Last male northern white rhino dies

[El Kabong]

Europe faces 'biodiversity oblivion' after collapse in French birds, experts warn

https://www.theguardian.com/environm...rd-populations

That really is a shame. Sadly domesticated cats are pretty fucking amazing killing machines as a lot of the world has found out especially Australia and New Zealand where but of course they have fat, slow, flightless bird which apparently taste great to cats

[Freedom]

Europe faces 'biodiversity oblivion' after collapse in French birds, experts warn

https://www.theguardian.com/environm...rd-populations

That really is a shame. Sadly domesticated cats are pretty fucking amazing killing machines as a lot of the world has found out especially Australia and New Zealand where but of course they have fat, slow, flightless bird which apparently taste great to cats

Again, humans are really to blame.

People brought cats on Islands and into other areas where there had never been cats, the native species had evolved with no natural defense nor instinctive fear of cats.

[El Kabong]

Again, humans are really to blame.

People brought cats on Islands and into other areas where there had never been cats, the native species had evolved with no natural defense nor instinctive fear of of cats.

Yyyyyyyeah but when you think about the whole "survival of the fittest" any animal that's going around that has "no natural defense" AND "no instinctive fear" probably ain't really the best equipped for survival.


Yes humans, but God damn....Kiwis are fucking helpless. I don't want them extinct but God helps those who help themselves.

[Freedom]

Again, humans are really to blame.

People brought cats on Islands and into other areas where there had never been cats, the native species had evolved with no natural defense nor instinctive fear of of cats.

Yyyyyyyeah but when you think about the whole "survival of the fittest" any animal that's going around that has "no natural defense" AND "no instinctive fear" probably ain't really the best equipped for survival.


Yes humans, but God damn....Kiwis are fucking helpless. I don't want them extinct but God helps those who help themselves.

Kiwis and other species had evolved natural defenses and instinctive fear for predators that had evolved around them. They could help themselves very well, until humans came along.

Put humans on some planet with creatures similar to pterosaurids and allosaurids, and we'll see how "evolved" our own natural defenses are.

[Gandalf]

I agree with you on this Freedom. There are more than enough people on this planet now and if people really want to have children out of love, then surely a child is enough to give them what they want. This idea that women need several children each which is what is happening in many African countries is not only stupid, but completely selfish and contemptuous of the planet and their own children too as they often have no means of raising or educating them. We have more than enough human beings on this planet and with technological changes we simply will not need so many people. Already you see the most humdrum jobs vanishing as we are mechanizing them, so the notion that we need more people to sustain a ponzi scheme is misguided. The ponzi scheme will have to end as it is not sustainable. I think with our destruction of the planet after doing our best to destroy as many species as possible, the next to go will be poor people. There will simply not be the means to support them in a world where countries will be struggling to provide clean drinkable water. Famine in Africa is so common because it is really overpopulated and people have children they have no means of raising. They will inevitably have to die. Why does it have to get to that stage? As a person just stop having all these children. Have one if you like and if everyone does that the world is really in an okay place, but it's the greed and lust that is taking it all to an extreme place. It isn't love to do that to children. It is not love to wipe out habitats or destroy species.

I would much rather we have a world with all these beautiful creatures preserved, but as a species we seem to be selfish and people think they can have it all now and maybe they can try , but the world their children inherit will be a very harsh one. They will likely try and flee to Europe, but Europe does not owe every woman and her seven children a welfare check or even a job for that matter.

[walrus]

I agree with you on this Freedom. There are more than enough people on this planet now and if people really want to have children out of love, then surely a child is enough to give them what they want. This idea that women need several children each which is what is happening in many African countries is not only stupid, but completely selfish and contemptuous of the planet and their own children too as they often have no means of raising or educating them. We have more than enough human beings on this planet and with technological changes we simply will not need so many people. Already you see the most humdrum jobs vanishing as we are mechanizing them, so the notion that we need more people to sustain a ponzi scheme is misguided. The ponzi scheme will have to end as it is not sustainable. I think with our destruction of the planet after doing our best to destroy as many species as possible, the next to go will be poor people. There will simply not be the means to support them in a world where countries will be struggling to provide clean drinkable water. Famine in Africa is so common because it is really overpopulated and people have children they have no means of raising. They will inevitably have to die. Why does it have to get to that stage? As a person just stop having all these children. Have one if you like and if everyone does that the world is really in an okay place, but it's the greed and lust that is taking it all to an extreme place. It isn't love to do that to children. It is not love to wipe out habitats or destroy species.

I would much rather we have a world with all these beautiful creatures preserved, but as a species we seem to be selfish and people think they can have it all now and maybe they can try , but the world their children inherit will be a very harsh one. They will likely try and flee to Europe, but Europe does not owe every woman and her seven children a welfare check or even a job for that matter.

I started the thread so of course I care about these animals. The way lions, cheetahs, panthers and other wild cats are being threatened with extinction really gets me but on the other hand 99.9 percent of everything that lived on the planet has gone extinct through time. I guess it’s the way it goes but certainly we speed up the process.