Homeless people, what are your thoughts?

Do you give money to them, Do you call them names when you are drunk, do you buy them food instead of giving them money?

I've always felt a close affinity to the homeless myself, since the age of about 14 I have always tried to help out when I can, if that was buying a tin of dog food for the starving mans dog, if it was giving him my last 2 fags, telling him about a secret gig where there will be 100's of students later on in the night

I buyy breakfast for homeless people whenver I get the chance, I won't give them money but I'll buy them food.

Anyways I just saw a homeless woman and I asked her what she wanted from the chippy. she asked for chicken and chips, I asked if she had any preference of chicken eg thigh, breast, leg
she looked genuinely perplexed and asked for a leg (why I don't know, if I want meat I go for the breast if I want flavour I go for the thigh, each to there own I suppose)

I sat down with her for a bit, she didn't seem like she was on or coming off anything and she said it was all about domestic violence why she has ended up on the street , any way after giving her another smoke and walking off I got half way down the road and stopped and thought 'just for one night, could I let her kip in the spare room, could I be that trusting' and I mean I actually stopped in my tracks and stood there for a good minute considering it, then I carried on my mission home.

Yes she could have robbed me blind whilst I was asleep. but at the same time I could have been the one to give her that one nights protection that she needed to turn her life around.

I dunno, that woman has kind of tugged on my heart strings and buying her some food actually makes me feel like a bit of a cunt

You shouldn't feel like a cunt for showing a little kindness. That is the weakness of a nice person. You can do something nice but still beat yourself up for it.

I sometimes see crippled people downtown pulling themselves around on the floor and I give enough to buy a cup of tea. I am told this is wrong though as they are often scam artists, but surely there are easier ways to make a living.

I don't understand homelessness really. There should be a social contract where everyone has the right to a bedroom from birth. But likewise people should be responsible and not have a dozen children. A bit of a compromise like that. At the very least the Royal scroungers should offer a bedroom or two.

I have worked with the homeless, the addicted and the mentally I'll up until a recent career change. I enjoyed it. Part of my job was to find housing for the homeless. Most of the time they really appreciated the apartment but a decent percentage would tear the place up and be back on on the streets in a short period of time. One client I had was a doctor who trained in Europe but had a breakdown somewhere on the way and never got it back together
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Mentally Ill quite a few. Schizotypal rainbow stuff, DSM-IV

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I have worked with the homeless, the addicted and the mentally I'll up until a recent career change. I enjoyed it. Part of my job was to find housing for the homeless. Most of the time they really appreciated the apartment but a decent percentage would tear the place up and be back on on the streets in a short period of time. One client I had was a doctor who trained in Europe but had a breakdown somewhere on the way and never got it back together
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Goddam tragic.

Been on both sides and slept under a bridge or two and a few roofs. Frankly the cause was my head up my own arse, young, dumb and using. We've really become so cynical with homeless and I won't lie..you find yourself judging them..gauging or wondering if they are really homeless. As fucked up as that sounds. I literally see the same five people at exact same times on different corners just blocks from my house. They alternate and have this Bartertown thing going on with chairs and trash bags the leave. It does in fact almost become an actual job. Routine. Talk about awkward when you yourself are going over exact same tracks and while handing off a coffee and donut or maybe a couple of bucks yesterday...you pull up with nothing one morning at light as its all you could do to wake up and pull enough dimes for the toll bridge. I feel for the kids and the mentally affected who need actual help but the older I get its harder to believe there are not ways you can legally make a money..a skill, trade, or looking past our comfort zones or confinements. There really is no classification or 'normalcy' in homelessness so each to me is individual. If you uproot a "temp work and pay cash" sign staked on my street corner and paint "Homeless-need cash and help now-God bless" in huge letters on the other side and get mad when people hand you Cool ranch tacos and a box of protein bars..then fuck off.

She would have probably thought you were a serial killer if you asked her back to your gaff.

I've given plenty of change and millions of fags (when i smoked) over the years. At night in the heart of London you can't walk past a doorway without someone kipping in it. Tragic.

Admit it, you just wanted to shag her ....... Fancied some cornflake crusted, sun dried kipper, trampy vag.

Batman, you did the right thing not inviting her in because it puts you in a vulnerable position in so many ways.

Birmingham has many people rough sleeping but a lot of them do have places they stay at and a lot come out at christmas begging.

There are plenty of emergency accommodation they can go to and safe houses for domestic violence incidents.

The properties are shared accommodation and single rooms with some dodgy landlords.

The real issue is mine on to permanent accommodation, there is a big shortage.

There are a few who prefer to stay homeless and can not live under a roof.

If I could be bothered to volunteer in a soup kitchen for the homeless, wouldn't it be funny to hustle them out of the doors when it's near closing time saying "Come on, drink up, some of us have homes to go to"

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Admit it, you just wanted to shag her ....... Fancied some cornflake crusted, sun dried kipper, trampy vag.

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Just spat my tea out..ha!

Who the fuk drinks tea anymore? Anyway I received some gifts for my students everyday sometimes sweet sometimes a box of cereal sometimes chocolates Sometimes some juice and on my way back to Port Authority on 8th Avenue and 42nd Street everyday there are plenty of homeless people on the sides of the buildings with their hands out so I just give them the same gift that my students gave me

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Who the fuk drinks tea anymore? Anyway I received some gifts for my students everyday sometimes sweet sometimes a box of cereal sometimes chocolates Sometimes some juice and on my way back to Port Authority on 8th Avenue and 42nd Street everyday there are plenty of homeless people on the sides of the buildings with their hands out so I just give them the same gift that my students gave me

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Paying it forward so to speak aka generously unloading ;D. I do that with gift cards around Christmas. Clinic usually get tons of random fast food, coffee and wal mart gift cards but low 5-10 dollar amounts from clients, each other and companies. Not to mention a shit load of homemade 'goodies' and store bought trays, popcorn tins etc etc. I like my cash so we just hand out food and a tenner on some card to local homeless. The fuck am I going to do with 50 boxes of stale cookies and chocolates come January ;D.

There was a guy in a town I lived in whom every Christmas he would pick a couple spots in town and hand out 100 dollar bills. Don't know how many he gave out a day but we are not talking about just 3 or 4. It would be many over several days in different spots of town. I never saw him but it made the paper every year. Must have been a decade he did this for. The guy died last year, he made the paper but up until then he stayed out of the news himself and let those he gave to be interviewed. I wonder how many towns have guys like that

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Who the fuk drinks tea anymore? Anyway I received some gifts for my students everyday sometimes sweet sometimes a box of cereal sometimes chocolates Sometimes some juice and on my way back to Port Authority on 8th Avenue and 42nd Street everyday there are plenty of homeless people on the sides of the buildings with their hands out so I just give them the same gift that my students gave me

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Everyone in Britain drinks tea and even more people in Ireland. WTF is your major malfunction numbnuts?

Everyone in Britain drinks tea. Haha you just can't make this stuff up. Dude and you tell other people that they generalize?

On my 23rd birthday I was in Las Vegas and got thrown, literally, out of a place called Pluto's. I was walking around downtown Vegas, back when it was a fun place and not the canopied police station it is now, and a homeless guy asked me to buy him a bottle. You could buy a bottle of Mad Dog, a bottle of Night Train and a half pint of vodka for less than five. We sat in an alley and drank and talked boxing; I woke up in the alley. Life was good, having no sense.

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on my 23rd birthday i was in las vegas and got thrown, literally, out of a place called pluto's. I was walking around downtown vegas, back when it was a fun place and not the canopied police station it is now, and a homeless guy asked me to buy him a bottle. You could buy a bottle of mad dog, a bottle of night train and a half pint of vodka for less than five. We sat in an alley and drank and talked boxing; i woke up in the alley. Life was good, having no sense.

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Today I was drinking a couple Beltian White Ales at the Metals Bank sports bar in Uptown Butte and trying to flirt with the bombshell bartender that is probably not quite 60 percent my age. Out the window I saw a guy in the middle of the intersection yelling and waving his arms, then he started throwing punches at a cop and got rolled up.

The rescue mission in town has been closed and it is about to be bitterly cold. I think that he was trying to get locked up to avoid the weather.

I answered the phone last night and I was saying hello hello hello Joe hello Joe and you couldn't hear me so after 30 seconds I hung up

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Today I was drinking a couple Beltian White Ales at the Metals Bank sports bar in Uptown Butte and trying to flirt with the bombshell bartender that is probably not quite 60 percent my age. Out the window I saw a guy in the middle of the intersection yelling and waving his arms, then he started throwing punches at a cop and got rolled up.

The rescue mission in town has been closed and it is about to be bitterly cold. I think that he was trying to get locked up to avoid the weather.

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Why'd they close the Mission? Real shame around the holidays. Guess it depends where ya live, down here going into holding or a drunk tank you'll be lucky to come out with your shoes. But go in saying hey I slugged a copper you might get extra chalky cheese and grey meat on your jail sammich and get to keep your blanket. Btw did you get a number from the bombshell ;D.

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I answered the phone last night and I was saying hello hello hello Joe hello Joe and you couldn't hear me so after 30 seconds I hung up

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I'll call you later this week

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Today I was drinking a couple Beltian White Ales at the Metals Bank sports bar in Uptown Butte and trying to flirt with the bombshell bartender that is probably not quite 60 percent my age. Out the window I saw a guy in the middle of the intersection yelling and waving his arms, then he started throwing punches at a cop and got rolled up.

The rescue mission in town has been closed and it is about to be bitterly cold. I think that he was trying to get locked up to avoid the weather.

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Why'd they close the Mission? Real shame around the holidays. Guess it depends where ya live, down here going into holding or a drunk tank you'll be lucky to come out with your shoes. But go in saying hey I slugged a copper you might get extra chalky cheese and grey meat on your jail sammich and get to keep your blanket. Btw did you get a number from the bombshell ;D.

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They got shut down over health code violations, which is hard to do here. There has been a couple efforts to open in a new spot but the people in those areas saw what happened in the original location and blocked it.
No, I did not, not yet. She would probably think I want it to set up a shuffleboard match with her father.

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I answered the phone last night and I was saying hello hello hello Joe hello Joe and you couldn't hear me so after 30 seconds I hung up

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I'll call you later this week

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Don't do it grey, you will regret it

Actually, I heard that it's better to give homeless women feminine products instead of money, so I rushed off to buy some, put it in a paper bag (for privacy and dignity) and gave it to this homeless woman I saw in a shop doorway.

She gratefully took the bag and looked into it. There was a long pause and she looked into my eyes ...

"What the fuck am I going to do with an iron?"

There are more homeless people here in Vancouver than ever before. Most of them are older men. I usually give them a little money and offer to buy them food.

There are a few younger people here who are professional panhandlers - I don't give to them.

I think for many it's a lifestyle they choose. Obviously there are some truly sad stories but many I have known have screwed over everyone who cared or tried to help them, leaving them no one else to turn to or care. Some don't wish to work, want to drink and do drugs (I wish I could as well) but you need to step up and take some responsibility.

2016 statistics for New York City just in we have 167,500 homeless people in New York City. The total number of beds in homeless shelters in New York City is 72,000.

That means there are 95,000 homeless people on the street who cannot get any beds in homeless shelters.

I step over literally 20 or 30 homeless people every day whether it's on the sidewalk or on the subway platforms or going up and down the stairs in the tunnels I literally step over 20 or 30 homeless people per day. Any of you people want to live a couple of years in New York City I do not believe you will give a rat's ass any longer about any homeless person.

@Beanz

You know Brock, you're bound to get criticized for this... but you make a good point. A person subjected to the same thing day in and day out... and in quantities... tend to get desensitized. Example: Here in P.R. we have stray dog issues. As is to be expected, you routinely see dead dogs on the road, victims of the obvious traffic that uses the roads. I've seen people from other places without stray dog issues be completely horrified at their first sight of a dead dog on the street. But years of living with these conditions tend to become immune to that. Same goes for crime-ridden neighbors anywhere in the world with high murder rates. Pretty sure at some point people accept it as part of daily life, and just keep on going about their business.

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You know Brock, you're bound to get criticized for this... but you make a good point. A person subjected to the same thing day in and day out... and in quantities... tend to get desensitized. Example: Here in P.R. we have stray dog issues. As is to be expected, you routinely see dead dogs on the road, victims of the obvious traffic that uses the roads. I've seen people from other places without stray dog issues be completely horrified at their first sight of a dead dog on the street. But years of living with these conditions tend to become immune to that. Same goes for crime-ridden neighbors anywhere in the world with high murder rates. Pretty sure at some point people accept it as part of daily life, and just keep on going about their business.

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You hit the nail on the head Tito. I have found that people who lead sheltered lives in little towns which are secluded from high population areas ...little towns in which there are absolutely no dangers or threats or challenges..... become very delicate and find things like homelessness Etc such a shocking thing. Unfortunately these are the people who are dictating public policy in the world ....people who live in Ivory Towers far away from everybody are the ones to tell the inner cities what they should do and what's horrifying and what's not horrifying. It's almost a passive-aggressive version of Let them eat cake. I personally have found nothing more grotesque than white rich people's horror at quite normal everyday things

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I think for many it's a lifestyle they choose. Obviously there are some truly sad stories but many I have known have screwed over everyone who cared or tried to help them, leaving them no one else to turn to or care. Some don't wish to work, want to drink and do drugs (I wish I could as well) but you need to step up and take some responsibility.

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Yeh everyone's circumstances are different as is environment. I definitely have an age bias when it comes to homelessness. And there are tons of working people who drink and drug regularly working the fingers to the bone.

and wth did Walmart stop allowing Salvation army kettles? Might be a local thing but none to be seen yesterday, meanwhile 2 old gals roaming the gas station and parking lot for 'something to eat', not 'got any money'. Makes sense :p. I cannot walk away from someone asking for a meal.

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You know Brock, you're bound to get criticized for this... but you make a good point. A person subjected to the same thing day in and day out... and in quantities... tend to get desensitized. Example: Here in P.R. we have stray dog issues. As is to be expected, you routinely see dead dogs on the road, victims of the obvious traffic that uses the roads. I've seen people from other places without stray dog issues be completely horrified at their first sight of a dead dog on the street. But years of living with these conditions tend to become immune to that. Same goes for crime-ridden neighbors anywhere in the world with high murder rates. Pretty sure at some point people accept it as part of daily life, and just keep on going about their business.

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You hit the nail on the head Tito. I have found that people who lead sheltered lives in little towns which are secluded from high population areas ...little towns in which there are absolutely no dangers or threats or challenges..... become very delicate and find things like homelessness Etc such a shocking thing. Unfortunately these are the people who are dictating public policy in the world ....people who live in Ivory Towers far away from everybody are the ones to tell the inner cities what they should do and what's horrifying and what's not horrifying. It's almost a passive-aggressive version of Let them eat cake. I personally have found nothing more grotesque than white rich people's horror at quite normal everyday things

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Have a shit Christmas Brockton you clueless assuming arrogant little cunt ;D

how dare you wish me a Happy Christmas you cocksucker when I did not wish you a Happy Hannukah. ;D

Wrexham has a problem with homeless people on the streets begging etc drug addled really a big problem that the town center is dirty shop entrances are stinking of shit and piss and sick.
I see most people buying them food and hot drinks not giving money, trouble is you are fueling there habits drugs drink some will never improve themselves some have mental health issues.
I am not sure what can be done Wrexham through the years on had a couple of homeless in the town center now there is well over a hundred plus.:(

London Euston station hosted a Christmas lunch for 200 homeless people.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/lond...-a3726886.html

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London Euston station hosted a Christmas lunch for 200 homeless people.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/lond...-a3726886.html

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Plenty of food kitchens in soup kitchens here in New York constantly feeding these people. But that doesn't get rid of the problem does it

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You know Brock, you're bound to get criticized for this... but you make a good point. A person subjected to the same thing day in and day out... and in quantities... tend to get desensitized. Example: Here in P.R. we have stray dog issues. As is to be expected, you routinely see dead dogs on the road, victims of the obvious traffic that uses the roads. I've seen people from other places without stray dog issues be completely horrified at their first sight of a dead dog on the street. But years of living with these conditions tend to become immune to that. Same goes for crime-ridden neighbors anywhere in the world with high murder rates. Pretty sure at some point people accept it as part of daily life, and just keep on going about their business.

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You hit the nail on the head Tito. I have found that people who lead sheltered lives in little towns which are secluded from high population areas ...little towns in which there are absolutely no dangers or threats or challenges..... become very delicate and find things like homelessness Etc such a shocking thing. Unfortunately these are the people who are dictating public policy in the world ....people who live in Ivory Towers far away from everybody are the ones to tell the inner cities what they should do and what's horrifying and what's not horrifying. It's almost a passive-aggressive version of Let them eat cake. I personally have found nothing more grotesque than white rich people's horror at quite normal everyday things

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I definitely agree that people get inured to and used to things they see regularly. It's much harder to survive in a small town if you're homeless, so there's are more homeless people in big cities. There is more crime, more opportunity and more diversity in cities, so city-livers are more used to those things.

I don't agree that there are never dangers, threats or challenges in small towns though. Everywhere has its positives and negatives. Also, just because someone is horrified at the number of homeless people it doesn't make them wrong. In an ideal world, nobody would be homeless would they?

I'm not sure about the situation in America, but in the UK it is not the people in little towns and villages who influence public policy. The population density in the country is much much less than in our big cities, so they have less Members of Parliament than those people who are in big urban areas. In Britain it is the urban metropolitan city dwellers who really drove public policy and many laws.

It's possible that the Brexit vote was largely driven by rural voters who felt 'left behind' by the metropolitan elite (though there are many conflicting theories about that admittedly)