During that era was there a time when they were all at the same weight and could they have fought each other or was Jones at 168?
Who would have lasted the longest against RJ?
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During that era was there a time when they were all at the same weight and could they have fought each other or was Jones at 168?
Who would have lasted the longest against RJ?
Benn and Eubank both moved up to super middle a couple of years before Roy did. I think they were both on the slide by the time Roy was at 168 and wouldn't have had a realistic shot. Eubanks would have likely gone 12 though, Benn very unlikely to imo.
Anything can happen in a fight, and both Benn and Eubank were murderous punchers. Eubank was the more unorthodox, and Benn was the more aggressive. That being said, I see Roy winning the majority of the time, barring any crazy punch. Eubank likely lasts the distance due to his punch, chin, and unorthodox style, with Benn likely not lasting due to his aggression and stamina issues. As much as I would've loved to have seen Roy vs both, I would've preferred Mcallum and/or Toney vs both.
Benn I think would.be stopped very early
Eubank I think could cause him serious issues and make it close... Even potentially pull something off... Although you have to.favour Roy
Jones would beat both on the same night, one after the other after a hard game of basketball.
You couldnt count either out litterally!
Jones would be up to his neck in it with both! I would favour Eubank to win but still wouldnt bet against Benn.
The yanks get over rated sometimes.
It's possible I suppose that Eubank or Benn could win, but I reckon RJJ would beat them both fairly easily.
And I think that sometimes it's the Brits that get over rated.
Fighters from anywhere will be overrated by people who see some kind of vested interest in them.
McClellan was someone who had beaten Jones inbthe ams and Jones openly stated he would pnt want to face him in the pros. Benn survived him and I think his aggreson and pressure could put Jones in a shell.
Eubank was just a hard awkward bastard that could hurt you at any point with a crazy overhand right.
I thought they were friends, sharing a passion for torturing animals or whatever. Besides, that's the ams! The only opponent Roy and Benn shared in the pros was THua Malinga, how did those fights go? Eubank also openly stated Roy would have beaten him and he would've only fought him if it was his mandatory :pQuote:
Originally Posted by ross
Benn survived the G-Man so that means he can beat Jones. The G-Man beat Jones in the AMs is the proof. It's one of the dumbest arguments I've ever seen.
I don't mean to be rude but come the f on with that ignorance.
I give Benn a literals punchers chance vs any fighter who has stepped between the ropes. For as much the passion and some recklessness as the power. He wouldn't try to think, posture and work in between Roys reflex which was damn near impossible. Benn v Jones seemed close there for a minute or at least talked up but zero chance promotions would budge. Would have at least been explosive. Also seem to remember Roy hated airports and travel. at least until Jim Lampley stopped yelling.
those who have been on this board for a while know that I'm one of Roy's biggest critics when it comes to his quality of opposition and historical ranking. That being said, Roy was special during his prime. Once in a lifetime special.
Eubank and Benn were great fighters, but they weren't once in a lifetime special. 168 lb Roy would feast on aggression. Guys would walk into his left hook or hybrid uppercut and that was the fight (Thomas Tate, Bryant Brannon, Merqui Sosa...etc.). Benn would come to destroy and walk right into something big.
Roy's toughest fights were always with boxers who had solid skills and defense. Think of his fights vs Hop, Montell, and even Eric Harding. Prime Roy would have issues with Eubanks combination of awkward style, speed, reflexes, counter punching ability, and power. That being said, Roy was special and would find a way to win the fight the majority of the time.
While Eubank and Benn were not as great as Roy, they were both legitimate one punch threats, and great fighters, so they definitely belonged in a ring with Roy and could have pulled the upset, if they landed the right punch.
Ross is "reaching" with his argument so much that he has fallen over and fell flat on his face.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Swanson
Nigel benn vs the G-man(hate spelling his surname!) is still the greatest fight I have ever witnessed in regards to nigel Benn and his warrior heart.
Jones would beat benn anytime and Eubanks in a decision but would have struggled with JC in his prime but still have pulled out the win.
Think at 168 Benn was showing a bit more boxing smarts with that attack. Can see exact scenario of Jones timing him and short circuiting him for sure but Benn would be miles above the approach of those three. Sosa and Tate had just been through buzzsaws and Benn was on a completely different level with his own instant eraser of a punch. Right on about Harding, think he may have given Jones better fight than even a Hopkins. Think that effort gets overlooked a bit and how injury and result basically nose dive a quality fighter.Quote:
Originally Posted by mikeeod
I loved Nigel Benn and I've met him quite a few times. He would have a puncher's chance against anybody and his early rounds assault was as thrilling an anybody who has stepped in a ring.
Having said that, I was never convinced that he was a true super middleweight. He was nearly always smaller than his opponents at that weight and (for example) Chris Eubank always looked a couple of weight divisions bigger. Nigel did seem to gas out later on in fights too.
its possible that Benn steamrolls Jones, catches him early and totally obliterates him ...... But I think it's much more likely that Jones gets through a couple of uncomfortable rounds and then begins to assert his authority in there, causing the ref to step in to protect a defenceless Benn in or around the ninth round.
Eubank was a totally different proposition. Big, strong, granite chin and will and a really awkward style that was always difficult to look good against. A master at lacing, and stealing rests and an intelligent fighter inside the ropes.
he would never have seen anything like Jones in the ring and would find himself being outsped by someone even more unorthodox than he was!
I pi really can't see Jones stopping Eubank, nor can I see Eubank out boxing Jones. So for me, this is a points decision to Jones after a bit of a messy stinker of a fight.
I'd favour Roy but can see a scenario where both Benn and Eubank could beat him.
I think Roy v Benn would be an edge of your seat thriller
I agree that RJJ v Benn would be a cracker.......... While it lasted. And I should never dismiss Benn after what happened with McLellan. Maybe it's just me, but I'm surprised so many people think these fights would be close. RJJ at his peak whether MW or SMW was an All time great for a period of time . Benn and Eubank, although both very good and both World Champions really weren't at RJJ's level IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark TKO
Eubank struggled with Watson and was all but beaten in the 2nd fight losing nearly every round. Watson was comprehensively beaten by McCallum.
McCallum would have beaten both of them and Roy was at or above this level.
Jones would have beaten both of them comfortably.
He might have have a more difficult time with Benn due to Nigel's aggression & speed, but I think he would have prevailed via late stoppage.
Jones isn't knocking out Eubank, but Chris just didn't do enough in fights sometimes & there's is no way he'd be able to do all that glove touching, nostril flaring nonsense that he liked; Jones would have bounced an eight punch combo off his head before he finished doing it.