This place has run its course......

[nuggetdotcom]

I keep saying it but boxing is doing itself no favours, so clearly a site for boxing fans/experts/wannabee experts is going to decline, same as billiards, badminton etc. (darts is doing well). WE are let down by bullshit promoters with bullshit prospects, its almost like the X factor. There is no clear mechanism for young talent to come through, win lose or draw, its all down to getting 'signed' by someone with a TV contract, thereafter bullshit all the way. Don't know what the answer is, it could be low rent high crowd cheap media MMA bollox, I hope not, that would be the complete end.

Sorry to be so negative

[Ron Swanson]

I keep saying it but boxing is doing itself no favours, so clearly a site for boxing fans/experts/wannabee experts is going to decline, same as billiards, badminton etc. (darts is doing well). WE are let down by bullshit promoters with bullshit prospects, its almost like the X factor. There is no clear mechanism for young talent to come through, win lose or draw, its all down to getting 'signed' by someone with a TV contract, thereafter bullshit all the way. Don't know what the answer is, it could be low rent high crowd cheap media MMA bollox, I hope not, that would be the complete end.

Sorry to be so negative

I think MMA has something very right as far as drawing interest. People today have very short attention spans with how many distractions we have. You turn on an MMA fight and the announcer is screaming about how exciting everything is. Even though MMA is actually far slower than boxing. I don’t want to see boxing come to this, I would find it insulting. But I bet it would go over very well with the casuals “this guy is very excited, this must be exciting”

But in boxing half the time the announcers are insulting the fighters. Saying they’re boring, the fight is boring, their style is boring. What do you expect a casual to think, it’s boring.(for the record I don’t hear this from the Sky crew)

[Fenster]

Boxing has never been more popular in the UK than it is now. Any British bod that says "boxing is dying" is not really a boxing fan they're a groupy (follow a few famous fighters) or live in a bubble (everything and everyone is crap these days..Zzzz)

[nuggetdotcom]

Boxing has never been more popular in the UK than it is now. Any British bod that says "boxing is dying" is not really a boxing fan they're a groupy (follow a few famous fighters) or live in a bubble (everything and everyone is crap these days..Zzzz)

I do disagree with you, but will not do it publicly, for the good of the sport

[nuggetdotcom]

Boxing has never been more popular in the UK than it is now. Any British bod that says "boxing is dying" is not really a boxing fan they're a groupy (follow a few famous fighters) or live in a bubble (everything and everyone is crap these days..Zzzz)

Don't be so silly, it was far more popular in the 50's 60's and 70's, halls sold out and no such thing as pay TV. Every newspaper had one or two boxing correspondents, there was no alphabet title shit, Wembley or the Albert Hall was rammed for a British title fight, AND it was on BBC/ITV. Would Deontay Wilder now do a European 'bum of the month' tour like Cassius did, and take on all the European national champions? In your dreams. Showbiz with blood, and only the favoured few with management/whats left of the boxing media contacts get on. Nowadays fighters like Tony Sibson or Dave Boy Green wouldn't get a look in, if you don't believe me ASK THEM!

PS forgot to mention that the BBBOC was not then in promoters or managers pockets, and the ranking systems were noticeably fairer.

[Fenster]

Boxing has never been more popular in the UK than it is now. Any British bod that says "boxing is dying" is not really a boxing fan they're a groupy (follow a few famous fighters) or live in a bubble (everything and everyone is crap these days..Zzzz)

Don't be so silly, it was far more popular in the 50's 60's and 70's, halls sold out and no such thing as pay TV. Every newspaper had one or two boxing correspondents, there was no alphabet title shit, Wembley or the Albert Hall was rammed for a British title fight, AND it was on BBC/ITV. Would Deontay Wilder now do a European 'bum of the month' tour like Cassius did, and take on all the European national champions? In your dreams. Showbiz with blood, and only the favoured few with management/whats left of the boxing media contacts get on. Nowadays fighters like Tony Sibson or Dave Boy Green wouldn't get a look in, if you don't believe me ASK THEM!

PS forgot to mention that the BBBOC was not then in promoters or managers pockets, and the ranking systems were noticeably fairer.

Today there are more clubs, gyms, fighters, shows, promoters, money, etc, that is a fact (ask Steve Bunce, he just wrote a book about it). Halls sell out every week, British title fights regularly take place in front of 10,000+ crowds. The 02, MEN, Football stadiums, Cardiff, Wembley, we don't have ENOUGH major indoor venues in this country to deal with the current popularity of boxing. It has it's OWN dedicated TV channel. FIVE different broadcasters show regular live boxing.

As for the board being kosher back then? Micky Duff? Lawless? The Cartel? Yes and the Mafia never used to fix fights in 50s either.

Come on mate, I get everything was better in the good old days (all the boys my age long for the 90s to comeback), but it's us that become jaded bastards pining for when we were young, the actual sport is better than ever.

[nuggetdotcom]

Boxing has never been more popular in the UK than it is now. Any British bod that says "boxing is dying" is not really a boxing fan they're a groupy (follow a few famous fighters) or live in a bubble (everything and everyone is crap these days..Zzzz)

Don't be so silly, it was far more popular in the 50's 60's and 70's, halls sold out and no such thing as pay TV. Every newspaper had one or two boxing correspondents, there was no alphabet title shit, Wembley or the Albert Hall was rammed for a British title fight, AND it was on BBC/ITV. Would Deontay Wilder now do a European 'bum of the month' tour like Cassius did, and take on all the European national champions? In your dreams. Showbiz with blood, and only the favoured few with management/whats left of the boxing media contacts get on. Nowadays fighters like Tony Sibson or Dave Boy Green wouldn't get a look in, if you don't believe me ASK THEM!

PS forgot to mention that the BBBOC was not then in promoters or managers pockets, and the ranking systems were noticeably fairer.

Today there are more clubs, gyms, fighters, shows, promoters, money, etc, that is a fact (ask Steve Bunce, he just wrote a book about it). Halls sell out every week, British title fights regularly take place in front of 10,000+ crowds. The 02, MEN, Football stadiums, Cardiff, Wembley, we don't have ENOUGH major indoor venues in this country to deal with the current popularity of boxing. It has it's OWN dedicated TV channel. FIVE different broadcasters show regular live boxing.

As for the board being kosher back then? Micky Duff? Lawless? The Cartel? Yes and the Mafia never used to fix fights in 50s either.

Come on mate, I get everything was better in the good old days (all the boys my age long for the 90s to comeback), but it's us that become jaded bastards pining for when we were young, the actual sport is better than ever.

Fully accept your comments about Duff and Lawless, not every decade is perfect..... However

This may be worthy of a separate post, I was channel flipping tonite and noticed 'boxing' on Dave. So I tuned in.

I have never watched such a pile of unaldulterated SHITE in my life. Michael 'Venom' Page against a lardy Piella laden Spaniard with an 11-2-1 record (no! that's 11 losses). I think it was at O2 small hall, half full of pissed up wanabee white collar boxers doing selfies. The referee duly stopped the contest as soon as Pedro took a shot from the posing twat in front of him. Boxing it was most definitely not. Still, all the yuppies returned to the wine bars as 'true' boxing fans. THis MMA type crap at £20 a ticket and £10 a pint will kill small hall boxing, where the 'proper' fighters need good purses to maintain their training, unlike MMA fighters who write computer games during the day and survive their lacklustre fights on alcohol and cocaine.

[Silkeyjoe]

Thats very unfair. Yes that fight was a joke and the card was awful but the main event was a pretty refreshing debut. Its promoted by a fighter who doesnt have the stable to really put on good shows but its no worse than plenty of cards in the past. The fact that cards like this is being televised shows how boxing is booming at the moment.

Look at tomorrow night. A solid card in Belfast competing with a decent card in Leeds. Followed up stateside by decent fights in New Jersey and New York.

I dont know what era you think was better than now? Anything past the late 90s was before my time and I never really watched full cards before that, mainly just main event fights, but what Ive gathered from all the boxing books Ive read spamming from the start of the 20th century there have always been plenty of mismatches and hand picking of opponents. Even the four kings era wasnt exactly as if they all fought each other in their primes.