Must win fight for Degale, if he loses again he needs to retire.
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Must win fight for Degale, if he loses again he needs to retire.
http://www.boxingscene.com/james-deg...-truax--124424
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Originally Posted by smashup
Degale took a real beating but judging from his latest picture he has recovered well from the cuts and bruises.
http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...tid=4384&stc=1
De Gale needs to make sure he has recovered from his injuries otherwise he will lose again.
I am glad he is staying with Jim McDonald who is a good trainer.
At the start of last year De Gale was saying he would make millions by beating Jack, Groves and Smith in the year but because of injuries and circumstances his career could be over. How things change so quickly.
I think the rematch will be the same outcome.
I reckon Degale might be finished mentally, the Badou Jack fight might have knocked it all out of him.
DeGale should take a confidence builder first.
His last fight was supposed to be that, if he goes any lower he may as well stop.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpha
True, I was thinking a Paul Smith type.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterHis last fight was supposed to be that, if he goes any lower he may as well stop.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpha
If De gale loses to him he would retire but if he wins then he may think should have gone for the title fight and I do not know if the new champ would wait that long anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlphaTrue, I was thinking a Paul Smith type.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterHis last fight was supposed to be that, if he goes any lower he may as well stop.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpha
I think De Gale should have a closed fight, possibly with Paul Smith to see if he has anything left at the top level. If he does he would carry on if he loses/takes a beating, he should announce his retirement.
DeGale in truth looked shopworn he was terrible he got beat by nothing more than above average club fighter,!:vd: I could not believe how bad James performed lucky it was not Eubank or Groves he was facing that night he would have been KO simple.
DeGale did look shopworn , but we shouldn't take away from Truax's performance, I think the guy deserves a bit of respect. DeGale couldn't really wait , I don't think it's his choice when he re-activates his rematch clause , it's either "do you want it or not?" he had no choice really. Either he's at the level or not and there's only one way to find out .
Also , i don't like tearing into people for the sake of it , but I don't think he gets anything whatsoever from his trainer. It wouldn't hurt him to go with a strict disciplinarian who fucking tells him exactly how it is . Somebody who can stand up to his ego.
He could come back and be a force, but it'll take a lot of humility, hard work and soul searching. without knowing the guy personally, i don't know if he's capable of that.
Jim McDonald is a tough trainer who may actually over work his boxers. I think it is more the wear and tear of his body that is the question.
I don't really want to slag him off because he seems like an OK guy and I loved him as a Boxer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
But as a trainer, I think he's a bit clueless and lost at the top level. I also think that maybe DeGale gets his way a bit too much with him.
If DeGale has any designs on being a top level , he needs a top level trainer. Too easy to say Ingle because of what he's done with BJS, and McCracken probably wouldn't work with his history with Froch although it shouldn't really be a barrier. I dunno, Virgil Hunter maybe?
Thinking about what I just wrote, I reckon McCracken would be a great move.
Hunter would mould Degale to perfection.
He should consider trying something else as he's trainer was not giving him the right advice in this particular fight.
DeGale has never impressed me. He could have arguably lost to Dirrell, Medina and Jack. Although I had him winning the first 2, struggling with Medina was not a good look. 2 fights later and Truax got it done.
Interesting rematch and in a way much more deserved for Truax. Both could very well skyrocket off current path, though it's easier to see DeGale slow burn out and take similar wider loss than it is to see Truax transform into a more polished world beating product. He is what he is and it was enough. Any chance whatsoever Truax comes in over amped up like a lottery winner who gets overwhelmed in spotlight? I don't see it he comes off as very well grounded and down to Earth. Just don't think DeGale turns back the clock at this point.
That is a bit harsh on DeGale because he beat Dirrell and Bute on their on turf and knocked down Jack which not many people do. DeGale has had injuries in his career which have resulted in poor performances at times but he was in the form of his life during those fights.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpha
A bit of rest and recuperation he could well be back in the mix by out boxing Traux. In time for the winner of the competition.
Might have knocked down Jack but Jack beat the hell out of himQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterThat is a bit harsh on DeGale because he beat Dirrell and Bute on their on turf and knocked down Jack which not many people do. DeGale has had injuries in his career which have resulted in poor performances at times but he was in the form of his life during those fights.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpha
A bit of rest and recuperation he could well be back in the mix by out boxing Traux. In time for the winner of the competition.
Nice and caring post.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterThat is a bit harsh on DeGale because he beat Dirrell and Bute on their on turf and knocked down Jack which not many people do. DeGale has had injuries in his career which have resulted in poor performances at times but he was in the form of his life during those fights.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpha
A bit of rest and recuperation he could well be back in the mix by out boxing Traux. In time for the winner of the competition.
Only that particular round.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron SwansonMight have knocked down Jack but Jack beat the hell out of himQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterThat is a bit harsh on DeGale because he beat Dirrell and Bute on their on turf and knocked down Jack which not many people do. DeGale has had injuries in his career which have resulted in poor performances at times but he was in the form of his life during those fights.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpha
A bit of rest and recuperation he could well be back in the mix by out boxing Traux. In time for the winner of the competition.
Just being fair. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by impNice and caring post.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterThat is a bit harsh on DeGale because he beat Dirrell and Bute on their on turf and knocked down Jack which not many people do. DeGale has had injuries in his career which have resulted in poor performances at times but he was in the form of his life during those fights.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpha
A bit of rest and recuperation he could well be back in the mix by out boxing Traux. In time for the winner of the competition.
I was the one being fair.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterJust being fair. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by impNice and caring post.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterThat is a bit harsh on DeGale because he beat Dirrell and Bute on their on turf and knocked down Jack which not many people do. DeGale has had injuries in his career which have resulted in poor performances at times but he was in the form of his life during those fights.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpha
A bit of rest and recuperation he could well be back in the mix by out boxing Traux. In time for the winner of the competition.