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When Marciano put them gloves on, he went out at the bell and gave his heart and soul, EVERY SECOND OF EVERY ROUND. Every punch he tried to knock you out. He never took any time "OFF" during a round, he never "BURNT THE CLOCK" during any round.
What a true warrior. 49-0. TBE.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9FzgHrReUM
You are right, it was all or nothing with Marciano. I think he probably knew it wasn't the smartest way to fight but it was something he couldn't or wouldn't control. It was who he was, obviously.
Watching that maniac chop down his opponents 3 minutes of every round is an amazing thing to see. Very often by the 5th round he was well behind on points and then when the fight was about halfway through his steady maniacal pressure and his unwavering and unbending mental strength and focus started to take a heavy toll on his opponents. He would then start to systematically butcher and bludgeon and blast 3 minutes of every round... the man was an unstoppable force of nature truly earning the name the BlockbusterQuote:
Originally Posted by beenKOed
Marciano would certainly blast the living s*** out of modern day fighters simply through to undeniable Waze. First and foremost his conditioning and stamina will beyond the people's wildest imaginations. Archie Moore said that Rocky Marciano had far far more stamina than any other fighter in any weight class. I think Archie Moore knows what he is talking about. Unless we want to go with the opinions of people like Lamon Brewster or Dominic Quinn or deontay wilder.
I think I will go with what Archie Moore said.
Also Rocky Marciano busted up anything that he could hit. Even glancing blows would knock his opponent out.... cold cocked in the freezer.
Marciano fought bums for over half his career.
His record against real opposition is 18-0.
18-0 with about 15 KOs............. not too shabby, eh?Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless rocco
@Dia bando can you count the punches?
@walrus who throws this many these days?
@Gandalf does this inspire you?
@TitoFan check out the energy level!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqQOBa4bCV0
Rocky reminds me of a baseball player with a bomb of a susy q in his hands.
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Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust18-0 with about 15 KOs............. not too shabby, eh?Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless rocco
The question is whether he fought bums because a) that's all that was available at the time, or whether b) he fought bums while running from better fighters. I'd guess the answer is "a", so it's academic, really. He fought what was available. He may not have been a smooth boxer, but he was fierce and constantly pressed the action, making him a huge crowd favorite.
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This pathetic list is only an example of the shit competition Marciano fought.
These were fights 28-35 in his "legendary" career.
His first 24 fights were equally terrible.
Surely 49-0-0 ain't that hard if all you face is garbage...
Rocky Marciano
Like an Old Northeast Football Team with a 'bruiser' Fullback.
Every play 4-Yards, and a bowl-of-dust.
He just kept coming forward, daring you to stop him.
And, you couldn't.
https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/i...TT-BUAYwv5Hs2Q
He fought what was there, Mister Dingleberry. Plus he did it in half the time Floyd did. Think about it, the man was a warhorse, a pitbull, a fighting machine, a dynamo, and probably didn't think about complaining.Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless rocco
Who?
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Originally Posted by beenKOedHe fought what was there, Mister Dingleberry. Plus he did it in half the time Floyd did. Think about it, the man was a warhorse, a pitbull, a fighting machine, a dynamo, and probably didn't think about complaining.Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless rocco
WOW!!! He was so great he beat a bunch of shit filled tomato cans in half the time huh?
Congratulations to him and you! He's the perfect hero for all you dim witted losers!
It would be nice to know how he would have done against decent competition. Many aggressive fighters have no plan B. They look great against weak opposition, like on Rocky's CV, but have no answer when things don't go their way. Rocky dominated his weak opposition though, good for him.
Good to see you finally telling some truth about Mayweather at the end of your post.Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless rocco
I have no issue with Marciano's career. He fought some bums and he fought some very good fighters. Unlike Mayweather he couldn't run up and down the weights avoiding fighters, he just fought who he could in the division available to him a little bit like Wlad does today.
Marciano was a limited HW in that he wasn't very big or tall or technical, but he always found a way and you have to respect that. I respect Mayweather in a similar way, but think he cherry picked the last decade of his career and is plain boring and ugly to watch.
Rocky 49 wins not defeats, hell of a record tough SOB's back then they fought once or twice a month
not one or twice a year, like this bunch now a human pit bull old Rocky.:)
The weird thing with Marciano is that his toughest competition was not only old, but also small. For some reason all of the big HWs had taken a break for a while. Not that size is everything but he was pretty small and fortunate he didn't fight a decade later against guys 20-30 pounds bigger than him.
Well said sir. Everyone knows, I've said it before, Marciano couldn't have fought competitively against the big heavyweights that began appearing in the 60s.Quote:
Originally Posted by GandalfGood to see you finally telling some truth about Mayweather at the end of your post.Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless rocco
I have no issue with Marciano's career. He fought some bums and he fought some very good fighters. Unlike Mayweather he couldn't run up and down the weights avoiding fighters, he just fought who he could in the division available to him a little bit like Wlad does today.
Marciano was a limited HW in that he wasn't very big or tall or technical, but he always found a way and you have to respect that. I respect Mayweather in a similar way, but think he cherry picked the last decade of his career and is plain boring and ugly to watch.
He would be fighting as a cruiserweight today. Who knows if he fought once a year and had a good conditioning coach he might even be able to catchweight a fight at super middleweight. Hell, Joe Frazier was taller than Marciano!
He was lucky enough to fight when he did and he made the most of it, what more can you ask of a fighter?
Most pro fighters start out fighting tomato cans as some call them, it will probably be that way forever, how else could they become experienced? Did Marciano ever say he was the best ever?
Floyd Mayweather is a different can of worms altogether. Floyd tells everyone who will listen he is the best ever. That makes him fair game for everyone. That's an invitation to one an all to discuss his greatness and every piece of F*CKERY he pulled during his career. Floyd has accomplished more in boxing than any other fighter so far, nobody can argue about that, but is he the best ever in the ring? That's under discussion.
How many atg's Floyd beat?
When did he fight them?
What were the circumstances?
How many of Floyds opponents would make it through to the top in pasts eras?
Statistics are there to serve other statistics. Attempting to ridicule one ATG to make the case for another is a slippery slope.
Not sure why Floyd is being brought into this thread...
His haters are just obsessed with him and can't stop mentioning him.
That's a bit of F*CKERY😀 known as the switcheroo!Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless rocco
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Originally Posted by GandalfGood to see you finally telling some truth about Mayweather at the end of your post.Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless rocco
I have no issue with Marciano's career. He fought some bums and he fought some very good fighters. Unlike Mayweather he couldn't run up and down the weights avoiding fighters, he just fought who he could in the division available to him a little bit like Wlad does today.
Marciano was a limited HW in that he wasn't very big or tall or technical, but he always found a way and you have to respect that. I respect Mayweather in a similar way, but think he cherry picked the last decade of his career and is plain boring and ugly to watch.
You know..... Miles talks a lot of shit.
But this is an excellent post. ;D
Seriously though....
No hate... no bias... no lack of objectivity.
He gives both Marciano and Mayweather their props, but mentions their limitations also.
I guess that's what you get when you're not emotionally vested (love or hate) with a fighter.
You go.... @Gandalf !! ;D
Marciano fought mostly bums.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by GandalfGood to see you finally telling some truth about Mayweather at the end of your post.Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless rocco
I have no issue with Marciano's career. He fought some bums and he fought some very good fighters. Unlike Mayweather he couldn't run up and down the weights avoiding fighters, he just fought who he could in the division available to him a little bit like Wlad does today.
Marciano was a limited HW in that he wasn't very big or tall or technical, but he always found a way and you have to respect that. I respect Mayweather in a similar way, but think he cherry picked the last decade of his career and is plain boring and ugly to watch.
You know..... Miles talks a lot of shit.
But this is an excellent post. ;D
Seriously though....
No hate... no bias... no lack of objectivity.
He gives both Marciano and Mayweather their props, but mentions their limitations also.
I guess that's what you get when you're not emotionally vested (love or hate) with a fighter.
You go.... @Gandalf !! ;D
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Originally Posted by ruthless roccoMarciano fought mostly bums.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by GandalfGood to see you finally telling some truth about Mayweather at the end of your post.Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless rocco
I have no issue with Marciano's career. He fought some bums and he fought some very good fighters. Unlike Mayweather he couldn't run up and down the weights avoiding fighters, he just fought who he could in the division available to him a little bit like Wlad does today.
Marciano was a limited HW in that he wasn't very big or tall or technical, but he always found a way and you have to respect that. I respect Mayweather in a similar way, but think he cherry picked the last decade of his career and is plain boring and ugly to watch.
You know..... Miles talks a lot of shit.
But this is an excellent post. ;D
Seriously though....
No hate... no bias... no lack of objectivity.
He gives both Marciano and Mayweather their props, but mentions their limitations also.
I guess that's what you get when you're not emotionally vested (love or hate) with a fighter.
You go.... @Gandalf !! ;D
Did he ever duck anybody who was available? (Serious question)
That's what tells the story for me.
You see... if they're mostly bums, as you put it, it takes away from the necessary skill level to have remained undefeated throughout his career. But it doesn't take away from his greatness, because you have to look at him in the context of his era. Let's say he was lucky enough not to have crossed paths with someone of greater skill... or heart... or power... etc.
It takes away from his greatness because he fought very little great opposition!!Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by ruthless roccoMarciano fought mostly bums.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by GandalfGood to see you finally telling some truth about Mayweather at the end of your post.Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless rocco
I have no issue with Marciano's career. He fought some bums and he fought some very good fighters. Unlike Mayweather he couldn't run up and down the weights avoiding fighters, he just fought who he could in the division available to him a little bit like Wlad does today.
Marciano was a limited HW in that he wasn't very big or tall or technical, but he always found a way and you have to respect that. I respect Mayweather in a similar way, but think he cherry picked the last decade of his career and is plain boring and ugly to watch.
You know..... Miles talks a lot of shit.
But this is an excellent post. ;D
Seriously though....
No hate... no bias... no lack of objectivity.
He gives both Marciano and Mayweather their props, but mentions their limitations also.
I guess that's what you get when you're not emotionally vested (love or hate) with a fighter.
You go.... @Gandalf !! ;D
Did he ever duck anybody who was available? (Serious question)
That's what tells the story for me.
You see... if they're mostly bums, as you put it, it takes away from the necessary skill level to have remained undefeated throughout his career. But it doesn't take away from his greatness, because you have to look at him in the context of his era. Let's say he was lucky enough not to have crossed paths with someone of greater skill... or heart... or power... etc.
He was around in a era where there were only bums... So he can only be regarded as Undefeated King of the Bums.
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Originally Posted by ruthless roccoIt takes away from his greatness because he fought very little great opposition!!Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by ruthless roccoMarciano fought mostly bums.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by GandalfGood to see you finally telling some truth about Mayweather at the end of your post.Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless rocco
I have no issue with Marciano's career. He fought some bums and he fought some very good fighters. Unlike Mayweather he couldn't run up and down the weights avoiding fighters, he just fought who he could in the division available to him a little bit like Wlad does today.
Marciano was a limited HW in that he wasn't very big or tall or technical, but he always found a way and you have to respect that. I respect Mayweather in a similar way, but think he cherry picked the last decade of his career and is plain boring and ugly to watch.
You know..... Miles talks a lot of shit.
But this is an excellent post. ;D
Seriously though....
No hate... no bias... no lack of objectivity.
He gives both Marciano and Mayweather their props, but mentions their limitations also.
I guess that's what you get when you're not emotionally vested (love or hate) with a fighter.
You go.... @Gandalf !! ;D
Did he ever duck anybody who was available? (Serious question)
That's what tells the story for me.
You see... if they're mostly bums, as you put it, it takes away from the necessary skill level to have remained undefeated throughout his career. But it doesn't take away from his greatness, because you have to look at him in the context of his era. Let's say he was lucky enough not to have crossed paths with someone of greater skill... or heart... or power... etc.
He was around in a era where there were only bums... So he can only be regarded as Undefeated King of the Bums.
Out of curiosity.... how do you rate Wladimir Klitschko?
King of the Present Day Bums!Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by ruthless roccoIt takes away from his greatness because he fought very little great opposition!!Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by ruthless roccoMarciano fought mostly bums.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by GandalfGood to see you finally telling some truth about Mayweather at the end of your post.Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless rocco
I have no issue with Marciano's career. He fought some bums and he fought some very good fighters. Unlike Mayweather he couldn't run up and down the weights avoiding fighters, he just fought who he could in the division available to him a little bit like Wlad does today.
Marciano was a limited HW in that he wasn't very big or tall or technical, but he always found a way and you have to respect that. I respect Mayweather in a similar way, but think he cherry picked the last decade of his career and is plain boring and ugly to watch.
You know..... Miles talks a lot of shit.
But this is an excellent post. ;D
Seriously though....
No hate... no bias... no lack of objectivity.
He gives both Marciano and Mayweather their props, but mentions their limitations also.
I guess that's what you get when you're not emotionally vested (love or hate) with a fighter.
You go.... @Gandalf !! ;D
Did he ever duck anybody who was available? (Serious question)
That's what tells the story for me.
You see... if they're mostly bums, as you put it, it takes away from the necessary skill level to have remained undefeated throughout his career. But it doesn't take away from his greatness, because you have to look at him in the context of his era. Let's say he was lucky enough not to have crossed paths with someone of greater skill... or heart... or power... etc.
He was around in a era where there were only bums... So he can only be regarded as Undefeated King of the Bums.
Out of curiosity.... how do you rate Wladimir Klitschko?