Lee-Quillin in Advanced Talks For Garcia-Peterson Card - Boxing News
I didn't expect this, but it's a good fight to happen. Hope Lee can pull off the upset
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Lee-Quillin in Advanced Talks For Garcia-Peterson Card - Boxing News
I didn't expect this, but it's a good fight to happen. Hope Lee can pull off the upset
So he drops the WBO and the biggest payday of his life against a guy that according to him he would have beaten anyway and now will be the challenger for the WBO. Another graduate of MENSA.
Quillen is mediocre anyway, like Lee.
So this must be one of those bigger fights Quillin was talking about :p
Neither are anywhere near mediocre! They are both very dangerous, if a notch below the elite skill wise. I agree with @brocktonblockbust, you are a hungry man.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Swanson
You don't feel silly saying "I agree with rocktonblockbust"? Isn't his whole shtick that he isn't serious about anything he says?Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pkingNeither are anywhere near mediocre! They are both very dangerous, if a notch below the elite skill wise. I agree with @brocktonblockbust, you are a hungry man.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Swanson
I'll be more specific. If the division wasn't weak for the last 20 years and was good neither should ever hold a title. They are good fighters but it's a testament to the fact boxing is in a lull that either has ever been a champion. They should be gatekeepers, that is their level but middleweight is light on talent and has been for a very long time.Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pkingNeither are anywhere near mediocre! They are both very dangerous, if a notch below the elite skill wise. I agree with @brocktonblockbust, you are a hungry man.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Swanson
Hell, I'll go on. Sam Soliman never should have been a world champion, this older shot version of Jermain Taylor never should have been a world champion. I love Cotto but he never should have been a MW champion.
I reckon he did it for some reasons; 1) Haymon told him to, the new TV deal wasn't ready at the time of the defence so he told him to vacate instead. 2) He said in an interview it gives him the opportunity to become a two weight world champion. 3) He also said in the interview that he was having family problems and he wasn't in the right place to defend his title. 4) Haymon wouldn't have wanted to work with a Roc nation maybe?
Adios Andy, it's been real. Pete Quillen might not have the best sense when it comes to management of his career but he's certainly tough enough to KO Andy Lee who is only in this position because he landed a Hail Mary punch on Julian Jackson's son.
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Originally Posted by El Kabong
Andy has way more experience and has fought better competition overall. This is supposed to be a made to order Al Haymon moment but its not out of the question that Andy never read the script. And El Andy is here because he fought the guy Quillin refused to fight and knocked him out. The only southpaw he ever faced was a spent Winky and he's never been clocked by a puncher like Lee.
Andy doesn't fight smart, he doesn't control distance well enough and on the inside he's very vulnerable. Pete is athletic, he's strong, he's fast, he's powerful, and he's got a good chin. We've seen Andy's ceiling...it's below Pete
Not a bad scrap style wise at all. Thinking Quillin gets him out late, left hooks beating Andy's neon sign loaded right hand.
Weird thing is Lee landed the hail mary punch against the guy Quillin didn't want to face too. Which kind of adds to a the mystery of it. If its a close your eyes and swing thing for Lee, he's had a lot of success with it. At a certain point you kind of have to say it's deliberate over desperation, no? Lets hope theres one more in there. I'd love to see crazy legs quillin chase lee with a hammer and get stretched, maybe it it will knock some sense into him about his management.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitQuote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
Andy has way more experience and has fought better competition overall. This is supposed to be a made to order Al Haymon moment but its not out of the question that Andy never read the script. And El Andy is here because he fought the guy Quillin refused to fight and knocked him out. The only southpaw he ever faced was a spent Winky and he's never been clocked by a puncher like Lee.
Bullshit. If I were the WBO Quillin would never ever get a title shot EVER!!
I don't understand why Lee wouldn't take the BJS fight in Ireland before taking the Quillin fight, but he ain't making me money, so who cares, I guess.
Quillin-Lee is a good solid middleweight fight.
I like Quillin here because Lee is vulnerable to punchers. Lee has also been down big in his last two fights before knocking the opponents out. It's difficult to imagine how he could do it a third time. At the same time, Quillin hasn't shown too much recently either, and he too can be hit and hurt. Lee is a better boxer than Quillin, but not as big (Quillin used to fight at 168 and Lee fought at 154 recently). Quillin is a bit faster than Lee. Probably stronger too. Footwork isn't either guy's strong suit.
Do you know that Quillin asked GGG to move up because he was too good? ;D
Interesting that Saunders says if Lee was going to be forced to defend against him that Lee was going to vacate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
The Quillen fight was happening with a belt or without by the sounds of it.
This leaves Billy fighting the likes of Blackwell again.
Saunders: I Believe I Can Beat Quillin or Lee Right Now! - Boxing News
Saunders might be on the undercard making his US debut.
M actually happy for him if he is. Being in America a British opponent wont wash so hopefully he will get a relatively decent test. I have underrated Saunders I believe. I cant accept iv over rated Eubank and Eubanks next fight will hopefully prove me right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
I think Saunders beats Lee. Not sure about Quillen as have never seen him fight but if Saunders wins the WBO and Eubank wins the WBA regular after beating Chudinov and Jacobs it sets up a big unification between the two then potentially Golovkn for the winner.
Why would Lee take BJS over Quillin?? Makes no damn sense!
So Saunders gets a six-figure payday for doing nothing, a spot on the Lee-Quillin undercard in New York and remains mandatory for the title? I think that's what you call a result.
Andy Lee - winning that "world" title has always been his dream and defending it back home in Ireland will be the proudest moment of his life.
Two months later he's fighting back in America and was willing to dump the belt for the dosh. Boxing is great....
Peter Quillin - by refusing to face his mandatory he loses out on a $1.4m career high payday and has to dump the WBO title.
Six months later is challenging for WBO title. Boxing is....
Frank is no mug is he you could see this coming a mile off,! just as I said stand to one-side moneyQuote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
BJS is on to a winner and so is Frank.:)
@Fenster ... the issue speaks for itself. Quillin must have been afraid of Korobov's pedigree afterall. lololol.... Andy Lee wasn't.
;)
I highly doubt Quillin was scared. I think most boxers would fight king kong if you offered enough dough.
Al Haymon + RocNation don't currently mix. Boxing politics. Completely mad.
smh.... forgot about THAT angle. :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Apparently they paid Saunders 6 figs to step aside. Not a bad nights work for sitting on his ass? THink hell be on the undercard in his US debut and will get a shot at the winner if he wants. Id fancy him against either of the 2 to be honest. He'll prob be a decent price against Quillen too.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossInteresting that Saunders says if Lee was going to be forced to defend against him that Lee was going to vacate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
The Quillen fight was happening with a belt or without by the sounds of it.
This leaves Billy fighting the likes of Blackwell again.
Money?Quote:
Originally Posted by ykdadamaja
There was no real good reason for Quillen to vacate the title. It has just meant he has been inactive, sitting on the side lines, training but not getting paid and having to justify it in interviews for no good reason.
It would have been because of the NBC and Haymon not wanting Quillen to fight on another tv station or work with roc nationQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
This is a good solid fight between top ten middleweights.
Thinking on it there is no way this misses shootout. It feels like Quillin is in need of rebuilding, Lee at peak of new momentum. Its a solid scrap
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Can't wait for this, really hope Lee can do the business and get another stunning knockout.
Quillan turned that fight down to spend time with his family.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tam SeddonIt would have been because of the NBC and Haymon not wanting Quillen to fight on another tv station or work with roc nationQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
Had nothing to do with Haymon.
This is 100% fabricated. It had everything to do with Haymon.Quote:
Originally Posted by corvetteQuillan turned that fight down to spend time with his family.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tam SeddonIt would have been because of the NBC and Haymon not wanting Quillen to fight on another tv station or work with roc nationQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
Had nothing to do with Haymon.
Quillan wanted to spend time with his wife and new baby....just like Maidana after he beat Broner.Quote:
Originally Posted by RantcatratThis is 100% fabricated. It had everything to do with Haymon.Quote:
Originally Posted by corvetteQuillan turned that fight down to spend time with his family.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tam SeddonIt would have been because of the NBC and Haymon not wanting Quillen to fight on another tv station or work with roc nationQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
Had nothing to do with Haymon.
Maidana was out for less than 6 months after getting a decent payday against Broner. Given he was fighting Floyd next and with the promo obligations that goes with that he took no time off. Quillen is yet to recieve a big payday and has taken a year off. The comparison, like most of your posts, is just stupid