The 2nd British fighter to win the Ring magazine fighter of the year is.....

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You can assess the information different to that.

Fury is the first heavyweight to win for 19 years.

Maybe it shows how weak the heavyweight division has been in recent times, or maybe how strong the heavyweight division was in the past, or maybe the heavyweight division is no longer seen as the glamour divison, as it definitely was in the past.

I personally think its as much to do with America having little in the way of world class heavies over recent years. You need americans in their for their networks to throw promotion behind and create that "glamour" again.

I think its because wlad klit was allowed to cheat for so long

had they had have applied the rules to his fights his reign would have been a lot shorter

in fact he may never have won it when he did, he should have been dq'd early in the sam peter fight

maybe then other stars would have emerged

Yes he did hug and hold but if your good enough you shouldnt be allowing him to. Tyson didnt but everyone else did for the past 11 years.

Even Jennings an american fighter fighting in america with the ref not allowing it couldnt do anything and spent too much of the fight being too defensive to win any rounds. Wlad hasnt suddently become a one trick pony just because Fury was massively better than anyone wanted to give him credit for. If the fight had been postponed until February the general opinion would still be that Wlad is too good for everyone.

that's stupid logic

holding and leaning is against the rules

its like saying, he kicked a lot but if you were good enough you shouldn't have allowed him to do it

most HW were smaller than him so it was miles harder for them to stop him doing it than it was for a bigger fella

Alot of them invited it. While Klitschko was holding and leaning he wasnt landing that big right hand or left hook. Look at Haye for instance! He tried using it as a tactic to get points deducted from him but it backfired!

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You can assess the information different to that.

Fury is the first heavyweight to win for 19 years.

Maybe it shows how weak the heavyweight division has been in recent times, or maybe how strong the heavyweight division was in the past, or maybe the heavyweight division is no longer seen as the glamour divison, as it definitely was in the past.

I personally think its as much to do with America having little in the way of world class heavies over recent years. You need americans in their for their networks to throw promotion behind and create that "glamour" again.

I think its because wlad klit was allowed to cheat for so long

had they had have applied the rules to his fights his reign would have been a lot shorter

in fact he may never have won it when he did, he should have been dq'd early in the sam peter fight

maybe then other stars would have emerged

Yes he did hug and hold but if your good enough you shouldnt be allowing him to. Tyson didnt but everyone else did for the past 11 years.

Even Jennings an american fighter fighting in america with the ref not allowing it couldnt do anything and spent too much of the fight being too defensive to win any rounds. Wlad hasnt suddently become a one trick pony just because Fury was massively better than anyone wanted to give him credit for. If the fight had been postponed until February the general opinion would still be that Wlad is too good for everyone.

that's stupid logic

holding and leaning is against the rules

its like saying, he kicked a lot but if you were good enough you shouldn't have allowed him to do it

most HW were smaller than him so it was miles harder for them to stop him doing it than it was for a bigger fella

Alot of them invited it. While Klitschko was holding and leaning he wasnt landing that big right hand or left hook. Look at Haye for instance! He tried using it as a tactic to get points deducted from him but it backfired!

I don't agree

he tried to get out of the way of it because he knew klit would be allowed to do it

every other small fighter klit has faced, klit just leaned on until they had no energy left and then he started punching

other fighters didn't go down from it, trying to hold klit up, which is what sapped their energy even more

haye might not have come out of the fight with klit with a lot of praise but he fought the only way he had a chance of winning apart from perhaps an all out attack

Fury's performance was immense and I am delighted about it, you have to be being kind to wlad to give him any of the rounds, but fury didn't have to worry about the hold and lean because he is too big, which is wlads major weapon, by far his most dominant weapon over the last 11 years

much more effective than his punching

and against the rules