Trump's picks

Serious question:

Is Trump trying to piss his opponents/critics off with his picks so far?
Or are his picks really reflective of his wanting to do what's best for the country?
To me, it looks like he's going more for the "in your face" effect rather than picking conscientiously.
Donald..... we know you won already.
Cool it.


Remember... I'm not a Trump hater.
But I was kinda hoping Trump would put on his "Make America Great Again" hat, and start making some picks for the general good.
Granted, the hardline Dems are going to criticize Trump no matter WHO he picks for his Cabinet and other positions.
But Trump himself can do/undo a lot toward easing the incredible tensions and divisions that have been built up during this electoral process.

Now he also wants to set up residence at Trump Tower instead of the White House?
What..... is he just trying to buck the system at every turn?
Is his term going to be marred by one controversy after another?

(sigh)..... It looks like it's gonna be a long 4 years.

Unless it's a different article than the one that was going around, his wanting to stay in his penthouse was a fake story. I'm not an American or a very political person, but I totally agree that it seems like a joke who he's appointed so far. To be honest, I think he wanted to win the election more than he actually wants to be president, and that he'll be as easily swayed as anyone, his head was never in the game. Wouldn't be surprised if this all implodes at some point.

I am all for giving him a chance, but the way he is potentially letting bankers, lobbyists and neo cons in is very disturbing. I hope Trump realises that when the crash comes his support might very quickly dissipate. It won't just be the left with their pitchforks.

Thing is, Trump needs to think long-term. Instead of picking strictly loyalists (ie: kiss-asses) and extremists with all sorts of controversial baggage, he should be bearing down on his picks and trying to encourage unity, rather than rub his victory into people's faces and letting his ego get in the way of governing. Just as I rail on the cry-babies for continuing to say "He's not my President" and useless shit like that (he WILL be your President, like it or not).... I will also criticize Trump for making bad decisions.

I'm still hoping he proves his critics wrong.

pffffft.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKG7CZfC0JQ

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I'm glad he told that fat cunt Chris Christie to fuck off!

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I'm glad he told that fat cunt Chris Christie to fuck off!

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He just welcomed him back in for a meeting this morning. We're going on 48 hrs of the ring kissing parade.



to title, Pence and Trump really need to get on the same page also. Pence takes the high road after the curtain call of that play, while Trump goes Twitter happy "demanding" apologies and how it should not be allowed. They seriously need to follow Clintons example and take a hammer to Trumps phone ffs. The man literally reacts to each and every trivial thing with the speed and passion of a teenager.

Pompeo is absolutely unqualified to head CIA. Bannon is basically a hired henchman who affords Trump his very own slanted media source and tool from within the White House. That to me is dangerous. Trump won and he can run the table in who he picks according to what he ran on. It's his victory to follow up on. Flynn from a military stand point is qualified and aside from some fiery rhetoric seems to be seasoned. Taking paid speaking event from Russian TV aka Putins arm throws me off. Shoe on the other foot and a would be Democrat appointee would be thrashed.

Ah, the same old lines about Putin's TV network. What do you think the BBC or CNN is? They are the real shill organisations. Look at how they have manipulated and lied and encouraged war and warmongers and mocked the public on things like brexit, the monarchy and the Russian 'threat'. RT is where you can find a little reality on these issues.

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This man is going to melt down before he ever reaches his own inaugural. He's completely unprepared for not just the duties of the office, not just the pressure of the office, but with being criticized on television. The Orange Dictator spends his life tweeting against people who don’t like him at 3 a.m in the early hours.

Normally I would be laughing my butt off but Trump, in his dark ways, does not allow for me to indulge in such liberties as he is one “unstable isotope”, capable of anything, anytime.

He would not think anything of going after his detractors with his power as President, and that should have everybody thinking. He is a sociopath, combined with the guilt free ability to habitually lie about facts and figures. He maintains delusions of grandeur, and believes himself to be a legend in his own mind.

Nobody admires him — not even a lot of the people who voted for him.

Trump voters voiced their anger by having a temper tantrum. They elected a man with no military experience, not governing experience, and no interest in public service, who declared bankruptcy six times according to snopes and politifact. Trump cheats his customers, suppliers, and called for the deaths of five innocent men in the case of the Central Park Five.

There is no way this man makes it through a four-year term in the most pressure-laden office in the nation. He’s found himself in a place where he can’t simply fire his critics.

If the human race lasts long enough, biographers are going to have a field day cataloging his fuckedupedness.

The only part of that I highly doubt is that you'd normally ever laugh.

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Originally Posted by TitoFan

Serious question:

Is Trump trying to piss his opponents/critics off with his picks so far?
Or are his picks really reflective of his wanting to do what's best for the country?
To me, it looks like he's going more for the "in your face" effect rather than picking conscientiously.
Donald..... we know you won already.
Cool it.


Remember... I'm not a Trump hater.
But I was kinda hoping Trump would put on his "Make America Great Again" hat, and start making some picks for the general good.
Granted, the hardline Dems are going to criticize Trump no matter WHO he picks for his Cabinet and other positions.
But Trump himself can do/undo a lot toward easing the incredible tensions and divisions that have been built up during this electoral process.

Now he also wants to set up residence at Trump Tower instead of the White House?
What..... is he just trying to buck the system at every turn?
Is his term going to be marred by one controversy after another?

(sigh)..... It looks like it's gonna be a long 4 years.

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OK let me get this straight....Trump hasn't been inaugurated yet but his picks for his Presidential cabinet are "just trying to piss people off"/"in your face"? Trump won the election, he can appoint whomever he likes and even if the Democrats had a problem with it they don't hold enough sway in Congress to do anything about them.

So are you suggesting that Donald Trump should look to embrace the Democrats who got their shit handed to them in the elections? There's a reason (maybe a couple) why the Democrats are no longer in power, perhaps Donald Trump is actually listening to the American people?


I don't like Trump being buddy buddy with Paul Ryan or Mitch McConnell, I think it is above and fucking beyond for Trump to give Mitt Romney the time of day much less consider him for Secretary of State, I think that shows Trump can mend some friendships. Trump also appointed Democrat General Mike Flynn as head of NSA and is reportedly looking at Democrat Michelle Rhee as Secretary of Education.....so again don't allow yourself to fall into the mainstream media narrative that Trump is doing anything wrong or anything poorly....he's not even in office yet, he's IMO doing a fucking fantastic job getting everyone around him in place to start to get to work.


What picks are you upset/unhappy about?

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The only part of that I highly doubt is that you'd normally ever laugh.

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He really is a morose, morbid, joyless Janner isn't he? Whoops I spilled the BEANZ. Get it? @Gandalf @walrus

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Originally Posted by TitoFan

Serious question:

Is Trump trying to piss his opponents/critics off with his picks so far?
Or are his picks really reflective of his wanting to do what's best for the country?
To me, it looks like he's going more for the "in your face" effect rather than picking conscientiously.
Donald..... we know you won already.
Cool it.


Remember... I'm not a Trump hater.
But I was kinda hoping Trump would put on his "Make America Great Again" hat, and start making some picks for the general good.
Granted, the hardline Dems are going to criticize Trump no matter WHO he picks for his Cabinet and other positions.
But Trump himself can do/undo a lot toward easing the incredible tensions and divisions that have been built up during this electoral process.

Now he also wants to set up residence at Trump Tower instead of the White House?
What..... is he just trying to buck the system at every turn?
Is his term going to be marred by one controversy after another?

(sigh)..... It looks like it's gonna be a long 4 years.

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OK let me get this straight....Trump hasn't been inaugurated yet but his picks for his Presidential cabinet are "just trying to piss people off"/"in your face"? Trump won the election, he can appoint whomever he likes and even if the Democrats had a problem with it they don't hold enough sway in Congress to do anything about them.

So are you suggesting that Donald Trump should look to embrace the Democrats who got their shit handed to them in the elections? There's a reason (maybe a couple) why the Democrats are no longer in power, perhaps Donald Trump is actually listening to the American people?


I don't like Trump being buddy buddy with Paul Ryan or Mitch McConnell, I think it is above and fucking beyond for Trump to give Mitt Romney the time of day much less consider him for Secretary of State, I think that shows Trump can mend some friendships. Trump also appointed Democrat General Mike Flynn as head of NSA and is reportedly looking at Democrat Michelle Rhee as Secretary of Education.....so again don't allow yourself to fall into the mainstream media narrative that Trump is doing anything wrong or anything poorly....he's not even in office yet, he's IMO doing a fucking fantastic job getting everyone around him in place to start to get to work.


What picks are you upset/unhappy about?

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That's the way it normally works with Cabinet picks. They're made before the Presidential inauguration.

Rather than pick on individual picks, I'll reiterate my opinion that, given the state of the nation and its divisiveness, especially in the racial front, I would've thought Trump would've been a little more sensitive than to pick a Jeff Sessions or a Steve Bannon. Instead, Trump seems bent on picking a bunch of kiss-asses, to go along with his managerial style in the private sector. You're absolutely right in that he can choose whomever the hell he wants, as part of his prize for winning the Presidency. But we're supposed to be looking here for the common good, not to thumb our noses at the crying Hillary supporters.

I didn't want Hillary to win, which basically means I wanted Trump to win. But I'm not going to subscribe to the theory that a lot of Trump supporters have that "his shit doesn't stink". That is both foolish and dangerous. For example, please let me hear your defense on Trump's penchant for Twitter, which has been described as a teenager's habit of having to lash out on Twitter whenever someone says something he doesn't like. Hopefully he'll be too busy running the country after he gets inaugurated so he'll trash that shitty habit. This last episode demanding an apology from theater cast members for delivering a message to Pence was totally ridiculous, regardless of whether it was an appropriate message or not. The POTUS shouldn't be engaged in that sort of childish back and forth. Or will you dismiss that as just another Trump hater's criticism?

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That's the way it normally works with Cabinet picks. They're made before the Presidential inauguration.

Rather than pick on individual picks, I'll reiterate my opinion that, given the state of the nation and its divisiveness, especially in the racial front, I would've thought Trump would've been a little more sensitive than to pick a Jeff Sessions or a Steve Bannon. Instead, Trump seems bent on picking a bunch of kiss-asses, to go along with his managerial style in the private sector. You're absolutely right in that he can choose whomever the hell he wants, as part of his prize for winning the Presidency. But we're supposed to be looking here for the common good, not to thumb our noses at the crying Hillary supporters.

I didn't want Hillary to win, which basically means I wanted Trump to win. But I'm not going to subscribe to the theory that a lot of Trump supporters have that "his shit doesn't stink". That is both foolish and dangerous. For example, please let me hear your defense on Trump's penchant for Twitter, which has been described as a teenager's habit of having to lash out on Twitter whenever someone says something he doesn't like. Hopefully he'll be too busy running the country after he gets inaugurated so he'll trash that shitty habit. This last episode demanding an apology from theater cast members for delivering a message to Pence was totally ridiculous, regardless of whether it was an appropriate message or not. The POTUS shouldn't be engaged in that sort of childish back and forth. Or will you dismiss that as just another Trump hater's criticism?

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True, but Trump is very well ahead of schedule with his picks. I think only H.W. Bush was clicking along faster and that was because he still had some Reagan picks in place.


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Steve Bannon....ok, what specifically is wrong with Steve Bannon other than he's not someone who takes shit from the mainstream media? I've heard him CALLED an anti-Semite yet I've seen him promote guys like Milo Yiannopolis who is gay and Jewish and David Pollack who is Jewish. Perhaps people dislike a media mogul being so close to a President.....if so, where were these concerns 8 years ago?


The Hillary supporters have overplayed their hand...hopefully they learn from this, if they do not they will fade away. Just because I voted for Trump in their minds I'm a : racist, sexists, bigot, homophobe, Islamophobe, deplorable, and irredeemable.......I think Hillary supporters are just misguided or thinking too much with their hearts rather than using their brains. But there always comes a time when the losing side seeks mercy.....sorry, the Democrats will have to learn their lesson and as Obama said "I won, you can ride in the bus but you have to sit in the back" so turnabout is fair play and that is how it will be.

The best thing about Trump is that he's unknown politically and he has no ties to anything politically. Hopefully this helps him, at the very least it is a start to draining the swamp of Washington DC. I think his suggested policies of keeping those who had worked in the Executive Branch out of lobbying for foreign governments is a good thing, I believe the term limits for Senators and Congressmen to be a good thing....things are going to be different, it doesn't mean they'll be inherently good or bad. The people who voted for Trump are going to attempt to keep him on target, but we'll just have to see what happens.



The 'Hamilton' cast lecturing Mike Pence was uncouth, that said, Trump shouldn't get into that mess. Would the 'Hamilton' cast have lectured Barack Obama??? I doubt it.....those people are there to sing and dance for the public regardless of the public's political views of which there I am sure are many varied ones.

The number of gov employees surpasses manufacturing jobs by 9,977,000.

That ain't the America I know!

Time for Trump to shake it up! Smaller government!

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The number of gov employees surpasses manufacturing jobs by 9,977,000.

That ain't the America I know!

Time for Trump to shake it up! Smaller government!

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There is no reason for government to grow. Ever. Not only do government workers think they have a safe job but they get all the benefits that go with it.....paid for by who exactly? Strip it down. Take away government, eradicate taxes and get back to how we used to run things. A small government by and for the people and enough with the cancer.

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The number of gov employees surpasses manufacturing jobs by 9,977,000.

That ain't the America I know!

Time for Trump to shake it up! Smaller government!

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There is no reason for government to grow. Ever. Not only do government workers think they have a safe job but they get all the benefits that go with it.....paid for by who exactly? Strip it down. Take away government, eradicate taxes and get back to how we used to run things. A small government by and for the people and enough with the cancer.

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Couldn't agree with you more!

Job security is great, but every man and woman must know that if they don't do their job properly, they can be replaced by someone who will.

With these cushy government positions, the unions makes it impossible for the managers to reprimand their workers in any meaningful way.

This destroys productivity, and in turn gives us tax payers a horrible value for our money!

I can hardly think of anything government does that private enterprise couldn't do better and more efficiently!

Where did the middle class go? Did the Wealthy eat them up? Did they go broke? Or has the government just gorged itself at their expense and limited their upward mobility with taxes and regulations?


We've got way too many bureaucrats in this nation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xX_KaStFT8

If Trump doesn't have Hillary Clinton investigated then a lot of people including myself are going to be upset....however I can see that politically NOT investigating her will make things easier for Trump going forward, but I don't like the tough talk and no follow through.

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If Trump doesn't have Hillary Clinton investigated then a lot of people including myself are going to be upset....however I can see that politically NOT investigating her will make things easier for Trump going forward, but I don't like the tough talk and no follow through.

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So u must not like denilson

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If Trump doesn't have Hillary Clinton investigated then a lot of people including myself are going to be upset....however I can see that politically NOT investigating her will make things easier for Trump going forward, but I don't like the tough talk and no follow through.

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I don't mind it too much. I imagine that he was advised that it would just be a waste of time and likely to result in no real significant punishment for Crooked Hillary at the end of the day.

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If Trump doesn't have Hillary Clinton investigated then a lot of people including myself are going to be upset....however I can see that politically NOT investigating her will make things easier for Trump going forward, but I don't like the tough talk and no follow through.

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I don't mind it too much. I imagine that he was advised that it would just be a waste of time and likely to result in no real significant punishment for Crooked Hillary at the end of the day.

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It's one thing to wait until Obama can't pardon her but it's another to not even try....let's be honest, she broke the law, several laws....granted I'm not certain that the Wikileaks emails would be admissible but still I would still like to see her perp walked

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If Trump doesn't have Hillary Clinton investigated then a lot of people including myself are going to be upset....however I can see that politically NOT investigating her will make things easier for Trump going forward, but I don't like the tough talk and no follow through.

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I don't mind it too much. I imagine that he was advised that it would just be a waste of time and likely to result in no real significant punishment for Crooked Hillary at the end of the day.

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It's one thing to wait until Obama can't pardon her but it's another to not even try....let's be honest, she broke the law, several laws....granted I'm not certain that the Wikileaks emails would be admissible but still I would still like to see her perp walked

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We both know she should be in jail ;D

But you need to prove it in a court of law... I'm not a lawyer and don't know the in's and out's of how difficult it would be to get a conviction. If it's a long shot, I don't mind him dropping the issue!

To me it was a smaller issue compared to building the wall, controlling illegal immigration, shrinking government and making America more competitive again. And if he's still serious about doing all those things, which it seems he is, I'll be a happy camper either way! :cool:

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We both know she should be in jail ;D

But you need to prove it in a court of law... I'm not a lawyer and don't know the in's and out's of how difficult it would be to get a conviction. If it's a long shot, I don't mind him dropping the issue!

To me it was a smaller issue compared to building the wall, controlling illegal immigration, shrinking government and making America more competitive again. And if he's still serious about doing all those things, which it seems he is, I'll be a happy camper either way! :cool:

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Fair enough. Hillary in jail would be the icing on the cake.

The wall is a "yuge" deal, nuking TPP is a "yuge" deal...those things MUST happen

****deportation****

***** now****

****all 13 million****

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The wall is a "yuge" deal, nuking TPP is a "yuge" deal...those things MUST happen

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Rapid build... I like the sound of that!

Plug all the holes and then clean house!

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Well, Trump has done a U turn on Clinton, the environment, allowed bankers and lobbyists a free run and now he is going to really do something about the immigration issue? It's like Britain and the phantom exit. There are going to be a lot of let down voters very fast.

Not at all keen on his use of canned press releases or infomercials and trying to close himself off from actual questions and scrutiny. He calls in major press editorialists to lament how "unfair and not right" he perceived some coverage??? Are we sure he isn't wearing one of those safety pins FFS? Family members with zero security clearance meeting with foreign leaders along him and rails against the NY times harder than neo Nazis praising him. You can be a D or an R but as President you WILL be scrutinized and followed by the press. Welcome to Washington.

He's not even in office yet, so fair play and hope he grows up within a few weeks..but this has all the makings of a major shit show.

Trump has never held down a job. He’s never worked for someone else. Until now he’s had free rein to work the hours he wants..

When he takes up office he begins the 12-16 hour days of bright young things one after another, every one of them smarter than him and steeped in competencies he never heard of.

I doubt he understands yet what the biggest ball and chain in the world is really going to be like

And the office of the Presidency ages these guys so bad. Bush and Obama came out of office with grey hair. Maybe Trump’s will fall out.

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Corporations are run as dictatorships and being a dictator is all that he knows. He has no experience listening to other people. His only experience of leadership is ruling as a dictator and being a dictator.

If he’s upset about American twitters – How will he react to a foreign insult/threat ?

Come January 21 he’s going to be able to declare nuclear war.
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I don’t think Trump has any friends. They say this is common among people with money. Hence his Tweeting as a cry for attention.

Yet this fat orange Cheeto sees himself as the new emperor of the world

Once “The Donald” is Coronated I believe he will try and subvert the Constitution and create a Totalitarian system of government.

They obviously need proof that there is such a thing as global warming and they won’t acknowledge it until it’s too late for the planet.

There used to be BC and AD……..now we also have to wait and see what destruction AT (after trump) brings to the human race.

This earth is going to be the seventh circle of hell, Satan has been unleashed

The press has lost all credibility though. You cannot take anything any of them says seriously after the Clinton shenanigans and the press seems to be blind when it comes to banking reform, drone strikes, the collapse of the middle classes, and all other pertinent issues related to the American people. Yet they will give the time of day to any false accusation by a woman. Or made up nonsense about Russian threats. The same media that pushed for war again and again. They have zero status. They are less than zero. It is right to eliminate them and attack them as they sink. They failed their profession long ago.

Trump not going after Clinton for her crimes though is a major red flag and a very predictable one too. It means certain people (Bush, Obama, Clinton etc) are beyond all law and nothing is going to change that. Clinton has been through enough? Really? What about the people in prison for lesser crimes than her? Where is the leniency for them? What about the death and destruction in Libya? Have they been through enough? It's a fraudulent system and Trump has played into it from the start by telling lies, saying one thing and then making a complete U turn. Obama did the same. Trump is doing the same.

Oh dear, Denilson.

Middle age tends to be when a man turns gray. It is something I notice more in my own hair. It is a very nice full head of hair, but the gray streaks are becoming more and more. If a man does not turn more gray between the ages of 40-55, then you would have to assume something is very wrong with him. You sometimes make good points, but this gray/balding one is not one of your best. :)

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The press has lost all credibility though. You cannot take anything any of them says seriously after the Clinton shenanigans and the press seems to be blind when it comes to banking reform, drone strikes, the collapse of the middle classes, and all other pertinent issues related to the American people. Yet they will give the time of day to any false accusation by a woman. Or made up nonsense about Russian threats. The same media that pushed for war again and again. They have zero status. They are less than zero. It is right to eliminate them and attack them as they sink. They failed their profession long ago.

Trump not going after Clinton for her crimes though is a major red flag and a very predictable one too. It means certain people (Bush, Obama, Clinton etc) are beyond all law and nothing is going to change that. Clinton has been through enough? Really? What about the people in prison for lesser crimes than her? Where is the leniency for them? What about the death and destruction in Libya? Have they been through enough? It's a fraudulent system and Trump has played into it from the start by telling lies, saying one thing and then making a complete U turn. Obama did the same. Trump is doing the same.

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A free press is and always has been held to questions by it's like minded competition in the market. They should never be 'eliminated' in exchange for a well rehearsed and agenda driven..or State funded..unchecked unchallenged think tank. Citizens are not idiots. Well most :-X. regardless of some sheep like mentalities or vote results and very much can see through a script. We still have the ability to research and change the channel and cross reference sources. When you only hear what you expect and allow what you want, you learn nothing and prove less. An elected leader playing the victim constantly and avoiding exchanges is not a leader. How long ago was it that Trump was shitting on Clinton for "hiding" or avoiding questions. The White house press corps should not be 'shunned'.

I'll say it again as from day one...we collectively failed 100 percent with run up to Iraq. Off the top I vaguely remember a guy named Ritter who was an inspector in Iraq and he predicted what happened. Of course at the time he was laughed at and called anti American by administration officials. The detractors and those who stood up to speak truth to power were few and very far between.

on aside to the greying issue ;D it'd be better to watch the hair of his Chief of Staff as well as Vice president who is already cleaning up after Trump from time to time. Of course Pence has a head of hair white as a sheet so he can only go bald???

I just think the media has failed not only on Iraq, but with how it handled the election, how it ignores banking, how it ignores illegal drones. They are completely discredited. I honestly think it would do the world a lot of good to have CNN eradicated. They are not a news service. Same with the BBC that leeches off the public with forced donations. It has no credibility after the Scotland referendum, Brexit, fracking etc. They should not be allowed to act as 'news' providers using public money to basically spin and distort. That Putin network really does a much better job of informing than either of those two groups.

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Once “The Donald” is Coronated I believe he will try and subvert the Constitution and create a Totalitarian system of government.

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You may need to watch this before making an ass out of yourself...again
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMY6lOVjQgs

Donald J Trump

Nikki Haley ;D;D Thinking if Romney gets another look let alone appointed then we can officially call BS on this whole anti establishment babble.

On one hand it's a good thing because he needs the experience as he clearly has no idea what he's doing. On the other he's a great conman.