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How would you have approached
1. Coronavirus
2. Race Relations/Mass Migrations
3. National Debt
These 3 things seem imminent in hurting nations as in plural currently. There are nor right or wrong, just wanted to gauge how stupid I think my government is...I expect to read some statements that would make me say- Now why couldn't our politicians/president/prime minister had done that!
1. Coronavirus – earlier lock down, PPE for all front line staff, care homes being protected.
2. Race Relations/Migrations – acceptance of institutional racism, education, raising awareness of positive aspects, positive action against discrimination outcomes but not positive discrimination.
3. National Debt – accept it an historic debt that cannot be wiped overnight, increase debt when interest rate is low and invest in infra structure which will pay for it.
1. Improve tertiary education: Set up a national concubine system, with me as the prime and only beneficiary.
2. Start national infrastructure projects to kick start the economy: build a massive palace for me.
3. Bring communities together: enslave everyone equally to serve my every whim.
National debts. I know we've got some financially savvy people on board. What would actually happen if everyone just said fuck it. We ain't paying you and you don't pay us. Deal?
1. Institute travel ban from China quickly. Quarantine the sick. Initiate better practices to secure those who are most vulnerable to the disease. If extra beds/rooms needed for patients, don't house in Rest Homes/Retirement communities re-purpose College dorms as nobody is using those currently. Educate public on hand washing, incubation period, etc. Defund the WHO for lying and taking China's side.
2. For Migrations: Secure the Southern border. Allow DACA "Dreamers" to stay IF and only IF they complete a naturalization process. If there is a migrant caravan, find those who fund it and criminally charge them. Our immigration system should be open to all, but we should also have standards for who we allow in the country. Violent criminals need not apply.
For Race relations: Have officers partner with civilians to figure out the best practices for policing their neighborhoods. Bring back "Beat" police (like walking the beat not like violently beating) to form a closer relationship with communities, "your friendly neighborhood officer" and not "this cop that I don't know or trust". Get illegal guns off the streets, allow for illegal guns to be turned in anonymously(though those firearms would be checked for use in violent crimes). End Prohibition on drugs. Root out how gangs make their money and remove them from any and all neighborhoods. People don't want to live in fear, kids don't need the temptation of quick money dangled in front of them when they don't understand the consequences of their actions, and organized crime should not prey upon any neighborhood.
3. Reign in spending is going to be difficult, but austerity must be practiced given the size of our debt. Encourage companies to store their money in American banks. Remove loopholes for taxes and lower tax rates. Get government out of the charity business and allow communities the opportunity and incentive to help provide for their own which would also help with #2 I believe and overall morale in communities. People form bonds over working together to achieve common goals. Encouraging kindness and support for your fellow citizen gives you a sense of pride whereas paying taxes for entitlement programs creates resentment. Also with communities being encouraged to invest in their own communities then they will be better able to focus on the specific needs of their community when big government bureaucracy allows people to fall through the cracks.
I believe Canned Heat said it best....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnPkEyP_Tzg
1. Total Lockdown of all borders, flights, interstate traffic, total police-enforced masking/social distancing, total compliance police-enforced.Quote:
Originally Posted by SlimTrae
2. Firm believer in reparations. Slaves worked for 300 years FOR FREE for Anglo-Saxon slave owners WHO GOT RICH PAYING NO WAGES. No wonder America got rich. Now take your lil' calculator and figure MILLIONS OF SLAVES OVER 300 YEARS working FULL-TIME AND THEN SOME, figure the LOST WAGES AND COMPOUND THE INTEREST, I think it comes out to TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS. So yeah, PAY REPARATIONS TO BLACKS, NATIVE AMERICANS, minimum $100,000 cash to each and every one of them, MAN, WOMAN AND CHILD.
UK must also do the same for Guyana, India, Pakistan, Bangladesh and a whole host of other ex-colonies. TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS.
3. Invest in the US and dont ship manufacturing abroad
Don't forget all the other bastards too:
The Aztecs, Incas, Toltecs, Maya, the Cherokee, Comanche, Pawnee, Caribs, Americans, the Ghanaians, Nigerians, Cameroonian, Tanzanians, Kenyans, Congolese, the Chinese, Koreans, Burmese, the Indians, Pakistanis, Afghans, the Arabs, Sumerians, Iraqia, Mesopotamians, Berbers, Tuareg, Ottomans, Hittites, Babylonians, the Greeks, Romans, Dutch, French, British (don't forget that the Romans, Celts, Scots and English enslaved each other at times) the Maori, Fijians, Samoans and all those other people who practised slavery should also pay reparations. This certainly isn't a full list here.
What about those who are still carrying out modern day slavery? The Saudis, Gulf Arabs, Sudanese, Mauritanians and all those people using brothels and nail bars in our own countries. Should they pay less as they haven't been slaves for so long?
Yes, they should all pay compensation to those they enslaved. You could do a balance sheet calculation for everyone who had an ancestor who was a slave as well as another who was a slave owner. There would be a % payment for the time they were slaves, and a % cost for the time that they were slave owners or traders.
Im sure it would be really easy to work out :)
One of my ancestors a lily white Scotsman came over as a slave...landed in New York and escaped south to his freedom....funny how that works I guess I get money. Ooooh and my wife is an Injun...gimme that cash money $$$$$
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The thread is about if you were the leader of the United States.... Not Mauritania.
But do carry on. 🤣
It says 'your country' ....... the US isn't the only country in the world, dont'cha know ;)
Title: 3 Solutions-If You Were The Leader Of Your CountryQuote:
Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell
OP: These 3 things seem imminent in hurting nations as in plural currently.
America isn't the only country in the world .... and fatboxingfan isn't the only Brock ;D
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Originally Posted by Memphis
It is a brilliant idea that to be successfully executed would first require you do not ask any financially savvy people what would happen. They are not going to be honest with you because it would require a leap of faith to deprogram themselves in order to contemplate it. The whole financial thing is an illusion anyway built to sustain the 1%.
Cue the 'Beanz is a dirty Jew Commie Marxist' brigade about......now
Debt is a claim on future labour. You have to create value to pay off debt. Think about your student loan and how you had to get yourself into a position to earn enough money before you started paying it off. Most people spend their entire lives living with some form of it, not because they are rubbish but because the system is rubbish and the system DEMANDS it. It maintains monopolies. Look at how even after huge financial crashes the 1% get richer and everyone else gets poorer. There is no leveling up. It is the same with countries.
Look at how repayments/compensation for slaves ends up back in the hands of those families that owned slave ships and people like me and you whose families did not, end up paying for it. Those descendants are in the House of Lords because debt is needed in order to keep people working. The same thing applies to the hierachy of countries. Look at how America made sure we paid them back for helping to secure Freedom..Murica fuck yeah! in order to cement their ascendancy.
Imagine if you inherited everything. Not just houses and silver plates but millions of pounds. What you end up with is only yours because of the work of others . You have done nothing to earn it. The only thing those who were employed as labor to manufacture that wealth inherit is debt. And so the system is maintained.
Nations force workers to pay taxes to service debts they never accrued. If you cancel all that debt
you get Anarchy
which is good. ;D
What would really happen? Fuck knows but
There would be a massive new transfer of wealth from Rich to Poor countries.
Lots of fat people would die instead of lots of skinny people?
I am not fit to lead a Country. But I'd hear out experts and professional opinion. I'd respect my neighbor and their property and I'd take less of and not waste citizens money like it was my own private slush fund. Save for one or two state of the art Presidential Jet packs maybe.
I like those ideas. I would go much further than China and automatic quarantine for any returning Brit. No foreigners allowed in for a 6 month period. Review every 3 months beyond. Tourism is not as important as the general economy.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
In terms of immigration, it is unnecessary and costs money and increases social tension. NO immigration for a decade. Deportation of all violent criminals on a dual passport or with a passport from country of origin. Only short term renewable visas for anyone coming in to work. No easy gateway to citizenship. Get the number down to something negligible. All illegals straight out. You burned all ID? Fine, sending you to France where you came from. Macron doesn't like it? Time for words as the dwarf let them onto the channel. Military to do something useful. Outposts at every invasion avenue. It is what other countries do. They protect borders.
In terms of debt a return to the welfare state of the 1950's. It teaches self reliability. Cuts to procedures that are cosmetic on NHS. If you want to change gender that is fine. However, insure yourself or save up. Reduce health care costs by promoting activity and health. Increase interest rates and encourage fiscal self responsibility. Regulate the banks. Close off shore tax havens, do away with loopholes for multinational corporations. You control them, they do not control you.
The debt that exists is significant. Historically you would inflate it away which is cruel. You could just not pay, but that means nobody is lending to you again. You need austerity, but you need to innovate and make your economy strong with technologies that others have not yet invented. No more bailouts. Let bad actors fail. Increase domestic food production as the UK is not able to sustain itself. People should pay more for food and less on indulgences. Appreciate food and pay farmers well, let them hire local people, and appreciate food grown locally.
The minimum wage is plenty and with less immigration less excuses to avoid work and of course with welfare being altered men and women need to be more responsible with their sexual behavior. Wanna be a stud? Get the snip. Wanna be a slag? Take the pill. Wanna love and raise kids in a marriage, then there will be support for you. That is encouraged. The single Mums and runaway Dads will be investigated.
1. CoronavirusQuote:
Originally Posted by SlimTrae
I would have shut the borders down sooner and been more vigilant on the testing and who was at risk. PArt of this damn thing was the panic it created and not the people that died or got sick. If we manged the panic, then things would have been better.
2. Race Relations/Mass Migrations
Can we all just get along? lol... There is nothing you can do with God's people. It is his will to change, not yours. If some douche bag hates a Chinese man, for being slanted eyes, there ain't much you can do about it. You just have to ensure everyone is safe, both physically and economically. Everyone must have a chance.
3. National Debt
Spend that money man. Spend that money. We won't take it with us when we are dead. Just try to ensure that all industries remain open.
Race relations? My view is that you treat people as individuals and as equal in the eyes of the law. This means we do not cover up the industrial molestation of children, we do not kill black criminals without due process (does not happen in the UK), we hire based on ability and merit, we do not have affirmative action or policies that promote any racial group over another. My view is that you treat people equally. However, if those people are not citizens or have another passport and carry out a serious crime then they are automatically deported. They can go to prison, but not at the expense of the UK.
Nobody has the right to tear down 'racist statues'. That is NOT 'democracy in action'. :rolleyes:
merit is only good if there is a level playing field and that doesnt mean in the current snapshot taken. a snapshot doesnt capture passed-down psychiatric damage, near-permanent sense of self destruction, etc. merit would be nice IN THEORY.
There can be asylums for the insane and prisons for the criminal. Easily managed.Quote:
Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell
did beanz really post this? except for some fluff it's a good postQuote:
Originally Posted by BeanzQuote:
Originally Posted by Memphis
It is a brilliant idea that to be successfully executed would first require you do not ask any financially savvy people what would happen. They are not going to be honest with you because it would require a leap of faith to deprogram themselves in order to contemplate it. The whole financial thing is an illusion anyway built to sustain the 1%.
Cue the 'Beanz is a dirty Jew Commie Marxist' brigade about......now
Debt is a claim on future labour. You have to create value to pay off debt. Think about your student loan and how you had to get yourself into a position to earn enough money before you started paying it off. Most people spend their entire lives living with some form of it, not because they are rubbish but because the system is rubbish and the system DEMANDS it. It maintains monopolies. Look at how even after huge financial crashes the 1% get richer and everyone else gets poorer. There is no leveling up. It is the same with countries.
Look at how repayments/compensation for slaves ends up back in the hands of those families that owned slave ships and people like me and you whose families did not, end up paying for it. Those descendants are in the House of Lords because debt is needed in order to keep people working. The same thing applies to the hierachy of countries. Look at how America made sure we paid them back for helping to secure Freedom..Murica fuck yeah! in order to cement their ascendancy.
Imagine if you inherited everything. Not just houses and silver plates but millions of pounds. What you end up with is only yours because of the work of others . You have done nothing to earn it. The only thing those who were employed as labor to manufacture that wealth inherit is debt. And so the system is maintained.
Nations force workers to pay taxes to service debts they never accrued. If you cancel all that debt
you get Anarchy
which is good. ;D
What would really happen? Fuck knows but
There would be a massive new transfer of wealth from Rich to Poor countries.
Lots of fat people would die instead of lots of skinny people?
I don't like to give the demented twat fluff credit, but it is true that all money is debt.
1.How I would have handled the virus:
A. I would institute travel ban like other here (January)- Designate two points of entry only- one on the West Coast (California) the other east coast. So Americans who wanted to come home- have a single port-where medical team to assist. Same for exports/imports- I'd rather have a turtle movement of products, then stagnant.
B. Tell whoever told me to shutdown the economy to go and (F) themselves.
C. Once made known the severity- I wouldn't have sent out stimulus check randomly- especially to people who didn't lose their jobs. WTF purpose did it serve to send money to the employed?
I'd use a 3 tier system
Major corporations would be given option for tax breaks- to supply your employees with tests/masks. Lose money investing in tests early on or lose money being shutdown-indefinitely.
Mid size corporations-much like a deductible. They pay partial- the government assist with the rest.
Mom N Pop Shops are covered completely for providing tests/masks
I would intervene -IF the medical profession told me- a new virus would only be identified by several symptoms- in other words I know of a few people who died because they didn't show the symptoms this government claimed- as means to identify. If it is new, you can't minimize symptoms -as a reason to say-send them back home. That IMO was the equivalent of saying we know all there is to know about coronavirus.
Intervention meaning-holding medical profession accountable- they say only 3 symptoms--and it turns out to be more 8..can determine- those cats lose their licenses - Id go Trump on them- Ya Fired! Serious!
My time in the media would not be spent ridiculing the media, nor the partisan parties using words like hoax- that primed his followers to be skeptical of everything- even truth.
Once January's 1st case- I would have a board -not one person like Dr. Fauci, but a team consisting of doctors and virologists- who in turn could identify others in the world community of medicine- not just WHO or CDC I am a bit skeptical of them.
That way the discussion is always based on virus. Not hoax, not shutting down the economy. That IMO minimizes the media's ability to run with it- creating a panic off a pandemic.
2. Race relations
I'd commission a group per Senate/Congress to create the Lincoln Act.
I would address the nation using the 1st Republican Primary Debate(s) between Abraham Lincoln & Stephen Douglass as the platform- Make Americans aware how each debate- the Republican nominated- had to win by
A. Proclaiming The Constitution was written by whites for whites.
Then revisit his discussion with Frederick Douglass- he told him- there is a greater divide between our two races than any other---so go....go where you can be respected- but Frederick was schooled in white institutions-so he thought Africa was all savage- he had no clue of the resources that existed.
Ask the American to understand- Lincoln wasn't a racist nor a lover of a race other than his own- he was a lover of his country- Once the country can accept Lincoln freed the slaves on his admission- that is what it took to (preserve the union)
We can conclude- there will always be a group of whites who don't want integration. So the Lincoln Act is a hybrid plan for reparations' & those seeking to change the culture.-give them an out. eliminate those liberals who want to take advantage of it- by creating committees/subcommittees, diversity training, wtf is that?
The union today is too racially polarized- and there is no way to identify each racist, bigot. No way to identify the child born into a hateful- bigoted, biased racist household fom that of a person who wasn't a racist- but left behind as the white kid in a black school just dogged. Honkey, cracker, take his lunch money, now. It doesn't justify, but it is understandable some people feel they are driven to one side or the other-as a POTUS I would take that into consideration.
But there is a way to minimize the drawback of integration- Separation. Remember how Republicans back during Reagan/Bush wanted Kurds in Iraq to have their own? Same deal here.
The United States would do a Brexit- Partitioned no greater than 3 distinct territories - all under the military protection of a central federal government- not a central bank- but I digress! Just as the Articles Of Confederation appeared to be a document that identified each state- as a sovereign country, So, too would the Abraham Lincoln Act -restore that concept.
Th Lincoln Act would further identify/remind the people of constitutional limits: It was James Madison that penned WHAT A CENTRAL GOVERNMENT CAN do: "The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government are few and defined ... (to) be exercised principally on external objects, as war, peace, negotiation, and foreign commerce."
In other words, if we truly adhered to the Constitution- the state is supposed to stop racism, but because the states elected senators and House Reps that ran on shit like @Denilson pointed out- Democrats that ran as republicans declaring elect me and I will repeal the civil rights. I will repeal the voting rights act---well since they got elected in the 1960s as Republicans....guess who their grandkids are today?:rolleyes: Republicans my age 45-60.
Federal government sent troops to the south -because that was how they governed- along racial inequality- it is now so inbred in them..
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...og/ar-BB15zP7z
When a white man can proudly walk with a KKK hat on in Wisconsin in the year 2020---and the person who took the picture expressed fear of being revealed for retaliation- then racism is inbred.
When a biracial man can be beatan to a pulp at a drunken cops party in Wisconsin- and the only cop to speak out on how he was beaten into ICU-- quits the police force out of fear for her life- racism is indoctrinated.
Quote: Following a state trial that ended with the jury acquitting the three police officers charged, a federal investigation led to plea agreements with three police officers
Same stuff different decade- why did the federal government have to intervene in Selma Alabama in the 1960s? Same reason why the federal government had to intervened in the 1990s- for the beating of Frank Jude.
A dozen cops...and they had no clue how he got his faced busted, bruised, eyes gouged, ears jammed with objects, scrotum is fucked up?:confused: A president can't solve that. Hate nor racism can not be legislated away.
When you can log onto a website like this that has a thread about racism- and all those accused are just black, WTF?:eek:
When racism is no longer identified by actions and just words? racism is no longer taken seriously.
So if that nation/state cedes- but wants protection for war, peace, negotiation, and foreign commerce."---then they are covered.
Want to ask for affirmative action? Not covered in the Constitution, so one would have to either go to that partitioned state or another continent-
Solving Racism Pt.2
Affirmative Action is in itself a racist act- because it (RESERVES) jobs, position for exactly that- race.
Race/Police:
Policing Units are out dated- they weren't created to be a unit that can break up a domestic fight at 9pm , find the dope in the car at 1am, get the kitty out the tree at 5am, dodge bullets from gang warfare & shift's end.
Defund cops? Oh, hell no. They need to be rebuilt to cater to the neighborhoods they protect and serve- As A President I would again commission a team that would serve to Segway military personnel who turn civilian for roles in policing. Funding for relocation as well- to ensure if it is best for blacks to police blacks...well we got to have a pool to choose from. We don't, so we complain on those whites who police our hood.
My deterrent:
each street light is a potential camera- for detecting crimes in route or exiting- Local factories would provide those cameras/creating work.- it doesn't stop crime- it records the vicinity -to identify suspects and witnesses.
It's storage would be based on a Tandem Reel Time Mainframe- which allows recording of any crimes to forward to the precinct on duty. (reel time- meaning it does not store it)
Because it is reel time processing not batch- once the allotted time passes- say 3 days? That history is erased -preventing Big Brother from using our civilian camera policing crews against the people.
Every nice downtown -has these cameras, why not neighborhoods that are in shatters? Those living in the hood usually don't qualify to be cops--so people outside the community/culture are held to a tougher standard & it is unfair IMO. Don't want a neo Nazi cop beating U down?
We have to revise the policing department- not defund it.
And all this again is based on the Lincoln Act-
"If Congress can do whatever in their discretion can be done by money, and will promote the General Welfare, the Government is no longer a limited one, possessing enumerated powers...”
James Madison
We would be a 3/state/nation. As America isn't Democrat and Republican. There is a demographic growing larger by the day- and they cant stand either party.
That can minimize racism, but nothing will ever eliminate it other than the creator of man.O0
I am under the impression #3 is the most difficult.
https://www.quora.com/What-happens-w...t-pay-its-debt
Seems easy to say- we aint paying- but the consequences IMO are based on conspiracy theories- difficult to prove- meaning there are shadow/clandestine organizations that almost work for the central bank the way hairy knuckle dragging Gweedo the Italian shows up at Joe Blow's house cause he didn't pay the mob.
Wars can be forced on a country- bonds can be rejected- then a domino effect- but hey- IMO this means those who rebound know not to ever attach themselves to a bank- they have no control in raising lower interest, prevention of recession, we forfeited all that- because somehow we think it is smart to say I don't want some politicians deciding that.
Yet elect them and only know the name of the Fed Chairman, nothing more...
Anyone got any solid info- on what happens when sovereign default occurs?:)
I am not in favor of a central bank the people can't identify. I am not in favor of a government that wants to attach itself to a gambling system. want a stock market, fine, but don't attach government to it.
So be it 1929 or 2008 if the stock market crash- that shit is supposed to impact stock buyers, not people who don't give a rats azz about it.
But because we have given ourselves up- then turn around & say thinks like I don't want a globalist this or that...damn U got it already!:mad: USA fucks up...other nations got to bare that brunt- no way in hell can one find Thomas Jefferson, Patrick Henry, Thomas Paine to Andrew Jackson who thought anything other than...shenanigans' by cronyism.
Not sure if GOLD standard is best to get back on- but whatever resources we have in abundance- would be used to match the printing of currency-so we have something compensate @kirkland still around? Interested to hear his take or anyone working in the financial sector- I am just using fantasy to make my dream government, -on #3 that is!
Always been a big fan of The Honorable Elijah Muhammad's idea of creating a territory sovereign within the US, independent and self sufficient, where empowerment allows the uplifting of the people who were so downtrodden and persecuted for centuries.....rather than this committee/subcommittee bullshit.
July 4th his remaining student is giving -I think his last talk- He is pleading for America to save herself from a pending wrath. Or let those of us secede to another territory so this government doesn't have to deal with useless solutions like affirmative action, civil rights...what is that? Human rights is all we need!Quote:
Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell
Unfortunately those are the names so many whites can agree on -that is racist; all black leaders who stand up. No matter the generation. Garvey, Muhammad.
When a great leader like Abraham Lincoln has to walk out to bring in Frederik Douglass, because the military were willing to disobey- no n-words allowed...I mean when Rough Rider Roosevelt- just invited Booker T Washington to dine and find means to let blacks do for themselves...he got met with death threats?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Booker...he_White_House
Different decade, same problem only now, there are so many down trodden whites from cronyism, evil foreign policies and plenty of puppets willing to play prez- racism takes a back seat. I think Dubya, Obama, none willing to do what they know is necessary to save this nation: one may have to place their lives on the line.
The Honorable Elijah Muhammad students to this day are probably more conservative than most whites care to know- they are against abortion, do not accept entitlement programs. Can be put out the nation for adultery, bearing children without marriage. Obey all laws accept the right to bare arms but are prohibited from use- in that they fear it could be used against them.
Today he states anyone who doesn't adhere to the nature showing us the time via adverse weather, the nations uprising, no race or creed can escape. That isn't racist. This is the calling of America.
Is Babylon really a mystery now? or is she known. And if America...or when she falls...what nation other -could be worthy of hearing people saying "Mystery Babylon the Great Has Fallen?:
My pop told me he attended their annual event in like 1972, LOL he said the little dude spoke for 30 seconds...and left. He walked up and said Black man...get up...and do something for self. Stop blaming. Do something for self.
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Good idea, that idea worked really well in Liberia and Israel 👍🏼Quote:
Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell
I kind of like that one. It would be a fascinating experiment and you would see if it is truly all about 'racism' or not. Will IQ levels rise? Will crime alter? Will family dynamics change? It would have to be able to sustain a welfare state for those who make bad choices right? Yes, and once in then that is the path chosen unless one is willing to integrate back as a functioning resident as you only come back on a working visa of course. Good idea.Quote:
Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell
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Originally Posted by SlimTrae
1. I would deny it's existence. When that became no longer possible, I would downplay it. If I needed a Plan C, I'd have plenty of other people to blame. Then I'd get myself some corruptible statisticians and publish numbers that reflected well on me.
2. I would deny there's a problem. When that became no longer possible, I would deploy the armed forces and show everyone who's boss. Then I would turn to my statisticians to conjure up some numbers that reflected well on me.
3. I would deny it's existence. When that became no longer possible, I'd blame everyone else for it. Then I would turn to my statisticians to conjure up some numbers that reflected well on me.
OR..............
1. To be fair, this one's a lot of hindsight... given that it's the first worldwide pandemic in over 100 years. But what would I have done? First yeah... impose travel restrictions from China. No ifs, ands, or buts. Then, rather than threaten to defund the WHO, I would've jumped right on them, demanding that they do their job which is the reason for their existence. If necessary, I would've shadowed the WHO with my own virology experts to make sure this was being given the proper amount of importance. If it STILL spread to my country, I would form and empower (not dismantle) a task force made up of health professionals and economists and would use their expertise to create national guidelines. But again..... none of us have ever done this before.
2. We've had a HELL of a lot more experience on this one. Well for starters, rather than defunding the police, I'd go in the other direction. I'd assign enough funds to police forces to ensure the proper reforms. I would also seek out and remove all systemic stumbling blocks and obstacles that permeate racial inequality. For instance, I would reform public school funding so that all public schools would be funded equally, and not be dependent on what neighborhood you happen to live in. This just perpetuates the vicious cycle and gives false pretense to cockamamie intelligence theories. I would look to and reform housing policies, wage structures, and others..... all based on merit, not racial quotas which just put an ineffectual Band-Aid on what is a gaping, festering wound.
3. That's a tough one. I'd get me a good economist to help with that one. ;) ;D
3 Solutions for the USA ?
I need 8 solutions.
1. THE AGENDA MUST ADDRESS BLACK PEOPLE AND BLACK PEOPLE ONLY
No diversions into non-black issues. Not LGTB. Not minority. Not black and brown.
Black people have no friends. I can't stand the term "People Of Color"
We not only have to deal white supremacists. But Asians who are anti black. White Latinos who are anti black. Native Americans who are anti black.
2. BLACK SOCIETY'S TOP PRIORITY IS ECONOMIC EMPOWERMENT
Black progress is measured in dollars. If black people as a group have got more dollars then we're moving in the right direction. No hand picked black ppl like Oprah. Either we all coming up or we are all going down. The black economic structure needs to be controlled by black ppl. If we are not holders of capital. If we are not able to finance things at an unlimited global and universal level then the system is failing.
White supremacists may hate us because we are black but they're able to victimise us because we are poor and as long as we remain poor we remain easy victims.
The wealth of the USA and the western world was built on exploiting black labour and later systematic racism to trap black people into being a never ending labor, consumer and prison class of people. The Homestead Act gave whites free land which they passed down generationally all the while bombing any attempt at black economic empowerment (Black wall street and Tulsa)
After WW2 Japan was bombed. The USA rebuilt Japan to 20th century specifications and now uses it as one of their puppet states. Japan was given a Marshall plan with clear goals to rebuild it to become an industrial player. The same needs to be done for black business development because white and non black people control the economy of every single black neigbourhood in America.
But there is not single white neighbourhood in the world were black ppl control white ppl's economy.
Black economic empowerment is the foundation.
3. THE TOTAL DISMANTLING OF WHITE SUPREMACY
Black people are up against a system that permeates every factor, every facet of black ppl lives.
Look at how the Japanese were treated after they went to war with the USA. The country was flattened. Not to mention the nuclear fallout which lasted for yrs. But look at them now ? Everyone slobbers and drools over so called Japanese intelligence. They were helped and assisted.
Look at the Jews. They had the Nuremberg trials. They hunted down anyone who was a nazi. Even today if they find a 101 year old Nazi, they'll make stand (actually most of em can't even stand) before a trial but looks at the Jews today ? Jews are one of the most powerful racial groups on the planet.
They dismantled white supremacy in Germany in regards to the Jews. That needs to happen to black ppl today. White supremacy must recognised as the ultimate evil meaning that it's criminalised and outlawed. The same way they did in Nazi Germany
Questions ?
"Well erm. Denilson. They didn't totally eradicate racism in Germany"
Give me what the Jews have and we'll make it work.
4. WHITE SUPREMACIST AND POLICE VIOLENCE IS A HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATION
When other countries shoot their citizens. The USA is quick to call that a human rights violation but when white supremacist do the same to unarmed black ppl then that's proper police procedure and self defence.
The police are the enforcement arm of white supremacy and law enforcement has been infested by white supremacists and nothing has been done to root them out.
That's why all the madness and rioting on the streets is happening.
There are white supremacist beat cops, sergeants, captains, police chiefs and prosecutors who are using sheriff departments as havens and nests were white supremacist can be hired to kill black ppl and the white supremacist district attorney will back them up on it.
White supremacists are terrorists and they should be punished.
5. SCHOOLS CAN NO LONGER BE WEAPONIZED AGAINST BLACK CHILDREN
Black kids are the targets of racist school teachers and administrators. Their chief form of abuse is to claim that the black child has a learning disability and the only way you can deal with them is to put the child on drugs or in special education. They also play on poverty of many black people by saying "We'll increase your county check, if you just give jamal this drug"
Knowing full well that drugs and special ed increases the black child's chances of failing in school, becoming a drop out and ending up in prison.
In the USA they put prisons where the drop out rates are the highest. And now that you have prisons for profit. They need to make sure they have fresh stock.
This is all done so that white kids don't have to compete in the global market place with blacks.
6. REMOVAL OF THE SYMBOLS SYSTEMATIC RACISM ON PUBLIC GROUNDS
Germany has done quite well since WW2 without having statutes of the Nazi's but in the USA white supremacists nazis are on the steps of the courthouses and town squares across the USA. A black person should not have to look at a statue of Robert E Lee or Stonewall Jackson when he enters a court house. because that's a sure sign that he'll get no justice in there.
Germany has train stations, jet airplanes and freeways. All inventions of the Nazis but Germany doesn't have public statues of Wernher von Braun. Sure they kept the Nazi innovations but they put the Nazi inventors in a Museum.
7) MANDATORY PUBLIC AND PRIVATE CONTRACTS RESERVED FOR BLACK BUSINESSES (20%)
The reconstitution of the American economic order.
These entities (Companies) have to do 20% business with black businesses.
Companies in the USA receive public assistance in the form of tax breaks and EVEN tax credits as well free infrastructure upgrades to make it easier for them to do business. Whenever they build a Walmart or a Whole-foods or whatever, they redo the whole dam inter-section. For a Walmart they put up new traffic lights, new sewage lines, they use millions of blk tax money for white companies.
But they'll never do that for a black business. Because when black people show up it "O no !! Thats welfare ! We cant give you nothing" meanwhile they're given white businesses millions.
So corporations that want to do business in a city, part of their requirements to get their business licence is at least 20% of their contracts must goto black businesses that are either purely black sole proprietorships or are corporations that are 75% black owned as a condition.
And if white people can't find black contractor ? Then they're going to have to implement the CHINA LAW.
When the white supremacist came into China they thought that they could run the same game they do on blacks and other non whites but China said "Wait a minute. Hold your brakes white man. You're not gonna come over here and take it over. You're going to have to enter into contracts with Chinese automotive companies and that's mandatory and you'll share it 50-50 with our own home grown Chinese companies. Your not gonna come here and rape the economy and leave us with nothing "
So if a white contractor can't find a black contractor. He's gonna be told
"Say hello to your new 50-50 black partner Mr white man. Every morning. You're gonna go all over the books with him, all over the plans, all over the numbers, all over the blueprints, all over the procedure"
And at the end everybody is gonna know how set up this freeway, this building when it is done.
And if he doesn't like it he's told. "OK. Mr White Supremacist contractor. Would you like 50% of the contract ? Or 0% of the contract ?"
He'll start acting right.
If this happened you would see economic earthquakes in 12 months.
Contacts that go 100% to white businesses needs to be stopped.
When it comes to building the schools, the parks, who get's the contract ? Not black people and if there no black vendors then programs need to be set up to make sure there are in the future otherwise you don't get the contract (The China Law)
Black people built the USA but if black kids are growing up seeing white people building this, building that and they see no one in their family building that's gonna condition the brain into thinking "That's what white people do, that's not for us"
New York that's a city with 20% blk population but all you see is whites doing the side walk work and street work and they keep that for themselves.
And if it's MAJORITY a black city ALL OF THE CONTRACTS SHOULD GO TO A BLACK CONTRACTOR
When small business have stable contracts with larger companies this enables the smaller business to make long term plans. They can get access to lines of credit.
Bill Gates wasn't some business marvel.
He took the idea for windows from Xerox and another guy who did the coding and took to IBM.
He was able to get a contact from IBM for Windows. He didn't get a job with IBM but he went on to be bigger than IBM. Thats how white wealth is built. Elon Musk is the definition of white privilege he cashed out on paypal so now all he has to do is say "Hey, I got an idea" and rich ppl all over the world show up simply to sponsor his idea. It doesn't matter how crazy his idea is people would pump him so much money that it almost eliminates failure
Imagine solid black business had that kinda access to wealth ? There'd be an economic revolution in years.
8. REPRIATIONS ACROSS THE BOARD.
That is the descendants of American slaves. The goal of white supremacist is make black ppl think we are permanent labor class. A never ending consumer class and when you've out lived your usefulness we can use you as live stock for the prisoners.
Glad you see it that way. It certainly would put the rest a lot of suspicions and presumptions on both sides. The Honorable Elijah Muhammad did not want black people to define the word success within the context of the white system, a system which had for the past nearly 400 years crushed their spirit and their identity and had forbidden them under penalty of death from becoming literate.Quote:
Originally Posted by GandalfI kind of like that one. It would be a fascinating experiment and you would see if it is truly all about 'racism' or not. Will IQ levels rise? Will crime alter? Will family dynamics change? It would have to be able to sustain a welfare state for those who make bad choices right? Yes, and once in then that is the path chosen unless one is willing to integrate back as a functioning resident as you only come back on a working visa of course. Good idea.Quote:
Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell
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Illiteracy was the way the blacks survived those 400 years of pure hell
Want to sneak a book under your bed and learn the alphabet? See that noose over there, you uppity N*****?
So now you are free, and carrying the destruction of your soul multiplied exponentially over the past 400 years, the anger the rage the feeling of revenge, the absolute spiritual desolation and desperation, the wiping out of the sense of self by the abusers in the oppressors,. .....
Would you want to be defined by those very same people within their very same systems?
NO, HENCE THE HONORABLE ELIJAH MUHAMMAD PROCLAIMING WHAT SHOULD BE DONE. AFFIRMATIVE ACTION IS A JOKE. THE PEOPLE NEED LAND AND A WAY TO OPERATE AMONGST THEMSELVES TO EMPOWER THEMSELVES AND CREATE THEIR OWN SYSTEM, THEIR OWN UNIQUE SYSTEM, UNIQUE TO THEIR STYLES AND UNIQUE TO THEIR CULTURES AND HERITAGES.
Can comebody define 'black'?
If they don't like it, they could do what you and I have done. Lots of black countries out there. The reality is the single Mum types won't have the same welfare beyond. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBellGlad you see it that way. It certainly would put the rest a lot of suspicions and presumptions on both sides. The Honorable Elijah Muhammad did not want black people to define the word success within the context of the white system, a system which had for the past nearly 400 years crushed their spirit and their identity and had forbidden them under penalty of death from becoming literate.Quote:
Originally Posted by GandalfI kind of like that one. It would be a fascinating experiment and you would see if it is truly all about 'racism' or not. Will IQ levels rise? Will crime alter? Will family dynamics change? It would have to be able to sustain a welfare state for those who make bad choices right? Yes, and once in then that is the path chosen unless one is willing to integrate back as a functioning resident as you only come back on a working visa of course. Good idea.Quote:
Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell
I
Illiteracy was the way the blacks survived those 400 years of pure hell
Want to sneak a book under your bed and learn the alphabet? See that noose over there, you uppity N*****?
So now you are free, and carrying the destruction of your soul multiplied exponentially over the past 400 years, the anger the rage the feeling of revenge, the absolute spiritual desolation and desperation, the wiping out of the sense of self by the abusers in the oppressors,. .....
Would you want to be defined by those very same people within their very same systems?
NO, HENCE THE HONORABLE ELIJAH MUHAMMAD PROCLAIMING WHAT SHOULD BE DONE. AFFIRMATIVE ACTION IS A JOKE. THE PEOPLE NEED LAND AND A WAY TO OPERATE AMONGST THEMSELVES TO EMPOWER THEMSELVES AND CREATE THEIR OWN SYSTEM, THEIR OWN UNIQUE SYSTEM, UNIQUE TO THEIR STYLES AND UNIQUE TO THEIR CULTURES AND HERITAGES.
Yes the welfare has become a way of life. Funny thing though, bitching about welfare as I sometimes do, the corporate welfare has cost taxpayers far more than anything. They never cut GM or Boeing welfare bailouts, but they cut poor peoples' welfare.
We agree. Big corporations need to be more responsible if they want to survive. If the average person is meant to have enough to tide them by for rainy days, then why not the firms that are happy to make hay while the sun shines, but are unable to struggle in an emergency. Let them fall and someone else buy them up for pennies.Quote:
Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell
I feel sorry for poor people trapped / inherited into a welfare mindset. Its a quicksand mentally and emotionally and sometimes even physically. I dont feel sorry for GM or Eli Lilly or Kellogg's. Fuck Conagra and Monsanto. I feel sorry for the poor people getting $820 per month and their rent is a reduced Section 8 $770 per month, then their $210 of food stamps get cut.
I missed this one!;DQuote:
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Originally Posted by SlimTrae
1. I would deny it's existence. When that became no longer possible, I would downplay it. If I needed a Plan C, I'd have plenty of other people to blame. Then I'd get myself some corruptible statisticians and publish numbers that reflected well on me.
2. I would deny there's a problem. When that became no longer possible, I would deploy the armed forces and show everyone who's boss. Then I would turn to my statisticians to conjure up some numbers that reflected well on me.
3. I would deny it's existence. When that became no longer possible, I'd blame everyone else for it. Then I would turn to my statisticians to conjure up some numbers that reflected well on me.
OR..............
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Originally Posted by TitoFan
#1.. per all who typed something here...IMO they actually came across as an indictment. I used a subtle means of this post to get Trumpers to let their guards down:rolleyes: and in the process-rather than asking how did Trump handle the virus- switch it up & see if any would say they would do Nothing different...he's doing a great job!
My bold opinion is that every president is supposed to get what a HW champ gets- that tough match that defines their career! Aint no greatness with Ali - if he fought no one worthy of him being labeled as such, same for a POTUS.
Lincoln had secession & Civil War
Wilson WWI, the Black Plague
Hoover had national cronyism leading to great Depression
Roosevelt WWII & the Great Depression
Johnson had geographical racism backed by states right denying civil and voting rights to blacks
Kennedy Bay of Pigs, Nam, the assassination.
Nixon Nam to Watergate, liberal uprising, gays and gender uprising aka era of the ERA
Carter, inflation, Iranian unrest/taking American hostages.
Reagan Grenada, Iran Contra, Sandinista/Nicaraguan affair
Bush Noriega, War w/Hussein
Clinton, being Clinton, Y2k, Gingrich revolution aka cementing ideological war liberalism/conservatism
Bush Jr, 9-11 death of Americans-Birth of the War on Terror. National cronyism leading to Stock Market Crash, 10 trillion dollars lost.
Obama unparalleled rising unemployment, continuance of war on terror, record breaking filibusters/total gridlock government, Ebola.
Every wanna be great gets that test- Some presidents rose to the occasion, others didn't.
So Trump is walking into what every Prez has walked into. I just listed a few of the doozies as a way to cement this fact: This whole board has agreed (inadvertently) that this president has not handled his big fight well aka won.
Not the fights he picked- wall, move Israel embassy, world record tax cut for rich....he ran on those -picked those fights...but the fight that a leader wakes up and is told - Mr. President here is the issue that will define your presidency.
It wont be just based on winning or losing. But also the process, what was done and not done.
I think of how
Jackson got reelected when banks were doing massive closures on land -in an attempt to overthrow the Democrat. Obama got reelected when unemployment continued rising, but with Americans during both eras, they saw the gridlock from a partisan perspective-impeding the POTUS's ability to do their job.
Who is opposing this president in the handling of his great fight?:-\
IMO if I could describe his fight plan...reminds me of Golata Tyson or McCall Lewis II...I saw a combatant in the ring- but at no time when the doodoo got hot, would either 2 even try to fight back.
That is exactly how I see this POTUS on all 3 issues.
Pacing the ring, but aint throwing. No poetry, prose, just hollering, complaining, blaming. He's the fighter that says "That wasn't the real me in the ring."
He's the guy that constantly blames away his loatheful performances only to inject the line "BUT I can't take nothing away from my opponent.":(
I will give no more than 8 to match your count per post, cause you got a lot that can be responded to!:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Denilson3.0
You stated:
1. THE AGENDA MUST ADDRESS BLACK PEOPLE AND BLACK PEOPLE ONLY I agree from your perspective, but question at what point does solutions become inclusive? To exclude on the basis of race, no matter the problem is itself an act of racism. IN other words, blacks no matter how wronged across the planet, cant use the same issues as those in America who weren't just enslaved, but denied the right to read, to educate, punishable by law. Rather those in Europe have to balance those brown, red, and yellow people who don't know the plight of blacks-but know their own plight. Just seems blacks across various continents have more reason to bond with demographics being shunned by this style of world governance.
2. We not only have to deal white supremacists. But Asians who are anti black. White Latinos who are anti black. Native Americans who are anti black. - Marcus Garvey on blacks going back home on several occasions wrote that in every race there is a lesser thinker that acquiesces to the lower self. My point? He said some blacks wont be invited back if he had his way. Back then - we know they were called house slaves, total contrast to the field slave. Today I interpret that to mean modern day house negro aka conservative.
You are so pro-black -you would allow one like Ben Carson to assist in your rise?:-\ A man who said Obama's healthcare act was the worst thing to happen to blacks since slavery. :confused: U know that negro aint doing nothing but selling himself to whites. You'd allow him to be a part of your government? One who wrote a book that said when MLK Jr was killed- blacks who rioted, found a foe in Black Ben the Best Whiteman Friend...he wrote that he found a janitor's closet open, so he stashed away those scared white teenagers at school from those violent negroes. But when it came to his black mother? he chased her with hammers...as if some black momma from Black Bottom Detroit is going to flee from her child? He writes anger for his people and love for his white counterpart whom he begs for friendship. :mad:
Or Justice Thomas...the man who coined the phrase 'black welfare queens' for white Americans, by labeling his own sister that. They haven't talked but a few times since ...this woman's life story is nothing of the sort, but he helped bring that to fruition. So we have the greatest enemy in black conservatives: a con- serving narratives of how to maintain white supremacy.
https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...246-story.html
We not only have to deal with racists, we have to deal with an internal conflict so strong, it is world wide. African disunity isn't an enslavement problem. IMO it is a spiritual problem.
3. Black progress is measured in dollars. - I disagree. Progress is measured by the treatment of their foundation: The Black Woman, A nation rises no higher than his planting ground for his seed. If he wont treat his woman right, how's he gonna treat his money right? My race is the only one, that leads in the demeaning of his significant other- who in turn raises that child- with the chemical release from a woman, abused, lessened, hoe'd out. How then can her children grow to become successful in business when many fail in the 1st challenge- to be the good steward, a father to their children and most of all to be obedient to their supreme being? Unless, they were given a false god, then finances is the least of the black man's problems.
4. THE TOTAL DISMANTLING OF WHITE SUPREMACY- IMO opinion can only occur if this Is the ending of this world mentioned in a book some people wrote as Biblos, Biblia we say Bible. A ruler placed in the earth given dominion to rule over every living thing- for a duration! Or the reason why one verse states God created man...and another verse "let us' make man in our image. As if the creator really needs a helpmate LMAO!
I interpret that to mean whites didn't just find their way to the top. No race has ever ruled the world, not Sumerians, Egyptian or the ancient Kmetians….he is the 1st. That takes knowledge- to think it is possible to use air to communicate- (radio waves) the ability to account beyond adding & taking away to that of geometry- was received by whites who wrote it...as the language of God aka Freemasons. Given to them bh what they called (THEOS) we use that to say GOD and point upward to the sky- but they pointed south of Hekeptah and called the home of the THEOS Athiopians aka Ethiopia! :cool: And the way he is running thangs...he will be the last ruler placed- for he has caused the shedding of blood in which the malachs were quoted (angels or messengers). Men who are supreme in intellect. Your answer appears to be financial/economical, mines are spiritual.
5.After WW2 Japan was bombed. The USA rebuilt Japan to 20th century specifications - It is considerably easier to rebuild houses, buildings, tangibles, than it is to rebuild a people beaten into submissiveness, denied the right to learn. Absolved of the right to be a man in front of his frequently raped-wife...provided they found a broom stick to jump over and declare their marriage. Giving any form of reparation's to the black man in his current state IMO is tantamount to this:
https://youtu.be/YdH1YQTMYis
6. That's why all the madness and rioting on the streets is happening. In theory yes, technically speaking white supremacists groups have been assisting, we both know that. Protesting in the 1960s--back when it was a black thing with a few liberals didn't bring about such results, we'd have to look at on the spot problems- shit like the killing of MLK Jr led to rioting and looting, meaning spontaneous combustion. but I don't recall planned protests ending like the are now. This shit is planned lunacy. But black have been driven to the point of wondering what good can come from Negros er, uh Nazareth. For only a Supreme God can make the tail, first, the despised and rejected as the head of the table- Well who fits the description of a people hated and despised...even among themselves?:confused:
7. There are white supremacist beat cops, sergeants, captains, police chiefs - There are also black chiefs, troopers like David Clarke who has overseen several deaths in detention- so how do we approach those deaths?:confused: He has aligned black leaders as Satan's children, he wears a southern cowboy hat- though he grew up in Milwaukee Wisconsin during the rise of pimp hats, platform shoes, soul music. He bypassed all that- and makes it hard for a person like me who can respect a person who marries outside of their race, but when Sheriff Clarke married Heather, he pretty much summed up the fact- he was the worst in uniform for blacks, ya know why? Cause that Negro runs as a Democrat.
Yup, every time he won...he played off the ignorance of blacks who saw a black man running for office...having no damn clue he was on right wing radio praising white supremacy. What good does it do to point it out though Denilson, when there are blacks like him willing to do the job of terrorizing his own...just like that Sargant in A Sargent's Story- Hated his own people...and got killed....by of all....his own people.:eek:
8.The goal of white supremacist is make black ppl think we are permanent labor class- Could be but unfortunately for this argument, there is now close to 40 million people unemployed. Black nationalists whom I respect have for years stopped looking for the government to straighten out what they messed up. 40 million ...many of them white are no longer employed.
Mexicans whose government was long fixed -dating back the treaty of Guadalupe, cant find justice here, cant find strong leadership in Mexico- so where are blacks on the to solve agenda? Seems like they are pushed back downward again and thanks to liberals, gays have controlled a narrative- they are the new struggle to take on...& such a strong control in media, entertainment, the ability to fire a mofo cause of his words...now have displaced common working white middle class.
There isn't anything blacks can rebuild- that those evil enough can't tear it down, burn it down...they've done it. So why not take your idea of building black....on sovereign land?
I don't offer them my pity, but it would be a pity on my part if I didn't acknowledge the game aint racism needs to ends anymore-
its the game of haves vs havenots that has to come to an end. Or
Let us call on the creator to give us our own land and let them fight out their ideological war of tory/labour liberal/conservative amongst themselves.O0