Westminster "does not represent the people"

[Mark TKO]

We cannot have Milliband as leader - he's a knobhead


Whoever is elected is elected. The end

Vote Boris

[ryanman]

We cannot have Milliband as leader - he's a knobhead


Whoever is elected is elected. The end

Vote Boris

Although Miliband has a greater intellect than Cameron and Osborne combined.
But he can't eat a bacon sandwich properly, so fuck him.

That's how I like my politics. Forget intellect and principles just go for engaging personalities.

[Gandalf]

They are all in the same pot and you cannot trust any of them. The lobbyists control the temperature. None of those in the pot represent the people. They are traitors and the Queen of course signs off on the recipe. 'Oooh, war in Iraq, okay then. Fracking under the bricks of MY subjects? Of course!'. Why is that woman not in the Hague for even her crimes against the British people, let alone those against the world. A dangerous old hag. Terrible things happen when good people do nothing, she is clearly a terrible person.

The only option I would argue is to just stop paying taxes, local taxes, and the BBC fee. Yes, it will affect others, but a point has to be made. You don't subsidise Trident, war in Iraq, the banks, the BBC, the common purpose council etc. People need to unify and resist.

[Gandalf]

More brilliance from The Artist Taxi Driver....

[ryanman]

They are all in the same pot and you cannot trust any of them. The lobbyists control the temperature. None of those in the pot represent the people. They are traitors and the Queen of course signs off on the recipe. 'Oooh, war in Iraq, okay then. Fracking under the bricks of MY subjects? Of course!'. Why is that woman not in the Hague for even her crimes against the British people, let alone those against the world. A dangerous old hag. Terrible things happen when good people do nothing, she is clearly a terrible person.

The only option I would argue is to just stop paying taxes, local taxes, and the BBC fee. Yes, it will affect others, but a point has to be made. You don't subsidise Trident, war in Iraq, the banks, the BBC, the common purpose council etc. People need to unify and resist.

Can't we all just attack the Tories? A concerted attempt to permanently discredit them? Then we could take it from there.

[Gandalf]

You would think that would be the usual approach, just kick the party out ASAP and bring in the alternative My concern about that though is that the two main parties are now pretty much the same thing and in the event of an election stalemate, you are likely going to have UKIP acting in the Lib Dem role. Again, a process that is undemocratic. Labour has hung itself with its approach to Scotland, perpetuating welfare cuts, and voting for war. They had this opportunity to reject that system, but they haven't. I am a traditional Labour man, but the party is finished for me. It simply is not a party of Labour, it is a vehicle of corporations. With the way corporations are treating people and society, I don't think a moral person can vote for them. To think Milliband was once a student of the great Tony Benn. What a mouse Millibland is, what a sell out.

Greenbeanz suggestion of a Green vote is valid, but the problem is that they have no chance of making an impact for at least another decade if ever. That is where I think maybe people have to bite the bullet and either leave the country or if they stay, they have to become more hardcore. Being passive and voting every half a decade is a losing game, by stealth they will take away everything. So on that basis, if you don't give anything back then it is a start. Let them try and throw everyone in prison and see how that one works out. The problem is that people won't act in unison in a concerted effort to bring about change.

At the most basic level throw away the TV license and go underground. It is extreme, but why is only Westminster allowed to be extreme? 30 pounds a week to inflict common purpose and take away the rubbish? I pay 12 pounds local tax a year! The system is a massive wealth vacuum and people are skint. Meanwhile the Westminster toilets are laced with cocaine, they get massive pay rises, and they all claim on the expenses and rent out their extra properties for thousands. That is extreme! Zero percent interest rates is financial apartheid considering the poor go to Wonga. I don't think it is enough to just vote for another party as the parties don't control this system.

[brocktonblockbust]

UKIP hasd some very valıd poınts. Beanz has saıd they espouse some rather far-rıght vıews, I am not famılıar wıth any of that but would be agaınst them ıf they do so. But Farage's speeches certaınly make a lot of sense to me.

[Gandalf]

UKIP hasd some very valıd poınts. Beanz has saıd they espouse some rather far-rıght vıews, I am not famılıar wıth any of that but would be agaınst them ıf they do so. But Farage's speeches certaınly make a lot of sense to me.

Same here. Farage does makes sense when he is talking and I find myself agreeing with him a lot. If the left is going to fail you, then it makes sense to see libertarianism as another model that could work. The problem is that I don't think Farage is Ron Paul and I struggle to see him being all that different to the Tories beyond getting out of Europe and cutting immigration, though they are valid reasons to vote UKIP considering the other parties won't even discuss these issues. It would be great if we could trust Farage, but seeing him urging the Scots reject freedom along with the other puppets and now Tories defecting to UKIP. Well, I just find that troubling. Also some of their members seem to be unhinged. On the BBC they had a UKIP spokesperson on and he was saying the most awful things. Farage having these kinds of people makes you cringe and worry. They will make promises but who ever keeps them? And once in what on earth will they do?

None of these parties seems to be vote worthy. The system seems to be damaged beyond repair.

[Dia bando]

UKIP hasd some very valıd poınts. Beanz has saıd they espouse some rather far-rıght vıews, I am not famılıar wıth any of that but would be agaınst them ıf they do so. But Farage's speeches certaınly make a lot of sense to me.

Yes mate Farage is a good speaker, but all UKIP are is EU hating Tory's there would privatise
everything under the sun, there out look is national pride,! I do believe something must be
done about immigration, far to many taking out of the pot, far to few putting in.
I would not vote UKIP, but many will remember the other party's thinking they were a Joke
2 tory MP's have defected to UKIP in the last week or so.
What Farage is saying is what people want to hear, he's a crafty git but behind the flag waving
I feel there is not much substance in UKIP, THE OLD SAYING BUYER BEWEAR.