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Ok, so you people know I always strive to become a better student of the game and was wondering if you could fill me in. I am in the process of acquiring a few of his fights now and I know he had an awesome record,but what else made him so great? Who did he have good fights with and where is he on the all time lists?
Finito Lopez was in my mind one of the best fighters I have ever seen.
His technique was flawless, he was quick, he was strong and his ring generalship was second to none. He would have been a mega star if he only weighed 20 more pounds. His posture when he approached another fighter was perfect. More importantly, he had the will to win.
My favorite fight was Alvarez-Lopez II only because by that time Ricardo was old not quite out but old and Alvarez was young and strong as an ox. Finito showed a champion's heart and prevailed. Good stuff
defensively, Lopez was at the top of his game as well. A true great, a master boxer, KO power in both hands.
CC for filling me in Mad_Dog, I definitely will get hold of that fight! Sounds like you have a high opinion of him,was he in the P4P lists in his day and who would have great matches with him now?
bro Finito is not just on the p4p list in his day. He is a legend. P4P candidate period. As a matter of fact, of all the Mexican greats, I would argue that he, Salvador Sanchez and Julio Cesar Chavez are in the top three.
I would have loved to see an Arce fight Lopez. I can not say enough how technically sound Lopez was.
Yeah he's perhaps the best technical boxer of all time, really.. He didn't have the phenominal talent of a Roy Jones or even Mayweather, but he made up for it 100% with pure skill. He is like a more orthodox Pernell Whittaker, at least defensively equal, but total opposite styles, he wasn't nearly as much relient on his reflexes he was just technically flawless. Another thing that makes him great is that he truly went out on top, his last fight was a brilliant performance and he showed he still had masterful skills, then retired gracefully. He never got the recognition he deserved just because of his weight, simple as that. He also fought in a very good age for boxing, so there were plenty of stars at the higher weights to steal the spotlight.. Jones, De la Hoya, Tito nas barerra, not to mention the HWs were good. I really don't know if he ever got the p4p recognition he deserved in terms of rankins during his peak.. But he was undoubtedly as good as anyone at his best.
very smooth, just technically almost perfect, had all the punches, but I loved his uppercuts when a guy was pressuring him
Woah,ok not many reply's but he sounds AWESOME!!! I just got tow of his fights,one with Hideyuki something and another fight,and I have to say, I am pretty darn excited!!!! Which weight class was he? Would you guys say he is in top 20 fighters EVER? Cool Clicks all around for replying,you guys know you stuff!! I'm on my way to joining you!!!
top 20?
hard to say there have been many many great ones. I am never good at ranking people BUT
I have been watching boxing for a long long time now. I even have tapes of the classics. Whenever I think of the best that I have seen, he certainly comes to mind. An incredible fighter. As far as his weight Lopez was a flyweight.
I think he would have taken Arce apart IMO. Arce right now is one of the top fighters in the flyweight division.
I am telling you game that he was one of the most brilliant fighters I have ever seen.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Game
IMO Lopez is to date the greatest BOXER that Mexico has ever had, fighter would go to Chavez, but in the skill department it's Lopez hands down
I only seen him on the Chavez Gonzales undercard, and he didn't impress me. But I'm guessing that wasn't his best hour ;)
yea yet you're completely impressed by the bum that is Zab Judah ???...........that says it all right there ;D
Nice 8)Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
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People have told me that they have never seen a perfect boxer BUT "Finito" Lopez was probably the closest to perfection as we might ever see in the ring....I second that :) the guy was ahead of his time and was just magnificent in the ring as far as watching a boxer break down an opponent there was JCC, "Finito" & Arguello. JCC was the pressure guy who came at you and broke you down like that, "Finito" was the technician and would hit 3 times without you touching him would pick his shots and break you down like that, "El Flaco Explosivo" was just amazing with that long reach and counter punching he would set you up for at least 2 maybe even 3 rds. and then Boom lights out.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Game
Watch him vs. Yun Lee, Melchor, Guardia, Tabanas,Sanchez, Alvarez II :)
You better watch who you're talking to ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
You may make me taint his mind with the Rosendo Alvarez which is the fight I saw. You want to bring up controversy, you want to bring up an ass kicking, you want to bring up an undefeated fighter deserving to lose and getting out by the skin of his teeth when the world knows he lost. You don't look at Zab Judah Floyd Mayweather... you look at Ricardo Lopez vs. Rosendo Alvarez which is the fight I saw. ;) Only fight I've seen of him.
He was a good fighter Starr, and maybe Alvarez beat him that time, although it was a draw, but he came back to beat Alvarez in the rematch, and Alvarez was very good in his prime at that weight, and Finito overall had no losses.
You should check him out more than just that one fight, you'd like him, very technically sound, good boxer.
Great fighter. Should IMO, be considered an all-time great for sure.
When Roy Jones Jr. was in his prime, and p4p #1, I heard him say in an interview that, Finito should be the p4p champ, because he was the best boxer on the planet.
I would love to, but I truely had never even heard true noise of him up until that Alvarez fight. I had heard about him a lot but never seen him and had all these expectations that he was the next this and already a this, and then I saw the Rosendo Alvarez fight on the Chavez Gonzalez card, and I felt let down, i'd love to see him in his prime(but I thought the Alvarez fight was his prime) what happened?
It was strange, He always seemed disciplined but he came into the fight overweight and had to give up his belt on the scales and didn't have a good night. Alvarez was good though back then but Lopez won the rematch 8-4 IMO.
do u guyz think he ranks higher than erik morales P4P. coz he and erik have mad beef.
He was one of those guys you could always count on for a win. He had a long prime from like 91-97 . He usually made easy work of his opponents but he fought Alvarez when he was undefeated and he wasnt a bad fighter at all. Both were close fights but i thought Lopez won both. He is one of the only long reigning champions to retire undefeated. Truly an ATG. Too bad the minimumweight division has never been very popular cause he was a graet fighter and has some great fights
IMO he was a better boxer, no doubt better technically IMO, but because of his weight he wasn't able to fight the noticeable opposition that Erik did so he probably won't go down as high as Erik on most people's listsQuote:
Originally Posted by chamiley
Oumafan,
is it true that Ricardo Lopez started his career as a flyweight at the age of 13 and fought many times and lost many times and retired in 1984 because of his age http://boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=86899 but would turn pro again in 1985 with a 0-0 record and a new weight class(but keeping his old nickname) and that is what we know as Ricardo Lopez of today http://boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=521 ?
no idea, it doesn't seem likely that a guy as slick as him could get beat and knocked out that much but I have no idea
I would say no just because the guy who lost all those fights started in 1979 and the good Finito was only 13 in 1979
Not to mention he was going up against future world champions in his first few pro fights. That incredible that he was even in the ring with those guys
That would explain it if that is truely him at 13
Cool Clicks all around again, this guy sounds phenomenal!!!! Going to watch him for the first time later to today!!! I mean, this may sound silly but did he ever have a weakness????
Cool Click! Oh and why did EM not like him????Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
Ricardo Lopez never lost as an amateur nor did he lose as a pro. He had one draw and that was when Lopez was 34,35 and against a guy that is still fighting at a world class level. That irst fight wa the worst of Lopez's career,and I saw at least a dozen before that one and have since acquired tapes of 7 or 8 more. He fought Sorjaturong,who tkod Chiquita Gonzalez and kod himin 2 rounds.
Chavez was considered among the top 3 p4p, if not the best, for years and all along he said that, wts being equal, Lopez would've kod him. The only clean punch I recall Lopez taking was the right by Alvarez that floored him, and he absolutely destroyed over a dozen southpaws, 7 in title defenses. He could fight inside or stick andmove and he had ko power in every punch.
For my $ the best fighter in the last 30, 40 years.
yea I heard roy say the same thingQuote:
Originally Posted by Unknowndonor
finito's draw was based on a cut. A cut was open and it went to the cards. Rosendo was amazing back then. He had a jaw of steel and was the Tyson of the flyweight division. Finito was in my mind at that point of his career on his way down. Not by much but certainly he was older. Alvarez-Lopez I, was a draw. The second fight fight however, really showed FInito's skill and guts. He took it to Rosendo and won a brutal fight.
Rosendo Alvarez just fought Arce last weekend. He is now 36 and if you think about it, he was tough as an ox still. Arce beat him with a body shot but that just cause he was old and could no longer fight. If you remember the first rounds however, you got a glimpse of a young Alvarez, tough as nails and he could walk through people's punches.
watch the second fight starr you will see, the greatness and no by the time he fought Alvarez he was no longer in his prime.Quote:
Originally Posted by OumaFan
that is a different guy that you are talking about.Quote:
Originally Posted by Starr
absolutely I really saw no weakness.....he was the best fighter I have seenQuote:
Originally Posted by greynotsoold
http://www.cyberboxingzone.com/boxing/w0403-sc.html
check this link out. It kind of encapsulates his career
He was 37-1 as an amateurQuote:
Originally Posted by greynotsoold
Thanks for the link Mad_Dog,cc. I sthave not had time to watch the fight,hopefully later, I'm supposed to be doing work now!!! :P