council etc. People need to unify and resist.

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Can't we all just attack the Tories? A concerted attempt to permanently discredit them? Then we could take it from there.

You would think that would be the usual approach, just kick the party out ASAP and bring in the alternative My concern about that though is that the two main parties are now pretty much the same thing and in the event of an election stalemate, you are likely going to have UKIP acting in the Lib Dem role. Again, a process that is undemocratic. Labour has hung itself with its approach to Scotland, perpetuating welfare cuts, and voting for war. They had this opportunity to reject that system, but they haven't. I am a traditional Labour man, but the party is finished for me. It simply is not a party of Labour, it is a vehicle of corporations. With the way corporations are treating people and society, I don't think a moral person can vote for them. To think Milliband was once a student of the great Tony Benn. What a mouse Millibland is, what a sell out.

Greenbeanz suggestion of a Green vote is valid, but the problem is that they have no chance of making an impact for at least another decade if ever. That is where I think maybe people have to bite the bullet and either leave the country or if they stay, they have to become more hardcore. Being passive and voting every half a decade is a losing game, by stealth they will take away everything. So on that basis, if you don't give anything back then it is a start. Let them try and throw everyone in prison and see how that one works out. The problem is that people won't act in unison in a concerted effort to bring about change.

At the most basic level throw away the TV license and go underground. It is extreme, but why is only Westminster allowed to be extreme? 30 pounds a week to inflict common purpose and take away the rubbish? I pay 12 pounds local tax a year! The system is a massive wealth vacuum and people are skint. Meanwhile the Westminster toilets are laced with cocaine, they get massive pay rises, and they all claim on the expenses and rent out their extra properties for thousands. That is extreme! Zero percent interest rates is financial apartheid considering the poor go to Wonga. I don't think it is enough to just vote for another party as the parties don't control this system.

UKIP hasd some very valıd poınts. Beanz has saıd they espouse some rather far-rıght vıews, I am not famılıar wıth any of that but would be agaınst them ıf they do so. But Farage's speeches certaınly make a lot of sense to me.

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UKIP hasd some very valıd poınts. Beanz has saıd they espouse some rather far-rıght vıews, I am not famılıar wıth any of that but would be agaınst them ıf they do so. But Farage's speeches certaınly make a lot of sense to me.

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Same here. Farage does makes sense when he is talking and I find myself agreeing with him a lot. If the left is going to fail you, then it makes sense to see libertarianism as another model that could work. The problem is that I don't think Farage is Ron Paul and I struggle to see him being all that different to the Tories beyond getting out of Europe and cutting immigration, though they are valid reasons to vote UKIP considering the other parties won't even discuss these issues. It would be great if we could trust Farage, but seeing him urging the Scots reject freedom along with the other puppets and now Tories defecting to UKIP. Well, I just find that troubling. Also some of their members seem to be unhinged. On the BBC they had a UKIP spokesperson on and he was saying the most awful things. Farage having these kinds of people makes you cringe and worry. They will make promises but who ever keeps them? And once in what on earth will they do?

None of these parties seems to be vote worthy. The system seems to be damaged beyond repair.

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UKIP hasd some very valıd poınts. Beanz has saıd they espouse some rather far-rıght vıews, I am not famılıar wıth any of that but would be agaınst them ıf they do so. But Farage's speeches certaınly make a lot of sense to me.

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Yes mate Farage is a good speaker, but all UKIP are is EU hating Tory's there would privatise
everything under the sun, there out look is national pride,! I do believe something must be
done about immigration, far to many taking out of the pot, far to few putting in.
I would not vote UKIP, but many will remember the other party's thinking they were a Joke
2 tory MP's have defected to UKIP in the last week or so.
What Farage is saying is what people want to hear, he's a crafty git but behind the flag waving
I feel there is not much substance in UKIP, THE OLD SAYING BUYER BEWEAR.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnKsnkmQOQ0

This man should be Prime Minister. The Artist Taxi Driver is a good man.

UK needs a brand new fresh groundbreakıng ındependent

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UK needs a brand new fresh groundbreakıng ındependent

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Maybe it does people have lost faith in politicians, out of touch and very condescending bunch
what alltuntives are there none, we are stuck with what we have got.!

The trouble is, if you challenge them. You are going nowhere. The system is a farce and a sham. Good people don't do well in any public job. You have to be a money obsessed crook to get anywhere near a good job, and unfortunately, most don't think like that.

Down with them, go your own path. Don't tell them what you do. Westminster has chosen to represent the elite, so they don't represent you. Show that back in their faces. Make the system collapse.

In the long run, it will only help you.

We have to vote Labour, with the first past the post system, any other vote is wasted.

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We have to vote Labour, with the first past the post system, any other vote is wasted.

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Your right mate but Labour are losing there grass roots support, they WERE a working mans party
set up by the working class, but what I have seen they more now lean to the middle classes.
But they are the only alternative , to the Tories the other bunch are toilet paper as are the Tories,
hopefully this madness of privatising NHS will stop.:(

You guys need to become radical and have no respect for the system. They respect nothing about you.
Chomsky style tax refusal and so on. Join a group, make this unison. Don't pay your taxes, when Amazon pays little. There comes a time when you have to become a freedom fighter. This system represents few British people, if only they would wake up in unison. The system is illegitimate, domestically and overseas. Fat Dave runs a criminal organisation. When you resist it is because he broke all the laws.

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Originally Posted by Gandalf

You guys need to become radical and have no respect for the system. They respect nothing about you.
Chomsky style tax refusal and so on. Join a group, make this unison. Don't pay your taxes, when Amazon pays little. There comes a time when you have to become a freedom fighter. This system represents few British people, if only they would wake up in unison. The system is illegitimate, domestically and overseas. Fat Dave runs a criminal organisation. When you resist it is because he broke all the laws.

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Yes they are crooks. It is a sham. They turn the poor against the poorer to divert from the bigger issues.
It's easy to say resist, but by what means? If I didn't pay tax I would end up in jail. If 10 million didn't then prison couldn't happen but a concerted effort to change normally only comes after a single intolerable event rather than the drip drip effect seen in most western democracies.

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Originally Posted by Gandalf

You guys need to become radical and have no respect for the system. They respect nothing about you.
Chomsky style tax refusal and so on. Join a group, make this unison. Don't pay your taxes, when Amazon pays little. There comes a time when you have to become a freedom fighter. This system represents few British people, if only they would wake up in unison. The system is illegitimate, domestically and overseas. Fat Dave runs a criminal organisation. When you resist it is because he broke all the laws.

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With all respect you have no right to tell posters in the UK what they should do. On the one hand you suggest radical action from others and then dismiss a meaningful action in voting for a radical party like the Greens as having no chance of making an impact for 10 years or ever. That is not radical, that is defeatist, from small seeds big things grow, you know this. This is a party prepared to talk about putting privatised services back into public hands, and stop the onward march of unregulated corporations that are destroying Britain and democracy.

Can I ask how many marches have you been on ? Have you fought on the streets with far right groups in Britain and Italy ? Have you broadcast undercurrents videos from stages all around the UK or played anti-criminal justice benefit gigs and stood up for the rights of others less fortunate in real life ? I do not mean to boast about myself, or berate you, but it gets tiring to hear you urging others on as though we are all, and have always been, some kind of passive sheep.

Protesting and direct action is something everyone can do but you are young and have no children etc, So there is no reason why you can not devote yourself to it. Feet on the ground, not words from Korea. We are at the sharp end here, and the less well off, disabled , elderly or young (students) are bearing the brunt of these self serving Tory scumbags policies everyday.

You say you can not come back because you would have to survive on minimum wage but you have a masters or a pHd, do you not? You could earn good money in a secure job in the growing education sector. I see many great teachers every day at Universities across my city, but also some poor ones that make me think, If i had the time,energy and money I would do my masters or a PHd, to enable me to do their job. There is no reason for you not to come and do it right now. I can hook you up with direct action and protest groups across the country and you can live the dream and be a TRUE radical. My Dad is nearly 80 and he still goes and speaks at the Marxist conference every year. You are not yet 40, what do you say?

I like the idea of not paying taxes in masses or cause civil unrest but it is so cold outside and I just do not want to get off my comfy warm sofa.

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Originally Posted by Gandalf

You guys need to become radical and have no respect for the system. They respect nothing about you.
Chomsky style tax refusal and so on. Join a group, make this unison. Don't pay your taxes, when Amazon pays little. There comes a time when you have to become a freedom fighter. This system represents few British people, if only they would wake up in unison. The system is illegitimate, domestically and overseas. Fat Dave runs a criminal organisation. When you resist it is because he broke all the laws.

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With all respect you have no right to tell posters in the UK what they should do. On the one hand you suggest radical action from others and then dismiss a meaningful action in voting for a radical party like the Greens as having no chance of making an impact for 10 years or ever. That is not radical, that is defeatist, from small seeds big things grow, you know this. This is a party prepared to talk about putting privatised services back into public hands, and stop the onward march of unregulated corporations that are destroying Britain and democracy.

Can I ask how many marches have you been on ? Have you fought on the streets with far right groups in Britain and Italy ? Have you broadcast undercurrents videos from stages all around the UK or played anti-criminal justice benefit gigs and stood up for the rights of others less fortunate in real life ? I do not mean to boast about myself, or berate you, but it gets tiring to hear you urging others on as though we are all, and have always been, some kind of passive sheep.

Protesting and direct action is something everyone can do but you are young and have no children etc, So there is no reason why you can not devote yourself to it. Feet on the ground, not words from Korea. We are at the sharp end here, and the less well off, disabled , elderly or young (students) are bearing the brunt of these self serving Tory scumbags policies everyday.

You say you can not come back because you would have to survive on minimum wage but you have a masters or a pHd, do you not? You could earn good money in a secure job in the growing education sector. I see many great teachers every day at Universities across my city, but also some poor ones that make me think, If i had the time,energy and money I would do my masters or a PHd, to enable me to do their job. There is no reason for you not to come and do it right now. I can hook you up with direct action and protest groups across the country and you can live the dream and be a TRUE radical. My Dad is nearly 80 and he still goes and speaks at the Marxist conference every year. You are not yet 40, what do you say?

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I have the same right to speak out as anyone and simply appraise the situation as an informed man. It is defeatist to say the political system has failed, but don't shoot the messenger. I did not turn the parties to finance, introduce FPTP voting, nor sell the cocaine which lines the Westminster bogs. I encouraged the Scots to be free, I speak openly, and in the interests of fellow countrymen. At least I am trying to say something. It would be easier to turn off and ignore it.

As for the Greens, I think they are the best of the bunch, but another decade later, there will perhaps be nothing to regain. Do you not see the level of national debt with everything already practically privatised? A decade later the feudal system will be complete, society will be further muddied and divided, the Greens will not be allowed to do what they want, even if they were to become big. Parties do not control this system.

Every generation has allowed its children to get worse off. Now everyone graduates with thousands of debt, children are expensive, property unaffordable etc. When you are saddled with these pressures you cannot resist and the system knows that and encourages that. That's where I say you do not need that child unless you know you can improve its quality of life, instead your job is saying no. There are ways to resist, not copying others is a start. I don't have children partly because of the cost, but also because I don't think the world is going to be all that forgiving a few decades from now. It's evil how they are now preying on the young with these student debts and saying no benefits if you don't join the university debt process. I was innocent at 17 making these choices, it is predatory and costs so much more now.

I don't think you are a sheep, but a lot of people are and they are the problem. If the resistance had strength there would not be 9000 pounds a year student fees, or 10% a year rail hikes, or bankers continuing to lord over everyone. There needs to be more and it has to be radical. Otherwise, why will they ever listen? They don't. I just feel it has to become more hardcore now.

I want to do something and it sometimes drives me mad that I don't do enough. I cannot come home though and it is a dagger in my heart. We actually had an opportunity a few years ago when my wife was offered a 2 year contract at a company there for good money, but I baulked as I was just getting into University teaching, needed more experience, and worried about conditions there for me. If there was a time when I could have returned it was then, but now she has a different job and is settled and we have just bought a new home. The time to come home has probably passed. Now immigration rules also say I must live and work there for a year earning 18000 pounds before my wife is even considered for a Visa as she would have no work lined up. There are always to kick at me. I could probably find the work, but it would take time and then a years work and when she already has stable good work? Thus she has no motivation to go.

See, it's all complex and far more than just me wanting to shake things up. I have a life and family here too, but of course my fire is based there and it infuriates me to an unhealthy degree. I cannot stand what they are doing over there. Mind you, your words have made me think and will keep me thinking. I know I need to do more and feel that quite strongly.

I was replying to your points in a hurry as I was busy and responded to your post line by line. So the the first part is more defensive as I hadn't quite got to the end, but by the end there I was seeing your point of view much more. That's why it starts frosty and then chills out. I see the obvious contradictions that exist in having become heavily politicised, but being nowhere near the fray. It's like a camel moving to the arctic and in that environment stating to anyone who will listen that the elite camels need to be got rid of as their air conditioning units are destroying the ice caps. The polar bears gather around the camel and say 'Why do you keep telling us this day in day out? There is still plenty of ice here. Why don't you just hunt for seals, dye your hair white, and just forget about all that stuff? You are too uptight. Roll in the snow, you silly camel!'.