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Arum said he and Pacquiao were "ignorant about the drug-testing stuff," when Mayweather first made the request for testing in the 2009 negotiations. He said Pacquiao has educated himself on it and has no problem to being tested and readily agreed to testing as part of his deal in getting the Mayweather fight.
Yeah I'm sure they were... ;D;D;D
I must admit when Pac refused to take the test I was convinced he was using!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
Well when someone turns down (an estimated) 100 million dollar pay day because he won't take a drug test... to me that sets off a few alarms ;D;D;D
Yeah you're right. $100 million isn't enough to spend what, a whole day learning the ins and outs of what is required in this testing either is it!? ha haQuote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
You'll know they're negotiating when Floyd says they are...not when Arum says they are. Arum has cried wolf 10 too many times to be believed.
Unless it comes from the A side which is Al haymon or floyd mayweather mouth nothing is happening!
Bunch of clowns knew nothing about the drug testing!!!
How can any diehard pac fan defend this piece of shit Bob arum!!
Ariza has already exposed these guys and now after two losses they understand everything they need to know about pissing in a bottle?!
What a joke!
Please let this fight happen and expose these frauds in a complete boxing master class shut out!
Easy work.
This statement says everything anyone needs to know about this situation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
Marquez beat all versions anyway so we know how to put pac to sleep.
Manny Pacquiao is a kindly, decent God-fearing man, while Floyd Mayweather is a selfish, despicable woman-beater. Pacquiao loves his wife and has never hit her, and he loves his Filipino people.
Manny would never demand an opponent wear gloves with extra padding. Manny doesn't demand home town advantage and has never used crooked referees like Joe Cortez to protect him. He doesn't need to run from his opponents nor pretend he's been fouled.
Floyd "Money" Mayweather is a shallow, selfish creature who coldly dumped his long-time partner Leonard Ellerbe, a man who truly loved him. Floyd doesn't care about anybody but himself. He treats women badly beating them up and never establishing a lasting relationship, perhaps because he can't come to terms with his sexuality.
I'm rooting for the good guy to win.
That could have been the problem, Floyd doesn't bat on the other team.Quote:
Originally Posted by Freedom
He's demanded special catch weights and he's demand crazy clauses (if Floyd came in overweight, he had to pay Manny 5 million dollars for ever pound he was over). Don't act like Manny was Mr. Humble. Floyd is a superstar, Manny is a superstar. Both used their superstar status to make demands and get what they want.Quote:
Originally Posted by Freedom
it MAY happen in MAY, well, MAYbe.
I'll bite. I think this will happen..and tonight I think Manny wins. Save the hater babble ;D I can't stand either of those divas.
One sides fans seem terrified now that it appears eminent. Excuses excuses excuses already flow. For the record it's already been released ,by the camp that says talking in the media only hinders negotiations but just keeps talking to the media, that both fighters get the gloves of their choice. Thanks team Pac for making sure we know all, or at least we get the picture you paint.
you know something is fishy when mayweathers side has said nothing while arum and pac are saying everything is settled and floyd just has to sign. i think its another tactic to make it look like floyd is hiding. i dont think that things are actually settled at all. i think that there have been talks but thats the extent of it.
You guys really think this fight is happening huh? :-\
Floyd has to READ over the contract terms. He'll have a response by next month.
I think it'll definitely happen this time around because both guys are at the end of their rope and realize it's now or never, and with the losses Pac took I think at this point he'll agree to just about anything to get the fight done.
This fight is going to happen. Everybody wants it to happen really, they're just arguing over the split, whether it's the fighters or Top Rank and Haymon or HBO and Showtime. But they'll eventually all come to an agreement because there's so much money to be made and very few decent options for either guy if they don't fight each other. It'll get announced eventually.
That sounds like a bitter Roy right there. He wasn't exactly kicking in the door to clean out a division when hbo handed him the keys to the castle to white wash mandatories.The first Mayweather v Maidana was pretty dern entertaining, and that's hard to say when it comes to Floyd :-X
I'm a huge Roy fan but I have to admit that he was more than one title defence where he was just on autopilot, going through the motions, and it was less than compelling to watch.
I think Floyd is past the point where he's going to put on dazzling performances. He's made it 18 years without a loss, he has two fights left so the name of the game is winning.
It is all on Floyd now. No excuses.
True, RJJ didn't fight all we've asked, but in terms of his beef- Yeah RJJ at times clowned around and still dominated for his fans. Danced a bit, threw 4 left hooks daring a counter and the behind the back knockout will probably never be reproduced.
PBF is all business in the ring, he doesn't take chances doing silly stuff in the ring. He ensures his victories by taking care of business.
But, RJJ makes so much sense to me when asking why now?
Me too. Morales fight I- proved he can be thoroughly out boxed. JMM has knocked him out cold.
Honestly: if/when he fights Pac and beat him won't Pac fans be justified to scream....it was an old Pac. A younger version would have done different?
No, because the fight was agreed and team Pac backed out.Quote:
Originally Posted by SlimTrae
the fact people don't want to face and is absolutely undeniable is that you can't dodge a fight by agreeing to a fight unless you back out. Floyd didn't back out.
Really?Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
http://www.boxingnews24.com/2015/01/...inside-source/
I know, shit site but this has had me concerned. When one side is quiet and the other side says they don't want to negotiate in the media but have talked about venue, gloves, split, date etcetera. Meanwhile HBO/Showtime haven't even struck a deal so WTF is this contract that has been signed? You don't think it looks bad at all? When people's words don't match their actions(saying they shouldnt talk but talking talking talking) I begin to have doubts.
To non-Pac fans maybe, but serious Ron...Pacfans blame PBF. PBF fans blame Pac.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron SwansonNo, because the fight was agreed and team Pac backed out.Quote:
Originally Posted by SlimTrae
the fact people don't want to face and is absolutely undeniable is that you can't dodge a fight by agreeing to a fight unless you back out. Floyd didn't back out.
I blame both of em...and as far as I am concerned When Floyd wants to fight someone- he will do it. Yet he retired at one point claimed he was done.. so Pac, Rito or Paul can't be the blamed for that. He quit..so he told us...
His dad has gone on record saying don't fight Pac...then they spent a year or two questioning how Pac got knocked out as a rookie, then got better as he got older, why his head got bigger, hell Roger said he knew the shit he was taking and called it A-sde meth...really rog?
...While I understand their points, the end is...that shit is just exuses.
No way Floyd really wanted the fight, but couldnt make it happen.
I stand to say the same: No way does a 2015 fight hold the same steam as it would have several years ago. Floyd dropped JMM and JMM knocked Pac out cold, I'll watch it, but it aint the same now.
Is this the year they fight, or is it like the girl you loved 10 years ago she was a babe, and
10 years on she looks a bit of a dog.!!!!;D