For Those who wonder why Bhop is still so highly p4p ranked.

[Tito BHB]

ESPN.com currently ranks Hopkins fifth and Pavlik sixth, and the winner could easily climb into the top three. Fights between fellow pound-for-pounders don't happen every day (even though this will be the third such fight for Hopkins in a 15-month span, incredibly enough), and it'll be exciting to know when the bell rings that two truly elite practitioners are going at it.

Thats taken from an espn article.. and on thinking about it.. its true.

it never happens where guys at the top level and are highly p4p ranked meet.. but to have three in a row.. and having beaten tarver as a big underdog previous to that is some great match making from bernard..

Cant disagree too much with that folks

[Shroomy]

ESPN.com currently ranks Hopkins fifth and Pavlik sixth, and the winner could easily climb into the top three. Fights between fellow pound-for-pounders don't happen every day (even though this will be the third such fight for Hopkins in a 15-month span, incredibly enough), and it'll be exciting to know when the bell rings that two truly elite practitioners are going at it.

Thats taken from an espn article.. and on thinking about it.. its true.

it never happens where guys at the top level and are highly p4p ranked meet.. but to have three in a row.. and having beaten tarver as a big underdog previous to that is some great match making from bernard..

Cant disagree too much with that folks

Yes you can

because you say its bernards 3rd fight with someone in the top 10

right well if he wasnt in it wouldnt be, and he shouldnt be in there these days.

So you can disagree with it.

And when pavlik beats him, then Bernard should be nowhere near it, there are better guys that should be in there than him

and he is not top level anymore, he is just someone who runs off allnight, headbutts, and goes down wasting time like a cheat.

[piye]

Hopkins is pound 4 pound that's why he gave Calzhage his closest fight regardless of the dirty tactics used. And the only thing that will win this fight for Pavlik is his work rate saying that considering the how close the Calzhage fight was and how much higher Calzhage's work rate usually is I expect the Hopkins Pavlik fight to be extremely close.

[Taeth]

ESPN.com currently ranks Hopkins fifth and Pavlik sixth, and the winner could easily climb into the top three. Fights between fellow pound-for-pounders don't happen every day (even though this will be the third such fight for Hopkins in a 15-month span, incredibly enough), and it'll be exciting to know when the bell rings that two truly elite practitioners are going at it.

Thats taken from an espn article.. and on thinking about it.. its true.

it never happens where guys at the top level and are highly p4p ranked meet.. but to have three in a row.. and having beaten tarver as a big underdog previous to that is some great match making from bernard..

Cant disagree too much with that folks

Yes you can

because you say its bernards 3rd fight with someone in the top 10

right well if he wasnt in it wouldnt be, and he shouldnt be in there these days.

So you can disagree with it.

And when pavlik beats him, then Bernard should be nowhere near it, there are better guys that should be in there than him

and he is not top level anymore, he is just someone who runs off allnight, headbutts, and goes down wasting time like a cheat.

LOL who says Pavlik is automatically going to win? THats a stupid assumption to make.

How can you say he isn't on the top level, He fought a close fight with Calzaghe(#2 p4p) and I feel he won that fight because he was landing the better shots. he beat Winky Wright(who wasi n hte top 5 p4p when they fought). He beat Tarver at LHW who is faster, and hits harder than Pavlik. You say there

[Plopeater]

Hopkins is still good , but his best days are behind him, is his p4p ranking too high. Its debatable as he didn't do too bad against Joe.

I see Pavlik beating him, but I also think Bernard has a good chance of KO'ing Pavlik

[Bx730NY]

Hopkins is pound 4 pound that's why he gave Calzhage his closest fight regardless of the dirty tactics used. And the only thing that will win this fight for Pavlik is his work rate saying that considering the how close the Calzhage fight was and how much higher Calzhage's work rate usually is I expect the Hopkins Pavlik fight to be extremely close.

That doesn't make sense. You say despite the dirty tactics but trust me, if not for that, he would have been dominated even more so.

And if the ref does his job when he fights Pavlik, he's gonna have back to back losses to white boys. lol

[ssss]

Hopkins is pound 4 pound that's why he gave Calzhage his closest fight regardless of the dirty tactics used. And the only thing that will win this fight for Pavlik is his work rate saying that considering the how close the Calzhage fight was and how much higher Calzhage's work rate usually is I expect the Hopkins Pavlik fight to be extremely close.

Robin Reid gave Joe Calzaghe his closest fight.

[Taeth]

Bxwhatever, and SS... you guys are so full of it. Calzaghe didn't dominate Hopkins at all, and Hopkins didn't use all that many cheap tactics except a few punches on the hips, and that low blow recovery. If any fighter reacts that way to a low blow the ref will give them time. It would be retarded for a ref not to because they don't know how it felt(even though that was bs in the fight).

Anyone saying Robin Reid gave Calzaghe his closest fight is stupid. Plain and simple, if you've watched boxing since the Calzaghe-Reid fight, and still don't know that the Bhop-Calzaghe fight was way closer then you should stop watching boxing because you have learned nothing about boxing. Missing poorly thrown punches/slaps doesn't win rounds unless people hump your leg or they don't know the sport.

[Tito BHB]

ESPN.com currently ranks Hopkins fifth and Pavlik sixth, and the winner could easily climb into the top three. Fights between fellow pound-for-pounders don't happen every day (even though this will be the third such fight for Hopkins in a 15-month span, incredibly enough), and it'll be exciting to know when the bell rings that two truly elite practitioners are going at it.

Thats taken from an espn article.. and on thinking about it.. its true.

it never happens where guys at the top level and are highly p4p ranked meet.. but to have three in a row.. and having beaten tarver as a big underdog previous to that is some great match making from bernard..

Cant disagree too much with that folks

Yes you can

because you say its bernards 3rd fight with someone in the top 10

right well if he wasnt in it wouldnt be, and he shouldnt be in there these days.

So you can disagree with it.

And when pavlik beats him, then Bernard should be nowhere near it, there are better guys that should be in there than him

and he is not top level anymore, he is just someone who runs off allnight, headbutts, and goes down wasting time like a cheat.

Lol.. Shock horror.. your disagreeing with me..

With yet more invalid points..

It doesnt matter if you think he was in it or should have been in it..

Because undoubtably at the time he took the following fights these were top p4p and dangerous guys.. and it was great match making.

Tarver - Just beat jones and johnson, bhop come off two close losses to jermain - Huge underdog.. Bhop puts on a masterclass.

Winky Wright - Undoubtedly P4P number 3 at the time.

Joe Calzaghe - Undefeated P4P rated.. Probably between 5 and 9 at the time..

strait on to pavlik.. who at present has to be top five easily.

and you talk about bernard bieng nowhere near it once pavlik beats him..

but what happened against joe.. Controversial decision loss, hardly bumped him any places in the top ten.. because bhop is still hanging with and in my opinion beating the rest of the people ranked p4p..

which like was said p4p ranked fighters rarely fight one another.. let alone 3 in a row.. maybe four. but bernard has been making them happen.. doing catch weights.. makes perfect business sense and it will pay off when it comes to his legacy

[Shroomy]

ESPN.com currently ranks Hopkins fifth and Pavlik sixth, and the winner could easily climb into the top three. Fights between fellow pound-for-pounders don't happen every day (even though this will be the third such fight for Hopkins in a 15-month span, incredibly enough), and it'll be exciting to know when the bell rings that two truly elite practitioners are going at it.

Thats taken from an espn article.. and on thinking about it.. its true.

it never happens where guys at the top level and are highly p4p ranked meet.. but to have three in a row.. and having beaten tarver as a big underdog previous to that is some great match making from bernard..

Cant disagree too much with that folks

Yes you can

because you say its bernards 3rd fight with someone in the top 10

right well if he wasnt in it wouldnt be, and he shouldnt be in there these days.

So you can disagree with it.

And when pavlik beats him, then Bernard should be nowhere near it, there are better guys that should be in there than him

and he is not top level anymore, he is just someone who runs off allnight, headbutts, and goes down wasting time like a cheat.

Lol.. Shock horror.. your disagreeing with me..

With yet more invalid points..

It doesnt matter if you think he was in it or should have been in it..

Because undoubtably at the time he took the following fights these were top p4p and dangerous guys.. and it was great match making.

Tarver - Just beat jones and johnson, bhop come off two close losses to jermain - Huge underdog.. Bhop puts on a masterclass.

Winky Wright - Undoubtedly P4P number 3 at the time.

Joe Calzaghe - Undefeated P4P rated.. Probably between 5 and 9 at the time..

strait on to pavlik.. who at present has to be top five easily.

and you talk about bernard bieng nowhere near it once pavlik beats him..

but what happened against joe.. Controversial decision loss, hardly bumped him any places in the top ten.. because bhop is still hanging with and in my opinion beating the rest of the people ranked p4p..

which like was said p4p ranked fighters rarely fight one another.. let alone 3 in a row.. maybe four. but bernard has been making them happen.. doing catch weights.. makes perfect business sense and it will pay off when it comes to his legacy

im not disagreeing with you cuz its you, if that was the case i would be hammering you with those neg reps or whatever BUT I DONT

i just agree with what you saID IN THIS THREAD

[Tito BHB]

Yes you can

because you say its bernards 3rd fight with someone in the top 10

right well if he wasnt in it wouldnt be, and he shouldnt be in there these days.

So you can disagree with it.

And when pavlik beats him, then Bernard should be nowhere near it, there are better guys that should be in there than him

and he is not top level anymore, he is just someone who runs off allnight, headbutts, and goes down wasting time like a cheat.

Lol.. Shock horror.. your disagreeing with me..

With yet more invalid points..

It doesnt matter if you think he was in it or should have been in it..

Because undoubtably at the time he took the following fights these were top p4p and dangerous guys.. and it was great match making.

Tarver - Just beat jones and johnson, bhop come off two close losses to jermain - Huge underdog.. Bhop puts on a masterclass.

Winky Wright - Undoubtedly P4P number 3 at the time.

Joe Calzaghe - Undefeated P4P rated.. Probably between 5 and 9 at the time..

strait on to pavlik.. who at present has to be top five easily.

and you talk about bernard bieng nowhere near it once pavlik beats him..

but what happened against joe.. Controversial decision loss, hardly bumped him any places in the top ten.. because bhop is still hanging with and in my opinion beating the rest of the people ranked p4p..

which like was said p4p ranked fighters rarely fight one another.. let alone 3 in a row.. maybe four. but bernard has been making them happen.. doing catch weights.. makes perfect business sense and it will pay off when it comes to his legacy

im not disagreeing with you cuz its you, if that was the case i would be hammering you with those neg reps or whatever BUT I DONT

i just agree with what you saID IN THIS THREAD

Fair enough.. your entitled to your opinion..

And i dont fuck with Neg reps.. Its a bit immature for my liking i keep it in the thread and argue my point..

Hopkins for president '08

[Bx730NY]

Bxwhatever, and SS... you guys are so full of it. Calzaghe didn't dominate Hopkins at all, and Hopkins didn't use all that many cheap tactics except a few punches on the hips, and that low blow recovery. If any fighter reacts that way to a low blow the ref will give them time. It would be retarded for a ref not to because they don't know how it felt(even though that was bs in the fight).

Anyone saying Robin Reid gave Calzaghe his closest fight is stupid. Plain and simple, if you've watched boxing since the Calzaghe-Reid fight, and still don't know that the Bhop-Calzaghe fight was way closer then you should stop watching boxing because you have learned nothing about boxing. Missing poorly thrown punches/slaps doesn't win rounds unless people hump your leg or they don't know the sport.

You must be talking about a different fight. I'm gonna rewatch and take notes and tell you of each dirty move he did. Watch for the thread

[Shroomy]

Bxwhatever, and SS... you guys are so full of it. Calzaghe didn't dominate Hopkins at all, and Hopkins didn't use all that many cheap tactics except a few punches on the hips, and that low blow recovery. If any fighter reacts that way to a low blow the ref will give them time. It would be retarded for a ref not to because they don't know how it felt(even though that was bs in the fight).

Anyone saying Robin Reid gave Calzaghe his closest fight is stupid. Plain and simple, if you've watched boxing since the Calzaghe-Reid fight, and still don't know that the Bhop-Calzaghe fight was way closer then you should stop watching boxing because you have learned nothing about boxing. Missing poorly thrown punches/slaps doesn't win rounds unless people hump your leg or they don't know the sport.

You must be talking about a different fight. I'm gonna rewatch and take notes and tell you of each dirty move he did. Watch for the thread

good!