Does anyone know how much he is being paid to face Bursak?
Printable View
Does anyone know how much he is being paid to face Bursak?
he's said he wants GGG in the summer
he hopes to bring him to England
I hope it happens
Wasnt he offered $6,000,000 for the fight?
Saunders can’t be ducking him at the same time Alvarez is with Golovkin trying to enforce his mandatory. Golovkin as crazy as it sounds is not even ranked in the WBO. In addition, Saunders is the new kid on the block and fresh title holder. Who can blame him for not wanting to end his career fresh out of the gate in this market? Danny boy is reporting that he was offered low 7 figures for April and turned it down. Smart man. Why take a million five when you can net 5 or 6 after the dust settles. It could be a career ender either way.
So Yep. He is ducking GGG however you want to put it.
I seem to remember other members of this forum informing us that he all but said in the exact words he didn't want any part of him. I could be wrong, they say the memories the first thing to go. What were we talking about again.... oh right.. Saunders...
Triple G made it easy for saunders and tried to scoop saunders (or at least his title) right after the victory, as his Canelo tune up .....
I have an issue with fighters that go.. "Oh i'm not ready, yet" . Um you're a "champion" you're holding a belt, you better be ready. I dont expect a champ to have a short camp or step in on short notice or anything... but if you're given enough time and youre trying to establish yourself as a player in the division, step up Or else that belt and title is meant for someone else.
I suppose one of evils of having a non season schedule for a sport like boxing is that it empowers the primadonnas to procrastinate and then on a whim, declare themselves ready for a billion dollar fight and expect to be ushered to the front of the line. The amount of Diva-ism F*ckery in the sport is unbelievable. Where the hell did this Challenger Emeritus Bullsh*t come from?
He did say something along those lines but in a different context. Context is something that vanishes along with memory;D j/k.Quote:
Originally Posted by J_Undisputed
Anywho, he said he wasn’t ready which is a fair assessment of himself. "A man’s got to know his limitations" Is that a duck? Just look at the boxing world around us. None of the top guys fight each other. It’s the new normal. It’s an equal opportunity ducking society and its premise is business. The holy grail of escape clauses. If this is a duck then it’s a fledgling compared to the others going on.
Yeah i remember something about him saying he'd need a machine gun or something. I applauded the guys humor and honesty ... before it became a reality and he got the offer for the fight as a Title holder.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitHe did say something along those lines but in a different context. Context is something that vanishes along with memory;D j/k.Quote:
Originally Posted by J_Undisputed
Anywho, he said he wasn’t ready which is a fair assessment of himself. "A man’s got to know his limitations" Is that a duck? Just look at the boxing world around us. None of the top guys fight each other. It’s the new normal. It’s an equal opportunity ducking society and its premise is business. The holy grail of escape clauses. If this is a duck then it’s a fledgling compared to the others going on.
I agree that that everyone's doing it ...and its the new normal.. but that just doesn't make it right to me. I'd understand if it was an injury or family tragedy where the fighters mind is still not focused. The "im not good enough yet" or "i haven't been forced that far in weight yet, lets just make my division 155lbs for now." as kind of cop outs considering the nature of the sport. If this is downhill skiing, no big deal. But in the sport of conquerors, you cant lead with a "i don't know/ maybe/ i'm not ready"... it just seems to cheapen everything.
Oh I agree and its systemic. Announcers now routinely refer to champions as "contenders". A guy hates to me a cynic but its root rot. Part of a Mayweather hangover that just wont go away.Quote:
Originally Posted by J_Undisputed
Saunders has always been honest about not being able to beat GGG. Unlike Junior. Saunders can make a defence or two but the real big money is with Golovkin so could see him challenge him later down the line.
Let him have one easy fight in front of his own crowd as champion, I think most fighters deserve to the chance to enjoy the belt after dedicating years of their life to earn it.
Once that is out of the way then they should be fighting the best around.
It was out in the open that he didn't want to fight GGG. It wasn't a secret. I do agree though that it's ridiculous how someone can call themselves a champion but not be ready for the best. Boxing is a business so us fans just get robbed of the best fights because everyone wants the most money possible by fighting easy opponents. This includes fighters, promoters, and managers.
He swerved Golovkin - but if everyone on the planet doesn't give him a hope in hell then why do you even want the fight?
Power of the alphabet.
I give him more than a hope in hell.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Im not sold on his self belief and ambition but his style will be something Golovkin hasnt seen. He does need to believe in himself for me to think the fight would be winnable for him and after everything hes said previously about being Golovkins bitch can you blame Warren for trying to cash him in someway else?
Anyone that has half-a-clue about Warren knew he wouldn't feed him to Golovkin straight after getting his hands on the belt.
You take a quick $2 million to get smashed to bits in one fight or earn the same amount in a few winnable ones over the course of a year? If I was his promoter i'd advise him to take the second option.
Smart kid. Good fighter but not sure he has the temperament just yet. Let him enjoy a first defense and hopefully the middles will get it together and meet up.
Yeh but, Warren will fuck him about and take massive percentages from him for 'mediocre' fights. We all know that GGG is the only game in town, the next Mayweather, so why not take the money now? Maybe gobby dad has the right idea with Crith Jnr. Get it on win lose or draw, early money.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
I'm sure they have a % based agreement per purse that stays the same regardless of the size. Warren is just like any promoter and he's got a shallow hand to play these days. Saunders is a meal ticket. They can wait it out a little. Hell maybe Alvarez will offer him a unification and he will get double the Golovkin offer. That is really the 155 champs only escape after Khan. Or,not everyone ages as well as Moore or Hopkins so maybe Golovkin slips a little. If by some miracle Alvarez agrees to fight Golovkin after Khan then Saunders can wait that out and double up then also. A full unification fight. They might even do it at the 02 assuming its Golovkin. Bottom line given the marketplace Saunders would be a fool to take this now. Just look at how Alvarez is milking it. Whats' the incentive for Saunders to break rank? Legacy? That has gone the way of the dodo bird.Quote:
Originally Posted by nuggetdotcomYeh but, Warren will fuck him about and take massive percentages from him for 'mediocre' fights. We all know that GGG is the only game in town, the next Mayweather, so why not take the money now? Maybe gobby dad has the right idea with Crith Jnr. Get it on win lose or draw, early money.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Haha. You act as if Saunders is some great fighter. He's nowhere near the level of GGG. I would be beyond shocked to see him win. He struggled with Lee who is a terrible boxer with a good punch.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossI give him more than a hope in hell.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Im not sold on his self belief and ambition but his style will be something Golovkin hasnt seen. He does need to believe in himself for me to think the fight would be winnable for him and after everything hes said previously about being Golovkins bitch can you blame Warren for trying to cash him in someway else?
What was almost everyone telling me regarding Fury and Klitschko?;DQuote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncherHaha. You act as if Saunders is some great fighter. He's nowhere near the level of GGG. I would be beyond shocked to see him win. He struggled with Lee who is a terrible boxer with a good punch.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossI give him more than a hope in hell.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Im not sold on his self belief and ambition but his style will be something Golovkin hasnt seen. He does need to believe in himself for me to think the fight would be winnable for him and after everything hes said previously about being Golovkins bitch can you blame Warren for trying to cash him in someway else?
Saunders has a style that anyone will struggle with. Eubanks effort is going to look better and better especially seeing as it was his first live opponent.
Ross, with his old "the man that lost to the man" theory. 😂 Saunders might do ok against GGG, but he'll get beat. Whatever Happens doesn't make Eubank any better or any worse.
I don't like predicting fights that aren't made because they happen 5 years down the line and it's a different story, but if they happened today:
Saunders would beat Eubank again, probably easier than the first time.
GGG would KO Eubank in 3
GGG Would stop Saunders in a similar timescale as he did Murray.
Simples.
saunders is a very good fighter/boxer
he'd be a handful for anyone, he doesn't hit hard enough to beat GGG tho
I think it would be a interesting fight tho
I'm leaning toward the idea (radical as it may seem) that some boxers do tell the truth. Taking a loss for a big payday doesn't appeal to some people even though it might be an accepted practice. It makes you look inside yourself where you might not want to look.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
I'm positive most fighters don't start their careers with the idea of getting to the top and then taking a fight they're sure they can't win for a huge payday. It goes against the grain of what fighting is about. Know what I'm saying?
I wasn't sold on the fact that klit would beat fury. Wlad was a product of a terrible division while GGG is actually a really good fighter.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossWhat was almost everyone telling me regarding Fury and Klitschko?;DQuote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncherHaha. You act as if Saunders is some great fighter. He's nowhere near the level of GGG. I would be beyond shocked to see him win. He struggled with Lee who is a terrible boxer with a good punch.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossI give him more than a hope in hell.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Im not sold on his self belief and ambition but his style will be something Golovkin hasnt seen. He does need to believe in himself for me to think the fight would be winnable for him and after everything hes said previously about being Golovkins bitch can you blame Warren for trying to cash him in someway else?
Saunders has a style that anyone will struggle with. Eubanks effort is going to look better and better especially seeing as it was his first live opponent.
Saunders also said he preferred to fight GGG when he is declining and not now when he is at his peak.Quote:
Originally Posted by beenKOedI'm leaning toward the idea (radical as it may seem) that some boxers do tell the truth. Taking a loss for a big payday doesn't appeal to some people even though it might be an accepted practice. It makes you look inside yourself where you might not want to look.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
I'm positive most fighters don't start their careers with the idea of getting to the top and then taking a fight they're sure they can't win for a huge payday. It goes against the grain of what fighting is about. Know what I'm saying?
It was a good business decision to have one defense and then a fight in the summer against GGG. However, it's one thing to claim that you want to have a fight in the summer and another thing to actually have the fight in the summer. GGG is fighting in the beginning of April. BJS is fighting on 4/30. Assuming no injuries, the earlier they could be ready for a massive fight at a stadium in the UK is in the end of July. If GGG is targeting Canelo for Mexican Independence Day on 9/5, and Warren knows this, he also knows there is no way a fight with BJS could be made in the end of July, unless his idea is that the fight with Canelo won't happen, and therefore GGG's summer is wide open.
I don't blame him for taking a defense first. I also think that his title really isn't as important as the fact that he is now a top 3 middleweight in the division, and that if GGG is going to clean out the division properly, he should face BJS. After BJS, the only remaining name is Danny Jacobs.