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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Serious question:

    Is Trump trying to piss his opponents/critics off with his picks so far?
    Or are his picks really reflective of his wanting to do what's best for the country?
    To me, it looks like he's going more for the "in your face" effect rather than picking conscientiously.
    Donald..... we know you won already.
    Cool it.


    Remember... I'm not a Trump hater.
    But I was kinda hoping Trump would put on his "Make America Great Again" hat, and start making some picks for the general good.
    Granted, the hardline Dems are going to criticize Trump no matter WHO he picks for his Cabinet and other positions.
    But Trump himself can do/undo a lot toward easing the incredible tensions and divisions that have been built up during this electoral process.

    Now he also wants to set up residence at Trump Tower instead of the White House?
    What..... is he just trying to buck the system at every turn?
    Is his term going to be marred by one controversy after another?

    (sigh)..... It looks like it's gonna be a long 4 years.

    OK let me get this straight....Trump hasn't been inaugurated yet but his picks for his Presidential cabinet are "just trying to piss people off"/"in your face"? Trump won the election, he can appoint whomever he likes and even if the Democrats had a problem with it they don't hold enough sway in Congress to do anything about them.

    So are you suggesting that Donald Trump should look to embrace the Democrats who got their shit handed to them in the elections? There's a reason (maybe a couple) why the Democrats are no longer in power, perhaps Donald Trump is actually listening to the American people?


    I don't like Trump being buddy buddy with Paul Ryan or Mitch McConnell, I think it is above and fucking beyond for Trump to give Mitt Romney the time of day much less consider him for Secretary of State, I think that shows Trump can mend some friendships. Trump also appointed Democrat General Mike Flynn as head of NSA and is reportedly looking at Democrat Michelle Rhee as Secretary of Education.....so again don't allow yourself to fall into the mainstream media narrative that Trump is doing anything wrong or anything poorly....he's not even in office yet, he's IMO doing a fucking fantastic job getting everyone around him in place to start to get to work.


    What picks are you upset/unhappy about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Serious question:

    Is Trump trying to piss his opponents/critics off with his picks so far?
    Or are his picks really reflective of his wanting to do what's best for the country?
    To me, it looks like he's going more for the "in your face" effect rather than picking conscientiously.
    Donald..... we know you won already.
    Cool it.


    Remember... I'm not a Trump hater.
    But I was kinda hoping Trump would put on his "Make America Great Again" hat, and start making some picks for the general good.
    Granted, the hardline Dems are going to criticize Trump no matter WHO he picks for his Cabinet and other positions.
    But Trump himself can do/undo a lot toward easing the incredible tensions and divisions that have been built up during this electoral process.

    Now he also wants to set up residence at Trump Tower instead of the White House?
    What..... is he just trying to buck the system at every turn?
    Is his term going to be marred by one controversy after another?

    (sigh)..... It looks like it's gonna be a long 4 years.

    OK let me get this straight....Trump hasn't been inaugurated yet but his picks for his Presidential cabinet are "just trying to piss people off"/"in your face"? Trump won the election, he can appoint whomever he likes and even if the Democrats had a problem with it they don't hold enough sway in Congress to do anything about them.

    So are you suggesting that Donald Trump should look to embrace the Democrats who got their shit handed to them in the elections? There's a reason (maybe a couple) why the Democrats are no longer in power, perhaps Donald Trump is actually listening to the American people?


    I don't like Trump being buddy buddy with Paul Ryan or Mitch McConnell, I think it is above and fucking beyond for Trump to give Mitt Romney the time of day much less consider him for Secretary of State, I think that shows Trump can mend some friendships. Trump also appointed Democrat General Mike Flynn as head of NSA and is reportedly looking at Democrat Michelle Rhee as Secretary of Education.....so again don't allow yourself to fall into the mainstream media narrative that Trump is doing anything wrong or anything poorly....he's not even in office yet, he's IMO doing a fucking fantastic job getting everyone around him in place to start to get to work.


    What picks are you upset/unhappy about?



    That's the way it normally works with Cabinet picks. They're made before the Presidential inauguration.

    Rather than pick on individual picks, I'll reiterate my opinion that, given the state of the nation and its divisiveness, especially in the racial front, I would've thought Trump would've been a little more sensitive than to pick a Jeff Sessions or a Steve Bannon. Instead, Trump seems bent on picking a bunch of kiss-asses, to go along with his managerial style in the private sector. You're absolutely right in that he can choose whomever the hell he wants, as part of his prize for winning the Presidency. But we're supposed to be looking here for the common good, not to thumb our noses at the crying Hillary supporters.

    I didn't want Hillary to win, which basically means I wanted Trump to win. But I'm not going to subscribe to the theory that a lot of Trump supporters have that "his shit doesn't stink". That is both foolish and dangerous. For example, please let me hear your defense on Trump's penchant for Twitter, which has been described as a teenager's habit of having to lash out on Twitter whenever someone says something he doesn't like. Hopefully he'll be too busy running the country after he gets inaugurated so he'll trash that shitty habit. This last episode demanding an apology from theater cast members for delivering a message to Pence was totally ridiculous, regardless of whether it was an appropriate message or not. The POTUS shouldn't be engaged in that sort of childish back and forth. Or will you dismiss that as just another Trump hater's criticism?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    That's the way it normally works with Cabinet picks. They're made before the Presidential inauguration.

    Rather than pick on individual picks, I'll reiterate my opinion that, given the state of the nation and its divisiveness, especially in the racial front, I would've thought Trump would've been a little more sensitive than to pick a Jeff Sessions or a Steve Bannon. Instead, Trump seems bent on picking a bunch of kiss-asses, to go along with his managerial style in the private sector. You're absolutely right in that he can choose whomever the hell he wants, as part of his prize for winning the Presidency. But we're supposed to be looking here for the common good, not to thumb our noses at the crying Hillary supporters.

    I didn't want Hillary to win, which basically means I wanted Trump to win. But I'm not going to subscribe to the theory that a lot of Trump supporters have that "his shit doesn't stink". That is both foolish and dangerous. For example, please let me hear your defense on Trump's penchant for Twitter, which has been described as a teenager's habit of having to lash out on Twitter whenever someone says something he doesn't like. Hopefully he'll be too busy running the country after he gets inaugurated so he'll trash that shitty habit. This last episode demanding an apology from theater cast members for delivering a message to Pence was totally ridiculous, regardless of whether it was an appropriate message or not. The POTUS shouldn't be engaged in that sort of childish back and forth. Or will you dismiss that as just another Trump hater's criticism?
    True, but Trump is very well ahead of schedule with his picks. I think only H.W. Bush was clicking along faster and that was because he still had some Reagan picks in place.


    Jeff Sessions
    In Alabama, Jeff Sessions Desegregated Schools and Got the Death Penalty for KKK Murderer | The Weekly Standard


    Steve Bannon....ok, what specifically is wrong with Steve Bannon other than he's not someone who takes shit from the mainstream media? I've heard him CALLED an anti-Semite yet I've seen him promote guys like Milo Yiannopolis who is gay and Jewish and David Pollack who is Jewish. Perhaps people dislike a media mogul being so close to a President.....if so, where were these concerns 8 years ago?


    The Hillary supporters have overplayed their hand...hopefully they learn from this, if they do not they will fade away. Just because I voted for Trump in their minds I'm a : racist, sexists, bigot, homophobe, Islamophobe, deplorable, and irredeemable.......I think Hillary supporters are just misguided or thinking too much with their hearts rather than using their brains. But there always comes a time when the losing side seeks mercy.....sorry, the Democrats will have to learn their lesson and as Obama said "I won, you can ride in the bus but you have to sit in the back" so turnabout is fair play and that is how it will be.

    The best thing about Trump is that he's unknown politically and he has no ties to anything politically. Hopefully this helps him, at the very least it is a start to draining the swamp of Washington DC. I think his suggested policies of keeping those who had worked in the Executive Branch out of lobbying for foreign governments is a good thing, I believe the term limits for Senators and Congressmen to be a good thing....things are going to be different, it doesn't mean they'll be inherently good or bad. The people who voted for Trump are going to attempt to keep him on target, but we'll just have to see what happens.



    The 'Hamilton' cast lecturing Mike Pence was uncouth, that said, Trump shouldn't get into that mess. Would the 'Hamilton' cast have lectured Barack Obama I doubt it.....those people are there to sing and dance for the public regardless of the public's political views of which there I am sure are many varied ones.
    Last edited by El Kabong; 11-22-2016 at 08:04 AM.

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    The number of gov employees surpasses manufacturing jobs by 9,977,000.

    That ain't the America I know!

    Time for Trump to shake it up! Smaller government!

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    Quote Originally Posted by vidgil View Post
    The number of gov employees surpasses manufacturing jobs by 9,977,000.

    That ain't the America I know!

    Time for Trump to shake it up! Smaller government!
    There is no reason for government to grow. Ever. Not only do government workers think they have a safe job but they get all the benefits that go with it.....paid for by who exactly? Strip it down. Take away government, eradicate taxes and get back to how we used to run things. A small government by and for the people and enough with the cancer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by vidgil View Post
    The number of gov employees surpasses manufacturing jobs by 9,977,000.

    That ain't the America I know!

    Time for Trump to shake it up! Smaller government!
    There is no reason for government to grow. Ever. Not only do government workers think they have a safe job but they get all the benefits that go with it.....paid for by who exactly? Strip it down. Take away government, eradicate taxes and get back to how we used to run things. A small government by and for the people and enough with the cancer.
    Couldn't agree with you more!

    Job security is great, but every man and woman must know that if they don't do their job properly, they can be replaced by someone who will.

    With these cushy government positions, the unions makes it impossible for the managers to reprimand their workers in any meaningful way.

    This destroys productivity, and in turn gives us tax payers a horrible value for our money!

    I can hardly think of anything government does that private enterprise couldn't do better and more efficiently!

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    Where did the middle class go? Did the Wealthy eat them up? Did they go broke? Or has the government just gorged itself at their expense and limited their upward mobility with taxes and regulations?


    We've got way too many bureaucrats in this nation

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