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If you were Saunders would you face N'Dam now or Lee/Quillen in the summer?
N'Dam-Saunders Ordered By The IBF For Vacant Title - Boxing News
The IBF have ordered the fight to happen. However Saunders is likely to the shot in the summer against Lee or Quillen after taking step a side money. If you were him would you scrap that plan and take on N'Dam? Saunders is in a very nice place to be in right now.
Hassan N'Dam could face Sam Soliman after Sturm rejects title shot - Ring TV
If Saunders doesn't take the IBF route it's looking like it's N'Dam - Soliman for the vacant belt.
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It's like waiting for a bus, 2 arrive at once.;D
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It's like waiting for a bus, 2 arrive at once.;D
Sure is, all three of the potential opponents are tough fights for him.
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Re: If you were Saunders would you face N'Dam now or Lee/Quillen in the summer?
Ndam 1st then Lee Quillen winner :D
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Ndam 1st then Lee Quillen winner :D
I don't think he could do both to be honest but I could be wrong.
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Saunders is a good fighter and I definitely under rated him but he beat 4 unbeaten fighters in a row and took on Junior when he did not have to.
BJS should take the easiest and most lucrative route which would be Lee.
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Ndam 1st then Lee Quillen winner :D
I don't think he could do both to be honest but I could be wrong.
Him and ndam is a 50/50 fight. Saunders probably would be favorite if fight in England. Hed be fav over Lee too. Quillin be a tough fight but I give Saunders a good chance here too, Quillen is nothing special
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Saunders is a good fighter and I definitely under rated him but he beat 4 unbeaten fighters in a row and took on Junior when he did not have to.
BJS should take the easiest and most lucrative route which would be Lee.
Ndam would probably be easier then Quillen though and hes more likely to have to fight him then Lee. Also cant see Quillen coming to England
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4pO_zVLXPuc
Recent Saunders interview not watched this yet
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He should fight N'Dam and he's gotta think he wins that , no disrespect to N'Dam, but he's not gonna get a better chance. Then he'll be a World Champion and he could fight who he wants, including a unification fight with the winner of Lee/Quillin.
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After listening to that interview it's pretty obvious he's going down the WBO route.
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I think all 3 of those guys beat Saunders handily myself, as would a good few other 160 lbers. It was a decent performance to scrape by Eubank Jr(Who lets just forget had never fought a live body beforehand:rolleyes:) but why do people honestly give him such a good chance against people who can genuinely fight a bit over 12 rounds. Could be wrong, I just don't see him as being very good.
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The interview was done before the IBF announcement.
If I was Billy Joe i'd do the lottery this week.
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Its not often in this game that a man has 2 opportunities at the same time. The risk here is that if he loses the Wbo may figure out a way to shuffle the deck and he'd miss out on the Lee/Kid Ovaltine fight. I'm sure they are banking on Lee. On the other hand should he win he would immediately double his purse for that now unification showdown.
Tough call
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Its not often in this game that a man has 2 opportunities at the same time. The risk here is that if he loses the Wbo may figure out a way to shuffle the deck and he'd miss out on the Lee/Kid Ovaltine fight. I'm sure they are banking on Lee. On the other hand should he win he would immediately double his purse for that now unification showdown.
Tough call
He's in a great spot. A Lee fight in the UK/Ireland is the most lucrative. But if Lee loses to Kid Ovaltine, as @IamInuit refers to him, which is a distinct possibility, then the Lee fight won't happen.
I assume that if Saunder loses to N'Dam he loses his mandatory spot for a fight against the Lee/Kid Ovaltine winner?
I actually think N'Dam is a tougher fight for Saunders than Quillin. Saunders can box, but he doesn't hit that hard. N'Dam can box too, and is faster than Saunders, but doesn't have a great chin. Quillin is the worst boxer of the three, but has the biggest punch. Saunders has a chance at an upset against Quillin if he boxes and moves. I'm not sure he can box and move against N'Dam. Therefore, I might wait out for Lee/Kid Ovaltine winner.
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IamInuit
Its not often in this game that a man has 2 opportunities at the same time. The risk here is that if he loses the Wbo may figure out a way to shuffle the deck and he'd miss out on the Lee/Kid Ovaltine fight. I'm sure they are banking on Lee. On the other hand should he win he would immediately double his purse for that now unification showdown.
Tough call
He's in a great spot. A Lee fight in the UK/Ireland is the most lucrative. But if Lee loses to Kid Ovaltine, as @
IamInuit refers to him, which is a distinct possibility, then the Lee fight won't happen.
I assume that if Saunder loses to N'Dam he loses his mandatory spot for a fight against the Lee/Kid Ovaltine winner?
I actually think N'Dam is a tougher fight for Saunders than Quillin. Saunders can box, but he doesn't hit that hard. N'Dam can box too, and is faster than Saunders, but doesn't have a great chin. Quillin is the worst boxer of the three, but has the biggest punch. Saunders has a chance at an upset against Quillin if he boxes and moves. I'm not sure he can box and move against N'Dam. Therefore, I might wait out for Lee/Kid Ovaltine winner.
I think he would only lose that spot if he wins and even then, we don't know what the fine print is on his step aside contract. The WBC is famous for penalizing those who challenge for an alternate while also being their mandatory. Its the reason for that silly 141 fight between Peterson and Mattheysse. Not sure how the WBO handles these situations. I wonder if BJ's handlers figured this scenario in and then installed some kind of caveat? They had to know it was possible.
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I agree that he loses all those fights. He may be an A level domestic fighter, but I can't see him moving further on the world championship stage.
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I think he loses to Quillin, not sure about N'Dam and I can't see why he can't beat Lee.
In his last 2 fights , Lee went down to LMW (because they thought he was finished at MW) and was getting beat easily against Jackson before the Hail Mary shot.
He only went back up because they gifted him a title shot and the fight was a carbon copy of the fight before.
Saunders is fairly skilful without being brilliant and I think he could outbox Lee and NOT fall for the Haymaker.
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I agree that he loses all those fights. He may be an A level domestic fighter, but I can't see him moving further on the world championship stage.
To be fair what is Lee?
He's only a decent domestic fighter. He got stopped by Chavez Jr!
Saunders would be too tricky for Lee.
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Saunders is a credit to the sport. I am a fan of his now. :)
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Master
Saunders is a credit to the sport. I am a fan of his now. :)
Until he opens his mouth, then he just sounds like a gutter snipe.
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Master
Saunders is a credit to the sport. I am a fan of his now. :)
Until he opens his mouth, then he just sounds like a gutter snipe.
He should let his manager/lawyer do the talking. Telling the IBF to piss off was worded nicely.
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Master
Saunders is a credit to the sport. I am a fan of his now. :)
Until he opens his mouth, then he just sounds like a gutter snipe.
Unlike Tyson Fury :-)
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Greenbeanz
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Master
Saunders is a credit to the sport. I am a fan of his now. :)
Until he opens his mouth, then he just sounds like a gutter snipe.
Unlike Tyson Fury :-)
They might well be closely related in fairness :) I think Tyson Fury is pretty funny to be honest, and to give credit, both of them are damn fine boxers considering what you might expect from such characters. If they both fall quickly from grace, I think they would have no problem on the Caravan bare knuckle circuit.
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ross
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Master
Saunders is a credit to the sport. I am a fan of his now. :)
Until he opens his mouth, then he just sounds like a gutter snipe.
Unlike Tyson Fury :-)
They might well be closely related in fairness :) I think Tyson Fury is pretty funny to be honest, and to give credit, both of them are damn fine boxers considering what you might expect from such characters. If they both fall quickly from grace, I think they would have no problem on the Caravan bare knuckle circuit.
Saunders is way more refined technique wise than Fury. Sanders was a great amateur, where his speed served him well. I think Saunders has it in him to beat Lee. My grandparents lived in a caravan.:-)
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ruthless rocco
I agree that he loses all those fights. He may be an A level domestic fighter, but I can't see him moving further on the world championship stage.
To be fair what is Lee?
He's only a decent domestic fighter. He got stopped by Chavez Jr!
Saunders would be too tricky for Lee.
How is a world champ only a decent domestic level fighter? I think your understanding of levels is way off.
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Silkeyjoe
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ross
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ruthless rocco
I agree that he loses all those fights. He may be an A level domestic fighter, but I can't see him moving further on the world championship stage.
To be fair what is Lee?
He's only a decent domestic fighter. He got stopped by Chavez Jr!
Saunders would be too tricky for Lee.
How is a world champ only a decent domestic level fighter? I think your understanding of levels is way off.
If Lee gets past Quillen which I very much doubt Saunders has an easier time against him than he did Eubank.
Lees title reign wont get as far as a Saunders fight.
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Greenbeanz
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p4pking
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Greenbeanz
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ross
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Master
Saunders is a credit to the sport. I am a fan of his now. :)
Until he opens his mouth, then he just sounds like a gutter snipe.
Unlike Tyson Fury :-)
They might well be closely related in fairness :) I think Tyson Fury is pretty funny to be honest, and to give credit, both of them are damn fine boxers considering what you might expect from such characters. If they both fall quickly from grace, I think they would have no problem on the Caravan bare knuckle circuit.
Saunders is way more refined technique wise than Fury. Sanders was a great amateur, where his speed served him well. I think Saunders has it in him to beat Lee. My grandparents lived in a caravan.:-)
Why is Fury beating world ranked fighters while Saunders last fight was against a relative novice?
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Ross give Saunders some credit. Saunders fought 4 unbeaten fighters and now in line with a world title shot. He is better than a lot of people thought including Eubanks.
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Ross give Saunders some credit. Saunders fought 4 unbeaten fighters and now in line with a world title shot. He is better than a lot of people thought including Eubanks.
They may have been unbeaten but other than Eubank they will never get beyond the level they are at. I do give credit for Saunders facing unbeaten fighters but the fact is Eubank had faced no one, had no world rankng, and he still gave Saunders the hardest fight of his whole career.
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ross
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Master
Ross give Saunders some credit. Saunders fought 4 unbeaten fighters and now in line with a world title shot. He is better than a lot of people thought including Eubanks.
They may have been unbeaten but other than Eubank they will never get beyond the level they are at. I do give credit for Saunders facing unbeaten fighters but the fact is Eubank had faced no one, had no world rankng, and he still gave Saunders the hardest fight of his whole career.
You know as well as me Eubanks is a quality fighter and Saunders beat a quality fighter who will fight for a world title soon. Eubanks is quality and Saunders out boxed him in the early rounds. I though Junior may have sneaked it but credit should be given to Saunders.
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Master
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ross
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Master
Ross give Saunders some credit. Saunders fought 4 unbeaten fighters and now in line with a world title shot. He is better than a lot of people thought including Eubanks.
They may have been unbeaten but other than Eubank they will never get beyond the level they are at. I do give credit for Saunders facing unbeaten fighters but the fact is Eubank had faced no one, had no world rankng, and he still gave Saunders the hardest fight of his whole career.
You know as well as me Eubanks is a quality fighter and Saunders beat a quality fighter who will fight for a world title soon. Eubanks is quality and Saunders out boxed him in the early rounds. I though Junior may have sneaked it but credit should be given to Saunders.
Yes but my point was to greenbeanz that Fury has faced and beaten world ranked fighters, ex world title challengers etc Saunders hasn't.
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ruthless rocco
I agree that he loses all those fights. He may be an A level domestic fighter, but I can't see him moving further on the world championship stage.
To be fair what is Lee?
He's only a decent domestic fighter. He got stopped by Chavez Jr!
Saunders would be too tricky for Lee.
How is a world champ only a decent domestic level fighter? I think your understanding of levels is way off.
If Lee gets past Quillen which I very much doubt Saunders has an easier time against him than he did Eubank.
Lees title reign wont get as far as a Saunders fight.
How does that make him a decent domestic level fighter? He beat Korobov who certainly isnt elite but he aint no domestic level fighter. He got stopped by an unbeaten world champ who had a decent weight advantage on the night and most likely on PEDs and was ahead on the cards when stopped. Andy Lee is nothing special but hes not domestic level. If he gets past Quillin, and thats a big if, Id say hell get past Saunders too. Lets not forget this is the same Quillin that a lot of guys on this forum not too long ago thought Quillin would beat Golovkin.
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Master
Ross give Saunders some credit. Saunders fought 4 unbeaten fighters and now in line with a world title shot. He is better than a lot of people thought including Eubanks.
They may have been unbeaten but other than Eubank they will never get beyond the level they are at. I do give credit for Saunders facing unbeaten fighters but the fact is Eubank had faced no one, had no world rankng, and he still gave Saunders the hardest fight of his whole career.
You know as well as me Eubanks is a quality fighter and Saunders beat a quality fighter who will fight for a world title soon. Eubanks is quality and Saunders out boxed him in the early rounds. I though Junior may have sneaked it but credit should be given to Saunders.
Yes but my point was to greenbeanz that Fury has faced and beaten world ranked fighters, ex world title challengers etc Saunders hasn't.
LMFAO and what unbeaten fighter has Fury fought that will go beyond the level they were at? Pajkic? Naacimento? Chisora maybe did. Eubank will likely do a hell of a lot more than any of them did as will John Ryder who I expect to challenge for a world title in his career. At least hes fighting real unbeaten fighters. The bums Fury flies over are nothing more then part time gym boxers looking for a quick few quid.
