BJS is Ducking GGG - Do we all agree?

[J_Undisputed]

I seem to remember other members of this forum informing us that he all but said in the exact words he didn't want any part of him. I could be wrong, they say the memories the first thing to go. What were we talking about again.... oh right.. Saunders...

Triple G made it easy for saunders and tried to scoop saunders (or at least his title) right after the victory, as his Canelo tune up .....

I have an issue with fighters that go.. "Oh i'm not ready, yet" . Um you're a "champion" you're holding a belt, you better be ready. I dont expect a champ to have a short camp or step in on short notice or anything... but if you're given enough time and youre trying to establish yourself as a player in the division, step up Or else that belt and title is meant for someone else.

I suppose one of evils of having a non season schedule for a sport like boxing is that it empowers the primadonnas to procrastinate and then on a whim, declare themselves ready for a billion dollar fight and expect to be ushered to the front of the line. The amount of Diva-ism F*ckery in the sport is unbelievable. Where the hell did this Challenger Emeritus Bullsh*t come from?

He did say something along those lines but in a different context. Context is something that vanishes along with memory j/k.

Anywho, he said he wasn’t ready which is a fair assessment of himself. "A man’s got to know his limitations" Is that a duck? Just look at the boxing world around us. None of the top guys fight each other. It’s the new normal. It’s an equal opportunity ducking society and its premise is business. The holy grail of escape clauses. If this is a duck then it’s a fledgling compared to the others going on.

Yeah i remember something about him saying he'd need a machine gun or something. I applauded the guys humor and honesty ... before it became a reality and he got the offer for the fight as a Title holder.

I agree that that everyone's doing it ...and its the new normal.. but that just doesn't make it right to me. I'd understand if it was an injury or family tragedy where the fighters mind is still not focused. The "im not good enough yet" or "i haven't been forced that far in weight yet, lets just make my division 155lbs for now." as kind of cop outs considering the nature of the sport. If this is downhill skiing, no big deal. But in the sport of conquerors, you cant lead with a "i don't know/ maybe/ i'm not ready"... it just seems to cheapen everything.

[IamInuit]

Yeah i remember something about him saying he'd need a machine gun or something. I applauded the guys humor and honesty ... before it became a reality and he got the offer for the fight as a Title holder.

I agree that that everyone's doing it ...and its the new normal.. but that just doesn't make it right to me. I'd understand if it was an injury or family tragedy where the fighters mind is still not focused. The "im not good enough yet" or "i haven't been forced that far in weight yet, lets just make my division 155lbs for now." as kind of cop outs considering the nature of the sport. If this is downhill skiing, no big deal. But in the sport of conquerors, you cant lead with a "i don't know/ maybe/ i'm not ready"... it just seems to cheapen everything.

Oh I agree and its systemic. Announcers now routinely refer to champions as "contenders". A guy hates to me a cynic but its root rot. Part of a Mayweather hangover that just wont go away.

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[Master]

Saunders has always been honest about not being able to beat GGG. Unlike Junior. Saunders can make a defence or two but the real big money is with Golovkin so could see him challenge him later down the line.

[beenKOed]

Saunders has always been honest about not being able to beat GGG. Unlike Junior. Saunders can make a defence or two but the real big money is with Golovkin so could see him challenge him later down the line.

I'm leaning toward the idea (radical as it may seem) that some boxers do tell the truth. Taking a loss for a big payday doesn't appeal to some people even though it might be an accepted practice. It makes you look inside yourself where you might not want to look.
I'm positive most fighters don't start their careers with the idea of getting to the top and then taking a fight they're sure they can't win for a huge payday. It goes against the grain of what fighting is about. Know what I'm saying?

[Master]

Saunders has always been honest about not being able to beat GGG. Unlike Junior. Saunders can make a defence or two but the real big money is with Golovkin so could see him challenge him later down the line.

I'm leaning toward the idea (radical as it may seem) that some boxers do tell the truth. Taking a loss for a big payday doesn't appeal to some people even though it might be an accepted practice. It makes you look inside yourself where you might not want to look.
I'm positive most fighters don't start their careers with the idea of getting to the top and then taking a fight they're sure they can't win for a huge payday. It goes against the grain of what fighting is about. Know what I'm saying?

Saunders also said he preferred to fight GGG when he is declining and not now when he is at his peak.

[Rantcatrat]

It was a good business decision to have one defense and then a fight in the summer against GGG. However, it's one thing to claim that you want to have a fight in the summer and another thing to actually have the fight in the summer. GGG is fighting in the beginning of April. BJS is fighting on 4/30. Assuming no injuries, the earlier they could be ready for a massive fight at a stadium in the UK is in the end of July. If GGG is targeting Canelo for Mexican Independence Day on 9/5, and Warren knows this, he also knows there is no way a fight with BJS could be made in the end of July, unless his idea is that the fight with Canelo won't happen, and therefore GGG's summer is wide open.

I don't blame him for taking a defense first. I also think that his title really isn't as important as the fact that he is now a top 3 middleweight in the division, and that if GGG is going to clean out the division properly, he should face BJS. After BJS, the only remaining name is Danny Jacobs.

[Batman]

Let him have one easy fight in front of his own crowd as champion, I think most fighters deserve to the chance to enjoy the belt after dedicating years of their life to earn it.

Once that is out of the way then they should be fighting the best around.

[powerpuncher]

It was out in the open that he didn't want to fight GGG. It wasn't a secret. I do agree though that it's ridiculous how someone can call themselves a champion but not be ready for the best. Boxing is a business so us fans just get robbed of the best fights because everyone wants the most money possible by fighting easy opponents. This includes fighters, promoters, and managers.

[Fenster]

He swerved Golovkin - but if everyone on the planet doesn't give him a hope in hell then why do you even want the fight?

Power of the alphabet.

[ross]

He swerved Golovkin - but if everyone on the planet doesn't give him a hope in hell then why do you even want the fight?

Power of the alphabet.

I give him more than a hope in hell.

Im not sold on his self belief and ambition but his style will be something Golovkin hasnt seen. He does need to believe in himself for me to think the fight would be winnable for him and after everything hes said previously about being Golovkins bitch can you blame Warren for trying to cash him in someway else?