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Scrap was right when he said that power starts in the feet.
Second thing he said was that hips move 6 degrees if I understood correctly?
Look carefully at the hips see that they don't torque violently to the contrary they don't move much at all since its KINITEC linking.http://www.break.com/video/anatomy-o...nockout-299369
I had problems uploading the new video just pasted the new video done by national geographic.
Cool video! I wonder how they make that!
Yes it is I'm glad that I found it! Remember Scrap's second principal that the lead foot acts as the break. Look closely again how the back leg moves forwards after the punch. The lead foot stops the body's weight from falling forward.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xwetie
Think you're not supposed to do that, if he duck that right punch, and go with a left hook to the body you be out of balance, With those chicken leg that up close you would push him out of the ring with a good lefty.Quote:
Originally Posted by BCBUDYes it is I'm glad that I found it! Remember Scrap's second principal that the lead foot acts as the break. Look closely again how the back leg moves forwards after the punch. The lead foot stops the body's weight from falling forward.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xwetie
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http://i.imgur.com/9koIbXx.png
It's goes back to his third principle " all or nothing " the best DEFENSE is a resounding blow.Quote:
Originally Posted by XwetieThink you're not supposed to do that, if he duck that right punch, and go with a left hook to the body you be out of balance, With those chicken leg that up close you would push him out of the ring with a good lefty.Quote:
Originally Posted by BCBUDYes it is I'm glad that I found it! Remember Scrap's second principal that the lead foot acts as the break. Look closely again how the back leg moves forwards after the punch. The lead foot stops the body's weight from falling forward.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xwetie
http://i.imgur.com/ecAF15g.png
http://i.imgur.com/9koIbXx.png
You lost me ehQuote:
Originally Posted by BCBUDIt's goes back to his third principle " all or nothing " the best DEFENSE is a resounding blow.Quote:
Originally Posted by XwetieThink you're not supposed to do that, if he duck that right punch, and go with a left hook to the body you be out of balance, With those chicken leg that up close you would push him out of the ring with a good lefty.Quote:
Originally Posted by BCBUDYes it is I'm glad that I found it! Remember Scrap's second principal that the lead foot acts as the break. Look closely again how the back leg moves forwards after the punch. The lead foot stops the body's weight from falling forward.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xwetie
http://i.imgur.com/ecAF15g.png
http://i.imgur.com/9koIbXx.png
[QUOTE=Xwetie;1275845]In many of his posts he states that when throwing a punch put all the mite that you can muster! Fourth principle that he writes about is the power of the toe, 99% of coaches don't allow the fighters to come up on the balls of their feet when throwing an upper cut. That being said the balls of the feet do produce a strong uppercut. Go back an read all his posts you'll be a better and hard puncher if you do.Quote:
Originally Posted by BCBUDIt's goes back to his third principle " all or nothing " the best DEFENSE is a resounding blow.Quote:
Originally Posted by XwetieThink you're not supposed to do that, if he duck that right punch, and go with a left hook to the body you be out of balance, With those chicken leg that up close you would push him out of the ring with a good lefty.Quote:
Originally Posted by BCBUDYes it is I'm glad that I found it! Remember Scrap's second principal that the lead foot acts as the break. Look closely again how the back leg moves forwards after the punch. The lead foot stops the body's weight from falling forward.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xwetie
http://i.imgur.com/ecAF15g.png
http://i.imgur.com/9koIbXx.png
Here is kosta tszu throwing that same punch at 0:25 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LknTfs6ESJc
Been having problems uploading videos today.
Huh? Hips don't move much? You're taking that number out of context.Quote:
Originally Posted by BCBUD
Kinetic linking is ensuring that all the kinetic energy being generated by your body is working harmoniously to deliver maximum power with minimum effort. By definition kinetic energy is the energy of MOTION, so I have no idea how you conclude that less movement of the hips is related to better kinetic linking.
I don't believe that's right. Scrap says the heels act as the break. Not the lead foot, but either of the heels.Quote:
Originally Posted by BCBUDYes it is I'm glad that I found it! Remember Scrap's second principal that the lead foot acts as the break. Look closely again how the back leg moves forwards after the punch. The lead foot stops the body's weight from falling forward.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xwetie
Also the way the lead leg is animated is wrong in that video. The knee is locked which is no good, too much leaning. The lead knee needs to bend too to keep the weight in the right place. Also way too much sideways leaning, whoever animated that make some pretty big mistakes.
I agree this might help worth reading its where the trouble starts Eye Dominance and Your BodyQuote:
Originally Posted by jmsI don't believe that's right. Scrap says the heels act as the break. Not the lead foot, but either of the heels.Quote:
Originally Posted by BCBUDYes it is I'm glad that I found it! Remember Scrap's second principal that the lead foot acts as the break. Look closely again how the back leg moves forwards after the punch. The lead foot stops the body's weight from falling forward.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xwetie
Also the way the lead leg is animated is wrong in that video. The knee is locked which is no good, too much leaning. The lead knee needs to bend too to keep the weight in the right place. Also way too much sideways leaning, whoever animated that make some pretty big mistakes.
But look at Ernie shavers I don't say this to be argumentative but rather to be observant. Still the vid at 1:07 watch as shavers rear foot drags forward after the rh.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=981lkwNDcVkQuote:
Originally Posted by jmsI don't believe that's right. Scrap says the heels act as the break. Not the lead foot, but either of the heels.Quote:
Originally Posted by BCBUDYes it is I'm glad that I found it! Remember Scrap's second principal that the lead foot acts as the break. Look closely again how the back leg moves forwards after the punch. The lead foot stops the body's weight from falling forward.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xwetie
Also the way the lead leg is animated is wrong in that video. The knee is locked which is no good, too much leaning. The lead knee needs to bend too to keep the weight in the right place. Also way too much sideways leaning, whoever animated that make some pretty big mistakes.
1:30 Tommy Hearns back foot drags forward after the RH.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HEXlSCuw5KA
Yes the lead foot is stopping the movement but that's not what scrap means when says the heels are the break. It has to do with the mechanics of generating power when you punch and where your weight needs to be on the foot.Quote:
Originally Posted by BCBUDBut look at Ernie shavers I don't say this to be argumentative but rather to be observant. Still the vid at 1:07 watch as shavers rear foot drags forward after the rh.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=981lkwNDcVkQuote:
Originally Posted by jmsI don't believe that's right. Scrap says the heels act as the break. Not the lead foot, but either of the heels.Quote:
Originally Posted by BCBUDYes it is I'm glad that I found it! Remember Scrap's second principal that the lead foot acts as the break. Look closely again how the back leg moves forwards after the punch. The lead foot stops the body's weight from falling forward.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xwetie
Also the way the lead leg is animated is wrong in that video. The knee is locked which is no good, too much leaning. The lead knee needs to bend too to keep the weight in the right place. Also way too much sideways leaning, whoever animated that make some pretty big mistakes.
1:30 Tommy Hearns back foot drags forward after the RH.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HEXlSCuw5KA
Edit: But it can't be just the foot when throwing a punch. The hip and knee also have to bend and absorb energy or you wouldn't be able to move forward with your legs underneath you.
But if the lead heel were to be the break shouldn't the knee be straight. Otherwise you'd crumble if the lead knee was straight I wonder?Quote:
Originally Posted by jmsYes the lead foot is stopping the movement but that's not what scrap means when says the heels are the break. It has to do with the mechanics of generating power when you punch and where your weight needs to be on the foot.Quote:
Originally Posted by BCBUDBut look at Ernie shavers I don't say this to be argumentative but rather to be observant. Still the vid at 1:07 watch as shavers rear foot drags forward after the rh.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=981lkwNDcVkQuote:
Originally Posted by jmsI don't believe that's right. Scrap says the heels act as the break. Not the lead foot, but either of the heels.Quote:
Originally Posted by BCBUDYes it is I'm glad that I found it! Remember Scrap's second principal that the lead foot acts as the break. Look closely again how the back leg moves forwards after the punch. The lead foot stops the body's weight from falling forward.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xwetie
Also the way the lead leg is animated is wrong in that video. The knee is locked which is no good, too much leaning. The lead knee needs to bend too to keep the weight in the right place. Also way too much sideways leaning, whoever animated that make some pretty big mistakes.
1:30 Tommy Hearns back foot drags forward after the RH.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HEXlSCuw5KA
Edit: But it can't be just the foot when throwing a punch. The hip and knee also have to bend and absorb energy or you wouldn't be able to move forward with your legs underneath you.
Please don't start with national geographic conspiracies their at least a hundred years old, with all their money they can afford to make a video. I'll be up all night pondering as to why national geographic was lazy and callous. National geographic says that this is the most powerful punch, what we need to solve for is. Is that punch rotational or horizontal?Quote:
Originally Posted by jmsI don't believe that's right. Scrap says the heels act as the break. Not the lead foot, but either of the heels.Quote:
Originally Posted by BCBUDYes it is I'm glad that I found it! Remember Scrap's second principal that the lead foot acts as the break. Look closely again how the back leg moves forwards after the punch. The lead foot stops the body's weight from falling forward.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xwetie
Also the way the lead leg is animated is wrong in that video. The knee is locked which is no good, too much leaning. The lead knee needs to bend too to keep the weight in the right place. Also way too much sideways leaning, whoever animated that make some pretty big mistakes.
Another powerful heavyweight dragging his rear foot forward after the RH. Still the clip at 3:28 Jack Dempsey https://m.youtube.com/watch?sns=fb&v=ENiJs6_2P2A
Sam Langford dragging his rear leg forward after the RH 3:00 these fit into the pattern that national geographic has outlined for us, by telling that it's a whip action that most powerful.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JUdoGBkeqWQ
What are you on about? Doing a bad job doesn't imply a conspiracy. Isn't that clip from that sport science show anyway? It's notorious for shoddy science and outrageous comparisons (this guy hits as hard as a freight train traveling downhill and 300 miles an hour, and produces enough power to run your house!!!). The animation of the lead leg and the extreme leaning to the left is straight up wrong, that's like day 1 how to throw a cross stuff. Any decent coach would fix that immediately, and even the guy demonstrating wasn't punching like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by BCBUDPlease don't start with national geographic conspiracies their at least a hundred years old, with all their money they can afford to make a video. I'll be up all night pondering as to why national geographic was lazy and callous. National geographic says that this is the most powerful punch, what we need to solve for is. Is that punch rotational or horizontal?Quote:
Originally Posted by jmsI don't believe that's right. Scrap says the heels act as the break. Not the lead foot, but either of the heels.Quote:
Originally Posted by BCBUDYes it is I'm glad that I found it! Remember Scrap's second principal that the lead foot acts as the break. Look closely again how the back leg moves forwards after the punch. The lead foot stops the body's weight from falling forward.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xwetie
Also the way the lead leg is animated is wrong in that video. The knee is locked which is no good, too much leaning. The lead knee needs to bend too to keep the weight in the right place. Also way too much sideways leaning, whoever animated that make some pretty big mistakes.
There are several components to the trajectory of the punch.
Yes a lot of hard hitters step their back foot after a big overhand, but their hips are rotating too. I think you're very confused about what's going on here.Quote:
Originally Posted by BCBUD
Think He is, but young and polite. Heel is the bio mechanical break for movement. which means to move you have to lift the heel, otherwise you are not going anywhere. This is my gripe as regards weights, its all done on the heel different reflex, but resistance traing isnt, but thats another subject, but then its not. ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by jmsYes a lot of hard hitters step their back foot after a big overhand, but their hips are rotating too. I think you're very confused about what's going on here.Quote:
Originally Posted by BCBUD
Plus you dont drag the back foot you move it.
Scrap I'm totally lost one coach punches like you the head coach makes me do what he calls two-legged punching where I kid you not both feet are flat on the floor minimal hip rotation so that rear leg does move forward that is how he teaches to us throw the RH. Why because he thinks that by rotating the hips its a weak punch and can be vulnerable to a counter to bad you weren't in Canada I would change so fast to your gym I'm crying as I write btw the head coach thinks your pure bollucks or Bullshit after I showed him your vids on YouTube.The provincial coach Silvio hates that punch and so does the technical coach both preferring your style, but I can't do anything because of the club coach. Please explain how do I tell the head coach that it's a good thing to lift up the back heel when punching?Quote:
Originally Posted by Scrap
What lifts the back foot is the knee bending, stops you leaning.Quote:
Originally Posted by BCBUDScrap I'm totally lost one coach punches like you the head coach makes me do what he calls two-legged punching where I kid you not both feet are flat on the floor minimal hip rotation so that rear leg does move forward that is how he teaches to us throw the RH. Why because he thinks that by rotating the hips its a weak punch and can be vulnerable to a counter to bad you weren't in Canada I would change so fast to your gym I'm crying as I write btw the head coach thinks your pure bollucks or Bullshit after I showed him your vids on YouTube.The provincial coach Silvio hates that punch and so does the technical coach both preferring your style, but I can't do anything because of the club coach. Please explain how do I tell the head coach that it's a good thing to lift up the back heel when punching?Quote:
Originally Posted by Scrap