Does the Brown Bomber get bombed? Or can he keep George off him like Ali did? Who wins this matchup? Both in their prime. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-wLTD9FeoM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qNvDBVyffI
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Does the Brown Bomber get bombed? Or can he keep George off him like Ali did? Who wins this matchup? Both in their prime. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-wLTD9FeoM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qNvDBVyffI
The Bronze Bomber all day long. He’s too skilful for big George.
Do you think his Sharp perfectly leveraged combination punches would hurt big george?Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
Joe Louis is the greater heavyweight but think he gets blasted like Joe Frazier did.
Louis was a notorious slow starter and did not move enough to deter Big George. Foreman would have the size advantage and would catch Louis to knock him out.
If Joe did survive the early onslaught he would have a chance as George tires but think he would have taken too much punishment to put up an effective attack by the later rounds.
Bronze Bomber is Wilder.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
Brown Bomber is Louis.
Foreman wins inside 1 round.
I know , but in these pc days , I didn’t want to offend anyone……………………….. nah, actually I did fuck up! ;D;D;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlBronze Bomber is Wilder.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
Brown Bomber is Louis.
Foreman wins inside 1 round.
after the multiple................ Punctuation marks there........ The truth came out voluntarily 😂Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraI know , but in these pc days , I didn’t want to offend anyone……………………….. nah, actually I did fuck up! ;D;D;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlBronze Bomber is Wilder.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
Brown Bomber is Louis.
Foreman wins inside 1 round.
Primo ha fatto bene🎉🎊🎉🎊🎉🎊
But primo has done a wonderful thing actually by bringing up the atomic windmill deontay Wilder.
Imagine the bronze bomber versus the brown bomber.
@Master I agree that Joe Louis is the better fighter but that he gets bombed out by big George Foreman because besides being a slow starter, he would not be able to push Foreman back or even stand toe to toe. Joe Frazier for all his pressure style could not get anywhere with George Foreman. The brown bomber did not even really move forward very aggressively. He would be right in George Foreman's wheelhouse for those big uppercuts and hooks. I agree with dark lord Al that the fight would barely last one round maybe two
Brown bomber would make the bronze bomber look silly.Quote:
Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBellafter the multiple................ Punctuation marks there........ The truth came out voluntarily 😂Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraI know , but in these pc days , I didn’t want to offend anyone……………………….. nah, actually I did fuck up! ;D;D;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlBronze Bomber is Wilder.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
Brown Bomber is Louis.
Foreman wins inside 1 round.
Primo ha fatto bene🎉🎊🎉🎊🎉🎊
But primo has done a wonderful thing actually by bringing up the atomic windmill deontay Wilder.
Imagine the bronze bomber versus the brown bomber.
@Master I agree that Joe Louis is the better fighter but that he gets bombed out by big George Foreman because besides being a slow starter, he would not be able to push Foreman back or even stand toe to toe. Joe Frazier for all his pressure style could not get anywhere with George Foreman. The brown bomber did not even really move forward very aggressively. He would be right in George Foreman's wheelhouse for those big uppercuts and hooks. I agree with dark lord Al that the fight would barely last one round maybe two
Walking to the ring makes the Bronze Bomber look silly
And tired. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by palmerq
Wilder has the power to knock out almost anybody. The great heavyweights that had a good chin would handle Wilder's power such as Holmes and Ali.
Joe Louis, should he survive the initial onslaught, would break down Wilder and knock him out inside the distance. Louis would ruin that body and those twig legs would break Wilder.
Lets not put Wilder in the same breath as these guys, he wouldn’t live with any of them .
The only guy out of the top guys that he would even have a possibly have a chance of landing one of his haymakers is maybe Lennox if he caught Him on a Rahman/McCall day.
Agreed and that is unlikely to happen as Lennox would not take Wilder lightly as he did with his 2 losses.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
The fight would be more like what Lewis did with Michael Grant/Ruddock. Lennox would end up destroying Wilder
GregoryCot is a piece of shit
Even a determined turd can find a tunnel :-X.Quote:
Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell
I'd take Louis
Remember Foreman used to like to shove fighters backwardsQuote:
Originally Posted by Big J
My video shows exactly how Joe and his era fought. In that video, does that version of Joe look like he or anybody else would land anything on foreman or people he fought?
Look up foreman louis advanced on youtube
he and guys from his time look like novices compared side by side to no names Foreman fought, and in no way does anyone from that era look like they would last 1 round vs. guys in the 70s-'90s so why did clearly not sane people say louis wins?
Fuck me, this guy really don’t like Joe Louis! ;D;D
Reminds me of the guy on here a few years back that absolutely hated Muhammad Ali , and I used to wind him up say that Ali shagged his Mum and nicked his sandwiches!
Fuck me, what was his name again??
Edit. @Bill Paxtom . Fuck me , whatever happened to old Billy boy! ;D;D;D
The size difference would be to big.Quote:
Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell
In his prime Foreman weighed usually 230 pounds (16.4 stone) where as Joe Louis used weighed about 200 pounds (14.2 stone)
How does a cruiserweight beat Foreman ? Too small, too light, not fast enough. But even with a weight disadvantage, I would not be surprised if Louis was able to pick his shots and take apart the wide-swinging Foreman with pin-point accurate counter punches.
But let's say they had to weigh roughly the same ?
Joe Louis ALL DAY.
Fighters in Joe Louis era's had to deal with much harder living conditions. It was rare that fighters became rich and pampered so early in their careers. Their hunger to win was real. Back in the day fighters used to fight on the streets, the docks, anywhere there was events that held those fights.
PROPER HARD BASTARDS
They had no drugs to save them from death whatsoever. They didn`t even have penicillin untill 1943. People of the times if they survived infancy they were strong babies.and to make it to their teen-age years they had to be very strong of body and durability. The amount of illnesses that could kill one at the time was real, people died from the common measles, chicken-pox, scarlet fever, flues of all types.
You name it and it was there to kill you.
My video shows exactly how Joe and his era fought. In that video, does that version of Joe look like he or anybody else would land anything on foreman or people he fought?Quote:
Originally Posted by Denilson3.0The size difference would be to big.Quote:
Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell
In his prime Foreman weighed usually 230 pounds (16.4 stone) where as Joe Louis used weighed about 200 pounds (14.2 stone)
How does a cruiserweight beat Foreman ? Too small, too light, not fast enough. But even with a weight disadvantage, I would not be surprised if Louis was able to pick his shots and take apart the wide-swinging Foreman with pin-point accurate counter punches.
But let's say they had to weigh roughly the same ?
Joe Louis ALL DAY.
Fighters in Joe Louis era's had to deal with much harder living conditions. It was rare that fighters became rich and pampered so early in their careers. Their hunger to win was real. Back in the day fighters used to fight on the streets, the docks, anywhere there was events that held those fights.
PROPER HARD BASTARDS
They had no drugs to save them from death whatsoever. They didn`t even have penicillin untill 1943. People of the times if they survived infancy they were strong babies. and to make it to their teen-age years they had to be very strong of body and durability. The amount of illnesses that could kill one at the time was real, people died from the common measles, chicken-pox, scarlet fever, flues of all types.
You name it and it was there to kill you.
he and guys from his time look like novices compared side by side to no names Foreman fought, and in no way does anyone from that era look like they would last 1 round vs. guys in the 70s-'90s
so why say Joe all day if foreman weighted the same?, when the issue isn't weight it's the movements
The video clearly shows his whole era were novice like compared in angles/tech/fluidity/timing/defense and they fought really dumb to a lot of times standing right in front of the opposition and waiting for them to counter or to hit them, i specifically chose no names to show even those guys were way more advanced than the whole louis era
https://youtu.be/a27vtfAuSyI?si=3auld8tUUiYmttu3https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a27vtfAuSyI&t=68s
Little bit of a head scratcher there but maybe I'm just having a slow day ;D. And welcome to the forum Joe..
but are you saying Foreman was a better technical fighter with better timing and fluidity than Louis. To go from Foreman vs ex footballer Jimmy Ellis to Joe Frazier is a bit interesting.
My video shows exactly how Joe and his era fought. In that video, does that version of Joe look like he or anybody else would land anything on foreman or people he fought?Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
he and guys from his time look like novices compared side by side to no names Foreman fought, and in no way does anyone from that era look like they would last 1 round vs. guys in the 70s-'90s
The video clearly shows his whole era louis fought in were novice like compared in angles/tech/fluidity/timing/defense they fought really dumb to alot of times standing right in front of the opposition and waiting for them to counter or to hit them, i specifically chose no names to show even those guys were way more advanced than the whole louis era
https://youtu.be/a27vtfAuSyI?si=3auld8tUUiYmttu3
So no I'm not saying anything video proves me right
Ok just checking, think we've read that about 10 times or so ;D. Just so we're clear Foreman was in no way a better boxer than Joe Louis. Up until today that could go without saying though ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by joe smithMy video shows exactly how Joe and his era fought. In that video, does that version of Joe look like he or anybody else would land anything on foreman or people he fought?Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
he and guys from his time look like novices compared side by side to no names Foreman fought, and in no way does anyone from that era look like they would last 1 round vs. guys in the 70s-'90s
The video clearly shows his whole era louis fought in were novice like compared in angles/tech/fluidity/timing/defense they fought really dumb to alot of times standing right in front of the opposition and waiting for them to counter or to hit them, i specifically chose no names to show even those guys were way more advanced than the whole louis era
https://youtu.be/a27vtfAuSyI?si=3auld8tUUiYmttu3
So no I'm not saying anything video proves me right
You can move along trolling video clearly shows everything I said is fact Joe faced novices compared how is that better ? It's not so stop you're so hurt by the truth you're not saneQuote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliOk just checking, think we've read that about 10 times or so ;D. Just so we're clear Foreman was in no way a better boxer than Joe Louis. Up until today that could go without saying though ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by joe smithMy video shows exactly how Joe and his era fought. In that video, does that version of Joe look like he or anybody else would land anything on foreman or people he fought?Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
he and guys from his time look like novices compared side by side to no names Foreman fought, and in no way does anyone from that era look like they would last 1 round vs. guys in the 70s-'90s
The video clearly shows his whole era louis fought in were novice like compared in angles/tech/fluidity/timing/defense they fought really dumb to alot of times standing right in front of the opposition and waiting for them to counter or to hit them, I specifically chose no names to show even those guys were way more advanced than the whole louis era
https://youtu.be/a27vtfAuSyI?si=3auld8tUUiYmttu3
So no I'm not saying anything video proves me right
Whatever you say there Spammy. Foreman decimating Frazier...Louis vs Tony Galento ;). Brilliant.Quote:
Originally Posted by joe smithYou can move along trolling lunatic video clearly shows everything I said is factQuote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliOk just checking, think we've read that about 10 times or so ;D. Just so we're clear Foreman was in no way a better boxer than Joe Louis. Up until today that could go without saying though ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by joe smithMy video shows exactly how Joe and his era fought. In that video, does that version of Joe look like he or anybody else would land anything on foreman or people he fought?Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
he and guys from his time look like novices compared side by side to no names Foreman fought, and in no way does anyone from that era look like they would last 1 round vs. guys in the 70s-'90s
The video clearly shows his whole era louis fought in were novice like compared in angles/tech/fluidity/timing/defense they fought really dumb to alot of times standing right in front of the opposition and waiting for them to counter or to hit them, i specifically chose no names to show even those guys were way more advanced than the whole louis era
https://youtu.be/a27vtfAuSyI?si=3auld8tUUiYmttu3
So no I'm not saying anything video proves me right
Yup it's whatever I say yet it's on video like Seek Help lunatic, while you're at it find a way to bring the fiction louis you created to life and replace the so-called clone on my video, and delete the footage we have now since you have that power toQuote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliWhatever you say there Spammy. Foreman decimating Frazier...Louis vs Tony Galento ;). Brilliant.Quote:
Originally Posted by joe smithYou can move along trolling lunatic video clearly shows everything I said is factQuote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliOk just checking, think we've read that about 10 times or so ;D. Just so we're clear Foreman was in no way a better boxer than Joe Louis. Up until today that could go without saying though ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by joe smithMy video shows exactly how Joe and his era fought. In that video, does that version of Joe look like he or anybody else would land anything on foreman or people he fought?Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
he and guys from his time look like novices compared side by side to no names Foreman fought, and in no way does anyone from that era look like they would last 1 round vs. guys in the 70s-'90s
The video clearly shows his whole era louis fought in were novice like compared in angles/tech/fluidity/timing/defense they fought really dumb to alot of times standing right in front of the opposition and waiting for them to counter or to hit them, I specifically chose no names to show even those guys were way more advanced than the whole louis era
https://youtu.be/a27vtfAuSyI?si=3auld8tUUiYmttu3
So no I'm not saying anything video proves me right
That is Foreman fighting a hapless ex football player and motioning the ref to stop the fight yes? The same Foreman who fought 5 old retired hapless journeyman in the span of one night in Quebec to get his confidence back? But Louis fought nothing but novices right ;). Gotcha.Quote:
Originally Posted by joe smithYup it's whatever I say yet it's on video like Seek Help lunatic, while you're at it find a way to bring the fiction louis you created to life and replace the so-called clone on my videoQuote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliWhatever you say there Spammy. Foreman decimating Frazier...Louis vs Tony Galento ;). Brilliant.Quote:
Originally Posted by joe smithYou can move along trolling lunatic video clearly shows everything I said is factQuote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliOk just checking, think we've read that about 10 times or so ;D. Just so we're clear Foreman was in no way a better boxer than Joe Louis. Up until today that could go without saying though ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by joe smithMy video shows exactly how Joe and his era fought. In that video, does that version of Joe look like he or anybody else would land anything on foreman or people he fought?Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
he and guys from his time look like novices compared side by side to no names Foreman fought, and in no way does anyone from that era look like they would last 1 round vs. guys in the 70s-'90s
The video clearly shows his whole era louis fought in were novice like compared in angles/tech/fluidity/timing/defense they fought really dumb to alot of times standing right in front of the opposition and waiting for them to counter or to hit them, I specifically chose no names to show even those guys were way more advanced than the whole louis era
https://youtu.be/a27vtfAuSyI?si=3auld8tUUiYmttu3
So no I'm not saying anything video proves me right
Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliThat is Foreman fighting a hapless ex football player and motioning the ref to stop the fight yes? The same Foreman who fought 5 old retired hapless journeyman in the span of one night in Quebec to get his confidence back? But Louis fought nothing but novices right ;). Gotcha.Quote:
Originally Posted by joe smithYup it's whatever I say yet it's on video like Seek Help lunatic, while you're at it find a way to bring the fiction louis you created to life and replace the so-called clone on my videoQuote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliWhatever you say there Spammy. Foreman decimating Frazier...Louis vs Tony Galento ;). Brilliant.Quote:
Originally Posted by joe smithYou can move along trolling lunatic video clearly shows everything I said is factQuote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliOk just checking, think we've read that about 10 times or so ;D. Just so we're clear Foreman was in no way a better boxer than Joe Louis. Up until today that could go without saying though ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by joe smithMy video shows exactly how Joe and his era fought. In that video, does that version of Joe look like he or anybody else would land anything on foreman or people he fought?Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
he and guys from his time look like novices compared side by side to no names Foreman fought, and in no way does anyone from that era look like they would last 1 round vs. guys in the 70s-'90s
The video clearly shows his whole era louis fought in were novice like compared in angles/tech/fluidity/timing/defense they fought really dumb to alot of times standing right in front of the opposition and waiting for them to counter or to hit them, I specifically chose no names to show even those guys were way more advanced than the whole louis era
https://youtu.be/a27vtfAuSyI?si=3auld8tUUiYmttu3
So no I'm not saying anything video proves me right
An ex-player? It's multiple people foreman fought in the video so what are you talking about 1 man for?, And yeah Joe fought novices compared the video clearly shows they were way less advanced in angles/tech/fluidity/defense/timing
All you're doing is exposing yourself by even trying to use words to alter the video you do know that don't you,where's you're video proof to go over mine to show they were as advanced? Show the full rounds like me
What you're failing at in your tunnel vision is to simply watch in your vid the angles, technic, defense and feet of Foreman and Louis side by side. That's what actually matters. You don't really think Louis would struggle terribly with a Jimmy Ellis or honestly even a Moorer do you?Quote:
Originally Posted by joe smithQuote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliThat is Foreman fighting a hapless ex football player and motioning the ref to stop the fight yes? The same Foreman who fought 5 old retired hapless journeyman in the span of one night in Quebec to get his confidence back? But Louis fought nothing but novices right ;). Gotcha.Quote:
Originally Posted by joe smithYup it's whatever I say yet it's on video like Seek Help lunatic, while you're at it find a way to bring the fiction louis you created to life and replace the so-called clone on my videoQuote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliWhatever you say there Spammy. Foreman decimating Frazier...Louis vs Tony Galento ;). Brilliant.Quote:
Originally Posted by joe smithYou can move along trolling lunatic video clearly shows everything I said is factQuote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliOk just checking, think we've read that about 10 times or so ;D. Just so we're clear Foreman was in no way a better boxer than Joe Louis. Up until today that could go without saying though ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by joe smithMy video shows exactly how Joe and his era fought. In that video, does that version of Joe look like he or anybody else would land anything on foreman or people he fought?Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
he and guys from his time look like novices compared side by side to no names Foreman fought, and in no way does anyone from that era look like they would last 1 round vs. guys in the 70s-'90s
The video clearly shows his whole era louis fought in were novice like compared in angles/tech/fluidity/timing/defense they fought really dumb to alot of times standing right in front of the opposition and waiting for them to counter or to hit them, I specifically chose no names to show even those guys were way more advanced than the whole louis era
https://youtu.be/a27vtfAuSyI?si=3auld8tUUiYmttu3
So no I'm not saying anything video proves me right
An ex-player? It's multiple people foreman fought in the video so what are you talking about 1 man for?, And yeah Joe fought novices compared the video clearly shows they were way less advanced in angles/tech/fluidity/defense/timing
All you're doing is exposing yourself by even trying to use words to alter the video you do know that don't you,where's you're video proof to go over mine to show they were as advanced? Show the full rounds like me
I don't think anything all the guys in my video from the 70s-'90s show they were way more advanced and they would destroy the louis era, so why do you keep speaking about louis only as if he is cropped and it only shows him?, my video says era and my video shows 2 guys from each era that's 4, so my video is looking at 4 fightersQuote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliWhat you're failing at in your tunnel vision is to simply watch in your vid the angles, technic, defense, and feet of Foreman and Louis side by side. That's what actually matters. You don't really think Louis would struggle terribly with a Jimmy Ellis or honestly even a Moorer do you?Quote:
Originally Posted by joe smithQuote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliThat is Foreman fighting a hapless ex football player and motioning the ref to stop the fight yes? The same Foreman who fought 5 old retired hapless journeyman in the span of one night in Quebec to get his confidence back? But Louis fought nothing but novices right ;). Gotcha.Quote:
Originally Posted by joe smithYup it's whatever I say yet it's on video like Seek Help lunatic, while you're at it find a way to bring the fiction louis you created to life and replace the so-called clone on my videoQuote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliWhatever you say there Spammy. Foreman decimating Frazier...Louis vs Tony Galento ;). Brilliant.Quote:
Originally Posted by joe smithYou can move along trolling lunatic video clearly shows everything I said is factQuote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliOk just checking, think we've read that about 10 times or so ;D. Just so we're clear Foreman was in no way a better boxer than Joe Louis. Up until today that could go without saying though ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by joe smithMy video shows exactly how Joe and his era fought. In that video, does that version of Joe look like he or anybody else would land anything on foreman or people he fought?Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
he and guys from his time look like novices compared side by side to no names Foreman fought, and in no way does anyone from that era look like they would last 1 round vs. guys in the 70s-'90s
The video clearly shows his whole era louis fought in were novice like compared in angles/tech/fluidity/timing/defense they fought really dumb to alot of times standing right in front of the opposition and waiting for them to counter or to hit them, I specifically chose no names to show even those guys were way more advanced than the whole louis era
https://youtu.be/a27vtfAuSyI?si=3auld8tUUiYmttu3
So no I'm not saying anything video proves me right
An ex-player? It's multiple people foreman fought in the video so what are you talking about 1 man for?, And yeah Joe fought novices compared the video clearly shows they were way less advanced in angles/tech/fluidity/defense/timing
All you're doing is exposing yourself by even trying to use words to alter the video you do know that don't you,where's you're video proof to go over mine to show they were as advanced? Show the full rounds like me
as I said you cannot alter the louis era to be as advanced using words
maybe you're vision is horrible mine isn't
Can't really dismiss entire eras with the broad brush though. Even the best of the 90's you focus on had bad showings, ko or near ko losses against much lower opposition. Lewis, Foreman, Holyfield etc. That's how boxing goes there Joe. Louis more than owned the skillset to compete in the era. Also think he ko's Moorer too. That's not me but that's what history says.Quote:
Originally Posted by joe smithI don't think anything all the guys in my video from the 70s-'90s show they were way more advanced and they would destroy the louis era, so why do you keep speaking about louis only as if he is cropped and it only shows him?, my video says era and my video shows 2 guys from each era that's 4, so my video is looking at 4 fightersQuote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliWhat you're failing at in your tunnel vision is to simply watch in your vid the angles, technic, defense, and feet of Foreman and Louis side by side. That's what actually matters. You don't really think Louis would struggle terribly with a Jimmy Ellis or honestly even a Moorer do you?Quote:
Originally Posted by joe smithQuote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliThat is Foreman fighting a hapless ex football player and motioning the ref to stop the fight yes? The same Foreman who fought 5 old retired hapless journeyman in the span of one night in Quebec to get his confidence back? But Louis fought nothing but novices right ;). Gotcha.Quote:
Originally Posted by joe smithYup it's whatever I say yet it's on video like Seek Help lunatic, while you're at it find a way to bring the fiction louis you created to life and replace the so-called clone on my videoQuote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliWhatever you say there Spammy. Foreman decimating Frazier...Louis vs Tony Galento ;). Brilliant.Quote:
Originally Posted by joe smithYou can move along trolling lunatic video clearly shows everything I said is factQuote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliOk just checking, think we've read that about 10 times or so ;D. Just so we're clear Foreman was in no way a better boxer than Joe Louis. Up until today that could go without saying though ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by joe smithMy video shows exactly how Joe and his era fought. In that video, does that version of Joe look like he or anybody else would land anything on foreman or people he fought?Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
he and guys from his time look like novices compared side by side to no names Foreman fought, and in no way does anyone from that era look like they would last 1 round vs. guys in the 70s-'90s
The video clearly shows his whole era louis fought in were novice like compared in angles/tech/fluidity/timing/defense they fought really dumb to alot of times standing right in front of the opposition and waiting for them to counter or to hit them, I specifically chose no names to show even those guys were way more advanced than the whole louis era
https://youtu.be/a27vtfAuSyI?si=3auld8tUUiYmttu3
So no I'm not saying anything video proves me right
An ex-player? It's multiple people foreman fought in the video so what are you talking about 1 man for?, And yeah Joe fought novices compared the video clearly shows they were way less advanced in angles/tech/fluidity/defense/timing
All you're doing is exposing yourself by even trying to use words to alter the video you do know that don't you,where's you're video proof to go over mine to show they were as advanced? Show the full rounds like me
as I said you cannot alter the louis era to be as advanced using words
And you keep editing these ;)
Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliCan't really dismiss entire eras with the broad brush though. Even the best of the 90's you focus on had bad showings, ko or near ko losses against much lower opposition. Lewis, Foreman, Holyfield etc. That's how boxing goes there Joe. Louis more than owned the skillset to compete in the era. Also think he ko's Moorer too. That's not me but that's what history says.Quote:
Originally Posted by joe smithI don't think anything all the guys in my video from the 70s-'90s show they were way more advanced and they would destroy the louis era, so why do you keep speaking about louis only as if he is cropped and it only shows him?, my video says era and my video shows 2 guys from each era that's 4, so my video is looking at 4 fightersQuote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliWhat you're failing at in your tunnel vision is to simply watch in your vid the angles, technic, defense, and feet of Foreman and Louis side by side. That's what actually matters. You don't really think Louis would struggle terribly with a Jimmy Ellis or honestly even a Moorer do you?Quote:
Originally Posted by joe smithQuote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliThat is Foreman fighting a hapless ex football player and motioning the ref to stop the fight yes? The same Foreman who fought 5 old retired hapless journeyman in the span of one night in Quebec to get his confidence back? But Louis fought nothing but novices right ;). Gotcha.Quote:
Originally Posted by joe smithYup it's whatever I say yet it's on video like Seek Help lunatic, while you're at it find a way to bring the fiction louis you created to life and replace the so-called clone on my videoQuote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliWhatever you say there Spammy. Foreman decimating Frazier...Louis vs Tony Galento ;). Brilliant.Quote:
Originally Posted by joe smithYou can move along trolling lunatic video clearly shows everything I said is factQuote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliOk just checking, think we've read that about 10 times or so ;D. Just so we're clear Foreman was in no way a better boxer than Joe Louis. Up until today that could go without saying though ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by joe smithMy video shows exactly how Joe and his era fought. In that video, does that version of Joe look like he or anybody else would land anything on foreman or people he fought?Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
he and guys from his time look like novices compared side by side to no names Foreman fought, and in no way does anyone from that era look like they would last 1 round vs. guys in the 70s-'90s
The video clearly shows his whole era louis fought in were novice like compared in angles/tech/fluidity/timing/defense they fought really dumb to alot of times standing right in front of the opposition and waiting for them to counter or to hit them, I specifically chose no names to show even those guys were way more advanced than the whole louis era
https://youtu.be/a27vtfAuSyI?si=3auld8tUUiYmttu3
So no I'm not saying anything video proves me right
An ex-player? It's multiple people foreman fought in the video so what are you talking about 1 man for?, And yeah Joe fought novices compared the video clearly shows they were way less advanced in angles/tech/fluidity/defense/timing
All you're doing is exposing yourself by even trying to use words to alter the video you do know that don't you,where's you're video proof to go over mine to show they were as advanced? Show the full rounds like me
as I said you cannot alter the louis era to be as advanced using words
Can you provide video to go over mine to show the 30-40s were as a yes or no?,or were they as advanced? As the 70s-90s
Seems like the goalposts keep shifting there Joe. So now it's only about older eras not being advanced. But at first it was Louis/opponents being basic and "can you imagine Joe Louis landing on Foreman or the people he fought". And that's what has been answered ;). I sure can.Quote:
Originally Posted by joe smithQuote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliCan't really dismiss entire eras with the broad brush though. Even the best of the 90's you focus on had bad showings, ko or near ko losses against much lower opposition. Lewis, Foreman, Holyfield etc. That's how boxing goes there Joe. Louis more than owned the skillset to compete in the era. Also think he ko's Moorer too. That's not me but that's what history says.Quote:
Originally Posted by joe smithI don't think anything all the guys in my video from the 70s-'90s show they were way more advanced and they would destroy the louis era, so why do you keep speaking about louis only as if he is cropped and it only shows him?, my video says era and my video shows 2 guys from each era that's 4, so my video is looking at 4 fightersQuote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliWhat you're failing at in your tunnel vision is to simply watch in your vid the angles, technic, defense, and feet of Foreman and Louis side by side. That's what actually matters. You don't really think Louis would struggle terribly with a Jimmy Ellis or honestly even a Moorer do you?Quote:
Originally Posted by joe smithQuote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliThat is Foreman fighting a hapless ex football player and motioning the ref to stop the fight yes? The same Foreman who fought 5 old retired hapless journeyman in the span of one night in Quebec to get his confidence back? But Louis fought nothing but novices right ;). Gotcha.Quote:
Originally Posted by joe smithYup it's whatever I say yet it's on video like Seek Help lunatic, while you're at it find a way to bring the fiction louis you created to life and replace the so-called clone on my videoQuote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliWhatever you say there Spammy. Foreman decimating Frazier...Louis vs Tony Galento ;). Brilliant.Quote:
Originally Posted by joe smithYou can move along trolling lunatic video clearly shows everything I said is factQuote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliOk just checking, think we've read that about 10 times or so ;D. Just so we're clear Foreman was in no way a better boxer than Joe Louis. Up until today that could go without saying though ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by joe smithMy video shows exactly how Joe and his era fought. In that video, does that version of Joe look like he or anybody else would land anything on foreman or people he fought?Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
he and guys from his time look like novices compared side by side to no names Foreman fought, and in no way does anyone from that era look like they would last 1 round vs. guys in the 70s-'90s
The video clearly shows his whole era louis fought in were novice like compared in angles/tech/fluidity/timing/defense they fought really dumb to alot of times standing right in front of the opposition and waiting for them to counter or to hit them, I specifically chose no names to show even those guys were way more advanced than the whole louis era
https://youtu.be/a27vtfAuSyI?si=3auld8tUUiYmttu3
So no I'm not saying anything video proves me right
An ex-player? It's multiple people foreman fought in the video so what are you talking about 1 man for?, And yeah Joe fought novices compared the video clearly shows they were way less advanced in angles/tech/fluidity/defense/timing
All you're doing is exposing yourself by even trying to use words to alter the video you do know that don't you,where's you're video proof to go over mine to show they were as advanced? Show the full rounds like me
as I said you cannot alter the louis era to be as advanced using words
Can you provide video to go over mine to show the 30-40s were as a yes or no?,or were they as advanced? As the 70s-90s
eras and sports mechanics, training, business advance Joe. That's a given and quite obvious. But talent and actual skillsets remain. That's why Louis contends in any era buddy :thumb:
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Originally Posted by SpicoliSeems like the goalposts keep shifting there Joe. So now it's only about older eras not being advanced. But at first it was Louis/opponents being basic and "can you imagine Joe Louis landing on Foreman or the people he fought". And that's what has been answered ;). I sure can.Quote:
Originally Posted by joe smithQuote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliCan't really dismiss entire eras with the broad brush though. Even the best of the 90's you focus on had bad showings, ko or near ko losses against much lower opposition. Lewis, Foreman, Holyfield etc. That's how boxing goes there Joe. Louis more than owned the skillset to compete in the era. Also think he ko's Moorer too. That's not me but that's what history says.Quote:
Originally Posted by joe smithI don't think anything all the guys in my video from the 70s-'90s show they were way more advanced and they would destroy the louis era, so why do you keep speaking about louis only as if he is cropped and it only shows him?, my video says era and my video shows 2 guys from each era that's 4, so my video is looking at 4 fightersQuote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliWhat you're failing at in your tunnel vision is to simply watch in your vid the angles, technic, defense, and feet of Foreman and Louis side by side. That's what actually matters. You don't really think Louis would struggle terribly with a Jimmy Ellis or honestly even a Moorer do you?Quote:
Originally Posted by joe smithQuote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliThat is Foreman fighting a hapless ex football player and motioning the ref to stop the fight yes? The same Foreman who fought 5 old retired hapless journeyman in the span of one night in Quebec to get his confidence back? But Louis fought nothing but novices right ;). Gotcha.Quote:
Originally Posted by joe smithYup it's whatever I say yet it's on video like Seek Help lunatic, while you're at it find a way to bring the fiction louis you created to life and replace the so-called clone on my videoQuote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliWhatever you say there Spammy. Foreman decimating Frazier...Louis vs Tony Galento ;). Brilliant.Quote:
Originally Posted by joe smithYou can move along trolling lunatic video clearly shows everything I said is factQuote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliOk just checking, think we've read that about 10 times or so ;D. Just so we're clear Foreman was in no way a better boxer than Joe Louis. Up until today that could go without saying though ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by joe smithMy video shows exactly how Joe and his era fought. In that video, does that version of Joe look like he or anybody else would land anything on foreman or people he fought?Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
he and guys from his time look like novices compared side by side to no names Foreman fought, and in no way does anyone from that era look like they would last 1 round vs. guys in the 70s-'90s
The video clearly shows his whole era louis fought in were novice like compared in angles/tech/fluidity/timing/defense they fought really dumb to alot of times standing right in front of the opposition and waiting for them to counter or to hit them, I specifically chose no names to show even those guys were way more advanced than the whole louis era
https://youtu.be/a27vtfAuSyI?si=3auld8tUUiYmttu3
So no I'm not saying anything video proves me right
An ex-player? It's multiple people foreman fought in the video so what are you talking about 1 man for?, And yeah Joe fought novices compared the video clearly shows they were way less advanced in angles/tech/fluidity/defense/timing
All you're doing is exposing yourself by even trying to use words to alter the video you do know that don't you,where's you're video proof to go over mine to show they were as advanced? Show the full rounds like me
as I said you cannot alter the louis era to be as advanced using words
Can you provide video to go over mine to show the 30-40s were as a yes or no?,or were they as advanced? As the 70s-90s
eras and sports mechanics, training, business advance Joe. That's a given and quite obvious. But talent and actual skillsets remain. That's why Louis contends in any era buddy :thumb:
You're crazy and can't see good
I resemble that remark! But you have a good night there Joe.Quote:
Originally Posted by joe smithQuote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliSeems like the goalposts keep shifting there Joe. So now it's only about older eras not being advanced. But at first it was Louis/opponents being basic and "can you imagine Joe Louis landing on Foreman or the people he fought". And that's what has been answered ;). I sure can.Quote:
Originally Posted by joe smithQuote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliCan't really dismiss entire eras with the broad brush though. Even the best of the 90's you focus on had bad showings, ko or near ko losses against much lower opposition. Lewis, Foreman, Holyfield etc. That's how boxing goes there Joe. Louis more than owned the skillset to compete in the era. Also think he ko's Moorer too. That's not me but that's what history says.Quote:
Originally Posted by joe smithI don't think anything all the guys in my video from the 70s-'90s show they were way more advanced and they would destroy the louis era, so why do you keep speaking about louis only as if he is cropped and it only shows him?, my video says era and my video shows 2 guys from each era that's 4, so my video is looking at 4 fightersQuote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliWhat you're failing at in your tunnel vision is to simply watch in your vid the angles, technic, defense, and feet of Foreman and Louis side by side. That's what actually matters. You don't really think Louis would struggle terribly with a Jimmy Ellis or honestly even a Moorer do you?Quote:
Originally Posted by joe smithQuote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliThat is Foreman fighting a hapless ex football player and motioning the ref to stop the fight yes? The same Foreman who fought 5 old retired hapless journeyman in the span of one night in Quebec to get his confidence back? But Louis fought nothing but novices right ;). Gotcha.Quote:
Originally Posted by joe smithYup it's whatever I say yet it's on video like Seek Help lunatic, while you're at it find a way to bring the fiction louis you created to life and replace the so-called clone on my videoQuote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliWhatever you say there Spammy. Foreman decimating Frazier...Louis vs Tony Galento ;). Brilliant.Quote:
Originally Posted by joe smithYou can move along trolling lunatic video clearly shows everything I said is factQuote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliOk just checking, think we've read that about 10 times or so ;D. Just so we're clear Foreman was in no way a better boxer than Joe Louis. Up until today that could go without saying though ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by joe smithMy video shows exactly how Joe and his era fought. In that video, does that version of Joe look like he or anybody else would land anything on foreman or people he fought?Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
he and guys from his time look like novices compared side by side to no names Foreman fought, and in no way does anyone from that era look like they would last 1 round vs. guys in the 70s-'90s
The video clearly shows his whole era louis fought in were novice like compared in angles/tech/fluidity/timing/defense they fought really dumb to alot of times standing right in front of the opposition and waiting for them to counter or to hit them, I specifically chose no names to show even those guys were way more advanced than the whole louis era
https://youtu.be/a27vtfAuSyI?si=3auld8tUUiYmttu3
So no I'm not saying anything video proves me right
An ex-player? It's multiple people foreman fought in the video so what are you talking about 1 man for?, And yeah Joe fought novices compared the video clearly shows they were way less advanced in angles/tech/fluidity/defense/timing
All you're doing is exposing yourself by even trying to use words to alter the video you do know that don't you,where's you're video proof to go over mine to show they were as advanced? Show the full rounds like me
as I said you cannot alter the louis era to be as advanced using words
Can you provide video to go over mine to show the 30-40s were as a yes or no?,or were they as advanced? As the 70s-90s
eras and sports mechanics, training, business advance Joe. That's a given and quite obvious. But talent and actual skillsets remain. That's why Louis contends in any era buddy :thumb:
You're crazy and can't see good
Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliI resemble that remark! But you have a good night there Joe.Quote:
Originally Posted by joe smithQuote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliSeems like the goalposts keep shifting there Joe. So now it's only about older eras not being advanced. But at first, it was Louis/opponents being basic and "can you imagine Joe Louis landing on Foreman or the people he fought". And that's what has been answered ;). I sure can.Quote:
Originally Posted by joe smithQuote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliCan't really dismiss entire eras with the broad brush though. Even the best of the 90's you focus on had bad showings, ko or near ko losses against much lower opposition. Lewis, Foreman, Holyfield etc. That's how boxing goes there Joe. Louis more than owned the skillset to compete in the era. Also think he ko's Moorer too. That's not me but that's what history says.Quote:
Originally Posted by joe smithI don't think anything all the guys in my video from the 70s-'90s show they were way more advanced and they would destroy the louis era, so why do you keep speaking about louis only as if he is cropped and it only shows him?, my video says era and my video shows 2 guys from each era that's 4, so my video is looking at 4 fightersQuote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliWhat you're failing at in your tunnel vision is to simply watch in your vid the angles, technic, defense, and feet of Foreman and Louis side by side. That's what actually matters. You don't really think Louis would struggle terribly with a Jimmy Ellis or honestly even a Moorer do you?Quote:
Originally Posted by joe smithQuote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliThat is Foreman fighting a hapless ex football player and motioning the ref to stop the fight yes? The same Foreman who fought 5 old retired hapless journeyman in the span of one night in Quebec to get his confidence back? But Louis fought nothing but novices right ;). Gotcha.Quote:
Originally Posted by joe smithYup it's whatever I say yet it's on video like Seek Help lunatic, while you're at it find a way to bring the fiction louis you created to life and replace the so-called clone on my videoQuote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliWhatever you say there Spammy. Foreman decimating Frazier...Louis vs Tony Galento ;). Brilliant.Quote:
Originally Posted by joe smithYou can move along trolling lunatic video clearly shows everything I said is factQuote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliOk just checking, think we've read that about 10 times or so ;D. Just so we're clear Foreman was in no way a better boxer than Joe Louis. Up until today that could go without saying though ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by joe smithMy video shows exactly how Joe and his era fought. In that video, does that version of Joe look like he or anybody else would land anything on foreman or people he fought?Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
he and guys from his time look like novices compared side by side to no names Foreman fought, and in no way does anyone from that era look like they would last 1 round vs. guys in the 70s-'90s
The video clearly shows his whole era louis fought in were novice like compared in angles/tech/fluidity/timing/defense they fought really dumb to alot of times standing right in front of the opposition and waiting for them to counter or to hit them, I specifically chose no names to show even those guys were way more advanced than the whole louis era
https://youtu.be/a27vtfAuSyI?si=3auld8tUUiYmttu3
So no I'm not saying anything video proves me right
An ex-player? It's multiple people foreman fought in the video so what are you talking about 1 man for?, And yeah Joe fought novices compared the video clearly shows they were way less advanced in angles/tech/fluidity/defense/timing
All you're doing is exposing yourself by even trying to use words to alter the video you do know that don't you,where's you're video proof to go over mine to show they were as advanced? Show the full rounds like me
as I said you cannot alter the louis era to be as advanced using words
Can you provide video to go over mine to show the 30-40s were as a yes or no?, or were they as advanced? As the 70s-90s
eras and sports mechanics, training, business advance Joe. That's a given and quite obvious. But talent and actual skillsets remain. That's why Louis contends in any era buddy :thumb:
You're crazy and can't see good
You shouldn't be too bothered by my louis on video and his era looked like novices compared to the 70s-90s, I'll keep saying that cause that's what video shows
you're version of them which I can't find on video are the exact way you said they are not novices, so yea louis from the era could compete in any era, see how we aren't even in the same reality
Asking odd questions like do i think Joe would be beat by Jim/moor when the video clearly shows Moor and the rest of the guys from the 70s-90s were way more advanced than the whole louis era, so yea I know they would destroy the whole louis era the question made no sense to ask
Serious question:
Is this just about Joe Louis? Or is it meant to carry over to other greats from the 30's, 40's, and 50's?
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Originally Posted by TitoFan
My video shows exactly how Joe and his era fought. In that video, does that version of Joe look like he or anybody else would land anything on foreman or people he fought?
he and guys from his time look like novices compared side by side to no names Foreman fought, and in no way does anyone from that era look like they would last 1 round vs. guys in the 70s-'90s
The video clearly shows his whole era were novice like compared in angles/tech/fluidity/timing/defense and they fought really dumb to alot of times standing right in front of the opposition and waiting for them to counter or to hit them, i specifically chose no names to show even those guys were way more advanced than the whole louis era
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a27vtfAuSyI&t=68s
Quote:
Originally Posted by joe smithQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
My video shows exactly how Joe and his era fought. In that video, does that version of Joe look like he or anybody else would land anything on foreman or people he fought?
he and guys from his time look like novices compared side by side to no names Foreman fought, and in no way does anyone from that era look like they would last 1 round vs. guys in the 70s-'90s
The video clearly shows his whole era were novice like compared in angles/tech/fluidity/timing/defense and they fought really dumb to alot of times standing right in front of the opposition and waiting for them to counter or to hit them, i specifically chose no names to show even those guys were way more advanced than the whole louis era
https://youtu.be/a27vtfAuSyI?si=3auld8tUUiYmttu3
Ok, I got my answer.
You literally copy-pasted what you've posted dozens of times over the last 24 hours.
You did not answer my question.
I'll have to assume you're a troll.
Carry on...