This place has run its course......

I would bet new membership is at a massive decline and if it isn't they don't come back after a few trips. I remember joining I think around 2004? And it was awesome! I quit coming on around 2007 when my father was sick. Had things to take care of. I couldn't remember my log in so I had
To make a new One. Seems like a few stragglers hung on and now are moderators and god forbid you say or do something they don't like. But that's not even the whole issue. This place is simply a ghost town now. I don't even see the purpose of it. The few floyd haters and GGG lovers could just text each other about their obsessions. I won't name
names because I'm not picking on certain individuals they are who they are. But if requested I could tell you and comment here how some of them are beyond sickening. If it won't get deleted. Or if this doesn't. Opinions aren't allowed here unless you conform it seems like. This is like a night club well past it's shelf life. Like the old tavern nobody goes to that's hanging on a string with a few bitter people with a few things in common. I would guess this went from the number one forum (at least it felt that way back 10-15yrs ago) to the worst. Same lame topics, same people saying same stuff, same posts that rarely change. I'll log in and the newest thread or one commented on and it was the day before. Nothing new here. The old restaurant that never ulgraded or viewed change as a positive. Almost like a dictatorship with the ones still here that were here in the beginning. I'm sure this will get moved to spam so nobody sees it and I'm sure it won't be hard to guess who moved it. Or deleted because god forbid anyone have an opinion on this place. The stale posts are more exciting for some. Those big companies that couldn't take constructive criticism sure went on to be successful before being auctioned off.

Mods, please don't move this. I'm intrigued at some of the stuff you've said. "Nobody can have an opinion if it doesn't conform." I don't see that myself.
Now I wasn't here in the "good old days", but I quite like this forum.
You talk about change, but what changes can be made? It is what it is, do you want a fanfare to play every time you get a like or something ?
Could it possibly be that it is YOU that have changed and not the forum?
Finally , you talk about "I could name names" , we'll crack on and do so. If you're leaving again , what have you got to lose?
I hope you get what you are looking for.

I don’t see anything that indicates you have to conform to anything. I do agree that this place has slowed down quite a bit over the past year or so. I’ve been on a few message boards over the past 15 years or so and they all eventually die out for some reason. I don’t know why.

I will be here forever. I have nothing else in my life but boxing.

Every so often you'll get the I'm leaving thread. Or the this place is shit thread. The people who make these threads generally don't contribute much. Don't give the place the injection of life it apparently needs. People come, people go, things change. I wish lots of people would come back to the forum. Some just knowing they were still alive would be enough. I've never known anyone post an I'm leaving or an it's shit here thread and thought I'm really going to miss that guy/girl.

Master that was fucking tragic :)

This a proper boxing forum face book have a few but there are many fucking idiots posting in truth there knowledge of boxing to say is pathetic
touch pad warriors not like US keyboard warriors.;D

Oh well, you could have tried starting a few threads yourself, I mean you know what is lacking so give it a little injection of your own, create a thread that will spark a serious debate that is worthy of your own adoration...

Or you could just disappear forever, I'm cool with either scenario

Saddo boxing is a bloody good forum people come and go why knock it contribute start some threads is Brock frightening people off I wonder,;D hell he looks a bugger with that black paint on his head.:vd:

Firstly and more importantly, sorry to hear about your old man and what hardships came upon the family. We've all been there to one degree or another and when real life steps in a forum of any sort is usually last thought. Other times it's a weekly daily escape. Works differently for people and to each their own. As mentioned above posters come and posters go, some just change their names for whatever reason and some become old furniture that never leaves the home. The depth and individuality makes this place and it keeps me coming back. You took ten yrs off and now dip your toe in the water again with 16 posts only to knock it about rather quickly, not entirely fair maybe but hope ya give yourself a chance. It's not a competition, just some guys and gals yapping about a sport they like. And other nonsense on certain other boards ;D.

In fairness everything seems and feels 'fresher' when it's new to us and there are few days that go by where we don't reminisce about first days gone by and the good ol days. I mean you're talking 10-15 yrs bud. Take the good of then and move forward with it now. But none of us can 'go back' in life. Likewise new members today or not so new can't be held to times they never knew or judged in comparison nor should they. Now is now. Happens when you grow older and it happens here and it's pretty much the backbone of some boxing forums. Reflection and highlights, backbone of the sport really. But have to disagree to this not being a completely open place and just don't see these opinions being shot down or disallowed that you mention. Mere fact that you shoot across the bow..dictatorship really?..but people come in asking and giving opinion speaks to that. I've been on a decade which pales to some grizzled wankers before me ;D and honestly cannot remember a single time when I was told 'do not say that'. And make no mistake..Saddo Boxing still kicks plenty o arse and that's not a mod speaking or looking for brownie points, that's from a boxing fan who got tired of watching fights with clueless people and his dog ;D. Relax mate and have fun with it, or don't.

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I would bet new membership is at a massive decline and if it isn't they don't come back after a few trips. I remember joining I think around 2004? And it was awesome! I quit coming on around 2007 when my father was sick. Had things to take care of. I couldn't remember my log in so I had
To make a new One. Seems like a few stragglers hung on and now are moderators and god forbid you say or do something they don't like. But that's not even the whole issue. This place is simply a ghost town now. I don't even see the purpose of it. The few floyd haters and GGG lovers could just text each other about their obsessions. I won't name
names because I'm not picking on certain individuals they are who they are. But if requested I could tell you and comment here how some of them are beyond sickening. If it won't get deleted. Or if this doesn't. Opinions aren't allowed here unless you conform it seems like. This is like a night club well past it's shelf life. Like the old tavern nobody goes to that's hanging on a string with a few bitter people with a few things in common. I would guess this went from the number one forum (at least it felt that way back 10-15yrs ago) to the worst. Same lame topics, same people saying same stuff, same posts that rarely change. I'll log in and the newest thread or one commented on and it was the day before. Nothing new here. The old restaurant that never ulgraded or viewed change as a positive. Almost like a dictatorship with the ones still here that were here in the beginning. I'm sure this will get moved to spam so nobody sees it and I'm sure it won't be hard to guess who moved it. Or deleted because god forbid anyone have an opinion on this place. The stale posts are more exciting for some. Those big companiesos that couldn't take constructive criticism sure went on to be successful before being auctioned off.

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You are right, ever since @Master became a mod the place is shit

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Every so often you'll get the I'm leaving thread. Or the this place is shit thread. The people who make these threads generally don't contribute much. Don't give the place the injection of life it apparently needs. People come, people go, things change. I wish lots of people would come back to the forum. Some just knowing they were still alive would be enough. I've never known anyone post an I'm leaving or an it's shit here thread and thought I'm really going to miss that guy/girl.

Master that was fucking tragic :)

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I know of at least 4 posters that would miss me. 3 more that would like to see me tortured too. It's what makes a legend most.

The forum is what it is. I find it ironic that people who never start any threads or post have the cheek to say that the direction is wrong or that it is this and that. Make the content. You can drive the car if you put the key in the ignition and put your foot down. You can be the most thought provoking or deathly quiet poster that you want to be. I don't start so many threads myself because I just want a quiet life, but that's where it is on others to rock the boat and push their own narratives, to make their own discussion etc. You want the forum to do certain things, then start some threads! I think all too many people just want to read the script, eat the popcorn, but give very little of themselves in return. It means they go missing, they avoid making that post, they never start that thread. It is those guys that let the forum down. Be brave, step out of the shadows, get on the stage and stare down the JFAT deniers.

what a horrid slime-ball would write that ***MUCOUSY ASS-SALIVA*** only a piece of sand-paper would vomit so vile and revolting as the OP has done.

http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...tid=4281&stc=1

Brock are you midway through a prostate examination in that picture?

Thinly veiled Master is a cunt thread.

10 years ago other social media platforms had yet to explode - facebook, twitter, youtube, etc. People today can talk directly to their heroes let alone boxing people and fellow fans. There's at least four popular prolific posters from back in the day that started their OWN forums and I regularly see a name from the past pop up in boxing timelines on twitter, and I'm not even a twitter member, just regularly read a handful of boxing people/writers

Two points...

1. It's revealing that your post @RedLeatherMafia named just TWO fighters. There's currently topics on the first page of this forum that consists of 40 different fighters being discussed. In the six months you've re-joined here you've made 17 posts. Of those 17 you've mentioned FOUR fighters - 12 posts have been about Floyd and GGG, one about Loma and one about Shannon Briggs.

Your opinion of GGG and Loma is - "white trash overrated homos"

2. The notion that "Opinions aren't allowed unless you conform" is complete and utter nonsense (see above). Not even Master abuses his position to the point of censoring boxing opinions (he is a childish hater though which is why you've got upset reading his anti-Floyd posts).

Seriously, you know a few popular fighters then come on a forum like this and think it's dead because there's not a million threads about Floyd being TBE or GGG being an overrated great white hype. 40 fighters being discussed, dozens and dozens of fights yet you've commented on TWO - May-Mac and GGG-Canelo.

Try watching some boxing then you'd be able to get involved with the dozens and dozens of other fights and fighters that people are chatting about.

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I would bet new membership is at a massive decline and if it isn't they don't come back after a few trips. I remember joining I think around 2004? And it was awesome! I quit coming on around 2007 when my father was sick. Had things to take care of. I couldn't remember my log in so I had
To make a new One. Seems like a few stragglers hung on and now are moderators and god forbid you say or do something they don't like. But that's not even the whole issue. This place is simply a ghost town now. I don't even see the purpose of it. The few floyd haters and GGG lovers could just text each other about their obsessions. I won't name
names because I'm not picking on certain individuals they are who they are. But if requested I could tell you and comment here how some of them are beyond sickening. If it won't get deleted. Or if this doesn't. Opinions aren't allowed here unless you conform it seems like. This is like a night club well past it's shelf life. Like the old tavern nobody goes to that's hanging on a string with a few bitter people with a few things in common. I would guess this went from the number one forum (at least it felt that way back 10-15yrs ago) to the worst. Same lame topics, same people saying same stuff, same posts that rarely change. I'll log in and the newest thread or one commented on and it was the day before. Nothing new here. The old restaurant that never ulgraded or viewed change as a positive. Almost like a dictatorship with the ones still here that were here in the beginning. I'm sure this will get moved to spam so nobody sees it and I'm sure it won't be hard to guess who moved it. Or deleted because god forbid anyone have an opinion on this place. The stale posts are more exciting for some. Those big companiesos that couldn't take constructive criticism sure went on to be successful before being auctioned off.

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You are right, ever since @Master became a mod the place is shit

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Still not managed to get rid of you yet.

If this place has run its course then why are you still posting here ?
Doesn't your thread prove this place has not run its course ?

Ridiculous thread.

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what a horrid slime-ball would write that ***MUCOUSY ASS-SALIVA*** only a piece of sand-paper would vomit so vile and revolting as the OP has done.

http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...tid=4281&stc=1

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Put some clothes on man.:vd:

I saw one of those things Brock is holding on Embarrassing Bodies a couple of weeks back. Its a stretcher for ladies born without a proper vagina. You stick one in and gradually increase the size until you've got a regular sized snatch. Brock is obviously sticking them up his arse and surprised at how far he's progressed. He's got a traffic cone up there now, backwards.

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Two points...

1. It's revealing that your post @RedLeatherMafia named just TWO fighters. There's currently topics on the first page of this forum that consists of 40 different fighters being discussed. In the six months you've re-joined here you've made 17 posts. Of those 17 you've mentioned FOUR fighters - 12 posts have been about Floyd and GGG, one about Loma and one about Shannon Briggs.

Your opinion of GGG and Loma is - "white trash overrated homos"

2. The notion that "Opinions aren't allowed unless you conform" is complete and utter nonsense (see above). Not even Master abuses his position to the point of censoring boxing opinions (he is a childish hater though which is why you've got upset reading his anti-Floyd posts).

Seriously, you know a few popular fighters then come on a forum like this and think it's dead because there's not a million threads about Floyd being TBE or GGG being an overrated great white hype. 40 fighters being discussed, dozens and dozens of fights yet you've commented on TWO - May-Mac and GGG-Canelo.

Try watching some boxing then you'd be able to get involved with the dozens and dozens of other fights and fighters that people are chatting about.

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Wow. You did your research. Haha.

Rather than exiting quietly, a "this place sucks!.." on the way out the door, definitely sounds like someone a$$ is chaffed about something. Most of the news sites forums and facebook feeds I read seem to be filled with casuals that have rather polarizing opinions. There are a few knowledgeable people out there willing to back up their opinion, but usually those people get ignored or bombarded with insults by the Keyboard warriors that "know everything" from watching a highlight videos or what kellerman or lampley said. I'm not saying we don't get those here from time to time, but usually they either don't stay long or they kind of get up to speed and tone down the loud baseless stuff and actually settle in and start give opinions back that people are going to respond to. Even if its only just a clicking of the like button as a response.

I used to post on the HBO forums (it was just a mess of people trying to talk over each other with noone listening- all give, no take) before I joined here 12 years ago (wow has it been that long) but I would say I started posting more and more here as the years went by. When someone says something that gets me to jump at the reply button or a thread that has my opinions are flying out of my mouth before my eyes have finished the title, I start typing furiously. There's other threads that i actually might start typing and then just decide not to post because its not really adding anything. My posts can be long winded and may not be everyone's particular brand of vodka, and some people may rebut and others maybe wont even read and just skip, but i don't ever recall having a post deleted or being prohibited from expressing my opinion here. Sometimes people will share your opinion and sometimes they won't and they walk away and leave you to your madness. That's life. We don't always agree, but you can agree to disagree with someone that has presented a good case. The cheeky jabs at one another are just from people that have been dealing with each other for a long time.

I've found this forum to be a club of sorts.. like any other sort of connoisseur based club (cigars, wine/ whiskey, Motorcycle, shooting etc). Everyone's opinion is welcome. It's not the content of your opinion as much as the presentation. If you think Floyd's the best because he's made the most money, sure people will disagree with you. If your claims are baseless but you are obnoxious about it, expect to be called out. If you think Triple G is the best fighter ever, because the punches don't count if they don't drop him... Also expect to be called out as some might think this is a ludicrous claim. In this respect, this forum might be the same in many other places, but i think the difference is many of the public facebook and other social media feeds are more diluted with the casual baseless fanboy opinions, so one more for the pile makes it more interesting. Here, I think many people still come here because they're are tired of weeding through the posts by the drunk party girl that thinks a fighter should win because hes cuter... and posts from another person that thinks Broner will still be a champion because hes gangsta.... or any other kind of unrelated, irrationally biased posts, just to feel like they are talking boxing with someone else that knows boxing.

Having a valued member taken from us too soon is a lot worse than losing a disgruntled member to another forum, in my opinion...

I’ve never seen censorship. In fact I would prefer to see a bit. There is no place for bigotry in an advanced society but it seems advanced society is largely a myth.

I’d say here the issues would be

1)people become caracatures of themselves over time. So you know what people will say before they speak regardless of the evidence. But that’s natural from getting to know people. Perhaps they don’t even see their own biases. I’m probably as guilty as the next guy

2)too much focus on UK fighters rather than the world. But again, natural. People care about what’s familiar

3)too accepting of status quo. Just because things are a certain way doesn’t mean that’s the right way. Not that every fight should be a super fight. But there are always right fights to make and wrong. Danny Garcia is a perfect example of a guy that consistently makes the wrong fights. And those that look to fight Danny Garcia. Danny should be as irrelevant as Amir Khan at this point. But this too could be simply a different mentality. In USA fans have a higher expectation of fighters than here, probably born of a long history of harder expectations. Maybe what’s right for the fighter should be what’s right for the fans. It’s just not what I grew up with. Maybe I need to evolve to accept soft seat joy with the herd.

Saddoboxing is the best boxing forum.

The mods and regulars here are overall better people than the trolls on sites like ESB.

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I’ve never seen censorship. In fact I would prefer to see a bit. There is no place for bigotry in an advanced society but it seems advanced society is largely a myth.

I’d say here the issues would be

1)people become caracatures of themselves over time. So you know what people will say before they speak regardless of the evidence. But that’s natural from getting to know people. Perhaps they don’t even see their own biases. I’m probably as guilty as the next guy

2)too much focus on UK fighters rather than the world. But again, natural. People care about what’s familiar

3)too accepting of status quo. Just because things are a certain way doesn’t mean that’s the right way. Not that every fight should be a super fight. But there are always right fights to make and wrong. Danny Garcia is a perfect example of a guy that consistently makes the wrong fights. And those that look to fight Danny Garcia. Danny should be as irrelevant as Amir Khan at this point. But this too could be simply a different mentality. In USA fans have a higher expectation of fighters than here, probably born of a long history of harder expectations. Maybe what’s right for the fighter should be what’s right for the fans. It’s just not what I grew up with. Maybe I need to evolve to accept soft seat joy with the herd.

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Through the years things change a good fighter is a good fighter regardless of there origin what you expect and what you get are two different
things.
The modern era of boxing guys get a title very early in there carers also carers are a lot shorter not many champions go past 30 plus fights theses days ! the Eastern block has opened up and produced some fine fighters.
The USA no longer dominates the sport a sign of the times a big change in the sport a breath of fresh air a new World order maybe.

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I’ve never seen censorship. In fact I would prefer to see a bit. There is no place for bigotry in an advanced society but it seems advanced society is largely a myth.

I’d say here the issues would be

1)people become caracatures of themselves over time. So you know what people will say before they speak regardless of the evidence. But that’s natural from getting to know people. Perhaps they don’t even see their own biases. I’m probably as guilty as the next guy

2)too much focus on UK fighters rather than the world. But again, natural. People care about what’s familiar

3)too accepting of status quo. Just because things are a certain way doesn’t mean that’s the right way. Not that every fight should be a super fight. But there are always right fights to make and wrong. Danny Garcia is a perfect example of a guy that consistently makes the wrong fights. And those that look to fight Danny Garcia. Danny should be as irrelevant as Amir Khan at this point. But this too could be simply a different mentality. In USA fans have a higher expectation of fighters than here, probably born of a long history of harder expectations. Maybe what’s right for the fighter should be what’s right for the fans. It’s just not what I grew up with. Maybe I need to evolve to accept soft seat joy with the herd.

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1) Never a truer word spoke..oy vey ;D



2) It's a forum started by a Brit and originally populated by Brits. The most prolific posters are Brits. There are a lot of televised fights for British fight fans to watch, which many do religiously and post about in the RBR's here. British boxers are a big part of world boxing, always have been since day one, but now more then ever. Most British Boxing fans will watch fighters and fights form anywhere. The next most prolific posters and greatest in numbers here are Americans and that is bloody great. It is one of the few places online where you lot are not the dominant voice, but this place would not be the same without you, many who have been here since day one.

3) Don't really understand what you mean here? Yes you have a bigger pool to wade through but conversely if you make it in the USA then you have a huge potential home audience. Here in Europe you can dominate and Americans don't even know who you are.

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I’ve never seen censorship. In fact I would prefer to see a bit. There is no place for bigotry in an advanced society but it seems advanced society is largely a myth.

I’d say here the issues would be

1)people become caracatures of themselves over time. So you know what people will say before they speak regardless of the evidence. But that’s natural from getting to know people. Perhaps they don’t even see their own biases. I’m probably as guilty as the next guy

2)too much focus on UK fighters rather than the world. But again, natural. People care about what’s familiar

3)too accepting of status quo. Just because things are a certain way doesn’t mean that’s the right way. Not that every fight should be a super fight. But there are always right fights to make and wrong. Danny Garcia is a perfect example of a guy that consistently makes the wrong fights. And those that look to fight Danny Garcia. Danny should be as irrelevant as Amir Khan at this point. But this too could be simply a different mentality. In USA fans have a higher expectation of fighters than here, probably born of a long history of harder expectations. Maybe what’s right for the fighter should be what’s right for the fans. It’s just not what I grew up with. Maybe I need to evolve to accept soft seat joy with the herd.

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1) Never a truer word spoke..oy vey ;D



2) It's a forum started by a Brit and originally populated by Brits. The most prolific posters are Brits. There are a lot of televised fights for British fight fans to watch, which many do religiously and post about in the RBR's here. British boxers are a big part of world boxing, always have been since day one, but now more then ever. Most British Boxing fans will watch fighters and fights form anywhere. The next most prolific posters and greatest in numbers here are Americans and that is bloody great. It is one of the few places online where you lot are not the dominant voice, but this place would not be the same without you, many who have been here since day one.

3) Don't really understand what you mean here? Yes you have a bigger pool to wade through but conversely if you make it in the USA then you have a huge potential home audience. Here in Europe you can dominate and Americans don't even know who you are.

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For 3 I just mean I’d like to see more UK guys put in harder. Having more top fighters there should be more top expectations. Like Frampton saying he would never fight Rigondeaux, I liked him but that will be hard for me to ever let go. It seems many are like “I get it”. When people raise their voices things get done. Just look at Loma/Rigo, people got pissed and now it’s happening.

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I’ve never seen censorship. In fact I would prefer to see a bit. There is no place for bigotry in an advanced society but it seems advanced society is largely a myth.

I’d say here the issues would be

1)people become caracatures of themselves over time. So you know what people will say before they speak regardless of the evidence. But that’s natural from getting to know people. Perhaps they don’t even see their own biases. I’m probably as guilty as the next guy

2)too much focus on UK fighters rather than the world. But again, natural. People care about what’s familiar

3)too accepting of status quo. Just because things are a certain way doesn’t mean that’s the right way. Not that every fight should be a super fight. But there are always right fights to make and wrong. Danny Garcia is a perfect example of a guy that consistently makes the wrong fights. And those that look to fight Danny Garcia. Danny should be as irrelevant as Amir Khan at this point. But this too could be simply a different mentality. In USA fans have a higher expectation of fighters than here, probably born of a long history of harder expectations. Maybe what’s right for the fighter should be what’s right for the fans. It’s just not what I grew up with. Maybe I need to evolve to accept soft seat joy with the herd.

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1) Never a truer word spoke..oy vey ;D



2) It's a forum started by a Brit and originally populated by Brits. The most prolific posters are Brits. There are a lot of televised fights for British fight fans to watch, which many do religiously and post about in the RBR's here. British boxers are a big part of world boxing, always have been since day one, but now more then ever. Most British Boxing fans will watch fighters and fights form anywhere. The next most prolific posters and greatest in numbers here are Americans and that is bloody great. It is one of the few places online where you lot are not the dominant voice, but this place would not be the same without you, many who have been here since day one.

3) Don't really understand what you mean here? Yes you have a bigger pool to wade through but conversely if you make it in the USA then you have a huge potential home audience. Here in Europe you can dominate and Americans don't even know who you are.

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For 3 I just mean I’d like to see more UK guys put in harder. Having more top fighters there should be more top expectations. Like Frampton saying he would never fight Rigondeaux, I liked him but that will be hard for me to ever let go. It seems many are like “I get it”. When people raise their voices things get done. Just look at Loma/Rigo, people got pissed and now it’s happening.

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Very fair point. Froch was the same with Ward. Never wanted to rematch him because he knew he couldn't beat him.
The reason they get away with it, is because they can earn big bucks with fights against lesser guys.
The reason for that is that the Brit paying public fall for the hype and will blindly back their man to the hilt.
They throw their money at ppv fights that aren't ppv worthy.
Is it right? Probably not, but that's the way it is and it doesn't look like changing any time soon.
As for point #2, like was pointed out the reason the forum is "Brit stacked", is simply because the Brits post more regularly.
Anyway, back to the OP. @Red Leather Mafia, you've had lots of constructive replies and people asking you questions because they have been polite enough to consider your point of view. You haven't replied once. Either:
A. Your out of signal area.
B. You are considering (very slowly) your response.
C.you didn't get the response you wanted or expected . Or
D. You were just Trolling.
Answers on a postcard please.

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I’ve never seen censorship. In fact I would prefer to see a bit. There is no place for bigotry in an advanced society but it seems advanced society is largely a myth.

I’d say here the issues would be

1)people become caracatures of themselves over time. So you know what people will say before they speak regardless of the evidence. But that’s natural from getting to know people. Perhaps they don’t even see their own biases. I’m probably as guilty as the next guy

2)too much focus on UK fighters rather than the world. But again, natural. People care about what’s familiar

3)too accepting of status quo. Just because things are a certain way doesn’t mean that’s the right way. Not that every fight should be a super fight. But there are always right fights to make and wrong. Danny Garcia is a perfect example of a guy that consistently makes the wrong fights. And those that look to fight Danny Garcia. Danny should be as irrelevant as Amir Khan at this point. But this too could be simply a different mentality. In USA fans have a higher expectation of fighters than here, probably born of a long history of harder expectations. Maybe what’s right for the fighter should be what’s right for the fans. It’s just not what I grew up with. Maybe I need to evolve to accept soft seat joy with the herd.

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1) Never a truer word spoke..oy vey ;D



2) It's a forum started by a Brit and originally populated by Brits. The most prolific posters are Brits. There are a lot of televised fights for British fight fans to watch, which many do religiously and post about in the RBR's here. British boxers are a big part of world boxing, always have been since day one, but now more then ever. Most British Boxing fans will watch fighters and fights form anywhere. The next most prolific posters and greatest in numbers here are Americans and that is bloody great. It is one of the few places online where you lot are not the dominant voice, but this place would not be the same without you, many who have been here since day one.

3) Don't really understand what you mean here? Yes you have a bigger pool to wade through but conversely if you make it in the USA then you have a huge potential home audience. Here in Europe you can dominate and Americans don't even know who you are.

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For 3 I just mean I’d like to see more UK guys put in harder. Having more top fighters there should be more top expectations. Like Frampton saying he would never fight Rigondeaux, I liked him but that will be hard for me to ever let go. It seems many are like “I get it”. When people raise their voices things get done. Just look at Loma/Rigo, people got pissed and now it’s happening.

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Very fair point. Froch was the same with Ward. Never wanted to rematch him because he knew he couldn't beat him.
The reason they get away with it, is because they can earn big bucks with fights against lesser guys.
The reason for that is that the Brit paying public fall for the hype and will blindly back their man to the hilt.
They throw their money at ppv fights that aren't ppv worthy.
Is it right? Probably not, but that's the way it is and it doesn't look like changing any time soon.
As for point #2, like was pointed out the reason the forum is "Brit stacked", is simply because the Brits post more regularly.
Anyway, back to the OP. @Red Leather Mafia, you've had lots of constructive replies and people asking you questions because they have been polite enough to consider your point of view. You haven't replied once. Either:
A. Your out of signal area.
B. You are considering (very slowly) your response.
C.you didn't get the response you wanted or expected . Or
D. You were just Trolling.
Answers on a postcard please.

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Perhaps it is also the great domestic scene gets people used to domestic matchups. Often people are excited about fights I think are useless. Like Brook/Khan. People kept talking about that when there were far more important fights. If they wanted to make it now I would be fine with it. But when Brook was on top there was no reason except money to consider Khan because Khan wasn’t on top. Hard for me to understand guys looking down.

I agree with the brits being excited about matchups against each other. I get it but I don’t really like it. Like you said, brook vs khan for the past couple of years wasn’t that interesting of a fight, but the brits really want to see it. Where I’m from, there are no domestic fights to get excited about. I just want the best fights.

I am grateful for all of the brits here though. It has really expanded my knowledge and interest in British fighters.

Good thread MrSwanson, its brought a lot of prominent posters out.

Reminds me of what I thought about the Secondsout forum , which to me was so rich in depth of opinion and knowledge of the history of boxing and its relevance to today. The smacktalkbitching section of secondsout broke off and formed its own website which was a steaming pile of hate.

Is it possible after years of social media that people switch off and move back to forums for a slower paced and more meaningful interactions with the content discussed? I think undisputed touched on that.

I still periodically post on a Quake gaming forum, and that game was released in 1998. Rarely talk about Quake anymore though, its the Internet Aliases that matter more.

I keep saying it but boxing is doing itself no favours, so clearly a site for boxing fans/experts/wannabee experts is going to decline, same as billiards, badminton etc. (darts is doing well). WE are let down by bullshit promoters with bullshit prospects, its almost like the X factor. There is no clear mechanism for young talent to come through, win lose or draw, its all down to getting 'signed' by someone with a TV contract, thereafter bullshit all the way. Don't know what the answer is, it could be low rent high crowd cheap media MMA bollox, I hope not, that would be the complete end.

Sorry to be so negative

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I keep saying it but boxing is doing itself no favours, so clearly a site for boxing fans/experts/wannabee experts is going to decline, same as billiards, badminton etc. (darts is doing well). WE are let down by bullshit promoters with bullshit prospects, its almost like the X factor. There is no clear mechanism for young talent to come through, win lose or draw, its all down to getting 'signed' by someone with a TV contract, thereafter bullshit all the way. Don't know what the answer is, it could be low rent high crowd cheap media MMA bollox, I hope not, that would be the complete end.

Sorry to be so negative

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I think MMA has something very right as far as drawing interest. People today have very short attention spans with how many distractions we have. You turn on an MMA fight and the announcer is screaming about how exciting everything is. Even though MMA is actually far slower than boxing. I don’t want to see boxing come to this, I would find it insulting. But I bet it would go over very well with the casuals “this guy is very excited, this must be exciting”

But in boxing half the time the announcers are insulting the fighters. Saying they’re boring, the fight is boring, their style is boring. What do you expect a casual to think, it’s boring.(for the record I don’t hear this from the Sky crew)

Boxing has never been more popular in the UK than it is now. Any British bod that says "boxing is dying" is not really a boxing fan they're a groupy (follow a few famous fighters) or live in a bubble (everything and everyone is crap these days..Zzzz)

The forum has declined in activity and interesting threads. However, it is everything I need it to be these days as I have slowed down too at the age of 30 (on Friday I will be anyway). Still love this place. Always will. George Foreman wants to fight Steven Seagal, how bout that!? Lol

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The forum has declined in activity and interesting threads. However, it is everything I need it to be these days as I have slowed down too at the age of 30 (on Friday I will be anyway). Still love this place. Always will. George Foreman wants to fight Steven Seagal, how bout that!? Lol

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Many happy returns you bastard

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Originally Posted by Hulk

The forum has declined in activity and interesting threads. However, it is everything I need it to be these days as I have slowed down too at the age of 30 (on Friday I will be anyway). Still love this place. Always will. George Foreman wants to fight Steven Seagal, how bout that!? Lol

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Happy Birthday 30 you old git.;D

Thank you gentlemen. I'll be taking Monday off to make it a 3 day weekend.