Has anybody in your family had the Corona virus?

[El Kabong]

Nothing yet and hopefully not before a vaccine.

When we look at related deaths you also have to factor in the lock down would have slowed down the virus.

Not to rain on your parade here Master, but #1 A vaccine ain't coming anytime soon and #2 even if we do get a vaccine, by that time the virus will likely have mutated.


Looking at the revised models at present the death toll is similar to the flu WITH flu vaccine and that's with the folks in charge chalking everything they can up to Chinese Coronavirus sooooo I'm feeling like we can get back at our regular lives sooner rather than later.


I can tell you this, there's a lot of bullshit going on with certain governors here in the US Gov. Whitmer in Michigan is wielding power like a tyrant. She's banned people from buying seeds to grow their own food, she's banned people from travelling between properties they own, she's banned a drive in Church service where parishioners were in their own cars, she set the fucking state police on them.


The governor of my state has now limited any business to 20% of their capacity so going to get groceries will now be like trying to get into the hottest night club.


It's bullshit hell in England they're arresting people being out in nature, sunbathing, having picnics. But hey anything for "safety" right

[Master]

I think they have warned/advised people and if anyone has been arrested they probably deserved it.

[TIC]

I think they have warned/advised people and if anyone has been arrested they probably deserved it.

what crime did they commit? did they hurt someone? did they rob? or did they just go against another persons ideas?

[Beanz]

Nothing yet and hopefully not before a vaccine.

When we look at related deaths you also have to factor in the lock down would have slowed down the virus.

Not to rain on your parade here Master, but #1 A vaccine ain't coming anytime soon and #2 even if we do get a vaccine, by that time the virus will likely have mutated.


Looking at the revised models at present the death toll is similar to the flu WITH flu vaccine and that's with the folks in charge chalking everything they can up to Chinese Coronavirus sooooo I'm feeling like we can get back at our regular lives sooner rather than later.


I can tell you this, there's a lot of bullshit going on with certain governors here in the US Gov. Whitmer in Michigan is wielding power like a tyrant. She's banned people from buying seeds to grow their own food, she's banned people from travelling between properties they own, she's banned a drive in Church service where parishioners were in their own cars, she set the fucking state police on them.


The governor of my state has now limited any business to 20% of their capacity so going to get groceries will now be like trying to get into the hottest night club.


It's bullshit hell in England they're arresting people being out in nature, sunbathing, having picnics. But hey anything for "safety" right

There is no evidence anywhere suggesting that Coronavirus deaths are similar to the Flu with Flu vaccine. You are comparing an average 0.1% death rate with something multiple times that number even if you don't believe the 3% estimate.

You just made it up. And you saying

"...I'm feeling like we can get back at our regular lives sooner rather than later. "

is not just you voicing an opinion, it is you demanding that money and your wishes take precedence over the saving of other people's lives. Just like this entire thread, if it is not your direct family you and Gandalf don't give a shit. Like most nationalists what you really mean is there is no such thing as society, only me and my own, and i will watch anyone die before i give up an ounce of anything that is mine. You are basically Gollum with a gun.

[El Kabong]

There is no evidence anywhere suggesting that Coronavirus deaths are similar to the Flu with Flu vaccine. You are comparing an average 0.1% death rate with something multiple times that number even if you don't believe the 3% estimate.

You just made it up. And you saying

"...I'm feeling like we can get back at our regular lives sooner rather than later. "

is not just you voicing an opinion, it is you demanding that money and your wishes take precedence over the saving of other people's lives. Just like this entire thread, if it is not your direct family you and Gandalf don't give a shit. Like most nationalists what you really mean is there is no such thing as society, only me and my own, and i will watch anyone die before i give up an ounce of anything that is mine. You are basically Gollum with a gun.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/07/healt...del/index.html
n influential model tracking the coronavirus pandemic in the United States now predicts that fewer people will die and fewer hospital beds will be needed compared to its estimates from last week.

As of Wednesday, the model predicted the virus will kill 60,000 people in the United States over the next four months. That's about 33,000 fewer deaths than the model estimated last Thursday.


https://www.health.com/condition/col...flu-every-year
This season CDC estimates that, as of mid-March, between 29,000 and 59,000 have died due to influenza illnesses.


60K = The Flu


I don't make the numbers I just look at them and 60K is the Flu WITH a vaccine.


My rights aren't "wishes" and money? Dude I've been working, I've not stopped working this entire time....but hey what would you know about that right?


I don't give a shit unless it's "me and my own"? Beanz the shit you don't know about me could fill several fucking libraries. Stay your scared ass at home if you want.

[Beanz]

There is no evidence anywhere suggesting that Coronavirus deaths are similar to the Flu with Flu vaccine. You are comparing an average 0.1% death rate with something multiple times that number even if you don't believe the 3% estimate.

You just made it up. And you saying

"...I'm feeling like we can get back at our regular lives sooner rather than later. "

is not just you voicing an opinion, it is you demanding that money and your wishes take precedence over the saving of other people's lives. Just like this entire thread, if it is not your direct family you and Gandalf don't give a shit. Like most nationalists what you really mean is there is no such thing as society, only me and my own, and i will watch anyone die before i give up an ounce of anything that is mine. You are basically Gollum with a gun.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/07/healt...del/index.html
n influential model tracking the coronavirus pandemic in the United States now predicts that fewer people will die and fewer hospital beds will be needed compared to its estimates from last week.

As of Wednesday, the model predicted the virus will kill 60,000 people in the United States over the next four months. That's about 33,000 fewer deaths than the model estimated last Thursday.


https://www.health.com/condition/col...flu-every-year
This season CDC estimates that, as of mid-March, between 29,000 and 59,000 have died due to influenza illnesses.


60K = The Flu


I don't make the numbers I just look at them and 60K is the Flu WITH a vaccine.


My rights aren't "wishes" and money? Dude I've been working, I've not stopped working this entire time....but hey what would you know about that right?


I don't give a shit unless it's "me and my own"? Beanz the shit you don't know about me could fill several fucking libraries. Stay your scared ass at home if you want.

This is from your article Billy Bullshitter


"So while the flu has long been considered a dangerous seasonal scourge, new data on the COVID-19 epidemic underscore a frightening fact: COVID-19 is even deadlier."


It is like having a conversation with someone who has been hypnotized by the Honey monster.


You are talking about estimated models and then dismissing them in the same breath. Comparing 4 months to a year and pretending that 22 000+ dead Americans is some kind of acceptable casualty number as long as you get to defend Trump. More reported deaths than any other country and yet here you are trying to pretend it is no big deal.


You rights are your wishes, of course they are, God never gave them to you and you never earned them. You don't have the right to endanger the lives of others by reckless behaviour and you are lucky if like me you can work from home, which I am assuming is what you are doing? Surely you don't have to drive in to sell insurance over the phone? You must have your own desk at home to put your feet up on. In fact you spend so much time on Saddo (more than any other member ever in it's history) it seems unlikely to make any difference.

How does that make me scared and you the guy who never had a fight until he started sparring as an adult the scared one?

[El Kabong]

This is from your article Billy Bullshitter


"So while the flu has long been considered a dangerous seasonal scourge, new data on the COVID-19 epidemic underscore a frightening fact: COVID-19 is even deadlier."


It is like having a conversation with someone who has been hypnotized by the Honey monster.


You are talking about estimated models and then dismissing them in the same breath. Comparing 4 months to a year and pretending that 22 000+ dead Americans is some kind of acceptable casualty number as long as you get to defend Trump. More reported deaths than any other country and yet here you are trying to pretend it is no big deal.


You rights are your wishes, of course they are, God never gave them to you and you never earned them. You don't have the right to endanger the lives of others by reckless behaviour and you are lucky if like me you can work from home, which I am assuming is what you are doing? Surely you don't have to drive in to sell insurance over the phone? You must have your own desk at home to put your feet up on. In fact you spend so much time on Saddo (more than any other member ever in it's history) it seems unlikely to make any difference.

How does that make me scared and you the guy who never had a fight until he started sparring as an adult the scared one?

If the new data makes COVID19 "even deadlier" then why are the models dropping their estimates?

Yes I'm talking estimated models and they've gone from "Oh my God hundreds of thousands will surely perish!" to "60,000"....how? Why? Do you just look at that and blindly accept it?


I don't want anyone to die, but I also would like to live my life. I'm not some sniveling frail little coward.


I go to my office building just as I have been for ages. I even worked on Good Friday. Would you like for me to NOT be on Saddos? It seems to bother you that I am. If it didn't surely you wouldn't take the time to complain about it. Why does it bother you? Do I mention how much time you spend here? Hmm? How many posts you make? You seem to be very troubled by these things......what is the big deal Nazi hunter?

[Beanz]

This is from your article Billy Bullshitter


"So while the flu has long been considered a dangerous seasonal scourge, new data on the COVID-19 epidemic underscore a frightening fact: COVID-19 is even deadlier."


It is like having a conversation with someone who has been hypnotized by the Honey monster.


You are talking about estimated models and then dismissing them in the same breath. Comparing 4 months to a year and pretending that 22 000+ dead Americans is some kind of acceptable casualty number as long as you get to defend Trump. More reported deaths than any other country and yet here you are trying to pretend it is no big deal.


You rights are your wishes, of course they are, God never gave them to you and you never earned them. You don't have the right to endanger the lives of others by reckless behaviour and you are lucky if like me you can work from home, which I am assuming is what you are doing? Surely you don't have to drive in to sell insurance over the phone? You must have your own desk at home to put your feet up on. In fact you spend so much time on Saddo (more than any other member ever in it's history) it seems unlikely to make any difference.

How does that make me scared and you the guy who never had a fight until he started sparring as an adult the scared one?

If the new data makes COVID19 "even deadlier" then why are the models dropping their estimates?

Yes I'm talking estimated models and they've gone from "Oh my God hundreds of thousands will surely perish!" to "60,000"....how? Why? Do you just look at that and blindly accept it?


I don't want anyone to die, but I also would like to live my life. I'm not some sniveling frail little coward.


I go to my office building just as I have been for ages. I even worked on Good Friday. Would you like for me to NOT be on Saddos? It seems to bother you that I am. If it didn't surely you wouldn't take the time to complain about it. Why does it bother you? Do I mention how much time you spend here? Hmm? How many posts you make? You seem to be very troubled by these things......what is the big deal Nazi hunter?

The numbers are already horrific. All those people dying alone without their families being able to say goodbye or go to their funerals even. What does it take for you to think you may be being reckless?

You are telling British people that are self isolating for the sake of their own health and that of their loved ones and vulnerable ones around them that they are cowards and scared babies. In fact worse than that you just said

"I'm not some sniveling frail little coward."

Is that just me or every British poster or American or in fact poster from anywhere who are observing social distancing guidelines and staying home?

You say you don't want anyone to die but who would you like me to risk killing or making perilously ill? My Grandkids, Their great Grandmother? The Chinese neighbour? Some random stranger? This thing is indiscriminate and undetectable until the testing becomes available.

Gandalf is doing the same thing and so is TIC. Mocking people acting responsibly as though you are all some kind of rebellious freedom fighters and not just three selfish twats. Why would you do that? What makes you three chumps so special? And why on earth are you going to work in an office building ? How is that an essential job you can not do from home?

Nobody is saying you should not post here only that you should not expect to be able to post without consequence. You don't have the right of no reply, so stop freaking out and over analyzing posts that counter yours, with such a pedantic and stroppy childish line by line breakdown and then maybe others will not feel so intimidated by you , me and the other gobshites hogging the discourse.

[El Kabong]

The numbers are already horrific. All those people dying alone without their families being able to say goodbye or go to their funerals even. What does it take for you to think you may be being reckless?

You are telling British people that are self isolating for the sake of their own health and that of their loved ones and vulnerable ones around them that they are cowards and scared babies. In fact worse than that you just said

"I'm not some sniveling frail little coward."

Is that just me or every British poster or American or in fact poster from anywhere who are observing social distancing guidelines and staying home?

You say you don't want anyone to die but who would you like me to risk killing or making perilously ill? My Grandkids, Their great Grandmother? The Chinese neighbour? Some random stranger? This thing is indiscriminate and undetectable until the testing becomes available.

Gandalf is doing the same thing and so is TIC. Mocking people acting responsibly as though you are all some kind of rebellious freedom fighters and not just three selfish twats. Why would you do that? What makes you three chumps so special? And why on earth are you going to work in an office building ? How is that an essential job you can not do from home?

Nobody is saying you should not post here only that you should not expect to be able to post without consequence. You don't have the right of no reply, so stop freaking out and over analyzing posts that counter yours, with such a pedantic and stroppy childish line by line breakdown and then maybe others will not feel so intimidated by you , me and the other gobshites hogging the discourse.

I didn't say YOU had to go out. I'm managing just fine, I don't have a comorbitiy. I'm healthy, I'm keeping my distance.....and? What else? Do you want me under lock and key in my house?


I'm not mocking anyone. I'm saying where I live the situations surrounding ME. And if I were to lock myself away and not go outside at all and just remain a prisoner in my own home that would make me a "sniveling frail little coward"..... do you comprehend that or would you care for me to explain it another way which you find more suitable.


I never knew posting on this site I'd have to accommodate your delicate constitution in how I post, but apparently this is the law of the land now that I get the kid gloves out and treat Beanz really super kind while he feels free to hurl all sorts of insults at me.


Beanz if "Nobody is saying you should not post here" what the fuck are you doing complaining about how often I post or how much time I'm here or how I decide to express myself via post? What the fuck is it with you huh?

"You don't have the right of no reply" ....yeah hey asshole, I fucking know that just like i know you don't get to fucking dictate how I'd like to post so stop confusing the two. You reply how you want, but come with something better than 'I don't like when you break down a post bit by bit or how you number responses or how you say things that I don't like'. And just like that we're right back at square one with you telling me and everyone else: 1. You post too much 2. I don't like how you post 3. You spend too much time here 4. You don't get the right of no reply.


Well your fucking replies are bullshit think up some better ones.

[TIC]

This is from your article Billy Bullshitter


"So while the flu has long been considered a dangerous seasonal scourge, new data on the COVID-19 epidemic underscore a frightening fact: COVID-19 is even deadlier."


It is like having a conversation with someone who has been hypnotized by the Honey monster.


You are talking about estimated models and then dismissing them in the same breath. Comparing 4 months to a year and pretending that 22 000+ dead Americans is some kind of acceptable casualty number as long as you get to defend Trump. More reported deaths than any other country and yet here you are trying to pretend it is no big deal.


You rights are your wishes, of course they are, God never gave them to you and you never earned them. You don't have the right to endanger the lives of others by reckless behaviour and you are lucky if like me you can work from home, which I am assuming is what you are doing? Surely you don't have to drive in to sell insurance over the phone? You must have your own desk at home to put your feet up on. In fact you spend so much time on Saddo (more than any other member ever in it's history) it seems unlikely to make any difference.

How does that make me scared and you the guy who never had a fight until he started sparring as an adult the scared one?

If the new data makes COVID19 "even deadlier" then why are the models dropping their estimates?

Yes I'm talking estimated models and they've gone from "Oh my God hundreds of thousands will surely perish!" to "60,000"....how? Why? Do you just look at that and blindly accept it?


I don't want anyone to die, but I also would like to live my life. I'm not some sniveling frail little coward.


I go to my office building just as I have been for ages. I even worked on Good Friday. Would you like for me to NOT be on Saddos? It seems to bother you that I am. If it didn't surely you wouldn't take the time to complain about it. Why does it bother you? Do I mention how much time you spend here? Hmm? How many posts you make? You seem to be very troubled by these things......what is the big deal Nazi hunter?

The numbers are already horrific. All those people dying alone without their families being able to say goodbye or go to their funerals even. What does it take for you to think you may be being reckless?

You are telling British people that are self isolating for the sake of their own health and that of their loved ones and vulnerable ones around them that they are cowards and scared babies. In fact worse than that you just said

"I'm not some sniveling frail little coward."

Is that just me or every British poster or American or in fact poster from anywhere who are observing social distancing guidelines and staying home?

You say you don't want anyone to die but who would you like me to risk killing or making perilously ill? My Grandkids, Their great Grandmother? The Chinese neighbour? Some random stranger? This thing is indiscriminate and undetectable until the testing becomes available.

Gandalf is doing the same thing and so is TIC. Mocking people acting responsibly as though you are all some kind of rebellious freedom fighters and not just three selfish twats. Why would you do that? What makes you three chumps so special? And why on earth are you going to work in an office building ? How is that an essential job you can not do from home?

Nobody is saying you should not post here only that you should not expect to be able to post without consequence. You don't have the right of no reply, so stop freaking out and over analyzing posts that counter yours, with such a pedantic and stroppy childish line by line breakdown and then maybe others will not feel so intimidated by you , me and the other gobshites hogging the discourse.

what makes you so special you think we should listen to you? prove to me i am putting other lives at risk, you don't know. you only believe what you have been told. you are a coward. stay inside if you are afraid. fresh air & sun is a good thing. staying isolated inside, scared is not

[Daniel_A]

Nope

[Gandalf]

Nope

And long may that be so. Welcome to the forum Daniel.

[Memphis]

So the results of the poll then? What does the data say Miles? Did it achieve what it set out to?

I'm intrigued.

[Gandalf]

So the results of the poll then? What does the data say Miles? Did it achieve what it set out to?

I'm intrigued.

I think the conclusion of this investigation is that nobody here knows anybody in their family with the Corona virus. Fenster has a family where there are a lot of paranoid people with colds and Palmer has a pervy drunkard Uncle Albert who has the booze version, but nobody actually has the Corona virus. Personally I have not had a common cold for about 18 months due to a daily regimen of Ginseng that temporarily spiked my estrogen levels. There are side effects to everything, but my nasal passages remain uncongested.

It is a mysterious one for me. I suspect it is very nasty, but I also think it is somewhat uncommon partly due to the efforts of governments to encourage social distancing and arresting people surfing on the ocean completely alone whilst doing no distancing of their own during the arresting process.

My hope for the future is that you all stay safe and avoid using a hanky as it can collect residue for an extended duration. Use something disposable and wash your hands afterwards. Be positive and enjoy life because it is short and cancer or heart disease will typically be the ones that take you down early.

[Memphis]

So the results of the poll then? What does the data say Miles? Did it achieve what it set out to?

I'm intrigued.

I think the conclusion of this investigation is that nobody here knows anybody in their family with the Corona virus. Fenster has a family where there are a lot of paranoid people with colds and Palmer has a pervy drunkard Uncle Albert who has the booze version, but nobody actually has the Corona virus. Personally I have not had a common cold for about 18 months due to a daily regimen of Ginseng that temporarily spiked my estrogen levels. There are side effects to everything, but my nasal passages remain uncongested.

It is a mysterious one for me. I suspect it is very nasty, but I also think it is somewhat uncommon partly due to the efforts of governments to encourage social distancing and arresting people surfing on the ocean completely alone whilst doing no distancing of their own during the arresting process.

My hope for the future is that you all stay safe and avoid using a hanky as it can collect residue for an extended duration. Use something disposable and wash your hands afterwards. Be positive and enjoy life because it is short and cancer or heart disease will typically be the ones that take you down early.

That explains a lot