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Every single day , I'm hearing a different quote from him about Mayweather, his Dad, his Uncle, his gameplan,his pet rabbit , he's fucking obsessed! Everybody else involved are just getting on with it and you don't hear a thing. He ain't getting no reaction from anyone and is just continually ranting on! How is he gonna keep this horseshit up for the next 6 weeks? and is his focus right?
I think he's trying to play mind games but it isn't working because he's coming out with utter horse shite.
Looks desperate
I think he has a microphone under his nose everyday then he will say something silly. That is what is picked out.
Yeah I understand that, but everybody else has those microphones stuffed under their noses , and are saying nothing. I can only think it's a poor effort at mind games that is making him look desperate. not dissimilar to Oscar and his fuckin blueprint that he took out of the vault and gave to Canelo. And then when it came to fight night , Oscar's in rehab watching the fight in his best Summer Frock!Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Thats just freddy. Manny doesn't talk as much so freddy compensates by over talking. Not to mention he knows Floyd gets easily mentally irked outside of the ring. From his reading, to his significant others , to whatever else he gets easily mentally taxed and insecure about himself, which is why he overspends to make himself feel better. Brian Kenny on Friday night fights used to do it all the time. He just loved pressing floyds buttons and floyd would start stammering and etc.
We all know floyds not coming to lose so as far as making him mad or whatever, its not going to make him any greater in the ring by inspiring him in any way. He's already deathly afraid of losing his 0 enough to spend 1000 dollars on all his meals ..so he's already got the inspiration he needs. So you pick at him..little by little and wear him down mentally, emotionally.... any little thing you can do to distress him... maybe he doesnt sleep so much or eat enough or even fight at a calm or emotionless pace. If you're up against a guy who doesn't make many mistakes, you force him too.
Floyd just keeps putting himself out there and giving freddy ammo.. Floyds always played the bad guy in his conferences, talking about other fighters and etc. So he's never really had to worry about anyone else being the aggressor. The funny thing is Floyd claims he has the mental edge because hes never been beaten before, but hes deathly afraid of losing his 0, pacquiao has pretty much stated what happens to him in the ring is the way god intended it and he's ok with that.
To put things in perspective. Lets look at the RJJ's fights against Tarver. Tarver, a southpaw, trained by Mcgirt (who had a hard on for jones and claimed he always knew how to and had a plan to beat him). Roy was drained the first time. Then came all the talk and taunting of Jones before the second fight. Is it an identical situation, no but it goes to show what an obsessed trainer and a guy who could carry out that plan could do in the right window of opportunity at a point in a guys career where he was ripe, even though he was viewed unbeatable. Talking got jones to come back down when he couldnt find someone at heavyweight ,instead of just retiring. So Freddy would put something like that out there and let it fester in floyd's mind. He's doesnt expect to destroy floyd with any of these things. Just create specs of doubt where floyd does the rest to himself.
That's the thing about an argument. All it takes is one person to say something small and stupid and its like a splinter dug into the raw nerves of a persons insecurities. Like when theres a fight on and you're sitting there ready to go for the last 30 minutes.. now its getting good and someone just got knocked down and your lady's finally ready to go .... Now you go "you're going like that?" and she goes "what?" and you go nothing "i just....if you're ok with it, then..." and she goes "wait, i'll be right out" and heads back into the bedroom. You bought yourself and extra 20 minutes to watch and shes in there changing her dress, hair, jewelry and shoes when there was nothing wrong with her to begin with. It's all mind games. Little effort for a potentially big pay off..
hahah Oscar and that blueprint. I think he was drugged up when he made that blueprint because it hasn't worked for any fighterQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraYeah I understand that, but everybody else has those microphones stuffed under their noses , and are saying nothing. I can only think it's a poor effort at mind games that is making him look desperate. not dissimilar to Oscar and his fuckin blueprint that he took out of the vault and gave to Canelo. And then when it came to fight night , Oscar's in rehab watching the fight in his best Summer Frock!Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
To J-undisputed
Your point is logical if it is little educated comments that you know are effective. Freddie is carpet bombing hoping something hits. But if he does say the right thing because he has said so much the one good comment has lost value.
He's always saying crazy shit. Honestly, he should shut his mouth because he always ends up saying stupid shit.
For instance, take the DLH fight. Most people thought Manny was going to get killed, Manny pulls the big upset and hands DLH a beating. Instead of pumping his fighter up, saying "yeah we know DLH is a legend and it was going to be a tough fight but I was confident in my fighter's greatness", ect ect, he goes out and tells everyone that he saw that DLH couldn't pull the trigger anymore - that he was washed up - and that's why they took the fight. Why would you admit that?
Floyd says stupid crap too. All this talk is BS when it comes to the fight night.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
I like the artircle where Roach tells Pac :God don't give a F@#*k who wins..
Floyd used to be in that boat to where he would call his opponents C-level and bums, but I think finally someone pointed out to him "ok... that means you beat a bum."Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Did he throw in some anti-Semetic comments too?Quote:
Originally Posted by SlimTrae
Floyd would probably argue they are A level against normal opponents but it is he that makes them C level.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerFloyd used to be in that boat to where he would call his opponents C-level and bums, but I think finally someone pointed out to him "ok... that means you beat a bum."Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Floyd makes great fighters look C-level because Floyd is the greatest of all.
Or he is just handpicking C level fighters to protect his 0.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
My explanation is closer to the truth.
Of course he is. Like I said these are not carefully concocted plans. Freddy doesnt have time for that. Hes throwing crap at the wall to see what sticks. There's no direct line between freddy and floyd for freddy to start picking his brain. Freddy knows anything he says is going to blown up by the media and eventually be all over. Noone says it has to be true or even fair its just has to make its way to the people around floyd... Freddy comes out at the end of the day and says"floyds afraid of the dark ..." "Floyds got 3 testicles" ... "Floyd cant move his legs.." "FLoyd was dropped on his head as a baby" whatever the statement of the Day is.... and then its all over the internet the news papers.. etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Swanson
How ridiculous would it be for Freddy to come out and say Floyd is a sucker for an "upper hook"...cuz hes never seen one. "We've been practicing it all day every day...." Now Floyd at the movies or in the club whatever and people are asking him about the dreaded "upper hook" and how he plans to deal with it. His kids are bringing it home from school.... whatever. It took Freddy 2 seconds.. by the time it reaches Floyd it has exponentially more energy and stupidity behind it. If he flipped out because a lady in a barber shop didn't know who he was... how about everyone in the twitter universe, where he goes echoing the sentiment that he is going to be knocked out by a mythical punch that's never really used cuz hes never seen one. It took Freddy one second to blurt it out. Practically no effort at all... but it takes on a life of its own.
I know it sounds crazy that it could be that easy. But think about the things floyds lost his cool over ... His kids mother talking to some scrub from the lakers on the phone .. He assaulted her and took her phone in front of his children. brian kenny had him stammering. Arguments in front of the HBO camera because his dad took credit for his success. It doesn't take much to set him off.
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I'm just going to step aside from this one because I don't really buy into any of this soap opera drama. I don't believe that woman didn't know who he was, I think it was an obvious troll job. I don't believe Freddie's comments will have any effect on the outcome. Frankly I don't believe a word Freddie says, he's a confirmed anti-Semite racist liar.Quote:
Originally Posted by J_UndisputedOf course he is. Like I said these are not carefully concocted plans. Freddy doesnt have time for that. Hes throwing crap at the wall to see what sticks. There's no direct line between freddy and floyd for freddy to start picking his brain. Freddy knows anything he says is going to blown up by the media and eventually be all over. Noone says it has to be true or even fair its just has to make its way to the people around floyd... Freddy comes out at the end of the day and says"floyds afraid of the dark ..." "Floyds got 3 testicles" ... "Floyd cant move his legs.." "FLoyd was dropped on his head as a baby" whatever the statement of the Day is.... and then its all over the internet the news papers.. etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Swanson
How ridiculous would it be for Freddy to come out and say Floyd is a sucker for an "upper hook"...cuz hes never seen one. "We've been practicing it all day every day...." Now Floyd at the movies or in the club whatever and people are asking him about the dreaded "upper hook" and how he plans to deal with it. His kids are bringing it home from school.... whatever. It took Freddy 2 seconds.. by the time it reaches Floyd it has exponentially more energy and stupidity behind it. If he flipped out because a lady in a barber shop didn't know who he was... how about everyone in the twitter universe, where he goes echoing the sentiment that he is going to be knocked out by a mythical punch that's never really used cuz hes never seen one. It took Freddy one second to blurt it out. Practically no effort at all... but it takes on a life of its own.
I know it sounds crazy that it could be that easy. But think about the things floyds lost his cool over ... His kids mother talking to some scrub from the lakers on the phone .. He assaulted her and took her phone in front of his children. brian kenny had him stammering. Arguments in front of the HBO camera because his dad took credit for his success. It doesn't take much to set him off.
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If he feels he needs to carpet bomb nonsense it shows their weakness not Floyd's, or they wouldn't need to show themselves so desperate.
A better way would be to be quiet and confident and let Floyd be stupid, but with Freddie doing the stupid Floyd can concentrate on training.
I don't think he is a confirmed anti-semite racist liar. Can you get confirmed for that kind of thing? ;D You can't really judge his character from one solitary outburst in which nearly everyone was acting like an idiot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron SwansonI'm just going to step aside from this one because I don't really buy into any of this soap opera drama. I don't believe that woman didn't know who he was, I think it was an obvious troll job. I don't believe Freddie's comments will have any effect on the outcome. Frankly I don't believe a word Freddie says, he's a confirmed anti-Semite racist liar.Quote:
Originally Posted by J_UndisputedOf course he is. Like I said these are not carefully concocted plans. Freddy doesnt have time for that. Hes throwing crap at the wall to see what sticks. There's no direct line between freddy and floyd for freddy to start picking his brain. Freddy knows anything he says is going to blown up by the media and eventually be all over. Noone says it has to be true or even fair its just has to make its way to the people around floyd... Freddy comes out at the end of the day and says"floyds afraid of the dark ..." "Floyds got 3 testicles" ... "Floyd cant move his legs.." "FLoyd was dropped on his head as a baby" whatever the statement of the Day is.... and then its all over the internet the news papers.. etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Swanson
How ridiculous would it be for Freddy to come out and say Floyd is a sucker for an "upper hook"...cuz hes never seen one. "We've been practicing it all day every day...." Now Floyd at the movies or in the club whatever and people are asking him about the dreaded "upper hook" and how he plans to deal with it. His kids are bringing it home from school.... whatever. It took Freddy 2 seconds.. by the time it reaches Floyd it has exponentially more energy and stupidity behind it. If he flipped out because a lady in a barber shop didn't know who he was... how about everyone in the twitter universe, where he goes echoing the sentiment that he is going to be knocked out by a mythical punch that's never really used cuz hes never seen one. It took Freddy one second to blurt it out. Practically no effort at all... but it takes on a life of its own.
I know it sounds crazy that it could be that easy. But think about the things floyds lost his cool over ... His kids mother talking to some scrub from the lakers on the phone .. He assaulted her and took her phone in front of his children. brian kenny had him stammering. Arguments in front of the HBO camera because his dad took credit for his success. It doesn't take much to set him off.
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If he feels he needs to carpet bomb nonsense it shows their weakness not Floyd's, or they wouldn't need to show themselves so desperate.
A better way would be to be quiet and confident and let Floyd be stupid, but with Freddie doing the stupid Floyd can concentrate on training.
Floyd likes it. The more people talk about him the happier he is. So if Roach thinks he's bothering him, he's mistaken.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
IT's not very difficult; he's overtalking so the heat is directed toward him and not Manny. Which is pretty pretty smart actually. While they talk about him, Manny can focus quietly. Roach has been in the business since the dawn of dawns, he knows how it goes and what pressure is. He's just playing his violins accordingly.
True, he may as well throw as much shit as he can think of out there. I'm sure he's even under pressure to do so, Manny doesn't promote himself whatsoever after all. I don't think it affects a fighters standing much what is said before a fight either, only what happens in the ring. I'd like Floyd more if he'd stuck to his guns and kept calling everyone a C+ heavy bag or whatever, everyone know's he's a dick anyways and that's more entertaining than thanking jesus for a victory over a great competitor or whatever boring crap he spews.
Chaps it's all BS come on this is nothing new, when you have a mega fight the hype the sell
factor, Freddie or uncle Roger trying to string a sentence together all fun.;D
I heard him on some interview Monday (?) where he went on about Manny has real dislike for Mayweather because he is without morals or some shit. Repeated 'he is not a good person' about 20 times.
Floyd should start coming to press conferences wearing horns and cloven hoof shoes. Or better yet enter the ring that way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
Anyway Roach should really consider shutting his pie-hole. He's a media whore that probably causes as many problems and distractions for his fighter as anything else.
And some of the stupid shit he says like "we dare Floyd to throw his favourite punch" is borderline retarded.
Floyd reminds me of one of those guys who feel it is better to be talked about badly, then not not be talked about at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by beenKOedFloyd likes it. The more people talk about him the happier he is. So if Roach thinks he's bothering him, he's mistaken.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
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Originally Posted by SlimTrae
The only thing he said that actually makes sense.
Freddie was also on record saying that floyds legs wont handle canelos youth...what happened in that fight?
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Originally Posted by Ron SwansonI'm just going to step aside from this one because I don't really buy into any of this soap opera drama. I don't believe that woman didn't know who he was, I think it was an obvious troll job. I don't believe Freddie's comments will have any effect on the outcome. Frankly I don't believe a word Freddie says, he's a confirmed anti-Semite racist liar.Quote:
Originally Posted by J_UndisputedOf course he is. Like I said these are not carefully concocted plans. Freddy doesnt have time for that. Hes throwing crap at the wall to see what sticks. There's no direct line between freddy and floyd for freddy to start picking his brain. Freddy knows anything he says is going to blown up by the media and eventually be all over. Noone says it has to be true or even fair its just has to make its way to the people around floyd... Freddy comes out at the end of the day and says"floyds afraid of the dark ..." "Floyds got 3 testicles" ... "Floyd cant move his legs.." "FLoyd was dropped on his head as a baby" whatever the statement of the Day is.... and then its all over the internet the news papers.. etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Swanson
How ridiculous would it be for Freddy to come out and say Floyd is a sucker for an "upper hook"...cuz hes never seen one. "We've been practicing it all day every day...." Now Floyd at the movies or in the club whatever and people are asking him about the dreaded "upper hook" and how he plans to deal with it. His kids are bringing it home from school.... whatever. It took Freddy 2 seconds.. by the time it reaches Floyd it has exponentially more energy and stupidity behind it. If he flipped out because a lady in a barber shop didn't know who he was... how about everyone in the twitter universe, where he goes echoing the sentiment that he is going to be knocked out by a mythical punch that's never really used cuz hes never seen one. It took Freddy one second to blurt it out. Practically no effort at all... but it takes on a life of its own.
I know it sounds crazy that it could be that easy. But think about the things floyds lost his cool over ... His kids mother talking to some scrub from the lakers on the phone .. He assaulted her and took her phone in front of his children. brian kenny had him stammering. Arguments in front of the HBO camera because his dad took credit for his success. It doesn't take much to set him off.
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If he feels he needs to carpet bomb nonsense it shows their weakness not Floyd's, or they wouldn't need to show themselves so desperate.
A better way would be to be quiet and confident and let Floyd be stupid, but with Freddie doing the stupid Floyd can concentrate on training.
Floyd came to Jackson a while back as a guest at the Sports Hall of Fame. I had an invite but declined to attend. Apparantly there were not more than 12 people to meet him 4 of them didn't have a clue who he was. Outside of boxing no one knows or wants to know who he is.