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Was Scrap right? AbouT the push off VS the twist to gEt the hips moving?
Heres the push down/ push off 1st method
http://stream1.gifsoup.com/webroot/a...s/159589_o.gif
Heres foot twist 2nd method
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmAFFvdGc_o
1) Are they actually the same thing?
2) Are they 2 different methods that both achieve the same thing?
3) Or is it just a pedantic argument that amounts to a grey area between the first two answers?#
I ask because I don't push off first I twist my foot 1st and I drive with my legs after. So I am using what I call the foot twist method.
Maybe im doing it sub optimally?
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re: Was Scrap right? AbouT the push off VS the twist to gEt the hips moving?
Also the way I see it the push off method where you push down or off makes it more difficult to get full leg drive once the hips start rotating.
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Also the way I see it the push off method where you push down or off makes it more difficult to get full leg drive once the hips start rotating.
Myself I prefer the joe Frazier push/down method because it allows me to get underneath my opponents punches.
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Also the way I see it the push off method where you push down or off makes it more difficult to get full leg drive once the hips start rotating.
Myself I prefer the joe Frazier push/down method because it allows me to get underneath my opponents punches.
I use both at the same time.
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Heres the push down/ push off 1st method
http://stream1.gifsoup.com/webroot/a...s/159589_o.gif
Heres foot twist 1st method
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmAFFvdGc_o
1) Are they actually the same thing?
2) Are they 2 different methods that both achieve the same thing?
3) Or is it just a pedantic argument that amounts to a grey area between the first two answers?#
I ask because I don't push off first I twist my foot 1st and I drive with my legs after. So I am using what I call the foot twist method.
Maybe im doing it sub optimally?
Yes, that's suboptimal. Both are the same when done correctly. If you're only doing one or the other, you're doing it wrong. Your first example, his hips are still turning fully event though his feet are moving. Your second example, he's pushing into the ground to move his weight and exaggerating the turn of the foot for the demonstration.
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Re: Was Scrap right? AbouT the push off VS the twist to gEt the hips moving?
Movement starts at the hips, thats all movement, in sport.
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Re: Was Scrap right? AbouT the push off VS the twist to gEt the hips moving?
On a reverse pivot your weight will not transfer through!fact... The movement must be linear then rotation! https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6jhuvTmzSDM
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He isnt talking about, the same thing as i am. Hips govern movement, because of the coxxys your centre of gravity, balance, posture the position of the head is controled by it.
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He isnt talking about, the same thing as i am. Hips govern movement, because of the coxxys your centre of gravity, balance, posture the position of the head is controled by it.
However you have to move your lead foot forward and pivot on the back foot to transfer your weight through?how else would it be any different?:confused: even if his ear is in line with his coccyx the moment that he puts his foot forward his ear would be in front of his coccyx so the movement is the same as what he is talking about correct?
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Scrap
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BCBUD
He isnt talking about, the same thing as i am. Hips govern movement, because of the coxxys your centre of gravity, balance, posture the position of the head is controled by it.
However you have to move your lead foot forward and pivot on the back foot to transfer your weight through?how else would it be any different?:confused: even if his ear is in line with his coccyx the moment that he puts his foot forward his ear would be in front of his coccyx so the movement is the same as what he is talking about correct?
No its not, head going forward stops direction of power, watch a top sprinter, when they reach for the line they lose drive, half the energy goes through the front foot
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Scrap
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BCBUD
He isnt talking about, the same thing as i am. Hips govern movement, because of the coxxys your centre of gravity, balance, posture the position of the head is controled by it.
However you have to move your lead foot forward and pivot on the back foot to transfer your weight through?how else would it be any different?:confused: even if his ear is in line with his coccyx the moment that he puts his foot forward his ear would be in front of his coccyx so the movement is the same as what he is talking about correct?
No its not, head going forward stops direction of power, watch a top sprinter, when they reach for the line they lose drive, half the energy goes through the front foot
If you don't use horizontal placement then how would you transfer your weight through?without Horizontal placement you wouldn't be able to load up and you wouldn't have any extension and follow through.
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Scrap
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BCBUD
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Scrap
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BCBUD
He isnt talking about, the same thing as i am. Hips govern movement, because of the coxxys your centre of gravity, balance, posture the position of the head is controled by it.
However you have to move your lead foot forward and pivot on the back foot to transfer your weight through?how else would it be any different?:confused: even if his ear is in line with his coccyx the moment that he puts his foot forward his ear would be in front of his coccyx so the movement is the same as what he is talking about correct?
No its not, head going forward stops direction of power, watch a top sprinter, when they reach for the line they lose drive, half the energy goes through the front foot
If you don't use horizontal placement then how would you transfer your weight through?without Horizontal placement you wouldn't be able to load up and you wouldn't have any extension and follow through.
Extension of what.
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BCBUD
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Scrap
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BCBUD
He isnt talking about, the same thing as i am. Hips govern movement, because of the coxxys your centre of gravity, balance, posture the position of the head is controled by it.
However you have to move your lead foot forward and pivot on the back foot to transfer your weight through?how else would it be any different?:confused: even if his ear is in line with his coccyx the moment that he puts his foot forward his ear would be in front of his coccyx so the movement is the same as what he is talking about correct?
No its not, head going forward stops direction of power, watch a top sprinter, when they reach for the line they lose drive, half the energy goes through the front foot
If you don't use horizontal placement then how would you transfer your weight through?without Horizontal placement you wouldn't be able to load up and you wouldn't have any extension and follow through.
Extension of what.
Full extension of the hips and shoulders, also if you don't use horizontal placement and do not pivot on the rear foot then the punch will go over your opponents head,if you push up on the back rear heal without horizontal placement then you'll be caught reaching in after you punch.
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Scrap
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BCBUD
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Scrap
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BCBUD
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Scrap
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BCBUD
He isnt talking about, the same thing as i am. Hips govern movement, because of the coxxys your centre of gravity, balance, posture the position of the head is controled by it.
However you have to move your lead foot forward and pivot on the back foot to transfer your weight through?how else would it be any different?:confused: even if his ear is in line with his coccyx the moment that he puts his foot forward his ear would be in front of his coccyx so the movement is the same as what he is talking about correct?
No its not, head going forward stops direction of power, watch a top sprinter, when they reach for the line they lose drive, half the energy goes through the front foot
If you don't use horizontal placement then how would you transfer your weight through?without Horizontal placement you wouldn't be able to load up and you wouldn't have any extension and follow through.
Extension of what.
Full extension of the hips and shoulders, also if you don't use horizontal placement and do not pivot on the rear foot then the punch will go over your opponents head,if you push up on the back rear heal without horizontal placement then you'll be caught reaching in after you punch.
I know that, thats what im trying to explain, i give up ;D.
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Scrap
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BCBUD
He isnt talking about, the same thing as i am. Hips govern movement, because of the coxxys your centre of gravity, balance, posture the position of the head is controled by it.
However you have to move your lead foot forward and pivot on the back foot to transfer your weight through?how else would it be any different?:confused: even if his ear is in line with his coccyx the moment that he puts his foot forward his ear would be in front of his coccyx so the movement is the same as what he is talking about correct?
No its not, head going forward stops direction of power, watch a top sprinter, when they reach for the line they lose drive, half the energy goes through the front foot
If you don't use horizontal placement then how would you transfer your weight through?without Horizontal placement you wouldn't be able to load up and you wouldn't have any extension and follow through.
Extension of what.
Full extension of the hips and shoulders, also if you don't use horizontal placement and do not pivot on the rear foot then the punch will go over your opponents head,if you push up on the back rear heal without horizontal placement then you'll be caught reaching in after you punch.
I know that, thats what im trying to explain, i give up ;D.
Right! But by putting the front foot forward or horizontal placement wouldn't the ear be in front of the Coccyx?yes originally the two were parallel had being the ear and coccyx...
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Scrap
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Scrap
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BCBUD
He isnt talking about, the same thing as i am. Hips govern movement, because of the coxxys your centre of gravity, balance, posture the position of the head is controled by it.
However you have to move your lead foot forward and pivot on the back foot to transfer your weight through?how else would it be any different?:confused: even if his ear is in line with his coccyx the moment that he puts his foot forward his ear would be in front of his coccyx so the movement is the same as what he is talking about correct?
No its not, head going forward stops direction of power, watch a top sprinter, when they reach for the line they lose drive, half the energy goes through the front foot
If you don't use horizontal placement then how would you transfer your weight through?without Horizontal placement you wouldn't be able to load up and you wouldn't have any extension and follow through.
Extension of what.
Full extension of the hips and shoulders, also if you don't use horizontal placement and do not pivot on the rear foot then the punch will go over your opponents head,if you push up on the back rear heal without horizontal placement then you'll be caught reaching in after you punch.
I honestly don't think you even bother reading what people are saying half the time, or you don't understand it at all. You're in your own world man.
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Scrap
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BCBUD
He isnt talking about, the same thing as i am. Hips govern movement, because of the coxxys your centre of gravity, balance, posture the position of the head is controled by it.
However you have to move your lead foot forward and pivot on the back foot to transfer your weight through?how else would it be any different?:confused: even if his ear is in line with his coccyx the moment that he puts his foot forward his ear would be in front of his coccyx so the movement is the same as what he is talking about correct?
No its not, head going forward stops direction of power, watch a top sprinter, when they reach for the line they lose drive, half the energy goes through the front foot
If you don't use horizontal placement then how would you transfer your weight through?without Horizontal placement you wouldn't be able to load up and you wouldn't have any extension and follow through.
Extension of what.
Full extension of the hips and shoulders, also if you don't use horizontal placement and do not pivot on the rear foot then the punch will go over your opponents head,if you push up on the back rear heal without horizontal placement then you'll be caught reaching in after you punch.
I honestly don't think you even bother reading what people are saying half the time, or you don't understand it at all. You're in your own world man.
I do know what I talking what about you? What is horizontal placement?
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Scrap
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BCBUD
He isnt talking about, the same thing as i am. Hips govern movement, because of the coxxys your centre of gravity, balance, posture the position of the head is controled by it.
However you have to move your lead foot forward and pivot on the back foot to transfer your weight through?how else would it be any different?:confused: even if his ear is in line with his coccyx the moment that he puts his foot forward his ear would be in front of his coccyx so the movement is the same as what he is talking about correct?
No its not, head going forward stops direction of power, watch a top sprinter, when they reach for the line they lose drive, half the energy goes through the front foot
If you don't use horizontal placement then how would you transfer your weight through?without Horizontal placement you wouldn't be able to load up and you wouldn't have any extension and follow through.
Extension of what.
Full extension of the hips and shoulders, also if you don't use horizontal placement and do not pivot on the rear foot then the punch will go over your opponents head,if you push up on the back rear heal without horizontal placement then you'll be caught reaching in after you punch.
I honestly don't think you even bother reading what people are saying half the time, or you don't understand it at all. You're in your own world man.
I do know what I talking what about you? What is horizontal placement?
No, I have literally no idea what you're talking about. Please enlighten me.
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BCBUD
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jms
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BCBUD
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Scrap
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BCBUD
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Scrap
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BCBUD
He isnt talking about, the same thing as i am. Hips govern movement, because of the coxxys your centre of gravity, balance, posture the position of the head is controled by it.
However you have to move your lead foot forward and pivot on the back foot to transfer your weight through?how else would it be any different?:confused: even if his ear is in line with his coccyx the moment that he puts his foot forward his ear would be in front of his coccyx so the movement is the same as what he is talking about correct?
No its not, head going forward stops direction of power, watch a top sprinter, when they reach for the line they lose drive, half the energy goes through the front foot
If you don't use horizontal placement then how would you transfer your weight through?without Horizontal placement you wouldn't be able to load up and you wouldn't have any extension and follow through.
Extension of what.
Full extension of the hips and shoulders, also if you don't use horizontal placement and do not pivot on the rear foot then the punch will go over your opponents head,if you push up on the back rear heal without horizontal placement then you'll be caught reaching in after you punch.
I honestly don't think you even bother reading what people are saying half the time, or you don't understand it at all. You're in your own world man.
I do know what I talking what about you? What is horizontal placement?
No, I have literally no idea what you're talking about. Please enlighten me.
Horizontal placement is anchoring your weight on the front foot by stepping forward 2-6 inches then using rotation. The rear heel kicks out this allows the hips to transfer the weight through. This movement allows the RH to move back in a J position for loading. That's the beauty of the horizontal placement.
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Scrap
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BCBUD
He isnt talking about, the same thing as i am. Hips govern movement, because of the coxxys your centre of gravity, balance, posture the position of the head is controled by it.
However you have to move your lead foot forward and pivot on the back foot to transfer your weight through?how else would it be any different?:confused: even if his ear is in line with his coccyx the moment that he puts his foot forward his ear would be in front of his coccyx so the movement is the same as what he is talking about correct?
No its not, head going forward stops direction of power, watch a top sprinter, when they reach for the line they lose drive, half the energy goes through the front foot
If you don't use horizontal placement then how would you transfer your weight through?without Horizontal placement you wouldn't be able to load up and you wouldn't have any extension and follow through.
Extension of what.
Full extension of the hips and shoulders, also if you don't use horizontal placement and do not pivot on the rear foot then the punch will go over your opponents head,if you push up on the back rear heal without horizontal placement then you'll be caught reaching in after you punch.
I honestly don't think you even bother reading what people are saying half the time, or you don't understand it at all. You're in your own world man.
I do know what I talking what about you? What is horizontal placement?
No, I have literally no idea what you're talking about. Please enlighten me.
Horizontal placement is anchoring your weight on the front foot by stepping forward 2-6 inches then using rotation. The rear heel kicks out this allows the hips to transfer the weight through. This movement allows the RH to move back in a J position for loading. That's the beauty of the horizontal placement.
I know the move but Ive never heard it called horizontal placement.
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jms
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BCBUD
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Scrap
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Scrap
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BCBUD
He isnt talking about, the same thing as i am. Hips govern movement, because of the coxxys your centre of gravity, balance, posture the position of the head is controled by it.
However you have to move your lead foot forward and pivot on the back foot to transfer your weight through?how else would it be any different?:confused: even if his ear is in line with his coccyx the moment that he puts his foot forward his ear would be in front of his coccyx so the movement is the same as what he is talking about correct?
No its not, head going forward stops direction of power, watch a top sprinter, when they reach for the line they lose drive, half the energy goes through the front foot
If you don't use horizontal placement then how would you transfer your weight through?without Horizontal placement you wouldn't be able to load up and you wouldn't have any extension and follow through.
Extension of what.
Full extension of the hips and shoulders, also if you don't use horizontal placement and do not pivot on the rear foot then the punch will go over your opponents head,if you push up on the back rear heal without horizontal placement then you'll be caught reaching in after you punch.
I honestly don't think you even bother reading what people are saying half the time, or you don't understand it at all. You're in your own world man.
I do know what I talking what about you? What is horizontal placement?
No, I have literally no idea what you're talking about. Please enlighten me.
Horizontal placement is anchoring your weight on the front foot by stepping forward 2-6 inches then using rotation. The rear heel kicks out this allows the hips to transfer the weight through. This movement allows the RH to move back in a J position for loading. That's the beauty of the horizontal placement.
I know the move but Ive never heard it called horizontal placement.
For those wondering what is the J movement this when your arm/hand comes backwards naturally resting on the chin.
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Wheres the chin in all this.
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Wheres the chin in all this.
It's perpendicular to the chest and shoulders!
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Wheres the chin in all this.
It's perpendicular to the chest and shoulders!
where are the in relation to the floor, the thing that moves you.
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Wheres the chin in all this.
It's perpendicular to the chest and shoulders!
where are the in relation to the floor, the thing that moves you.
Answer must be the rear heel!?
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BCBUD you are talking about punching in the sense of a push/falling to achieve weight transfer, pulling the punch to where it is going is how scrap is saying you should punch.
When you can pull a punch into its target using good biomechanics and sound bone allignment you have found a way to punch harder and with more control.
You dont have to take a step to transfer weight onto a leg just bend the knee that u want the weight to be on? Job done. Weight transfered, and your still of a sound gait to move in any direction if needs be.
You also dont want to do exagerated weight transfers while punching because you usually land with the weight on the heel which is bad for mobility aswell as killing some power in ur shots.
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BCBUD you are talking about punching in the sense of a push/falling to achieve weight transfer, pulling the punch to where it is going is how scrap is saying you should punch.
When you can pull a punch into its target using good biomechanics and sound bone allignment you have found a way to punch harder and with more control.
You dont have to take a step to transfer weight onto a leg just bend the knee that u want the weight to be on? Job done. Weight transfered, and your still of a sound gait to move in any direction if needs be.
You also dont want to do exagerated weight transfers while punching because you usually land with the weight on the heel which is bad for mobility aswell as killing some power in ur shots.
Which is why my trainer wants my weight on the front foot instead of the back:o it all makes sense. Thanx for sharing I couldn't figure out why he wanted my weight on the front foot.
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BCBUD you are talking about punching in the sense of a push/falling to achieve weight transfer, pulling the punch to where it is going is how scrap is saying you should punch.
When you can pull a punch into its target using good biomechanics and sound bone allignment you have found a way to punch harder and with more control.
You dont have to take a step to transfer weight onto a leg just bend the knee that u want the weight to be on? Job done. Weight transfered, and your still of a sound gait to move in any direction if needs be.
You also dont want to do exagerated weight transfers while punching because you usually land with the weight on the heel which is bad for mobility aswell as killing some power in ur shots.
Which is why my trainer wants my weight on the front foot instead of the back:o it all makes sense. Thanx for sharing I couldn't figure out why he wanted my weight on the front foot.
Nothing he said implies that you should have the weight on the front foot.
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BCBUD you are talking about punching in the sense of a push/falling to achieve weight transfer, pulling the punch to where it is going is how scrap is saying you should punch.
When you can pull a punch into its target using good biomechanics and sound bone allignment you have found a way to punch harder and with more control.
You dont have to take a step to transfer weight onto a leg just bend the knee that u want the weight to be on? Job done. Weight transfered, and your still of a sound gait to move in any direction if needs be.
You also dont want to do exagerated weight transfers while punching because you usually land with the weight on the heel which is bad for mobility aswell as killing some power in ur shots.
Which is why my trainer wants my weight on the front foot instead of the back:o it all makes sense. Thanx for sharing I couldn't figure out why he wanted my weight on the front foot.
Nothing he said implies that you should have the weight on the front foot.
No he didn't say to place your weight over the front foot. What he did say was to bend the knee for where you want the transfer to go. I wrote that is why my trainer wants my weight over the front leg because that is the direction that my trainer wants transfer to go.
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He isnt talking about, the same thing as i am. Hips govern movement, because of the coxxys your centre of gravity, balance, posture the position of the head is controled by it.
However you have to move your lead foot forward and pivot on the back foot to transfer your weight through?how else would it be any different?:confused: even if his ear is in line with his coccyx the moment that he puts his foot forward his ear would be in front of his coccyx so the movement is the same as what he is talking about correct?
No its not, head going forward stops direction of power, watch a top sprinter, when they reach for the line they lose drive, half the energy goes through the front foot
If you don't use horizontal placement then how would you transfer your weight through?without Horizontal placement you wouldn't be able to load up and you wouldn't have any extension and follow through.
Extension of what.
Full extension of the hips and shoulders, also if you don't use horizontal placement and do not pivot on the rear foot then the punch will go over your opponents head,if you push up on the back rear heal without horizontal placement then you'll be caught reaching in after you punch.
I honestly don't think you even bother reading what people are saying half the time, or you don't understand it at all. You're in your own world man.
I do know what I talking what about you? What is horizontal placement?
No, I have literally no idea what you're talking about. Please enlighten me.
Horizontal placement is anchoring your weight on the front foot by stepping forward 2-6 inches then using rotation. The rear heel kicks out this allows the hips to transfer the weight through. This movement allows the RH to move back in a J position for loading. That's the beauty of the horizontal placement.
I know the move but Ive never heard it called horizontal placement.
For those wondering what is the J movement this when your arm/hand comes backwards naturally resting on the chin.
Are you guys building a fucking pyramid or something? Tutankhamun will be rolling around in his grave, laughing out loud.
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Re: Was Scrap right? AbouT the push off VS the twist to gEt the hips moving?
We dont listen to our Skin as we should, King Tut unfortunately cant do that, we can but dont ;D.
