I know it is another in the Corona thread anthology, but I just thought I would put it out there. We all know someone who has had heart disease, cancer, or got diabetes, but does anyone have a confirmed Corona infection in their family on here?
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I know it is another in the Corona thread anthology, but I just thought I would put it out there. We all know someone who has had heart disease, cancer, or got diabetes, but does anyone have a confirmed Corona infection in their family on here?
I do apologize for the spelling in the poll. I was drinking a protein drink and typing with a solitary digit at the same time. It is a messy habit.
can i ask how would we know? i mean really know & have 100% proof someone had it
& thank you for setting the poll so we can see who voted for what
@Gandalf your asking for people to give out personal information it should be private. Health information is protected. How do I know google won’t use your poll to sell me masks or tell my health insurerQuote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
Poor Palmer with with drunk old, sit on my knee, Uncle Albert. No wonder he wants him to get it. Bloody Uncle Albert.
Nothing yet and hopefully not before a vaccine.
When we look at related deaths you also have to factor in the lock down would have slowed down the virus.
i call bullshit on the one yes vote
i thought you would be against vaccines. are you aware of what bill gates did in india? we never locked down the world for tuberculosisQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
Why would I be against vaccines? I made sure my kids had the MMR when a crazy doctor said it caused problems and he was proved wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by TICi thought you would be against vaccines. are you aware of what bill gates did in india? we never locked down the world for tuberculosisQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
I heard you mention Gates and TB but not sure what you were getting at.
I suspect Palmerq is joking having voted for 3 options including the Corona beverage and Pervy Uncle Albert. or he might just be very unlucky.Quote:
Originally Posted by TIC
Both my sisters, all their friends and family and even one of their dogs has had it. 111 said. All beat it. None officially tested. I kid you not.
Not to rain on your parade here Master, but #1 A vaccine ain't coming anytime soon and #2 even if we do get a vaccine, by that time the virus will likely have mutated.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Looking at the revised models at present the death toll is similar to the flu WITH flu vaccine and that's with the folks in charge chalking everything they can up to Chinese Coronavirus sooooo I'm feeling like we can get back at our regular lives sooner rather than later.
I can tell you this, there's a lot of bullshit going on with certain governors here in the US Gov. Whitmer in Michigan is wielding power like a tyrant. She's banned people from buying seeds to grow their own food, she's banned people from travelling between properties they own, she's banned a drive in Church service where parishioners were in their own cars, she set the fucking state police on them.
The governor of my state has now limited any business to 20% of their capacity so going to get groceries will now be like trying to get into the hottest night club.
It's bullshit hell in England they're arresting people being out in nature, sunbathing, having picnics. But hey anything for "safety" right :rolleyes:
I think they have warned/advised people and if anyone has been arrested they probably deserved it.
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Originally Posted by El KabongNot to rain on your parade here Master, but #1 A vaccine ain't coming anytime soon and #2 even if we do get a vaccine, by that time the virus will likely have mutated.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Looking at the revised models at present the death toll is similar to the flu WITH flu vaccine and that's with the folks in charge chalking everything they can up to Chinese Coronavirus sooooo I'm feeling like we can get back at our regular lives sooner rather than later.
I can tell you this, there's a lot of bullshit going on with certain governors here in the US Gov. Whitmer in Michigan is wielding power like a tyrant. She's banned people from buying seeds to grow their own food, she's banned people from travelling between properties they own, she's banned a drive in Church service where parishioners were in their own cars, she set the fucking state police on them.
The governor of my state has now limited any business to 20% of their capacity so going to get groceries will now be like trying to get into the hottest night club.
It's bullshit hell in England they're arresting people being out in nature, sunbathing, having picnics. But hey anything for "safety" right :rolleyes:
There is no evidence anywhere suggesting that Coronavirus deaths are similar to the Flu with Flu vaccine. You are comparing an average 0.1% death rate with something multiple times that number even if you don't believe the 3% estimate.
You just made it up. And you saying
"...I'm feeling like we can get back at our regular lives sooner rather than later. "
is not just you voicing an opinion, it is you demanding that money and your wishes take precedence over the saving of other people's lives. Just like this entire thread, if it is not your direct family you and Gandalf don't give a shit. Like most nationalists what you really mean is there is no such thing as society, only me and my own, and i will watch anyone die before i give up an ounce of anything that is mine. You are basically Gollum with a gun.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/07/healt...del/index.htmlQuote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
n influential model tracking the coronavirus pandemic in the United States now predicts that fewer people will die and fewer hospital beds will be needed compared to its estimates from last week.
As of Wednesday, the model predicted the virus will kill 60,000 people in the United States over the next four months. That's about 33,000 fewer deaths than the model estimated last Thursday.
https://www.health.com/condition/col...flu-every-year
This season CDC estimates that, as of mid-March, between 29,000 and 59,000 have died due to influenza illnesses.
60K = The Flu
I don't make the numbers I just look at them and 60K is the Flu WITH a vaccine.
My rights aren't "wishes" and money? Dude I've been working, I've not stopped working this entire time....but hey what would you know about that right?
I don't give a shit unless it's "me and my own"? Beanz the shit you don't know about me could fill several fucking libraries. Stay your scared ass at home if you want.
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Originally Posted by El Kabonghttps://www.cnn.com/2020/04/07/healt...del/index.htmlQuote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
n influential model tracking the coronavirus pandemic in the United States now predicts that fewer people will die and fewer hospital beds will be needed compared to its estimates from last week.
As of Wednesday, the model predicted the virus will kill 60,000 people in the United States over the next four months. That's about 33,000 fewer deaths than the model estimated last Thursday.
https://www.health.com/condition/col...flu-every-year
This season CDC estimates that, as of mid-March, between 29,000 and 59,000 have died due to influenza illnesses.
60K = The Flu
I don't make the numbers I just look at them and 60K is the Flu WITH a vaccine.
My rights aren't "wishes" and money? Dude I've been working, I've not stopped working this entire time....but hey what would you know about that right?
I don't give a shit unless it's "me and my own"? Beanz the shit you don't know about me could fill several fucking libraries. Stay your scared ass at home if you want.
This is from your article Billy Bullshitter
"So while the flu has long been considered a dangerous seasonal scourge, new data on the COVID-19 epidemic underscore a frightening fact: COVID-19 is even deadlier."
It is like having a conversation with someone who has been hypnotized by the Honey monster.
You are talking about estimated models and then dismissing them in the same breath. Comparing 4 months to a year and pretending that 22 000+ dead Americans is some kind of acceptable casualty number as long as you get to defend Trump. More reported deaths than any other country and yet here you are trying to pretend it is no big deal.
You rights are your wishes, of course they are, God never gave them to you and you never earned them. You don't have the right to endanger the lives of others by reckless behaviour and you are lucky if like me you can work from home, which I am assuming is what you are doing? Surely you don't have to drive in to sell insurance over the phone? You must have your own desk at home to put your feet up on. In fact you spend so much time on Saddo (more than any other member ever in it's history) it seems unlikely to make any difference.:-X
How does that make me scared and you the guy who never had a fight until he started sparring as an adult the scared one? ;D
If the new data makes COVID19 "even deadlier" then why are the models dropping their estimates?Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
Yes I'm talking estimated models and they've gone from "Oh my God hundreds of thousands will surely perish!" to "60,000"....how? Why? Do you just look at that and blindly accept it?
I don't want anyone to die, but I also would like to live my life. I'm not some sniveling frail little coward.
I go to my office building just as I have been for ages. I even worked on Good Friday. Would you like for me to NOT be on Saddos? It seems to bother you that I am. If it didn't surely you wouldn't take the time to complain about it. Why does it bother you? Do I mention how much time you spend here? Hmm? How many posts you make? You seem to be very troubled by these things......what is the big deal Nazi hunter?
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Originally Posted by El KabongIf the new data makes COVID19 "even deadlier" then why are the models dropping their estimates?Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
Yes I'm talking estimated models and they've gone from "Oh my God hundreds of thousands will surely perish!" to "60,000"....how? Why? Do you just look at that and blindly accept it?
I don't want anyone to die, but I also would like to live my life. I'm not some sniveling frail little coward.
I go to my office building just as I have been for ages. I even worked on Good Friday. Would you like for me to NOT be on Saddos? It seems to bother you that I am. If it didn't surely you wouldn't take the time to complain about it. Why does it bother you? Do I mention how much time you spend here? Hmm? How many posts you make? You seem to be very troubled by these things......what is the big deal Nazi hunter?
The numbers are already horrific. All those people dying alone without their families being able to say goodbye or go to their funerals even. What does it take for you to think you may be being reckless?
You are telling British people that are self isolating for the sake of their own health and that of their loved ones and vulnerable ones around them that they are cowards and scared babies. In fact worse than that you just said
"I'm not some sniveling frail little coward."
Is that just me or every British poster or American or in fact poster from anywhere who are observing social distancing guidelines and staying home?
You say you don't want anyone to die but who would you like me to risk killing or making perilously ill? My Grandkids, Their great Grandmother? The Chinese neighbour? Some random stranger? This thing is indiscriminate and undetectable until the testing becomes available.
Gandalf is doing the same thing and so is TIC. Mocking people acting responsibly as though you are all some kind of rebellious freedom fighters and not just three selfish twats. Why would you do that? What makes you three chumps so special? And why on earth are you going to work in an office building ? How is that an essential job you can not do from home?
Nobody is saying you should not post here only that you should not expect to be able to post without consequence. You don't have the right of no reply, so stop freaking out and over analyzing posts that counter yours, with such a pedantic and stroppy childish line by line breakdown and then maybe others will not feel so intimidated by you , me and the other gobshites hogging the discourse.
I didn't say YOU had to go out. I'm managing just fine, I don't have a comorbitiy. I'm healthy, I'm keeping my distance.....and? What else? Do you want me under lock and key in my house?Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
I'm not mocking anyone. I'm saying where I live the situations surrounding ME. And if I were to lock myself away and not go outside at all and just remain a prisoner in my own home that would make me a "sniveling frail little coward"..... do you comprehend that or would you care for me to explain it another way which you find more suitable.
I never knew posting on this site I'd have to accommodate your delicate constitution in how I post, but apparently this is the law of the land now that I get the kid gloves out and treat Beanz really super kind while he feels free to hurl all sorts of insults at me.
Beanz if "Nobody is saying you should not post here" what the fuck are you doing complaining about how often I post or how much time I'm here or how I decide to express myself via post? What the fuck is it with you huh?
"You don't have the right of no reply" ....yeah hey asshole, I fucking know that just like i know you don't get to fucking dictate how I'd like to post so stop confusing the two. You reply how you want, but come with something better than 'I don't like when you break down a post bit by bit or how you number responses or how you say things that I don't like'. And just like that we're right back at square one with you telling me and everyone else: 1. You post too much 2. I don't like how you post 3. You spend too much time here 4. You don't get the right of no reply.
Well your fucking replies are bullshit think up some better ones.
Nice way of dodging all the questions and the fact you called the majority of the forum frail snivelling cowards.
Oh look another post being judgmental about how I post....I'm so shocked.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
Yes allow me to answer all of your questions :rolleyes:
"What does it take for you to think you may be being reckless?" Well there's got to be a threat doesn't there.My state has a population of 10.49 million people. There have been 4,520 "confirmed cases" and 81 deaths. There's not even 200 people in my city with it. "Is that just me or every British poster or American or in fact poster from anywhere who are observing social distancing guidelines and staying home?"...Oh you're no doubt very fragile, but no, I explained that it would be ME if I decided to hole up in my house and not go out at all. Also I'm keeping my social distance, I'm washing my hands and all that jazz, is that not enough for you? Do you want me walking around in a hazmat suit? "who would you like me to risk killing or making perilously ill?" I didn't say you had to go out at all and I am fully aware your situation is far different than mine, do you not understand that your situation is different than mine? "Why would you do that?" My situation is different from yours apparently, you've got comorbities as do the people you are related to and care about, I don't have those, my loved ones typically don't have those, but the ones that do we accommodate. "What makes you three chumps so special?" I don't speak for the other 2. "And why on earth are you going to work in an office building?" Because it's my job, it ain't like the place is overrun with people. "How is that an essential job you can not do from home?" The state says it's essential, but hey call and complain why don't you.
Hope that helps. I await another complaint about how I've posted "Why is it like that?" I could hand you a gold bar and you'd fucking whine about it
Nope
what crime did they commit? did they hurt someone? did they rob? or did they just go against another persons ideas?Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
what makes you so special you think we should listen to you? prove to me i am putting other lives at risk, you don't know. you only believe what you have been told. you are a coward. stay inside if you are afraid. fresh air & sun is a good thing. staying isolated inside, scared is notQuote:
Originally Posted by BeanzQuote:
Originally Posted by El KabongIf the new data makes COVID19 "even deadlier" then why are the models dropping their estimates?Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
Yes I'm talking estimated models and they've gone from "Oh my God hundreds of thousands will surely perish!" to "60,000"....how? Why? Do you just look at that and blindly accept it?
I don't want anyone to die, but I also would like to live my life. I'm not some sniveling frail little coward.
I go to my office building just as I have been for ages. I even worked on Good Friday. Would you like for me to NOT be on Saddos? It seems to bother you that I am. If it didn't surely you wouldn't take the time to complain about it. Why does it bother you? Do I mention how much time you spend here? Hmm? How many posts you make? You seem to be very troubled by these things......what is the big deal Nazi hunter?
The numbers are already horrific. All those people dying alone without their families being able to say goodbye or go to their funerals even. What does it take for you to think you may be being reckless?
You are telling British people that are self isolating for the sake of their own health and that of their loved ones and vulnerable ones around them that they are cowards and scared babies. In fact worse than that you just said
"I'm not some sniveling frail little coward."
Is that just me or every British poster or American or in fact poster from anywhere who are observing social distancing guidelines and staying home?
You say you don't want anyone to die but who would you like me to risk killing or making perilously ill? My Grandkids, Their great Grandmother? The Chinese neighbour? Some random stranger? This thing is indiscriminate and undetectable until the testing becomes available.
Gandalf is doing the same thing and so is TIC. Mocking people acting responsibly as though you are all some kind of rebellious freedom fighters and not just three selfish twats. Why would you do that? What makes you three chumps so special? And why on earth are you going to work in an office building ? How is that an essential job you can not do from home?
Nobody is saying you should not post here only that you should not expect to be able to post without consequence. You don't have the right of no reply, so stop freaking out and over analyzing posts that counter yours, with such a pedantic and stroppy childish line by line breakdown and then maybe others will not feel so intimidated by you , me and the other gobshites hogging the discourse.
What's this shit about people in South Korea getting it a second time?
We could well be fucked
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Originally Posted by Mark TKO
Apparently they did not even get it the first time unless they were in Gandalf's family
I don't think anyone said that. So nobody in your extremely large and fertile family has it? They have everything else but not this. See it affects relatively few people. The issue is more the lack of beds in the UK. Countries with medical facilities do not have the same issues with it. Is it contagious? It seems to be, but so is fear and the willingness to give up everything. You do not blink at the other 150,000 who died this year. People are always dying.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanzQuote:
Originally Posted by Mark TKO
Apparently they did not even get it the first time unless they were in Gandalf's family
I always argue to be cautious and mask up...which few do there. I argue for self responsibility, but that does not mean haranguing people in parks who are not near anybody. The police have no masks and do not social distance. Leave them alone. If you are geninely scared, then stay at home.
fareed zakaria was on cnn saying they had massively overestimated the fatality of covid-19. dr john ioannides was saying that the numbers are actually similar to the seasonal flu & he estimates that fewer than forty thousand deaths will occur from covid-19, mainstream media is admitting this. the world has been shutdown on nothing more than assumptions, predictions & beliefs. fareed even stated that they don't have an understanding of how the virus spreads, but they still set social distancing & stay in place rules. the 3.4 fatality rate from the who was a lie. but these are the experts you just have to believe them
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And long may that be so. Welcome to the forum Daniel.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel_A
So the results of the poll then? What does the data say Miles? Did it achieve what it set out to?
I'm intrigued.
See, this is another case in point. You are discussing something with Lyle yet HAVE to throw my name in there for your jollies. No, I have never said I do not give a shit unless it is someone in my family, so why would you say that? That is projection and a horrible slur. I was merely curious to know if anyone actually has someone close to them who has caught it because I don't know anyone. Not even beyond family. I do know death as my wife's old school friend lost her husband today from heart disease. He was younger than you and older than I. That is something tangible to me, but Corona frankly isn't at this point and I hope it remains so. I am sorry if you consider it selfish that I do not want anyone in my family to get sick.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanzQuote:
Originally Posted by El KabongNot to rain on your parade here Master, but #1 A vaccine ain't coming anytime soon and #2 even if we do get a vaccine, by that time the virus will likely have mutated.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Looking at the revised models at present the death toll is similar to the flu WITH flu vaccine and that's with the folks in charge chalking everything they can up to Chinese Coronavirus sooooo I'm feeling like we can get back at our regular lives sooner rather than later.
I can tell you this, there's a lot of bullshit going on with certain governors here in the US Gov. Whitmer in Michigan is wielding power like a tyrant. She's banned people from buying seeds to grow their own food, she's banned people from travelling between properties they own, she's banned a drive in Church service where parishioners were in their own cars, she set the fucking state police on them.
The governor of my state has now limited any business to 20% of their capacity so going to get groceries will now be like trying to get into the hottest night club.
It's bullshit hell in England they're arresting people being out in nature, sunbathing, having picnics. But hey anything for "safety" right :rolleyes:
There is no evidence anywhere suggesting that Coronavirus deaths are similar to the Flu with Flu vaccine. You are comparing an average 0.1% death rate with something multiple times that number even if you don't believe the 3% estimate.
You just made it up. And you saying
"...I'm feeling like we can get back at our regular lives sooner rather than later. "
is not just you voicing an opinion, it is you demanding that money and your wishes take precedence over the saving of other people's lives. Just like this entire thread, if it is not your direct family you and Gandalf don't give a shit. Like most nationalists what you really mean is there is no such thing as society, only me and my own, and i will watch anyone die before i give up an ounce of anything that is mine. You are basically Gollum with a gun.
You should really analyze yourself more and wonder if people really get annoyed with your honesty or actually your dishonesty and inability to treat as human beings. I wonder sometimes if you do it because when people do get nasty back you and they eventually always do you then play the victim card. You are basically asking for it yourself, aren't you really?
Actually Lyle does have a fair point. Certainly here the death rate is closer to 2% and is mostly older people or people with existing conditions like a bloke waiting for a transplant. If you actually factor in health and age, the death rate is according to the WHO about 0.4% for someone of our age and factoring in country even lower here, so in that regard Lyle is not totally off base.
There were people like Merkel, virus experts etc, predicting the greatest of calamities and it just has not happened like that. Some of that is down to good governance as people have been shielded from getting it. Is Lyle closer to 1 million plus deaths or closer to the flu deaths? Take your pick and you know the answer.
It does not mean anyone wants anyone to die or wants anyone to not be cautious, but your view that people don't want to give things up is strange. Give what up exactly? I do not know what you are talking about once again. I pay my taxes and of course do not have to pay council tax and that is the way I like it. I am happy to contribute towards society, but obviously do not endorse communism. Stop talking such utter nonsense and vote in the poll. I suspect that you are a no as well, but just want to squabble.
I think the conclusion of this investigation is that nobody here knows anybody in their family with the Corona virus. Fenster has a family where there are a lot of paranoid people with colds and Palmer has a pervy drunkard Uncle Albert who has the booze version, but nobody actually has the Corona virus. Personally I have not had a common cold for about 18 months due to a daily regimen of Ginseng that temporarily spiked my estrogen levels. There are side effects to everything, but my nasal passages remain uncongested.Quote:
Originally Posted by Memphis
It is a mysterious one for me. I suspect it is very nasty, but I also think it is somewhat uncommon partly due to the efforts of governments to encourage social distancing and arresting people surfing on the ocean completely alone whilst doing no distancing of their own during the arresting process.
My hope for the future is that you all stay safe and avoid using a hanky as it can collect residue for an extended duration. Use something disposable and wash your hands afterwards. Be positive and enjoy life because it is short and cancer or heart disease will typically be the ones that take you down early.
That explains a lotQuote:
Originally Posted by GandalfI think the conclusion of this investigation is that nobody here knows anybody in their family with the Corona virus. Fenster has a family where there are a lot of paranoid people with colds and Palmer has a pervy drunkard Uncle Albert who has the booze version, but nobody actually has the Corona virus. Personally I have not had a common cold for about 18 months due to a daily regimen of Ginseng that temporarily spiked my estrogen levels. There are side effects to everything, but my nasal passages remain uncongested.Quote:
Originally Posted by Memphis
It is a mysterious one for me. I suspect it is very nasty, but I also think it is somewhat uncommon partly due to the efforts of governments to encourage social distancing and arresting people surfing on the ocean completely alone whilst doing no distancing of their own during the arresting process.
My hope for the future is that you all stay safe and avoid using a hanky as it can collect residue for an extended duration. Use something disposable and wash your hands afterwards. Be positive and enjoy life because it is short and cancer or heart disease will typically be the ones that take you down early.
11, 329 Deaths in UK Hospitals alone.
214 in South Korea.
Gandalf doesn't have a clue.
Gandalf doesn't give a shit.
Who here does not know someone personally who has been affected?
When we don't even have enough tests for NHS Staff how would anyone know?
Only a little bit one time. Apparently some men have the estrogen levels of menstruating women which is in the hundreds. I love my conversations with experts as they tell me the most interesting things. I would never have known that there are men with boobs who are in the permanent state of a woman on her period. Well, I do interact with Beanz, but I never really think of him as betitted. Isn't that awesome? My numbers were only slightly elevated a few points over the male norm which was nothing and why the doctor told me about the period men saying not to worry. We realized my ginseng consumption was a bit high. I learned all this as I do regular blood work. No symptoms. All of us men produce estrogen and you do too. I am within a normal range again now and am not betitted. Very slender is I.
Sometimes things just spike randomly too. My liver did one time when checking something else. I spent a hundred quid on an ultrasound and then 50 quid on blood work, but normal again a week later. 'What was it?' you ask and nobody knows most of the time.
The body works in mysterious ways, but I am of the view that everything happens for a reason. You just have to Sherlock Holmes it.
Yes, and 200,000 have died from other causes in that time too. I have continually said that we overlook those things and we do. Do I? Obviously not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
Of course I have a clue. Do you think I do not read the news or see people not social distancing there? Maybe they do not give a shit, but I always argue for self responsibility and wear a mask and never put others in harms way.
Has anyone in your family had it? Yes or No? Stop the estrogen thing and vote.
Yes I have it so does my Mrs, our grandson had it, her brother and Mum have it, and my Dad had it.
Or do we/did we?
Fuck knows without a test.
And shove your poll up your arse.
It won't be the first or last time will it Gladys?
So you are saying that it is something that affects most very mildly then? No hospitals, no symptoms? Impressive. You are giving Fensters family a run for their money.
In other words you are too stubborn to admit that your answer is no. There is no shame in that, nobody wants it. It is just something we should ask. We know people AFFECTED by it as everyone is, but who actually has it? Is that such a terrible question?
Why so hysterical? And yes, more people should get tubes up their arses. It would save so many. Of course I want to see people live and prosper and not find they have stage 4 cancer.