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So that’s the message boxing is sending out?
You cheat in the most dangerous way and you only get a year ban?
The casuals will always defend the drug cheats like Canelo,Fury,Garcia and Miller.
Haney will surely remain undefeated.
It’s time we reverse ALL the historical drug fights and correct each resume.
Who wants to defend Garcia?
Nobody can defend it. Garcia is not bothered either.
Banning for life would send these cheats a true message.
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While I agree with the whole post, this is the kicker right here. Garcia is not bothered. From the start, this kid has been more interested in his social media throng than in the grind that a true boxing career requires. The casuals eat his shit up, because well... because they're casuals. His undeserved fame skyrocketed off one good fight... and since then it's been a circus of strange Tweets and postings, missing weight, strange behavior, mental breakdowns, attention-whoring, PED use, and now saying he's retiring... which honestly no true fan gives a flying one. Some casuals even laughingly at some point claimed he was the face of boxing. Garcia is definitely not bothered. To us real fans, when he's finally gone he won't be missed.
whenever king ry decides to return after his suspension he'll walk straight into a huge pay per view
And you approve of that, because he's one of your favorite fighters.
It's ok. Nothing to be ashamed of. Pretty much fits the profile of fighters you like.
where did i say i approve of it? sounds like you're speaking for me. is my statement in my last post wrong?Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
Cheating twat. Suliman now wrapping his "everyone is a victim" hug and excuse on him now. Top guys sit out for a year plus so no effect there. And he tossed more $ at the missing weight than he did actual ped suspension. Again, they all factor the penalties in now. And the alphabet boyz abide. Short-bus will social media troll for 10 months and come back as a Jr middle. Bank it.
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This, and what you said about Ginger fighting Berlanga as part of his "Riding Off Into The Sunset" tour, seem like they might be pretty accurate.
I wouldn't suggest you get into the fortune telling business yet... but if this one pans out... I would definitely start looking in Amazon for crystal balls.
His mother should have let him be a fighter and earn it, in retrospect. Making him a social media 'celebrity' before he had 10 fights made him some money, a big chunk of which will go to child support cause he has a bunch of them. And it made him a pathetic, attention seeking buffoon. If he doesn't have boxing as a vehicle to make a spectacle of himself, I shudder to think of what he might do next.Quote:
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Been looking for a second gig so I may give to filling the Mrs. Cleo void ;D. These guys have just become too predictable. Then again who knows, they may just form a bond entering retirement and open a steakhouse.Quote:
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Originally Posted by Spicoli
This, and what you said about Ginger fighting Berlanga as part of his "Riding Off Into The Sunset" tour, seem like they might be pretty accurate.
I wouldn't suggest you get into the fortune telling business yet... but if this one pans out... I would definitely start looking in Amazon for crystal balls.
Does make you wonder a bit where he fits as far as the new norm in young fighters. Used to be that ring success would grow/make the star and we'd see cases of fighters getting overwhelmed with it and spiraling down. Ryan pretty much put the cart before the horse as far as popularity and social media rise. Brought that into buys and sales, but hardly has the mentality and skill set of a tried true top tier champion. Unfortunately, there's a massive wave of newer fans who embraces cutting corners and the adolescent fuckery Ryan has proven to be all about.Quote:
Originally Posted by greynotsooldHis mother should have let him be a fighter and earn it, in retrospect. Making him a social media 'celebrity' before he had 10 fights made him some money, a big chunk of which will go to child support cause he has a bunch of them. And it made him a pathetic, attention seeking buffoon. If he doesn't have boxing as a vehicle to make a spectacle of himself, I shudder to think of what he might do next.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
there has always been fighters who are more popular than their actual success or performances as professionals deserves. panchito bojado was given a huge signing bonus & was being talked about as the next big thing, he didn't have the social media powerhouse that it is today at the time i don't think but jack paul is another recent guy who has a big following based on not much achieved in the pro ranks. it's nothing new. then you have deserving guys like finito lopez who no one even knows outside hardcore boxing heads
As far as social media influence and career design for Ryan, have to say it's fairly new hence the mention and popularity early for Ryan. Paul unfortunately another but credit to Ryan as he's slightly more serious with fights taken. Paul is a literal cartoon act. But Ryan is deluded now. It becomes an enabling crutch. Making Devin Haney fart jokes and ranting about screwing Caleb Plants wife are the biggest W's he'll have for the rest of the year. Rolly Romero is another bottom feeder that blew up more for social media saturation than actual ring accomplishments.Quote:
Originally Posted by TIC
Panchito is more of the old school model of top Olympians riding the hype waves and just not panning out once on the world stage. Lots of threads on him https://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfo...appened-2.html. The spiral down of early anointment of super stardom, top amateur success turned into busted hype-train for some young prospects/Olympians in boxing is decade olds. No social media as we know for Bojado but maybe a bit on his half attempt comeback with Golden boy. The Olympics had a great avenue before the SM blow up. The major networks and promotions had tunnel vision for "the next" superstars and "the next" superstars didn't have the 24/7 defection distractions at the fingertips. Ryan won't be the last sadly.
Devin Haney has announced his intention to take further legal action against Ryan Garcia.
Garcia floored Haney three times and beat him by unanimous decision on April 20, however this result has now been overturned.
The victor tested positive for banned PED ostarine in three separate drugs tests taken around the fight.
On Thursday, he agreed a settlement with the New York Commission over the situation.
Garcia has received a one-year ban from boxing as a result of this, with the Haney fight being overturned from a win to a no-contest.
Haney's undefeated 31-0 record has officially been restored, however he is not completely happy with the outcome.
Earlier this week, the WBC held a purse bids auction for Haney's potential next fight - an ordered mandatory defence against Sandor Martin.
Bob Arum's Top Rank were the only bidders and won with a bid of just $2.42million, meaning Haney will get $1.53million if he moves forward with this bout next.
That is a significant reduction from what he earned not only in the Garcia fight, but in several of his fights before it took place.
As a result, Haney is now arguing that his commercial value and potential future earnings have taken a dramatic hit as a direct result of Garcia's controversial overturned victory in their fight.
“My lawyers will do what they've gotta do to prove that in court against Ryan," Haney told Title Sports Network.
"We will take legal action because it has affected me - not only financially, but mentally and everything."
Haney also alleges that he has suffered mentally from the fallout.
Upon seeing these quotes, Garcia took to social media to attack Haney once again.
He tweeted on Friday night: "There is no damn way, no I’m being sued for hurting Devil Haney feelings. Softest man ever created this crazy don’t know Bill Haney's sperm was like this."
Haney replied: "We can settle out of court.. what u offering?"
Time will tell if the pair end up having a rematch in the ring or the courtroom.
https://talksport.com/sport/1932375/...-legal-action/
There was never any money in the Sandor Martin fight :-\
I saw Garcia playing poker
He is a very annoying person :(
If your last name is Garcia or Alvarez and you get caught cheating taking PEDS expect a 6-12 month ban.
It now actually seems worth taking PEDS for the big money fights.
There is zero deterrent anymore.
I would have loved to have given props to Ryan for beating Haney but he has potentially ruined his career with this tainted win.
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Spot on with all points.
Can't say I share on the last paragraph, cause I was actually hoping Haney would knock him out. But other than that I agree on all counts.
Caught some of that and literally acting like the antsy toddler at the adults dinner table. Couple of players looked perturbed with the antics but that could just be the knowledge of a known unapologetic cheat sitting next to you with high stakes on the line. Also joked about it earlier but he looks to be bordering on small middleweight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Big J
It’s going to be a very long span of spiraling down.
i think it's worse if a guy is caught & is allowed to fight. the commissions are to blame & the promoters for booking them to fight. you are right there is zero deterrent. they may have given devin back his zero but they can't erase him getting splattered all over the ringQuote:
Originally Posted by imp
Garcia totally outclassed him
There’s no way of knowing if Garcia would have ever beaten Haney in the pro ranks.
PED enhanced his hook, chin and stamina.
Haney not continuing with his career and fighting Martin reflects the mental trauma.
Expect another payout when Haneys lawyers sue Garcia for loss of earnings.
You know you've hit full blazing train wreck when even the wbc expels you. Garcia is the art and perfection of torpedoing your own career. Not just ring career. Well beyond the point of 'ah he just selling the fight' delusional nonsense. It really is a slow-motion car crash on a 24-7 loop.
Ryan Garcia has been "expelled" by the WBC after using racial slurs and Islamophobic language on social media.
The American, who last month was banned for a year from boxing following an anti-doping violation, made the comments on X's spaces platform, which allows people to have live audio conversations.
WBC president Mauricio Sulaiman said in a statement: "Exercising my authority as president of the WBC, I am hereby expelling Ryan Garcia from any activity with our organisation.
"We reject any form of discrimination."
In a since deleted post on X, Garcia, 25, wrote: "I was trolling, I want all the killing to stop. I love everyone, sorry if I offended you."
The American has not responded to the WBC's expulsion.
After Garcia was handed a one-year doping ban by the New York State Athletic Commission, Sulaiman said the WBC would not issue its own suspension or "punish" him because of concerns about his mental health.
It was not immediately clear what the expulsion from the WBC would entail. BBC Sport has asked the WBC for comment.
Garcia failed multiple drug tests around his fight with Devin Haney in April.
As well as a one-year ban, Garcia's upset victory over former undisputed lightweight champion Haney was overturned to a no-contest.
Garcia's family released its own statement saying his comments "do not align with his, or our family's, true character or beliefs".
"Our family unequivocally does not support any statements [Garcia] has made regarding race or religion -- these do not reflect who Ryan truly is and how he was raised," the statement added.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/a...s/c1dm5d73rnlo
So is it safe to say PrincessRy is no longer the "Face of Boxing"? :D
Sad and Pathetic figure. I honestly don’t think that a guy who is as mentally deranged as he is lives to see 40.
just the usual pandering from the wbc. when ryan comes back i think the wbc will be ready to stick their grabby little fingers back in the pieQuote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
Probably feel slighted he shunned being their next Charlo crutch-case. At this point I really do doubt the future return. He has yet to hit bottom, at least one he'll acknowledge. Remember those old film reels of a plane being shot down? Flames trailing pieces sparking off, the whirl sound into a downward spiral. There he is.Quote:
Originally Posted by TICjust the usual pandering from the wbc. when ryan comes back i think the wbc will be ready to stick their grabby little fingers back in the pieQuote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
A brazen, audacious youngster, with tremendous talent, he should be given a couple years suspension and then at 25 or so to be given another chance.
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Originally Posted by SpicoliProbably feel slighted he shunned being their next Charlo crutch-case. At this point I really do doubt the future return. He has yet to hit bottom, at least one he'll acknowledge. Remember those old film reels of a plane being shot down? Flames trailing pieces sparking off, the whirl sound into a downward spiral. There he is.Quote:
Originally Posted by TICjust the usual pandering from the wbc. when ryan comes back i think the wbc will be ready to stick their grabby little fingers back in the pieQuote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
He's done in boxing. But with his baby-faced good looks and his social media throngs, he ought to be able to find a niche somewhere else.
I'd get some serious professional help first, though.
Ryan, who is currently undergoing rehabilitation for alcohol issues and serving a year-long ban for PED abuse, also humorously addressed his new responsibilities on his X handle.
"Sean may have taken an L. But here's the great news about that," Garcia said.
"I wasn't in his corner. The Vargas brothers, they are 1-0 on us. It's okay. We're gonna call for the rematch. And I'm the head trainer. Amado, what's good?"
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Originally Posted by TICjust the usual pandering from the wbc. when ryan comes back i think the wbc will be ready to stick their grabby little fingers back in the pieQuote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
He's done in boxing.
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Originally Posted by SpicoliProbably feel slighted he shunned being their next Charlo crutch-case. At this point I really do doubt the future return. He has yet to hit bottom, at least one he'll acknowledge. Remember those old film reels of a plane being shot down? Flames trailing pieces sparking off, the whirl sound into a downward spiral. There he is.Quote:
Originally Posted by TICjust the usual pandering from the wbc. when ryan comes back i think the wbc will be ready to stick their grabby little fingers back in the pieQuote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
He's done in boxing.
Won't amount to anything. He's undisciplined, and has serious emotional issues. Also suffers from that common modern malady: "Instant Gratification"
will definitely be back look for about 2026
Is that one of your predictions? :D
If so, the kid is doomed for sure.
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Originally Posted by TIChe'll be backQuote:
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Originally Posted by SpicoliProbably feel slighted he shunned being their next Charlo crutch-case. At this point I really do doubt the future return. He has yet to hit bottom, at least one he'll acknowledge. Remember those old film reels of a plane being shot down? Flames trailing pieces sparking off, the whirl sound into a downward spiral. There he is.Quote:
Originally Posted by TICjust the usual pandering from the wbc. when ryan comes back i think the wbc will be ready to stick their grabby little fingers back in the pieQuote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
He's done in boxing.
Won't amount to anything.
he'll be back mid to late next yearQuote:
Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell
unless he comes back as ClownRyQuote:
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Originally Posted by TIChe'll be backQuote:
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Originally Posted by SpicoliProbably feel slighted he shunned being their next Charlo crutch-case. At this point I really do doubt the future return. He has yet to hit bottom, at least one he'll acknowledge. Remember those old film reels of a plane being shot down? Flames trailing pieces sparking off, the whirl sound into a downward spiral. There he is.Quote:
Originally Posted by TICjust the usual pandering from the wbc. when ryan comes back i think the wbc will be ready to stick their grabby little fingers back in the pieQuote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
He's done in boxing.
Won't amount to anything.
Ryan Garcia is a very young man with a very bright future. He will bounce back from this and he will go on to do great things in boxing.