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Russell Brand: Hero or Zero?
During my prolonged period in exile for inciting the wrath of the Zionist empire, I have found myself enjoying Russell Brand. Brand is a man that has some people foaming at the mouth with hatred, but it is something I find hard to place. Is it because he is an addict that likes to fuck? Isn't any man flawed? What sets Brand apart for me though is that he has taken the time to read his Chomsky, to get involved in local issues, to show that he cares.
Russell Brand is really just one of us and he had no need to ever get involved with local concerns or develop a politics of reason. I watched him on Question Time and was almost in tears at the way he restrained himself with a premeditated audience and yet another media agenda to try and belittle him. However, he maintained his cool and he expressed his points with an integrity found nowhere else on the panel. He made Farage look like a dinosaur.
Sure, he resorted to insults and looked at Farage as though he is evil, but Farage was very telling in going nowhere near the City of London (centre of all global evil) which only received praise. Then the clap trap from others about the NHS and privatisation. It effectively has been privatised with PFI initiatives and new contracts handed out daily. The BBC will not tell the truth and shows like Question Time are another example of the antiquated and agenda driven purpose of the BBC. Having Brand on is meant to 'fill gaps', but if Brand is for real, maybe they are playing a dangerous game. Th same can be said of Farage. Farage versus Brand says it all about the BBC and the UK.....what a travesty.
Personally, I applaud Russell Brand. Though I don't find him funny, I don't need to be entertained by him. What I think people need is someone with a sense of decency sticking up for them and if Brand is willing to get up there in front of a loaded audience and put himself through it, then full credit to the man. Brand is right. There is nobody to vote for and the revolution will come from beyond. The system itself is rot. His Trews videos are very good too and along with Russia Today is where people should be heading for their news. The mainstream is dead. God, condemn the Queen.
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He wants to keep quiet....unless he wants to be a member of parliament
Job Biscuit (nuff said)!!!
eh eh!!
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Originally Posted by
Gandalf
During my prolonged period in exile for inciting the wrath of the Zionist empire, I have found myself enjoying Russell Brand. Brand is a man that has some people foaming at the mouth with hatred, but it is something I find hard to place. Is it because he is an addict that likes to fuck? Isn't any man flawed? What sets Brand apart for me though is that he has taken the time to read his Chomsky, to get involved in local issues, to show that he cares.
Russell Brand is really just one of us and he had no need to ever get involved with local concerns or develop a politics of reason. I watched him on Question Time and was almost in tears at the way he restrained himself with a premeditated audience and yet another media agenda to try and belittle him. However, he maintained his cool and he expressed his points with an integrity found nowhere else on the panel. He made Farage look like a dinosaur.
Sure, he resorted to insults and looked at Farage as though he is evil, but Farage was very telling in going nowhere near the City of London (centre of all global evil) which only received praise. Then the clap trap from others about the NHS and privatisation. It effectively has been privatised with PFI initiatives and new contracts handed out daily. The BBC will not tell the truth and shows like Question Time are another example of the antiquated and agenda driven purpose of the BBC. Having Brand on is meant to 'fill gaps', but if Brand is for real, maybe they are playing a dangerous game. Th same can be said of Farage. Farage versus Brand says it all about the BBC and the UK.....what a travesty.
Personally, I applaud Russell Brand. Though I don't find him funny, I don't need to be entertained by him. What I think people need is someone with a sense of decency sticking up for them and if Brand is willing to get up there in front of a loaded audience and put himself through it, then full credit to the man. Brand is right. There is nobody to vote for and the revolution will come from beyond. The system itself is rot. His Trews videos are very good too and along with Russia Today is where people should be heading for their news. The mainstream is dead. God, condemn the Queen.
Russell Brand Miles I think he is a fucking twerp mate, I cant find one indearing thing about the nob
he is one of them people, I could smack in the face again and again and REALLY ENJOY IT,
yes mate I could, then kick him in the bollocks for fun.:)
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I like Brand. He actually joins demonstrations and takes action. He is not just words and I rate him for having the courage of his convictions and saying how it is.
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Master
I like Brand. He actually joins demonstrations and takes action. He is not just words and I rate him for having the courage of his convictions and saying how it is.
Trust you to be a Brand lover.:vd:
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Dia bando
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Originally Posted by
Master
I like Brand. He actually joins demonstrations and takes action. He is not just words and I rate him for having the courage of his convictions and saying how it is.
Trust you to be a Brand lover.:vd:
BBC News - Farage and Brand trade post Question Time insults
He is brilliant. :):):)
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Interesting comments. Brand is someone the AM is very suspicious of, but I don't see what harm a voice sticking up for ordinary people can do. He could stay in his penthouse preening and doing nothing, but he actually is doing something, and I can only look at the positive in that rather than focusing on the negative such as the hypocritical and frankly ludicrous Sun newspaper approach. I really enjoy his Trews and welcome his voice.
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Brand my have his opinion but , if your on £55 to live feed, cloth , and keep yourself warm, remarks
by a bit of a celebrity are of very little help.!
Farage is a shit bag UKIP policy's, are just Tory's that hate the EU for all the flag waving that's what
they are.
Russell Brand is what he is a you like him or you don't.!
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Brand has made it clear he does not want to be a 'professional politician'. He wants to use his fame to bring a voice to causes that he believes in. Many of them are very worthwhile, although one of them 'causes' is a book he is selling. Despite that caveat, I think Brand is a brilliant addition to political discourse in the UK, and I commend him for much of his work.
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Brand was good on Question Time, but he faltered with his 'I don't want to become like them' comment in response to the question of why don't you become directly involved. I agree with the view that the system is beyond any repair and thus it must must collapse externally, but I found his response a little shallow. However, he was under pressure and I guess it just came out that way. It's hard to think sometimes under pressure. Also his comments about being just an entertainer on Twitter were evasive. He shouldn't say that. He is aspiring for more than mere entertainment, and you can entertain and motivate and help people. He knows it's now more than entertainment otherwise he wouldn't be doing it. Revolution is not a game. Brand gets a raw deal from the mainstream media too. They are traitors really and their grip on opinion is tenuous at best. I think people are seeing through it all now, whence the police state reaching out its tentacles in a not so subtle manner. The UK mainstream media is in a very poor state of affairs really. You can sense the dinosaur nations giving out a roar, but they have lost all credibility with banking, wars, torture, austerity, privatisation, tuition fees etc. The backlash is long overdue.
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Master
UKIP are a party of disgruntled Tory's, there policy's are based on immigration and not much else
there are many issues immigration is just one of them.!
Farage and his mob are using immigration as there main target, Farage just one more posh boy
whipping up the peasants, in to a frenzy I take a look at the bigger picture.
Will UKIP improve you standard of living no not one bit,! will there be more jobs and housing for
us brits no, Thatcher knackered this Country up, she hated Community as people stick together
you destroy Community your onto a winner, the old bitch I hope she burns in hell.
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Brand is no different than Billy Bragg a Champagne Socialist. Socialism for all but him!
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Russell Brand's Hardback anti-capitalist manifesto, RRP only £20, for sale in in Asda (aka 'Walmart', the store he wants to boycott) and just in time for Christmas... :rolleyes:
He can then roll out the paperback version in march/may, get it in all of the Airport bookshops in time for when air traffic picks up. RRP £6.99
Talk about convictions... :vd:
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Originally Posted by
Master
I like Brand. He actually joins demonstrations and takes action. He is not just words and I rate him for having the courage of his convictions and saying how it is.
Demonstrations are important to Brand, unless he wants to go and hang out with David Walliams and Jimmy Carr at a Musical Theatre launch party. Then it's OK to just 'show your face' for appearances sake and then leave.
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Originally Posted by
Gandalf
During my prolonged period in exile for inciting the wrath of the Zionist empire, I have found myself enjoying Russell Brand. Brand is a man that has some people foaming at the mouth with hatred, but it is something I find hard to place. Is it because he is an addict that likes to fuck? Isn't any man flawed? What sets Brand apart for me though is that he has taken the time to read his Chomsky, to get involved in local issues, to show that he cares.
Russell Brand is really just one of us and he had no need to ever get involved with local concerns or develop a politics of reason. I watched him on Question Time and was almost in tears at the way he restrained himself with a premeditated audience and yet another media agenda to try and belittle him. However, he maintained his cool and he expressed his points with an integrity found nowhere else on the panel. He made Farage look like a dinosaur.
Sure, he resorted to insults and looked at Farage as though he is evil, but Farage was very telling in going nowhere near the City of London (centre of all global evil) which only received praise. Then the clap trap from others about the NHS and privatisation. It effectively has been privatised with PFI initiatives and new contracts handed out daily. The BBC will not tell the truth and shows like Question Time are another example of the antiquated and agenda driven purpose of the BBC. Having Brand on is meant to 'fill gaps', but if Brand is for real, maybe they are playing a dangerous game. Th same can be said of Farage. Farage versus Brand says it all about the BBC and the UK.....what a travesty.
Personally, I applaud Russell Brand. Though I don't find him funny, I don't need to be entertained by him. What I think people need is someone with a sense of decency sticking up for them and if Brand is willing to get up there in front of a loaded audience and put himself through it, then full credit to the man. Brand is right. There is nobody to vote for and the revolution will come from beyond. The system itself is rot. His Trews videos are very good too and along with Russia Today is where people should be heading for their news. The mainstream is dead. God, condemn the Queen.
Cheers, my friend, glad you are here again.
Russel Brand gets on every last one of my nerves. he annoys me nearly as much as Jim Carey.
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I was having this very same discussion with an ex colleague of mine yesterday. He's gone all Citizen Smith over the last 2 years, constantly ranting about something, generally the BBC. He hates Brand too so was pleased as punch when he apparently got made a mug of on QT, he cant see the hypocrisy in his argument.
He was slating Brand for his New Era protest too, he was upset at Brand paying rent to a tax dodging landlord whilst taking up the good fight with the trash. My mate is an IT tech like me but is also a part time plastic lord of the manor looking after a country estate with his wife when the owner and confirmed tax dodger fucks off over seas every five minute. He also cant see the hypocrisy in that one either. I cant blame him, full size snooker table and a heated indoor swimming pool, I'd chuck my principles out the window as I approached the secure gates, long before heading down the sweeping driveway.
I can take him or leave him myself. He can be engaging when he wants to be but generally chooses to play up to the over the top caricature of himself. I agree with his underlying point, politicians wont fix our problems, it's not in their best interests too. I'll leave the prophesising to Miles because I don't know how exactly it will happen but we have to fix our own problems by saying no, we wont take it any more.
Protesting isn't something exclusively reserved for the unwashed dreadlocked lentil eating brigade sitting around a camp fire singing give peace a chance. If a mega rich celebrity wants to take time out from banging models to take to the streets for something he believes in, even if he isn't directly affected himself then good on him.
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What I dislike with the Brands of this World and the other loveys, is there condescending manner
in which they jump on the moral band wagon.!
Most people do things to suit themselves, tax evasion etc hiding there money away most people
are hypocrites, say one thing and do the complete opposite.
Millionaires can lord it over the peasants, some do others don't yes privately educated posh boys
rubbing shoulders, with the working classes what bunch of A holes.
Sorry to say it but the TV personality thing, is old hat look at Bob Geldof he was broke then after
telling people to dig deep into there pocket, feed the World.
Bobby Boy is worth about 60 plus million,!!!!!!!!!!! strange but true a bunch of condescending bloody
idiots.;)
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AdamGB
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Master
I like Brand. He actually joins demonstrations and takes action. He is not just words and I rate him for having the courage of his convictions and saying how it is.
Demonstrations are important to Brand, unless he wants to go and hang out with David Walliams and Jimmy Carr at a Musical Theatre launch party. Then it's OK to just 'show your face' for appearances sake and then leave.
At least he has the balls to stand out and demonstrate and can go on Question Time and take on politicians. That takes bottle.
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We don't need a revolution. We'd possibly end up with even bigger crooks in charge if we did.
We need a truth and reconciliation commission. They had one of these to wind up apartheid-era South Africa. Basically the apartheid regime was such a gigantic criminal enterprise that they would have had to send tens of thousands of politicians and police and so on to prison.
So they held televised hearings where they admitted their guilt and what they'd done. They all had amnesty provided they all told the truth.
We need to do that here. Get all former government ministers in to say yeah, I gave billions in contracts to XYZ corp. and got a seat on the board for twenty years in return. I'll give the money back and just live off my pension. And XYZ get fined and have to return the amount of money they robbed from the state. Hedge funds and their dodgy PFI deals all have to hand the goodies back and so on and so on.
A nice understated British revolution.
Russel Brand. His heart is in the right place but he's not very good at doing what he's trying to do. He should have done a lot of reading and talking to knowledgeable people before he started doing what he's doing.
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Kirkland Laing
We don't need a revolution. We'd possibly end up with even bigger crooks in charge if we did.
We need a truth and reconciliation commission. They had one of these to wind up apartheid-era South Africa. Basically the apartheid regime was such a gigantic criminal enterprise that they would have had to send tens of thousands of politicians and police and so on to prison.
So they held televised hearings where they admitted their guilt and what they'd done. They all had amnesty provided they all told the truth.
We need to do that here. Get all former government ministers in to say yeah, I gave billions in contracts to XYZ corp. and got a seat on the board for twenty years in return. I'll give the money back and just live off my pension. And XYZ get fined and have to return the amount of money they robbed from the state. Hedge funds and their dodgy PFI deals all have to hand the goodies back and so on and so on.
A nice understated British revolution.
Russel Brand. His heart is in the right place but he's not very good at doing what he's trying to do. He should have done a lot of reading and talking to knowledgeable people before he started doing what he's doing.
That is a cracking idea. You should stand in the next general election!
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Russell Brand is a jackass!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmlZWYvXMUo
He's a cunt and someone should smash his face in with a brick
"I'm not here to talk about my rent mate"
Hey twat you either are down for Socialism and live like it or you're a fucking hypocrite of the highest order! How much do tickets to your shows go for? How much do your dvds cost? How much for your cds? How much for your book of drivel? Fuck Brand and fuck everyone that likes him....he's a jackass
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Master
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AdamGB
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Master
I like Brand. He actually joins demonstrations and takes action. He is not just words and I rate him for having the courage of his convictions and saying how it is.
Demonstrations are important to Brand, unless he wants to go and hang out with David Walliams and Jimmy Carr at a Musical Theatre launch party. Then it's OK to just 'show your face' for appearances sake and then leave.
At least he has the balls to stand out and demonstrate and can go on Question Time and take on politicians. That takes bottle.
He's just doing a gig, his book isn't going to sell itself.
He's not active, he's full of empty rhetoric... Not solutions.
Don't give me that 'he's bringing awareness to issues lark', that's his attitude and it's condescending to his audience, it's nothing any adult with half a brain doesn't already know.
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Since when was it disallowed for socialist to earn a living?
It is not publicity it is real concern.
I wish other "stars" would stand up for what they believe in.
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He is neither. Just simply a cunt.
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Master
Since when was it disallowed for socialist to earn a living?
It is not publicity it is real concern.
I wish other "stars" would stand up for what they believe in.
#1 He's not practicing what he's preaching.
#2 If he was actually living as a socialist it wouldn't be publicity
#3 Why? These famous people are the dope heads who never finished high school...actors, comedians, musicians...the vast majority of the super famous know NOTHING of real life. Oprah Winfrey didn't know how to fill her car with gas....that's just how out of touch she is. She went from food stamps to billionaire so quick that every day use of a car is something foreign to her.
And I'm sorry I REFUSE to be preached to by a millionaire comedian about how great socialism is....go tell it to the millions Mao starved or the millions Stalin starved.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=za6tV1oLQbI
Russell Brand is a dolt
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Brand is not a socialist and never claimed to be.
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Master
Brand is not a socialist and never claimed to be.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbJ-xgn3ygU
Socialist/Egalitarian/Massive Redistribution of Wealth/Heavy Taxation of corporations
"I say profit is a filthy word!" - Russell Brand
But you were saying?
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Master
Since when was it disallowed for socialist to earn a living?
It is not publicity it is real concern.
I wish other "stars" would stand up for what they believe in.
If his book is about putting out a message to the proletariat, why sell it (let alone with a £20 RPP via shops you call to boycott)?
It's 2014, everybody has access to a virtually free printing press (the internet), why profeteer your anti capitalist manifesto, unless you are not 100% sincere.
If he's going to distribute it physically, why not use some of his fortune? Or at least self publish... Instead he's getting it published by a corporate publisher and it's being distributed by the likes of Walmart.
Getting into bed with those people goes against what he is projecting his ethics as and isn't required at all to spread his message, but I guess his bottom line would be lower.
He's not getting in the trenches when demostrations get messy... He's showing his face at peaceful protests and in some cases fucking off after 20 minutes to go to celebrity parties.
His suggestion of not voting is idiotic... Politicians pander to whom ever they can get votes from - wealthy retirees, landlords etc are already the majority of the ones voting... Our generation is getting fucked over and having polticians only worry about keeping happy the very people brand is against is counterproductive, to say the least.
We're ignored enough as it is.
Not only is Brand a millionare, he has had to do relatively little to get there, he certainatly has never lived or worked for years in a way that most of us have to.
No wonder he is so naive and condescending in his 'enlightening' of us proles...:rolleyes:
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A bit sad that the thread is ending this way. Brand is doing a lot in local issues and he is able to break down the absurdity of the media very well. There is a lot of hate because he has money, is a comedian, and sells books in supermarkets, but do you agree with the message? Okay, you say he is a cunt, but does he say something that resonates? I think it does and Brand is giving it a shot. It can cause no harm.
Kirklands ideas are well and good, but will never happen. This elite will never atone and thus revolution is the only answer. It doesn't mean blood, but proper anarchy. People taking control of their working environments in collectives. The City of London probably has to go. Can anyone imagine Blair saying sorry like a good boy? Me neither, stick him in The Hague. Deal with them all properly. If people would just stick together, it wouldn't take much to get these people out. It really wouldn't.
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Fuck no I don't agree with what he says. You want to take revenge on the elite...for what? If you peons were elite I'm certain you'd be worse than the people who have the majority of the wealth right now why? Well look at the countless revolutions, look at the countless times socialism was tried....you know what profits they reaped? Poverty, death, injustice...on a scale unimaginable to most and yet you lot bellyache over Capitalism which pulled the average man out of the muck and mire of true poverty. Sissy ass socialists....if only you lot were an endangered species
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I don't mind Russell Brand. Sometimes he talks sense, sometimes he doesn't. He isn't a great thinker for sure but he has more about him than many.
Regardless of whether it's Russell Brand I don't agree with the view that someone with money is a hypocrite for standing up for poor people. That newsreader was trying to shame him for having a high rent which he can meet yet talking for people that can't afford theirs as if that is somehow hypocritical. I'm not sure how that is hypocritical. It isn't.
Anyway, not a great fan of his and he does irritate me at times, but I think his heart is in the right place.
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The media attitude towards Brand ironically shows how redundant they are. They need him on Question Time (set up) yet have to slag him off in The Sun, with massive hypocrisy.
Burn down all British newspapers as they are all garbage! That is a factual statement and please ban the BBC from this country as it is rather poo. I want Russia Today! People should want truth tellers and decent media. The BBC and government spin time is gone. Nobody on this earth believes them. How could they?
Welcome to the new reality. It's time.
Edit: Russell Brand has done a great job. He has paid attention and the views are respectable, and the media response shameful. I will demand the end of the BBC here and the introduction of RT. I hope the world over people are doing the same. The bad guys are marked and the revolution will be televised.
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Gandalf
The media attitude towards Brand ironically shows how redundant they are. They need him on Question Time (set up) yet have to slag him off in The Sun, with massive hypocrisy.
Burn down all British newspapers as they are all garbage! That is a factual statement and please ban the BBC from this country as it is rather poo. I want Russia Today! People should want truth tellers and decent media. The BBC and government spin time is gone. Nobody on this earth believes them. How could they?
Welcome to the new reality. It's time.
Edit: Russell Brand has done a great job. He has paid attention and the views are respectable, and the media response shameful. I will demand the end of the BBC here and the introduction of RT. I hope the world over people are doing the same. The bad guys are marked and the revolution will be televised.
Is Russia Today reliable?
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ryanman
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Gandalf
The media attitude towards Brand ironically shows how redundant they are. They need him on Question Time (set up) yet have to slag him off in The Sun, with massive hypocrisy.
Burn down all British newspapers as they are all garbage! That is a factual statement and please ban the BBC from this country as it is rather poo. I want Russia Today! People should want truth tellers and decent media. The BBC and government spin time is gone. Nobody on this earth believes them. How could they?
Welcome to the new reality. It's time.
Edit: Russell Brand has done a great job. He has paid attention and the views are respectable, and the media response shameful. I will demand the end of the BBC here and the introduction of RT. I hope the world over people are doing the same. The bad guys are marked and the revolution will be televised.
Is Russia Today reliable?
Meaning does it tell you the truth? I think it tells you what 'they' don't want you to know. Sure, it's the truth in that regard. They couldn't get away with it if it wasn't. Is the BBC reliable? No. A case in point is that of Melanie Shaw who revealed evidence of massive child abuse and the BBC doesn't want to know. The BBC is a shill group that has a history of nurturing paedophiles. It has no interest and of course neither does the government which has a history of abusing children too. Two of a kind, I guess. Russia Today is pretty solid news IMO and it's where I head to first everyday. I leave the UK papers to last and often have a giggle. They are unbelievably bad.
Russia Today is not what you expect, but it is reliable. They listen to Finkelstein, Chomsky, people that would never get on CNN......though of course Dershovitz the torture advocator got plenty of airtime on CNN....Russia Today is needed more and more, it would help. I'm serious, I want the BBC out of this country. They are backers of war crimes.
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You want the BBC out of S.Korea ?
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Greenbeanz
You want the BBC out of S.Korea ?
For sure. To be replaced by something more credible. The UK is a war crime state and the BBC backs the Anglo-American roadshow. Personally, I think ratings are low and I want them to change channels. Russia Today would be ideal. They started showing boxing live recently, all it takes is a few requests.
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Miles why are so enamoured by Brand and his attacks on Farrage on the demonic BBC when a few weeks ago anything raised about the questionable stance of UKIP on Immigration by myself or Ryanman was poo pooed by you and roundly dismissed. Consistency. Like Brand you have turned up to the party 20 years too late and all the decent booze and drugs have gone. Brand is a fool just like Lydon has said and at a time when there is a real opportunity for change the vain, nasty cunt has shown his real cards as a paying member of the establishment by seeking to obfuscate the issues and remove himself from any personal responsibility. You said you wanted re-nationlisation of power companies and the railways, a living wage, for tuition fees to be abolished, the Green party have been radical enough to suggest all this, but like Brand you have kept schtum about it, the Elephant in the room is you would rather just crow and moan about problems than take part in the solution. People fought bloody hard for democracy and I am not about to resign myself to following a guy who has his chest hair straightened and attacks incredibly important old artists because he is too stupid,patronising and pompous to be familiar with their work.
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Gandalf
A bit sad that the thread is ending this way. Brand is doing a lot in local issues and he is able to break down the absurdity of the media very well. There is a lot of hate because he has money, is a comedian, and sells books in supermarkets, but do you agree with the message? Okay, you say he is a cunt, but does he say something that resonates? I think it does and Brand is giving it a shot. It can cause no harm.
Kirklands ideas are well and good, but will never happen. This elite will never atone and thus revolution is the only answer. It doesn't mean blood, but proper anarchy. People taking control of their working environments in collectives. The City of London probably has to go. Can anyone imagine Blair saying sorry like a good boy? Me neither, stick him in The Hague. Deal with them all properly. If people would just stick together, it wouldn't take much to get these people out. It really wouldn't.
I dislike him because he's full of hot air and lacks true conviction... A lot of what he says may 'resonate', but it's nothing profound that most people don't already think, it's condescending...
You don't get a revolution by being absentee... When in history has that ever happened? You just allow the politicians to ignore you more and pander to the ones still voting (businessmen, landlords, the wealthy etc). Naive
