Wlad Is Early Betting Favourite to Beat Fury in the Rematch!!
I've just been checking oddschecker's boxing market for the upcoming year and Klitschko is 10/11 best price to beat Fury. Fury is 11/10.
I have to say I think Wlad is going to turn him over myself, I just can't see a guy as intelligent as Wlad taking the rematch without knowing where he went so terribly wrong and I also can't see Fury going 24 rounds without taking any serious power punches from Klitschko.
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I think fury may well do it again
I thought the scores were a lot closer than they should have been last time
how many fights have been turned around when the loser of the first lost 10 of the 12 rounds?
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Wlad has to prove he isn't totally gunshy and shot , he was simply awful in the first fight.
He had no answer or plan B to anything Fury did , so for me based on what we see fury is the favorite.
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Wlad took the fight after listening to his brother. His brother cant understand how someone as shit as Fury could do that to his brother and it cant be that Tyson is just that good, it must be that Wlad didnt perform.
Hes wrong. Iv got a feeling the rematch wont go ahead. I think over time Wlad will question himself and maybe try and get a shot at Martin instead.
For Wlad to throw more punches hes going to get punched back more. He got hurt a couple of times in the last fight by not engaging and risks getting stopped in any rematch by being more aggressive.
I cant see Tyson not getting fucked around here with his history of pull outs against him.
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Wlad took the fight after listening to his brother. His brother cant understand how someone as shit as Fury could do that to his brother and it cant be that Tyson is just that good, it must be that Wlad didnt perform.
Hes wrong. Iv got a feeling the rematch wont go ahead. I think over time Wlad will question himself and maybe try and get a shot at Martin instead.
For Wlad to throw more punches hes going to get punched back more. He got hurt a couple of times in the last fight by not engaging and risks getting stopped in any rematch by being more aggressive.
I cant see Tyson not getting fucked around here with his history of pull outs against him.
I can't believe I'm saying this, but I agree with just about everything above. 😳
But if the rematch does go ahead, I have to agree with what Eric said.
are you happy we have another Tyson fury thread?
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Not sure Wlad can do much different. As much as being physically clueless last time he looked seriously intimidated.
I doubt he fancies going through the build-up again too.
If he did beat Fury it would ruin the good state the heavyweight division is currently in, as the Fury loss would quickly be written off.
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I picked Fury by KO in the first fight, I think he gets the job done in the return.
Pretty much echoing what Fenster said. Wlad didn't look like he was up to the job physically or mentally.
If he tries to box he drops a decision. If he tries to be more aggressive it'll be forced and he'll get chinned.
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Yep given Wlad has to force it and go for it I can see him getting stopped - maybe an early stoppage too.
I was expecting this fight to be around April time ? So not sure if an announcement is due
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Yep given Wlad has to force it and go for it I can see him getting stopped - maybe an early stoppage too.
I was expecting this fight to be around April time ? So not sure if an announcement is due
You could turn that on it's head though. The first fight was not exactly action packed and we all know it does not take a truck to put Fury on his arse. Wlad rebuilt after a far more damaging beating than that he suffered under Fury, and if he can string together a simple combination will stop Fury in his tracks. It might not be the most likely scenario, but Fury beat a world beater on one night, he did not become one. He has yet to become the fearful and formidable foe that everyone is avoiding, according to some of his more deluded fans.
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Wlad took the fight after listening to his brother. His brother cant understand how someone as shit as Fury could do that to his brother and it cant be that Tyson is just that good, it must be that Wlad didnt perform.
Hes wrong. Iv got a feeling the rematch wont go ahead. I think over time Wlad will question himself and maybe try and get a shot at Martin instead.
For Wlad to throw more punches hes going to get punched back more. He got hurt a couple of times in the last fight by not engaging and risks getting stopped in any rematch by being more aggressive.
I cant see Tyson not getting fucked around here with his history of pull outs against him.
I was reading in the Bleacher Report it might (the rematch) be held in the Middle East, hear anything about that?
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If the rematch happens it will probably be promoted by K2 with their money again and theres no way they would want the fight outside of Germany.
Tyson isgoing to be very well paid to defend in Germany (if it happens).
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Wlad has seriously damaged his legacy with the Fury loss. Whether it's true or not, people will be able to say he was always a one dimensional, gunshy, mechanical fighter who was able to impose himself and win simply by using the advantages he always had in height, weight and reach ..... And that Once he fought someone taller than him, he was clueless.
That result would never have happened against Vitali.
I actually think that Wlad is fighting Fury again because he has to do something to put his shattered reputation back together.
I can't believe that he could be as bad again, so I think it's an interesting matchup.
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If wlad is willing to possibly getting knocked the fuck then he has a pretty great chance of winning. has to be much more aggressive, throw plenty of rights (if he still can there were moments in the last fight where he seemed like he can't pull the trigger anymore). basically fight a little like he did pre steward if he can still do that, he might get flattened but I think this would give him the best chance to win.
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Wlad has to contradict near everything he has been going into this. He's already refused to do that first time around, and very late on he looked gassed and stumbling. His legs had more give than his chin really. Fury has genuine proof to go with his boasting now, he literally did whatever he wanted when he wanted. You can only go by a last performance and physically I think Fury can duplicate. The fight resembled a pick and poke pose off to me but its Wlad who has to make the changes here and go on a hunt. Can see Fury getting cocky-dumb knowing he has done it before. Pressure on him to keep it realistic, leveled and not forget Wlads name and skillset and walk into a brick while he is mugging for the camera one too many times or pulling up his trunks.
Where is Wlad while we're at it? He's been mute with recent action in division.
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I have a bet with Ross on this one. If either guy wins or if a draw comes about, Ross will leave the forum
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I have a bet with Ross on this one. If either guy wins or if a draw comes about, Ross will leave the forum
Now now dont get bitchy with me just because I actually won the stupid bet. It wasnt me who initiated it. It was Vendettos;)
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I've just been checking oddschecker's boxing market for the upcoming year and Klitschko is 10/11 best price to beat Fury. Fury is 11/10.
I have to say I think Wlad is going to turn him over myself, I just can't see a guy as intelligent as Wlad taking the rematch without knowing where he went so terribly wrong and I also can't see Fury going 24 rounds without taking any serious power punches from Klitschko.
There is no way Wlad beats Fury in a rematch
What's Wlad going to do different ?
1 - Wlad Goes All Out Guns Blazing
You have as much chance of banging a nun than this happening. But let's say he does, well Wlad is not by nature an all out, all action fighter and you can't turn into one of them in the space of 6 months.
So even if (And that's a big if) Jonathan Banks (His Trainer) does get Wlad to be more aggressive, throw more punches, fight at a higher pace. Even in that unlikely scenario he's get beats and badly at that.
Because of his programming of 20 years of no risk, jab, jab, hold, overhand right boxing. He's going to stick with that and thus his aggressiveness wont be as effective as he will revert to type and his come forward, throwing bombs attack wont be an all out assault. It will only be at 60% and even then, Fury is younger, fitter and stronger, so he wont be able to sustain it.
2) Wlad Tries To Outbox Fury
Again. He could not do it last time. Why this time ? At the age of 40 and against an even more confident champ who is bigger than him.
3) Focus on knocking out Fury
Problem is that opens Wlad to being knocked out himself. Though I think Wlad has a better chin than Fury. I think Fury has better powers of recovery.
Fury reminds of Felix Trindad when he get's knocked down. He regains his faculties, very quick. Where as if Fury get's Wlad in trouble or down I think he'll get him out of there
The motivation is with Fury. Does Wlad really want a dog fight when he has millions in the bank ? Does he really want to bite down and go to war ? I don't see Wlad like that. I see him more of a Tyson than a Holyfield.
Has Wlad ever won a hard fight ? I can't remember. I think he'll punk out, like Tyson did every time someone stood up to him. Betting on Fury is licence to print Money.
If I was pricing this up I'd go 1/5 Fury. 5/1 Wlad
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Perhaps bookmakers thought Fury was lucky the first time? That Wlad was not himself.
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Perhaps bookmakers thought Fury was lucky the first time? That Wlad was not himself.
It was a 75-25 split last time. Now 50-50. Nothing to do with luck.
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is anyone looking forward to this fight?
i'm not really
i'm mildly interested mainly because if wlad wins the hws will be shit again for a bit
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rjj tszyu
I've just been checking oddschecker's boxing market for the upcoming year and Klitschko is 10/11 best price to beat Fury. Fury is 11/10.
I have to say I think Wlad is going to turn him over myself, I just can't see a guy as intelligent as Wlad taking the rematch without knowing where he went so terribly wrong and I also can't see Fury going 24 rounds without taking any serious power punches from Klitschko.
That’s pretty much what I think to. Its all upstairs. I've never seen him fight that scared. He was petrified and it was all because Fury could get to him over the top. He's never had to deal with that. Still don’t get the sponge surface he works out on. I bet they change that up;D
There is nothing that is really stopping him from making the adjustments because one of them is kind of necessary. Letting your freakin hands go. Did he even through a right hand. Dr broken hammer needs to get over that hurdle of he will get beat worse. Maybe they should hire a hypnotist.
