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Last male northern white rhino dies
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn...ntl/index.html
(CNN) The world's last male northern white rhino has died leaving only two females left to save the subspecies from extinction.
The 45-year-old rhino named Sudan had been in poor health in recent days and was being treated for age-related issues and multiple infections.
A veterinary team made the decision to euthanize Sudan after his condition deteriorated significantly, the conservation group WildAid announced Tuesday.
I hate to see these beautiful animals leaving us. They actually had to surround the dying creature with armed guards to stop poachers.......sad
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Poaching is awful and all poachers should be hanged! Doesn't matter what animal it is, poachers have no respect.
Rhinos are beautiful and powerful animals, very sad to see them struggle to survive. The Northern White Rhino is a subspecies of White Rhino and the Southern White Rhino is actually doing quite well which is nice. The Black Rhino also are listed as critically endangered.
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El Kabong
Poaching is awful and all poachers should be hanged! Doesn't matter what animal it is, poachers have no respect.
Rhinos are beautiful and powerful animals, very sad to see them struggle to survive. The Northern White Rhino is a subspecies of White Rhino and the Southern White Rhino is actually doing quite well which is nice. The Black Rhino also are listed as critically endangered.
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That's trophy hunting which is NOT poaching. I don't much care for trophy hunting either, but it's legal AND it actually helps protect the species. People pay big money to trophy hunt, that money goes into the community and they protect what brings in the money.
But keep on digging Beanz, you constantly want to fight and argue with me try again
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El Kabong
That's trophy hunting which is NOT poaching. I don't much care for trophy hunting either, but it's legal AND it actually helps protect the species. People pay big money to trophy hunt, that money goes into the community and they protect what brings in the money.
But keep on digging Beanz, you constantly want to fight and argue with me try again
How could my buddy beanz piss in this thread. It's dedicated to one of our earth creatures. It's not trophy hunting which is the tragedy (I'm against trophy hunting) but the Chinese who pay a million bucks for rhino horn and testicle thinking it makes you live an extra day. Anyway, this isn't an argument thread, it's just sad to see a species go no matter what, why can't it ever be mosquitoes
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El Kabong
That's trophy hunting which is NOT poaching. I don't much care for trophy hunting either, but it's legal AND it actually helps protect the species. People pay big money to trophy hunt, that money goes into the community and they protect what brings in the money.
But keep on digging Beanz, you constantly want to fight and argue with me try again
How could my buddy beanz piss in this thread. It's dedicated to one of our earth creatures. It's not trophy hunting which is the tragedy (I'm against trophy hunting) but the Chinese who pay a million bucks for rhino horn and testicle thinking it makes you live an extra day. Anyway, this isn't an argument thread, it's just sad to see a species go no matter what, why can't it ever be
mosquitoes
Or black widow spiders.
I guess Beanz just wants to stir shit up in EVERY single thread....what would those new posters think about that? How would they feel? :shakehead:
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Wow. Two photographs of Trumps Trophy hunting and that is seen as stirring up shit? It's hardly pissing in a thread. Poaching when it's the people who live there killing the animals and Trophy hunting when rich foreigners get permission.
I will ask permission before posting next time.
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Wow. Two photographs of Trumps Trophy hunting and that is seen as stirring up shit? It's hardly pissing in a thread. Poaching when it's the people who live there killing the animals and Trophy hunting when rich foreigners get permission.
I will ask permission before posting next time.
Holy shit dude u are off today, these are not #hardhwordtobeanz just an observation
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Beanz
Wow. Two photographs of Trumps Trophy hunting and that is seen as stirring up shit? It's hardly pissing in a thread. Poaching when it's the people who live there killing the animals and Trophy hunting when rich foreigners get permission.
I will ask permission before posting next time.
No it's not just that post that constitutes your "stirring shit up" it's just a part of it. You want to attack me anytime I post which is fine but don't be a little bitch and act like you aren't doing exactly that.
Poach - illegally hunt or catch (game or fish) on land that is not one's own, or in contravention of official protection. To take or acquire in an unfair or clandestine way.
It is painfully obvious that you do not understand what poaching is. Similarly you have no clue about trophy hunting.
You just can't leave well enough alone, you just have to try to ham handedly get your shots in....is it working yet? Feeling it working? This doing anything for you?
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El Kabong
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Beanz
Wow. Two photographs of Trumps Trophy hunting and that is seen as stirring up shit? It's hardly pissing in a thread. Poaching when it's the people who live there killing the animals and Trophy hunting when rich foreigners get permission.
I will ask permission before posting next time.
No it's not just that post that constitutes your "stirring shit up" it's just a part of it. You want to attack me anytime I post which is fine but don't be a little bitch and act like you aren't doing exactly that.
Poach - illegally hunt or catch (game or fish) on land that is not one's own, or in contravention of official protection. To take or acquire in an unfair or clandestine way.
It is painfully obvious that you do not understand what poaching is. Similarly you have no clue about trophy hunting.
You just can't leave well enough alone, you just have to try to ham handedly get your shots in....is it working yet? Feeling it working? This doing anything for you?
I am sorry but It's not attacking you though is it ? Are you one of Trump's sons? Do you go Trophy hunting after what you call "beautiful powerful creatures" ?
Why would I not know what poaching is?That is a very weird thing to assume,but something you seem to be almost compelled to do. Trump has changed the law and the people he has put in charge will be similar vain shallow materialists who see more value in animal parts than them being alive. Trumps sons are not eating their trophies are they?
I am still astonished that you would think anyone here would need an American to explain what poaching is ;D
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Beanz
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El Kabong
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Beanz
Wow. Two photographs of Trumps Trophy hunting and that is seen as stirring up shit? It's hardly pissing in a thread. Poaching when it's the people who live there killing the animals and Trophy hunting when rich foreigners get permission.
I will ask permission before posting next time.
No it's not just that post that constitutes your "stirring shit up" it's just a part of it. You want to attack me anytime I post which is fine but don't be a little bitch and act like you aren't doing exactly that.
Poach - illegally hunt or catch (game or fish) on land that is not one's own, or in contravention of official protection. To take or acquire in an unfair or clandestine way.
It is painfully obvious that you do not understand what poaching is. Similarly you have no clue about trophy hunting.
You just can't leave well enough alone, you just have to try to ham handedly get your shots in....is it working yet? Feeling it working? This doing anything for you?
I am sorry but It's not attacking you though is it ? Are you one of Trump's sons? Do you go Trophy hunting after what you call
"beautiful powerful creatures" ?
Why would I not know what poaching is?That is a very weird thing to assume,but something you seem to be almost compelled to do
. Trump has changed the law and the people he has put in charge will be similar vain shallow materialists who see more value in animal parts than them being alive. Trumps sons are not eating their trophies are they?
I am still astonished that you would think anyone here would need an American to explain what poaching is ;D
I am still amazed u need to politicize everything today. It seems you have a wire crossed or something. You don't seem to give a shit about the beautiful friendly white rhino, and use this poor creatures death for your personal agenda. Why are you so cold towards the white rhino, he was the last male white rhino, don't you get it, trump didn't shoot him he was euthanized. If a government decides to sell permits to kill an animal To raise funds for protected land or buy weapons to maintain control not much I can do. But I will mourn this particular white rhino who trump did nothing to. Beanz I will not let you ruin my mourning period, im sitting shiva for the last male white rhino, damn it
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El Kabong
That's trophy hunting which is NOT poaching. I don't much care for trophy hunting either, but it's legal AND it actually helps protect the species. People pay big money to trophy hunt, that money goes into the community and they protect what brings in the money.
But keep on digging Beanz, you constantly want to fight and argue with me try again
Trophy hunting is wrong and that should not be encouraged too.
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Master
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El Kabong
That's trophy hunting which is NOT poaching. I don't much care for trophy hunting either, but it's legal AND it actually helps protect the species. People pay big money to trophy hunt, that money goes into the community and they protect what brings in the money.
But keep on digging Beanz, you constantly want to fight and argue with me try again
Trophy hunting is wrong and that should not be encouraged too.
Will u stop don't continue this master speak on the poor fellow white rhino I'm getting very close to deleting my account. Start a trophy hunting thread if U must. #stopthewhiterhinodisrespect
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Master
Trophy hunting is wrong and that should not be encouraged too.
Well are you going to lay out your points or just make a statement?
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El Kabong
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Master
Trophy hunting is wrong and that should not be encouraged too.
Well are you going to lay out your points or just make a statement?
Numbered bullet ....hang on...not bullet
Numbered points in capitals
Bold might help too
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El Kabong
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Master
Trophy hunting is wrong and that should not be encouraged too.
Well are you going to lay out your points or just make a statement?
Numbered bullet ....hang on...not bullet
Numbered points in capitals
Bold might help too
Great post, you're a credit to your race
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It brings Kenya into the news again :(
Although on a positive note, the two main political parties (Uhuru(Kikuyu Tribe) / Odinga (Luo tribe) have made up in order to unite the country at least on a superficial level.
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It brings Kenya into the news again :(
Although on a positive note, the two main political parties (Uhuru(Kikuyu Tribe) / Odinga (Luo tribe) have made up in order to unite the country at least on a superficial level.
Now you have been there and seen how does the population Kenya feel about the current state of the country. I really know nothing of Kenya I subscribe to an international magazine and they do have an African section but I don't recall much news out of Kenya. I don't expect you to give a dissertation but in general, what's the dilly with Kenya
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I have never eaten one .
Would certainly be interesting, I'd venture to guess it would have a stronger taste to it but I haven't had it either. I HAVE had Bobcat which was good, not certain that tastiness would scale up to Leopard or Jaguar nor would I want to find out. You don't tend to eat much predator meat.
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El Kabong
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Master
Trophy hunting is wrong and that should not be encouraged too.
Well are you going to lay out your points or just make a statement?
Thought it would be obvious and did not really need explaining. These agencies should not accept money because it is unethical, it is trying to stop killing and yet are taking money from it. Allowing rich morons to kill these animals sends out a bad message to everyone. It is the equivalent of a domestic violence charity accepting money from a serial rapist.
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Master
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El Kabong
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Master
Trophy hunting is wrong and that should not be encouraged too.
Well are you going to lay out your points or just make a statement?
Thought it would be obvious and did not really need explaining. These agencies should not accept money because it is unethical, it is trying to stop killing and yet are taking money from it. Allowing rich morons to kill these animals sends out a bad message to everyone. It is the equivalent of a domestic violence charity accepting money from a serial rapist.
Well that explanation might work if the serial rapist was also eating the livestock and crops of the women he beat.
Trophy hunting, although I personally don't participate in it, CAN supply money to communities in need of food, water, shelter, clothing AND it can also rid a community of a bad predator which threatens livestock and the safety of those around.
Male Lions once kicked out of a pride will go rouge and those are the most dangerous as they'll hunt easier targets than zebra or gazelle, easier targets like cattle or goats or humans.
Look I don't DO that kind of hunting, but that isn't poaching. Poaching is something far worse and poachers do not take into account "Is this going to hurt the pride, is this going to hurt the balance of the ecosystem in this area". Kill an Alpha lion which is the leader of the pack and as soon as a new Alpha lion comes in 100% of the cubs are killed.....HUNTERS think about that shit, POACHERS don't give a fuck about it, gigantic difference. Also HUNTERS take notice of endangered species lists and threatened species.....poacher just care about $$$$ and there's folks in Asia wanting fucking lion gallbladder or whatever the fuck and they'll pay for it and that's all that crosses the poachers' mind.
My Uncle put away several poachers in his days as a game warden. Good riddance to those scumbags.
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"The beauty and genius of a work of art may be reconceived, though its first material expression be destroyed; a vanished harmony may yet again inspire the composer; but when the last individual of a race of living beings breathes no more, another heaven and another earth must pass before such a one can be again." - William Beebe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1cWBbSatQQ
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Freedom
The beauty and genius of a work of art may be reconceived, though its first material expression be destroyed; a vanished harmony may yet again inspire the composer; but when the last individual of a race of living beings breathes no more, another heaven and another earth must pass before such a one can be again. - William Beebe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1cWBbSatQQ
Thank you, I appreciate it
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsgP5DouB2M
Powerful animal, very light on it's feet for as heavy as it is. Nature is beautiful, wild, stronger and more vicious than you can imagine.
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Trophy hunters disgust me too, however, after watching a documentary (BBC) it was evident the game keepers were far, far more knowledgeable of the welfare of animals and the issue was far deeper than just they are nasty unscrupulous money grabbing bastards. It is typically very arrogant of us in the west to think we know best about things we, in reality, are utterly ignorant of. One game keeper gave the impression that the rich foreigners (all happened to be American) were sickos too.
As for poaching, after watching another documentary on that, it's clearly not the fault of local poachers living in mud huts even though they do the most senseless wastful slaughtering. They're just common dumb animals to them that they've experienced all their lives, these people beat their wives on camera with coshes and sticks, they're hardly going to be sentimental about one less elephant. Again, the filthy rich who pathetically believe the parts of these animals have special powers are to blame. Kill an elephant for a bowl of super soup. Utter madness.
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It is very sad, of course it is. Africa is experiencing horrendous population expansionism and unfortunately many more species will fall by the way side. It is selfish to put yourself above nature. Learn to live in harmony and balance and we can progress. Mankind has little interest in doing that. This is where I salute the attitudes of people like David Attenborough and the need for a more respectful approach to the balance between man and nature.
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Dave Allen fought a few weeks ago 😂
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Dave Allen fought a few weeks ago 😂
Funny how the male white rhino became extinct just after he changed his name to the Doncaster De La Hoya
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I know it legal in some places, but I have to say I don't agree with trophy hunting. I don't understand how someone gets a kick from shooting s leopard from far away with a high powered rifle. Maybe that's just me. I disagree with it, but accept that others don't.
In terms of poaching, we all seem to agree that it's bad. But I lived in Tanzania and I understood why a guy whose family will starve to death unless he provides for them might turn to poaching. I get that, and I have seen people do it. I defy anybody on here who says they would refuse to kill a giraffe, and who would let their family die instead.
It seems the main difference is the trophy hunter has money, and the poacher offer does not. So, that's ok then :confused:.
in terms of motivation a) that's a really beautiful animal, and I respect it's power and grace. I have money, so I'd like to kill it and keep bits of it to show off to my friends or b) That's just an animal, and I live near lots of them. My family will die unless I harvest those animals. It's them or us. I have no money but foreigners think they are magic
In my view, the problem is the consumer. Some uneducated savage who thinks eating tiger bones will help them get a hardon is the problem .... especially now they have money.
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I guess poachers in the United States and poachers in other areas have different motivations. Poachers here are after antlers (for mounts), skins/furs (for various things), and very seldom they are after meat. Poachers in Africa seem to be after ivory, skins/furs, and certain organs used as homeopathic remedies.
If I was to hunt in Africa (which I'm quite certain I'll never do) then I'd probably be after animals very similar to white tailed deer some sort of antelope or gazelle. I'd only shoot a predator if it were a problem in the area.
My view on hunting is you take and make use of everything you can from what you harvest otherwise you're doing it wrong. Also you need to know the population for that animal in the area you're hunting because if you hunt a place until there are no more of that animal to hunt then well you've got no more hunting left to do.
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The Marsupial Wolf was poisoned, shot, snared, hunted with dogs, trapped, and otherwise exterminated through the early 1900s.
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/no.../Thylacine.jpg
The Labrador Duck's eggs were taken, and it was subject to depredations by the feather trade in its breeding area as well.
http://faculty.montgomerycollege.edu...rador_Duck.jpg
The story of the Eskimo Curlew is a tale of the slaughter of the innocents. It is a sad fact that the countless millions of this fine bird and the Passenger Pigeon, which once swept across our land on migrations, are gone forever, sacrificed to the insatiable greed of man.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/2qoSGU1Rk0g/hqdefault.jpg
Bubal Hartebeest
Great Auk
Sea Mink
Quagga
Pyrenean Ibex
West African Black Rhinoceros
Japanese Wolf
Newfoundland White Wolf
Caspian Tiger
Javan Tiger
Passenger Pigeon
Carolina Parakeet
Major extinction events are nothing new for the planet, but species are now dying out at an alarming rate thanks to humans. We are presently losing dozens of species every day, according to the Center for Biological Diversity. Nearly 20,000 species of plants and animals are at a high risk of extinction.
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The Red Wolf has been reintroduced to several counties in my state....only issue there is the encroachment of coyotes in my state and in those counties where the red wolf is being reintroduced they've stopped allowing the taking of coyotes as the two species look extremely similar. Coyotes cause a lot of troubles by harming turkey and white tail deer populations. Also coyotes and red wolves will probably create hybrids after a while.
https://www.fws.gov/redwolf/wolvesandcoyotes.html
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Europe faces 'biodiversity oblivion' after collapse in French birds, experts warn
https://www.theguardian.com/environm...rd-populations
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That really is a shame. Sadly domesticated cats are pretty fucking amazing killing machines as a lot of the world has found out especially Australia and New Zealand where but of course they have fat, slow, flightless bird which apparently taste great to cats :11fb8:
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El Kabong
Coyotes cause a lot of troubles by harming turkey and white tail deer populations.
People nearly completely wiped out all Wild Turkey populations, they had to be re-introduced into most areas where they had been extirpated.
Humans killed off other Galliformes like the endangered Sage Grouse and all the Tympanuchus Cupido sub-species, such as the extinct "Heath Hen". Heath Hens were extremely common in their habitat in the eastern USA during Colonial times, but they were heavily hunted by settlers for food.
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El Kabong
Coyotes cause a lot of troubles by harming turkey and white tail deer populations.
People nearly completely wiped out all Wild Turkey populations, they had to be re-introduced into most areas where they had been extirpated.
Humans killed off other Galliformes like the endangered Sage Grouse and all the
Tympanuchus Cupido sub-species, such as the extinct "Heath Hen". Heath Hens were extremely common in their habitat in the eastern USA during Colonial times, but they were heavily hunted by settlers for food.
My Uncle helped reintroduce turkey in a few areas as well.
Quail are making a come back in a few areas due in great part to hunters and landowners making sure they have the habitat needed to thrive.
Ruffed grouse are having a rebound in a couple areas again due to hunters wanting to be able to hunt those birds.
As much as humans interfere in nature, nature sometimes needs a little interference once the odds are so off. Hopefully humanity learns from what happened at Yellowstone with the wolves. You have to have SOME predators or the populations get out of control which then hurts the plants and food supply and that hurts cover and next thing you know nobody is enjoying themselves predator or prey or plantlife.
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Sudan (the rhino) has been described as being a gentle giant.
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Freedom
That really is a shame. Sadly domesticated cats are pretty fucking amazing killing machines as a lot of the world has found out especially Australia and New Zealand where but of course they have fat, slow, flightless bird which apparently taste great to cats :11fb8:
Again, humans are really to blame.
People brought cats on Islands and into other areas where there had never been cats, the native species had evolved with no natural defense nor instinctive fear of cats.
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Freedom
Again, humans are really to blame.
People brought cats on Islands and into other areas where there had never been cats, the native species had evolved with no natural defense nor instinctive fear of of cats.
Yyyyyyyeah but when you think about the whole "survival of the fittest" any animal that's going around that has "no natural defense" AND "no instinctive fear" probably ain't really the best equipped for survival.
Yes humans, but God damn....Kiwis are fucking helpless. I don't want them extinct but God helps those who help themselves.
