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Little bit of a head scratcher there but maybe I'm just having a slow day . And welcome to the forum Joe..

but are you saying Foreman was a better technical fighter with better timing and fluidity than Louis. To go from Foreman vs ex footballer Jimmy Ellis to Joe Frazier is a bit interesting.
​My video shows exactly how Joe and his era fought. In that video, does that version of Joe look like he or anybody else would land anything on foreman or people he fought?

he and guys from his time look like novices compared side by side to no names Foreman fought, and in no way does anyone from that era look like they would last 1 round vs. guys in the 70s-'90s

The video clearly shows his whole era louis fought in were novice like compared in angles/tech/fluidity/timing/defense they fought really dumb to alot of times standing right in front of the opposition and waiting for them to counter or to hit them, I specifically chose no names to show even those guys were way more advanced than the whole louis era

https://youtu.be/a27vtfAuSyI?si=3auld8tUUiYmttu3

So no I'm not saying anything video proves me right
Ok just checking, think we've read that about 10 times or so . Just so we're clear Foreman was in no way a better boxer than Joe Louis. Up until today that could go without saying though
You can move along trolling lunatic video clearly shows everything I said is fact
Whatever you say there Spammy. Foreman decimating Frazier...Louis vs Tony Galento . Brilliant.
Yup it's whatever I say yet it's on video like Seek Help lunatic, while you're at it find a way to bring the fiction louis you created to life and replace the so-called clone on my video
That is Foreman fighting a hapless ex football player and motioning the ref to stop the fight yes? The same Foreman who fought 5 old retired hapless journeyman in the span of one night in Quebec to get his confidence back? But Louis fought nothing but novices right . Gotcha.

An ex-player? It's multiple people foreman fought in the video so what are you talking about 1 man for?, And yeah Joe fought novices compared the video clearly shows they were way less advanced in angles/tech/fluidity/defense/timing

All you're doing is exposing yourself by even trying to use words to alter the video you do know that don't you,where's you're video proof to go over mine to show they were as advanced? Show the full rounds like me
What you're failing at in your tunnel vision is to simply watch in your vid the angles, technic, defense, and feet of Foreman and Louis side by side. That's what actually matters. You don't really think Louis would struggle terribly with a Jimmy Ellis or honestly even a Moorer do you?
I don't think anything all the guys in my video from the 70s-'90s show they were way more advanced and they would destroy the louis era, so why do you keep speaking about louis only as if he is cropped and it only shows him?, my video says era and my video shows 2 guys from each era that's 4, so my video is looking at 4 fighters

as I said you cannot alter the louis era to be as advanced using words
Can't really dismiss entire eras with the broad brush though. Even the best of the 90's you focus on had bad showings, ko or near ko losses against much lower opposition. Lewis, Foreman, Holyfield etc. That's how boxing goes there Joe. Louis more than owned the skillset to compete in the era. Also think he ko's Moorer too. That's not me but that's what history says.

Can you provide video to go over mine to show the 30-40s were as a yes or no?,or were they as advanced? As the 70s-90s
Seems like the goalposts keep shifting there Joe. So now it's only about older eras not being advanced. But at first it was Louis/opponents being basic and "can you imagine Joe Louis landing on Foreman or the people he fought". And that's what has been answered . I sure can.

eras and sports mechanics, training, business advance Joe. That's a given and quite obvious. But talent and actual skillsets remain. That's why Louis contends in any era buddy