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Was thinking this could be an important fight, if Floyd is thinking about another fight. I'm sure he would love (like everyone) to punch Amir in the mouth. If Garcia wins it would be another easy nite for Floyd, also.
The buildup for a Floyd vs Khan fight would be fun, Khan would slip into his teenage girl mode and tweet the nights and days away! Floyd could sit back and enlighten us all about the scourge of racism in boxing and MMA today!
If they fight in june and garcia wins then floyd will fight garcia in September...guaranteed.
Khan will beat Garcia this time and out box him and set up a big fight with Floyd. :)
I quite like Garcia but don't see him beating Khan think Khan might even stop Garcia
Khan will not try to stop him this time, that was where he went wrong last time. With Virgil, it is points victory.Quote:
Originally Posted by g3org3
I seem to be in the minority that actually think Garcia is a top fighter, however, his only chance against Khan is to chin him again. If he hadn't already chinned him it would look like a borderline mismatch stylewise. Khan should be able to run rings around him.
Garcia does have the tendency to cut and have his face broken up, Khan was on his way to doing this after just a couple of rounds until the big left hook. I've seen footage of Garcia talking openly about the Khan fight and he admitted to basically being a punching bag until he got his timing going. I think it's a real 50/50 fight and it's really annoying that Khan so far has not managed to avenge his losses. Cheaterson was not his fault but apart from that he needs to get those straightened out.
If the same Khan shows up that fought Alexander, Garcia could get pummeled from pillar to post. Sure, I realize that Devon is a counter puncher but Khan had it all together on that the night and if he could hold off the full charge of Garcia over the opening few rounds he could cruise to victory and maybe even get a towel stoppage.
I guess Khan and Floyd had words at the fight. Floyd probably to him to beat Kell and then they can talk. Most likely called him gutless for demanding 80/20 to fight his countrymen admitting to the world that he wants nothing to do with him.
Sorry fellas but I just dont see Floyd coming back to fight Garcia either after what he witnessed. He's not going out on Andre Berto and then coming back for 50 against Danny Garcia. Grant it, he could probably fight the stadium janitor for 50 and still make 100 million.
I'd wager that he would not even come back as a welter. He seemed pretty casual with his retirement with that short interview. I doubt he comes back this year but he could. If he comes back its because he sees a kink in Golovkin and gets a catch or he waits to see what the fake middleweight is doing since for some reason Alvarez is still the most money. I've always believed that the Leonard accomplishment with Hagler dogs him and has for several years. Time will tell.
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Originally Posted by Fenster
I think so too, he's become underrated now imo. I'll pick Garcia if this happens, he knows he only needs to land once and he's the one who has improved since the first fight. Khan should have been be able to run rings around everyone who has hurt and beaten him, this blueprint for him to keep away and use his speed and range all but doesn't exist, he always makes the same mistakes. He hasn't even been active, and Garcia was the last guy he fought with any real punch.
Garcia will KO Khan again IF Khan actually goes ahead and actually steps in the ring.
Same tactics from Garcia as last time, looking for the same time punch, not worrying about what Khan hits him with.
And FLOYD AINT COMING BACK!😄
Floyd is coming back and you lose the bet. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
Khan should out point him easily but Garcia will land at some point.
Khans wasting his prime years
No chance! And you will lose the bet and change your avatar to the IS Flag and your name to BBB (Brock's bum boy!) ;D;D;DQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterFloyd is coming back and you lose the bet. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
This is the main change.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterKhan will not try to stop him this time, that was where he went wrong last time. With Virgil, it is points victory.Quote:
Originally Posted by g3org3
Virgil hunter.
Khan is undefeated with virgil..he will possibly outbox garcia this time by boxing smart...garcia and angel don't really want this fight.
Well Garcia is undefeated with his Dad. They wanted the fight before, they said exactly how Khan would get beat, and they want the fight again and their gameplan will be the same and the result will be the same, IF Khan actually goes ahead with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by impThis is the main change.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterKhan will not try to stop him this time, that was where he went wrong last time. With Virgil, it is points victory.Quote:
Originally Posted by g3org3
Virgil hunter.
Khan is undefeated with virgil..he will possibly outbox garcia this time by boxing smart...garcia and angel don't really want this fight.
Khan gets rocked, Khans chin is made of styrofoam peanuts, Khan whines too much and Khan gets bullied and backed up by Algieri. That aside I think he gets it right this time. In a way the worst thing to happen to Garcia is looking like a one shot destroyer vs Khan and a well shot Morales second time around. If he goes in thinking all I have to do is land one shot he could very well get outhustled and busted up himself.
I think it is an excellent fight to be made. The last fight raised questions because Khan was banking rounds and then Garcia ended it quickly. Khan knows he can fight a more disciplined fight and Garcia needs to prove the first fight wasn't a fluke as he beat Mattysse, but otherwise I think he has taken lighter fights and been given a few gifts on the way.
It's a fight where I will be supporting Khan and I think he can stop a bloodied Garcia down the stretch.
Anything but not BBB, please!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraNo chance! And you will lose the bet and change your avatar to the IS Flag and your name to BBB (Brock's bum boy!) ;D;D;DQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterFloyd is coming back and you lose the bet. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
shut up about floyd
I think Khan wins on points. He looked brilliant against Alexander and Hunter will have him looking the same against Garcia who doesn't have the height and reach of Algieri. Khan will also be much more careful as he knows what happened the last time.
And Floyd is definitely coming back. If Khan wins he's in pole position to fight him.
I hope Khan does not wait for Floyd again. The was embarrassing last night time and will be again if Floyd does not fight him again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
Khan has no sense of shame or self awareness.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterI hope Khan does not wait for Floyd again. The was embarrassing last night time and will be again if Floyd does not fight him again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
Surely he must have some pride? He is wasting away his peak years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland LaingKhan has no sense of shame or self awareness.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterI hope Khan does not wait for Floyd again. The was embarrassing last night time and will be again if Floyd does not fight him again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
Khan had better do his homework because after seeing Guerrera take those pop shots against him, that fight was a blueprint for how much Garcia has slid since Herrera. With the exception of his faulty chin, using the ring would give him a chance toet a UD. The only glaring reasons I saw for Guerrra losing was ring wear, not giving angles after the fifth round and abandoning the jab that blinded Garcia and the placing of his feet inside of Garcia's feet after the first five rounds of the fight.
Theres no way this can't happen this summer...Garcia will have to dig deep after 3 rounds and just brawl.
Khan will box Garcia's ears off providing he does not let Danny's dad get to him.Quote:
Originally Posted by imp
I'm in two minds as to whether this fight comes off or not. Khan knows a money fight with Brook is around, will he try to play hard ball asking for too much for a Garcia fight?
I'd like to see the fight, Khan gets a shot at redemption.
I can either see Khan on points or Garcia stoppage again.
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Originally Posted by Lineal
I don't think it will happen
Garcia will bottle it
Garcia does not want this fight and I would not be shocked to see him vacate than take this fight. I think Khan wins a rematch easily. He could win a shut out if he doesnt stop Garcia. Only way Garcia can win is by KO and I dont thin he'll catch Khan this time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraWell Garcia is undefeated with his Dad. They wanted the fight before, they said exactly how Khan would get beat, and they want the fight again and their gameplan will be the same and the result will be the same, IF Khan actually goes ahead with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by impThis is the main change.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterKhan will not try to stop him this time, that was where he went wrong last time. With Virgil, it is points victory.Quote:
Originally Posted by g3org3
Virgil hunter.
Khan is undefeated with virgil..he will possibly outbox garcia this time by boxing smart...garcia and angel don't really want this fight.
If khan stays away or Garcia spends the whole night persuing him, khan can squeeze out a points victory. I think Garcia lands the shot again, because khan can't resist trying to prove his some kind of beast.
Khan could have arguably better footwork under virgil than he had before but hasn't upped his IQ. In a perfect fight, Khan perfects his lateral movement, uses his reach and speed to pick at garcia and pivots out every time garcia crowds him and stiff arms him with a jab to gets the distance he needs to keep the fight going this way. Looking like ali cutting up a bum rushing slugger.
The reality for me is that khan doesn't always listen to his trainers. So you can bet even if he started out perfect, he'd abandon the plan for what he thinks he can get away with. Also his linear jousting style, depends much on accuracy and power-- and his greedy offense leaves him him in the worst possible place a chinny guy can be when his punches stop. It's like having a Ferrari that stalls in the middle of every intersection, railroad crossing, and at the end of every on ramp. He bounces on the in outside and then comes straight forward leaning into fast flurries that brings him right into Garcias wheelhouse. It works well on guys that will shell up or retreat as hes throwing punches or guys that can't take his punches....but... Khan tends to focus so much on his offense that he ignores everything else going on or possible at that moment, which is why he keeps getting caught with shots he doesn't see. Garcia can bait khan and time him with the counter hook again or pivot and loop one over the top like the shot that Donaire momentarily put Rigo on his butt with. Khan would need to work on controlling his distance and exiting safely (whether that'd footwork, jabbing his way out or just clinching and hoping the ref resets)-- just my opinion...i could be wrong.
I cannot believe how many people have jumped on the "Amir Khan is a high class quality Boxer" bandwagon, even to the extent that apparently Garcia doesn't want the fight!Quote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeGarcia does not want this fight and I would not be shocked to see him vacate than take this fight. I think Khan wins a rematch easily. He could win a shut out if he doesnt stop Garcia. Only way Garcia can win is by KO and I dont thin he'll catch Khan this time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraWell Garcia is undefeated with his Dad. They wanted the fight before, they said exactly how Khan would get beat, and they want the fight again and their gameplan will be the same and the result will be the same, IF Khan actually goes ahead with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by impThis is the main change.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterKhan will not try to stop him this time, that was where he went wrong last time. With Virgil, it is points victory.Quote:
Originally Posted by g3org3
Virgil hunter.
Khan is undefeated with virgil..he will possibly outbox garcia this time by boxing smart...garcia and angel don't really want this fight.
Tell me, wtf has Garcia got to worry about? I've heard nonsense like:
"in the first fight , Khan was accumulating rounds" - really ? Garcia plugged him in the 2nd Round and KO'd him in the 4th . Accumulating rounds my ass!
"Khan will outbox him and Garcia will be bloodied and stopped" - When has Garcia been stopped?
"Garcia doesn't want the fight" - Why wouldn't he want the fight? he knocked the cunt out last time.
"Garcia will give up his title" - What? why would he give up his title against someone who has no proven power in this division. he's hardly likely to be scared is he? if he gave up his title, he gives up the potential to be an elite fighter in the division and earn optimum money. he's gonna do that because of Khan? come on.
"Khan will keep Garcia away for 12 rounds" - answer me this ? if Khan is such a technically gifted boxer, how come he couldn't stop Chris Algieri coming forward at him and running him down?
Not Floyd, not Manny, not an elite fighter, but a fighter who had been floored 8, yes 8 times in his 2 previous fights. Khan made him look like a World beater!
I suggest people scrutinise Khan's record very carefully before they start elevating him to God Like Status! :rolleyes:
No one is or should make out that this is a formality for khan to win. However Khan has a better defence now and Garcia has looked beatable since he defeated Amir.
Amir Khan demanded an 80-20 purse split in his favour to fight IBF welterweight champion and domestic rival Kell Brook, says Brook's promoter Eddie Hearn.
Khan, a former light-welterweight world champion, had taken to Twitter to accuse Brook of ducking him.
Khan added that Brook's demand of a 50-50 split was unacceptable.
Hearn said Brook would be happy to take the thin end of a 60-40 split and that he would continue to negotiate with Khan's team on that basis.
Hearn added that Khan's team had demanded more than £7m to fight Brook, which would have left Brook with £2.5m at most.
Hearn later told Sky Sports News: "He [Khan] is trying to price himself out of the fight because he doesn't want it.
"It's been very positive for the last few weeks and when there is dialogue it's always good. But I was left gobsmacked by their demands.
"I appreciate Khan is probably a bigger name than Kell Brook but Kell Brook is world champion and he needs some kind of parity. More importantly, he needs some respect."
Brook also weighed in to the row tweeting: "There you have it Amir Khan, put up or shut up. No more talk, June 4 Wembley stadium for the world title. I will destroy you."
Khan had hoped to fight Manny Pacquiao this year, but when Pacquiao decided to take a deciding match against Timothy Bradley instead it looked like a fight against Brook was a near certainty.
However, Khan's latest Twitter outburst - in which he mocked Brook for fighting "bums" and ducking the best in the welterweight division - would suggest that is not the case.
Bolton's Khan, who had also hoped to fight Floyd Mayweather last year before the American legend's retirement, says he would like a rematch with Danny Garcia next.
The unbeaten Garcia, who knocked Khan out in 2012, faces fellow American Robert Guerrero in Los Angeles on Saturday.
Khan, 29, has not fought since outpointing Chris Algieri in New York last May and has not held any world titles since losing to Lamont Peterson in 2011.
Sheffield's Brook, also 29, has also not fought since last May, when he stopped fellow Briton Frankie Gavin. Brook faces a mandatory defence against unheralded Canadian Kevin Bizier in March.
Meanwhile, Khan says Pacquiao's suggestion a fight between the two men was nixed by Khan's team "are wholly inaccurate and false".
"An initial meeting took place last September between [Pacquiao's promoter] Bob Arum and my uncle and lawyer in London," said Khan.
"My team was told by Bob Arum that it was a choice between either [WBO light-welterweight champion] Terence Crawford or myself.
"[Pacquiao's] team knew a fight between us would be a very dangerous one for him and best avoided. A fight with Bradley - who Pacquiao in most opinions has beaten twice - is a much easier option."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/35386831
Just a question. How much do people think Khan will earn for fighting Garcia?
Bearing in mind that Garcia is champ, Khan is the Challenger, I wonder. Million dollars maybe? Less? Interesting.
Khan will avenge his loss, win a title, and have better bargaining for the fight with Brooks. Makes sense in every way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
How much?Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterKhan will avenge his loss, win a title, and have better bargaining for the fight with Brooks. Makes sense in every way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
Probably not as much as if he fought Brooks but the fight would be worth more to him when they fight. If that makes sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraHow much?Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterKhan will avenge his loss, win a title, and have better bargaining for the fight with Brooks. Makes sense in every way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
I think you might be right.Quote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeGarcia does not want this fight and I would not be shocked to see him vacate than take this fight. I think Khan wins a rematch easily. He could win a shut out if he doesnt stop Garcia. Only way Garcia can win is by KO and I dont thin he'll catch Khan this time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraWell Garcia is undefeated with his Dad. They wanted the fight before, they said exactly how Khan would get beat, and they want the fight again and their gameplan will be the same and the result will be the same, IF Khan actually goes ahead with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by impThis is the main change.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterKhan will not try to stop him this time, that was where he went wrong last time. With Virgil, it is points victory.Quote:
Originally Posted by g3org3
Virgil hunter.
Khan is undefeated with virgil..he will possibly outbox garcia this time by boxing smart...garcia and angel don't really want this fight.
Angel Garcia on Amir Khan: ‘Why would we fight Khan?’ - Ring TV