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The 2nd British fighter to win the Ring magazine fighter of the year is.....
Tyson Fury!
What a year for the big man;D
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Fenster
Ricky Hatton won that.
Your right!
First British/Irish then!;D
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I assume you no longer regard The Ring writers as a bunch of biased know nothings?
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The Ring has a financial interest. Publications and the media are mostly made up of no nothings like this forum who are just expressing an opinion which is generally biased.
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I assume you no longer regard The Ring writers as a bunch of biased know nothings?
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ross
The Ring has a financial interest. Publications and the media are mostly made up of no nothings like this forum who are just expressing an opinion which is generally biased.
Yes they are biased which makes Tyson winning it even more impressive dont you think?
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Not really. There's only two Golden Boy fighters on that list. A case for Fury can be made.
FIGHT OF THE YEAR
Francisco Vargas KO 9 Takashi Miura
KNOCKOUT OF THE YEAR
Canelo Alvarez KO 3 James Kirkland
ROUND OF THE YEAR
Amir Imam vs. Fidel Maldonado Jr., Round 3
UPSET OF THE YEAR
Tyson Fury UD 12 Wladimir Klitschko
COMEBACK OF THE YEAR
Badou Jack
TRAINER OF THE YEAR
Joe Gallagher
PROSPECT OF THE YEAR
Takuma Inoue
EVENT OF THE YEAR
Floyd Mayweather Jr. UD 12 Manny Pacquiao
MOST INSPIRATIONAL
Anthony Crolla
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This is a great achievement and good recognition from the Ring magazine. Fury should be proud.
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He deserves it, that was a good win; the fight was ugly as sin, but that was not Fury's fault! IMO. ;D
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[QUOTE=Fenster;1369991]Not really. There's only two Golden Boy fighters on that list. A case for Fury can be made.
FIGHT OF THE YEAR
Francisco Vargas KO 9 Takashi Miura
KNOCKOUT OF THE YEAR
Canelo Alvarez KO 3 James Kirkland
ROUND OF THE YEAR
Amir Imam vs. Fidel Maldonado Jr., Round 3
UPSET OF THE YEAR
Tyson Fury UD 12 Wladimir Klitschko
COMEBACK OF THE YEAR
Badou Jack
TRAINER OF THE YEAR
Joe Gallagher
PROSPECT OF THE YEAR
Takuma Inoue
EVENT OF THE YEAR
Floyd Mayweather Jr. UD 12 Manny Pacquiao
MOST INSPIRATIONAL
Anthony Crolla[
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You missed one , but I've corrected it for you. Congratulations to all the winners.
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[QUOTE=Primo Carnera;1370014]
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Not really. There's only two Golden Boy fighters on that list. A case for Fury can be made.
FIGHT OF THE YEAR
Francisco Vargas KO 9 Takashi Miura
KNOCKOUT OF THE YEAR
Canelo Alvarez KO 3 James Kirkland
ROUND OF THE YEAR
Amir Imam vs. Fidel Maldonado Jr., Round 3
UPSET OF THE YEAR
Tyson Fury UD 12 Wladimir Klitschko
COMEBACK OF THE YEAR
Badou Jack
TRAINER OF THE YEAR
Joe Gallagher
PROSPECT OF THE YEAR
Takuma Inoue
EVENT OF THE YEAR
Floyd Mayweather Jr. UD 12 Manny Pacquiao
MOST INSPIRATIONAL
Anthony Crolla[
QUICKEST EJACULATION AFTER HEARING THIS NEWS.
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ross 😂😂😂/QUOTE]
You missed one , but I've corrected it for you. Congratulations to all the winners.
Two congratulations from Primo! Tyson really has made it;D
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Fenster
Not really. There's only two Golden Boy fighters on that list. A case for Fury can be made.
FIGHT OF THE YEAR
Francisco Vargas KO 9 Takashi Miura
KNOCKOUT OF THE YEAR
Canelo Alvarez KO 3 James Kirkland
ROUND OF THE YEAR
Amir Imam vs. Fidel Maldonado Jr., Round 3
UPSET OF THE YEAR
Tyson Fury UD 12 Wladimir Klitschko
COMEBACK OF THE YEAR
Badou Jack
TRAINER OF THE YEAR
Joe Gallagher
PROSPECT OF THE YEAR
Takuma Inoue
EVENT OF THE YEAR
Floyd Mayweather Jr. UD 12 Manny Pacquiao
MOST INSPIRATIONAL
Anthony Crolla[
QUICKEST EJACULATION AFTER HEARING THIS NEWS.
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ross 😂😂😂/QUOTE]
You missed one , but I've corrected it for you. Congratulations to all the winners.
Two congratulations from Primo! Tyson really has made it;D
Yeah, sorry about that , I also got over excited!😂😂 I've deleted one now.
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[QUOTE=Primo Carnera;1370024]
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Primo Carnera
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Fenster
Not really. There's only two Golden Boy fighters on that list. A case for Fury can be made.
FIGHT OF THE YEAR
Francisco Vargas KO 9 Takashi Miura
KNOCKOUT OF THE YEAR
Canelo Alvarez KO 3 James Kirkland
ROUND OF THE YEAR
Amir Imam vs. Fidel Maldonado Jr., Round 3
UPSET OF THE YEAR
Tyson Fury UD 12 Wladimir Klitschko
COMEBACK OF THE YEAR
Badou Jack
TRAINER OF THE YEAR
Joe Gallagher
PROSPECT OF THE YEAR
Takuma Inoue
EVENT OF THE YEAR
Floyd Mayweather Jr. UD 12 Manny Pacquiao
MOST INSPIRATIONAL
Anthony Crolla[
QUICKEST EJACULATION AFTER HEARING THIS NEWS.
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ross 😂😂😂/QUOTE]
You missed one , but I've corrected it for you. Congratulations to all the winners.
Two congratulations from Primo! Tyson really has made it;D
Yeah, sorry about that , I also got over excited!😂😂 I've deleted one now.
Yeah im not the sort to pick at grammar and shit posting skills as we all make mistakes but if you are congratulating all the Rings winners then Tyson won twice, biggest upset and best fighter;)
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[QUOTE=ross;1370040]
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Primo Carnera
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Originally Posted by
ross
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Originally Posted by
Primo Carnera
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Fenster
Not really. There's only two Golden Boy fighters on that list. A case for Fury can be made.
FIGHT OF THE YEAR
Francisco Vargas KO 9 Takashi Miura
KNOCKOUT OF THE YEAR
Canelo Alvarez KO 3 James Kirkland
ROUND OF THE YEAR
Amir Imam vs. Fidel Maldonado Jr., Round 3
UPSET OF THE YEAR
Tyson Fury UD 12 Wladimir Klitschko
COMEBACK OF THE YEAR
Badou Jack
TRAINER OF THE YEAR
Joe Gallagher
PROSPECT OF THE YEAR
Takuma Inoue
EVENT OF THE YEAR
Floyd Mayweather Jr. UD 12 Manny Pacquiao
MOST INSPIRATIONAL
Anthony Crolla[
QUICKEST EJACULATION AFTER HEARING THIS NEWS.
@
ross 😂😂😂/QUOTE]
You missed one , but I've corrected it for you. Congratulations to all the winners.
Two congratulations from Primo! Tyson really has made it;D
Yeah, sorry about that , I also got over excited!😂😂 I've deleted one now.
Yeah im not the sort to pick at grammar and shit posting skills as we all make mistakes but if you are congratulating all the Rings winners then Tyson won twice, biggest upset and best fighter;)
Yes ,you are correct. Bit of crossed wires here, when you said 2 congratulations I thought you meant I posted it twice, which I did, but I've deleted one of the duplicates. So that would've been 4 congratulations! Fuck I'm confusing myself now! ;D
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That's hard to believe when you think on it. The first? At the rate at which Brits are collecting trinkets he won't be the last. On a side, Canelo v Kirkland ko of year says more about inner promotion than it does anything. Who didn't see that detonation coming?
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That's hard to believe when you think on it. The first? At the rate at which Brits are collecting trinkets he won't be the last. On a side, Canelo v Kirkland ko of year says more about inner promotion than it does anything. Who didn't see that detonation coming?
Exactly what I was saying about fighters with connections getting unfairly rated higher.
Makes Tyson winning the top spot even better as hes the least connected fighter and probably most hated on that list. He has been awarded on pure merit.
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ross
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Spicoli
That's hard to believe when you think on it. The first? At the rate at which Brits are collecting trinkets he won't be the last. On a side, Canelo v Kirkland ko of year says more about inner promotion than it does anything. Who didn't see that detonation coming?
Exactly what I was saying about fighters with connections getting unfairly rated higher.
Makes Tyson winning the top spot even better as hes the least connected fighter and probably most hated on that list. He has been awarded on pure merit.
yeah but how many K2 fighters have made it on the list
or even german based fighters
perhaps theres a bias against them
and now their crown jewel was just toppled the ring are rubbing their faces in it
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Either this thread title should be changed to 'the second British fighter ever....' or the first post should say Ricky Hatton.
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Re: The first British fighter to ever win the Ring magazine fighter of the year is...
The 2nd post said Ricky Hatton.
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erics44
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ross
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Spicoli
That's hard to believe when you think on it. The first? At the rate at which Brits are collecting trinkets he won't be the last. On a side, Canelo v Kirkland ko of year says more about inner promotion than it does anything. Who didn't see that detonation coming?
Exactly what I was saying about fighters with connections getting unfairly rated higher.
Makes Tyson winning the top spot even better as hes the least connected fighter and probably most hated on that list. He has been awarded on pure merit.
yeah but how many K2 fighters have made it on the list
or even german based fighters
perhaps theres a bias against them
and now their crown jewel was just toppled the ring are rubbing their faces in it
I don't really mean that btw
im not really arsed
im glad wlad is no longer champ, what a large part of my adult life without a credible HW division
fury deserves the award just for putting an end to that
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Its interesting that the heavyweights have done historically very well. Most of the multiple winners have been heavyweights.
36 times a heavyweight has won it. Only two years in the 70's did a nne heavyweight win it. It was shared between Ali, Frazier and Foreman.
Tyson unifies against Wilder and wins fighter of the year this year also.
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You can assess the information different to that.
Fury is the first heavyweight to win for 19 years.
Maybe it shows how weak the heavyweight division has been in recent times, or maybe how strong the heavyweight division was in the past, or maybe the heavyweight division is no longer seen as the glamour divison, as it definitely was in the past.
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Fenster
You can assess the information different to that.
Fury is the first heavyweight to win for 19 years.
Maybe it shows how weak the heavyweight division has been in recent times, or maybe how strong the heavyweight division was in the past, or maybe the heavyweight division is no longer seen as the glamour divison, as it definitely was in the past.
I personally think its as much to do with America having little in the way of world class heavies over recent years. You need americans in their for their networks to throw promotion behind and create that "glamour" again.
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ross
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Fenster
You can assess the information different to that.
Fury is the first heavyweight to win for 19 years.
Maybe it shows how weak the heavyweight division has been in recent times, or maybe how strong the heavyweight division was in the past, or maybe the heavyweight division is no longer seen as the glamour divison, as it definitely was in the past.
I personally think its as much to do with America having little in the way of world class heavies over recent years. You need americans in their for their networks to throw promotion behind and create that "glamour" again.
I think its because wlad klit was allowed to cheat for so long
had they had have applied the rules to his fights his reign would have been a lot shorter
in fact he may never have won it when he did, he should have been dq'd early in the sam peter fight
maybe then other stars would have emerged
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Re: The 2nd British fighter to win the Ring magazine fighter of the year is.....
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erics44
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Originally Posted by
ross
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
You can assess the information different to that.
Fury is the first heavyweight to win for 19 years.
Maybe it shows how weak the heavyweight division has been in recent times, or maybe how strong the heavyweight division was in the past, or maybe the heavyweight division is no longer seen as the glamour divison, as it definitely was in the past.
I personally think its as much to do with America having little in the way of world class heavies over recent years. You need americans in their for their networks to throw promotion behind and create that "glamour" again.
I think its because wlad klit was allowed to cheat for so long
had they had have applied the rules to his fights his reign would have been a lot shorter
in fact he may never have won it when he did, he should have been dq'd early in the sam peter fight
maybe then other stars would have emerged
Yes he did hug and hold but if your good enough you shouldnt be allowing him to. Tyson didnt but everyone else did for the past 11 years.
Even Jennings an american fighter fighting in america with the ref not allowing it couldnt do anything and spent too much of the fight being too defensive to win any rounds. Wlad hasnt suddently become a one trick pony just because Fury was massively better than anyone wanted to give him credit for. If the fight had been postponed until February the general opinion would still be that Wlad is too good for everyone.
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ross
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
You can assess the information different to that.
Fury is the first heavyweight to win for 19 years.
Maybe it shows how weak the heavyweight division has been in recent times, or maybe how strong the heavyweight division was in the past, or maybe the heavyweight division is no longer seen as the glamour divison, as it definitely was in the past.
I personally think its as much to do with
America having little in the way of world class heavies over recent years. You need americans in their for their networks to throw promotion behind and create that "glamour" again.
Bingo !
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ross
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Originally Posted by
erics44
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Originally Posted by
ross
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
You can assess the information different to that.
Fury is the first heavyweight to win for 19 years.
Maybe it shows how weak the heavyweight division has been in recent times, or maybe how strong the heavyweight division was in the past, or maybe the heavyweight division is no longer seen as the glamour divison, as it definitely was in the past.
I personally think its as much to do with America having little in the way of world class heavies over recent years. You need americans in their for their networks to throw promotion behind and create that "glamour" again.
I think its because wlad klit was allowed to cheat for so long
had they had have applied the rules to his fights his reign would have been a lot shorter
in fact he may never have won it when he did, he should have been dq'd early in the sam peter fight
maybe then other stars would have emerged
Yes he did hug and hold
but if your good enough you shouldnt be allowing him to. Tyson didnt but everyone else did for the past 11 years.
Even Jennings an american fighter fighting in america with the ref not allowing it couldnt do anything and spent too much of the fight being too defensive to win any rounds. Wlad hasnt suddently become a one trick pony just because Fury was massively better than anyone wanted to give him credit for. If the fight had been postponed until February the general opinion would still be that Wlad is too good for everyone.
that's stupid logic
holding and leaning is against the rules
its like saying, he kicked a lot but if you were good enough you shouldn't have allowed him to do it
most HW were smaller than him so it was miles harder for them to stop him doing it than it was for a bigger fella
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erics44
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Originally Posted by
ross
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Originally Posted by
erics44
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Originally Posted by
ross
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
You can assess the information different to that.
Fury is the first heavyweight to win for 19 years.
Maybe it shows how weak the heavyweight division has been in recent times, or maybe how strong the heavyweight division was in the past, or maybe the heavyweight division is no longer seen as the glamour divison, as it definitely was in the past.
I personally think its as much to do with America having little in the way of world class heavies over recent years. You need americans in their for their networks to throw promotion behind and create that "glamour" again.
I think its because wlad klit was allowed to cheat for so long
had they had have applied the rules to his fights his reign would have been a lot shorter
in fact he may never have won it when he did, he should have been dq'd early in the sam peter fight
maybe then other stars would have emerged
Yes he did hug and hold
but if your good enough you shouldnt be allowing him to. Tyson didnt but everyone else did for the past 11 years.
Even Jennings an american fighter fighting in america with the ref not allowing it couldnt do anything and spent too much of the fight being too defensive to win any rounds. Wlad hasnt suddently become a one trick pony just because Fury was massively better than anyone wanted to give him credit for. If the fight had been postponed until February the general opinion would still be that Wlad is too good for everyone.
that's stupid logic
holding and leaning is against the rules
its like saying, he kicked a lot but if you were good enough you shouldn't have allowed him to do it
most HW were smaller than him so it was miles harder for them to stop him doing it than it was for a bigger fella
Alot of them invited it. While Klitschko was holding and leaning he wasnt landing that big right hand or left hook. Look at Haye for instance! He tried using it as a tactic to get points deducted from him but it backfired!
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ross
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erics44
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Originally Posted by
ross
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Originally Posted by
erics44
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Originally Posted by
ross
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
You can assess the information different to that.
Fury is the first heavyweight to win for 19 years.
Maybe it shows how weak the heavyweight division has been in recent times, or maybe how strong the heavyweight division was in the past, or maybe the heavyweight division is no longer seen as the glamour divison, as it definitely was in the past.
I personally think its as much to do with America having little in the way of world class heavies over recent years. You need americans in their for their networks to throw promotion behind and create that "glamour" again.
I think its because wlad klit was allowed to cheat for so long
had they had have applied the rules to his fights his reign would have been a lot shorter
in fact he may never have won it when he did, he should have been dq'd early in the sam peter fight
maybe then other stars would have emerged
Yes he did hug and hold
but if your good enough you shouldnt be allowing him to. Tyson didnt but everyone else did for the past 11 years.
Even Jennings an american fighter fighting in america with the ref not allowing it couldnt do anything and spent too much of the fight being too defensive to win any rounds. Wlad hasnt suddently become a one trick pony just because Fury was massively better than anyone wanted to give him credit for. If the fight had been postponed until February the general opinion would still be that Wlad is too good for everyone.
that's stupid logic
holding and leaning is against the rules
its like saying, he kicked a lot but if you were good enough you shouldn't have allowed him to do it
most HW were smaller than him so it was miles harder for them to stop him doing it than it was for a bigger fella
Alot of them invited it. While Klitschko was holding and leaning he wasnt landing that big right hand or left hook. Look at Haye for instance! He tried using it as a tactic to get points deducted from him but it backfired!
I don't agree
he tried to get out of the way of it because he knew klit would be allowed to do it
every other small fighter klit has faced, klit just leaned on until they had no energy left and then he started punching
other fighters didn't go down from it, trying to hold klit up, which is what sapped their energy even more
haye might not have come out of the fight with klit with a lot of praise but he fought the only way he had a chance of winning apart from perhaps an all out attack
Fury's performance was immense and I am delighted about it, you have to be being kind to wlad to give him any of the rounds, but fury didn't have to worry about the hold and lean because he is too big, which is wlads major weapon, by far his most dominant weapon over the last 11 years
much more effective than his punching
and against the rules :)
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[QUOTE=erics44;1370194]
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ross
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Originally Posted by
erics44
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Originally Posted by
ross
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Fenster
You can assess the information different to that.
Fury is the first heavyweight to win for 19 years.
Maybe it shows how weak the heavyweight division has been in recent times, or maybe how strong the heavyweight division was in the past, or maybe the heavyweight division is no longer seen as the glamour divison, as it definitely was in the past.
I personally think its as much to do with America having little in the way of world class heavies over recent years. You need americans in their for their networks to throw promotion behind and create that "glamour" again.
I think its because wlad klit was allowed to cheat for so long
had they had have applied the rules to his fights his reign would have been a lot shorter
in fact he may never have won it when he did, he should have been dq'd early in the sam peter fight
maybe then other stars would have emerged
Yes he did hug and hold
but if your good enough you shouldnt be allowing him to. Tyson didnt but everyone else did for the past 11 years.
Even Jennings an american fighter fighting in america with the ref not allowing it couldnt do anything and spent too much of the fight being too defensive to win any rounds. Wlad hasnt suddently become a one trick pony just because Fury was massively better than anyone wanted to give him credit for. If the fight had been postponed until February the general opinion would still be that Wlad is too good for everyone.
that's stupid logic
holding and leaning is against the rules
its like saying, he kicked a lot but if you were good enough you shouldn't have allowed him to do it
most HW were smaller than him so it was miles harder for them to stop him doing it than it was for a bigger fella[/QUOTE]
This is exactly the point. Because Fury is bigger than Wlad, the leaning on is going to play into Fury's hands more than Wlad , whereas with smaller guys Wlad faces , it's to his advantage. Also , the reach made a massive difference . Wlad can usually paw his jab out and control the distance , but Fury used his longer reach and good movement to control that. Wlad wasn't prepared to take shots in order to get his own off.
I also think that Wlad (and many other people, Myself definitely included) underestimated Fury and his ability to execute the gameplan. Hindsight is a wonderful thing, but if Wlad thought Fury could do as well as he did, there's no way he would've given him a shot. He clearly thought Fury was pretty useless and all talk , but he had the shock of his life. Fair play to Team Fury for that. ;D
Basically , in the rematch, in order to stand any chance, Wlad has to change his mindset of the last 10 years and attack without fear of getting clumped on the way in . I'm not sure at his age, whether he can do that.
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I've always said Wlad shouldn't be rated P4P because he has a massive natural size advantage over most of his opponents.
Think the Fury fight made me right. He was completely lost fighting someone as big as him, that had a bit of skill, who he couldn't physically overpower.
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I've always said Wlad shouldn't be rated P4P because he has a massive natural size advantage over most of his opponents.
Think the Fury fight made me right. He was completely lost fighting someone as big as him, that had a bit of skill, who he couldn't physically overpower.
Yet before the fight most people said size wasnt a factor, Tyson was getting stopped and quickly and Wlad was better against his bigger opponents.
Wlad is still world class and could still beat Wilder who is also taller and win the WBC but Tyson is too good for everyone right now.
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ross
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Fenster
I've always said Wlad shouldn't be rated P4P because he has a massive natural size advantage over most of his opponents.
Think the Fury fight made me right. He was completely lost fighting someone as big as him, that had a bit of skill, who he couldn't physically overpower.
Yet before the fight most people said size wasnt a factor, Tyson was getting stopped and quickly and Wlad was better against his bigger opponents.
Wlad is still world class and could still beat Wilder who is also taller and win the WBC but Tyson is too good for everyone right now.
I thought wlad would win
but wlads biggest weapon is still his holding, much more so than his punching
and I am yet to see wilder in with a first class HW so I cant really say with any assurance who would win that fight, but I think wlad would be very scared to get hit which might be the deciding factor
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I never said size wasn't a factor, of course it was. It could have benefited Wlad fighting someone his own size for all we knew but it certainly did not.
It just showed - as eric keeps saying - without the holding and climbing all over fighters backs and reach advantage and size advantage he was just a big stiff with a pawing jab and occasional right hand.
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I never said size wasn't a factor, of course it was. It could have benefited Wlad fighting someone his own size for all we knew but it certainly did not.
It just showed - as eric keeps saying - without the holding and climbing all over fighters backs and reach advantage and size advantage he was just a big stiff with a pawing jab and occasional right hand.
Dont forget the left hook!;D
Most of these revisionist opinions are based on peoples dislike of Fury.
These same people will still have Haye beating Fury:rolleyes:
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ross
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Fenster
I never said size wasn't a factor, of course it was. It could have benefited Wlad fighting someone his own size for all we knew but it certainly did not.
It just showed - as eric keeps saying - without the holding and climbing all over fighters backs and reach advantage and size advantage he was just a big stiff with a pawing jab and occasional right hand.
Dont forget the left hook!;D
Most of these revisionist opinions are based on peoples dislike of Fury.
These same people will still have Haye beating Fury:rolleyes:
I have no hate for fury at all, I am a fan
I have been saying this about wlad for years
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Hold up, ross. This has nothing to do with Fury. Lots of us have been complaining for years about Wlad's holding/fouling, one-dimensional boring style. Dig up the Povetkin RBR thread, I was asking for him to be DQ'd before the end of the 1st round.
And by the way - You was the one before the fight telling everyone, a million times, how Wlad was overrated and Fury would win easy.
You can't have it both ways. You can't say "this is an easy fight." Then when your man wins say "this was the greatest win in history."
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Re: The 2nd British fighter to win the Ring magazine fighter of the year is.....
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Hold up, ross. This has nothing to do with Fury. Lots of us have been complaining for years about Wlad's holding/fouling, one-dimensional boring style. Dig up the Povetkin RBR thread, I was asking for him to be DQ'd before the end of the 1st round.
And by the way - You was the one before the fight telling everyone, a million times, how Wlad was overrated and Fury would win easy.
You can't have it both ways. You can't say "this is an easy fight." Then when your man wins say "this was the greatest win in history."
Recent history;)
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Re: The first British fighter to ever win the Ring magazine fighter of the year is...
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That's hard to believe when you think on it. The first? At the rate at which Brits are collecting trinkets he won't be the last. On a side, Canelo v Kirkland ko of year says more about inner promotion than it does anything. Who didn't see that detonation coming?
Exactly what I was saying about fighters with connections getting unfairly rated higher.
Makes Tyson winning the top spot even better as hes the least connected fighter and probably most hated on that list. He has been awarded on pure merit.
You need to hire some one to follow you around patting you on the back, it wouild save you mountains of time.:cool:
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Dont forget the left hook!;D
Most of these revisionist opinions are based on peoples dislike of Fury.
These same people will still have Haye beating Fury:rolleyes:
Like I said before , most people don't dislike Fury, It's YOU that they dislike.:cool:
and you keep mentioning "revisionist" like it's some sort of plague.:rolleyes: If I get something wrong, is it better to admit it, learn from that and move forward , or use a pack of excuses and go into denial?
obviously opinion is going to change.
Styles make fights. I happen to think Fury probably beats Wlad in a rematch, and I would fancy him against Wilder. However, there are a few HW's out there that I think could beat him . I might be wrong , but like I've said many times before , time will tell.
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Spicoli
That's hard to believe when you think on it. The first? At the rate at which Brits are collecting trinkets he won't be the last. On a side, Canelo v Kirkland ko of year says more about inner promotion than it does anything. Who didn't see that detonation coming?
Exactly what I was saying about fighters with connections getting unfairly rated higher.
Makes Tyson winning the top spot even better as hes the least connected fighter and probably most hated on that list. He has been awarded on pure merit.
You need to hire some one to follow you around patting you on the back, it wouild save you mountains of time.:cool:
Ahh, dont be a jealous bitch:oooh::oooh:
