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    Default Celestino "THE TOWERING INFERNO" Caballero cracks Ring Mag's P4P List

    1. Manny Pacquiao
    2. JM Marquez
    3. Calzaghe
    4. Hopkins
    5. Israel Vazquez
    6. Mosley
    7. Rafael Marquez
    8. Ivan Calderon
    9. Hatton
    10. Celestino "THE TOWERING INFERNO" Caballero

    Hope Caballero can land a fight with no. 5 Izzy or no. 7 Rafa... 122 is a very hot division ...
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    Default Re: Celestino "THE TOWERING INFERNO" Caballero cracks Ring Mag's P4P List

    Quote Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer View Post
    1. Manny Pacquiao
    2. JM Marquez
    3. Calzaghe
    4. Hopkins
    5. Israel Vazquez
    6. Mosley
    7. Rafael Marquez
    8. Ivan Calderon
    9. Hatton
    10. Celestino "THE TOWERING INFERNO" Caballero

    Hope Caballero can land a fight with no. 5 Izzy or no. 7 Rafa... 122 is a very hot division ...
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    Look at Mosley coming in at #6!! I find it odd that Caballero is entered now and not directly after beating Molitor, grats to him though.
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    Default Re: Celestino "THE TOWERING INFERNO" Caballero cracks Ring Mag's P4P List

    We will try to group these top 10 boxers according to who can fight who.

    Group 1:
    1. Manny Pacquiao
    2. JM Marquez
    9. Hatton

    Group 2:
    3. Calzaghe
    4. Hopkins

    Group 3:
    5. Israel Vazquez
    7. Rafael Marquez
    10. Celestino "THE TOWERING INFERNO" Caballero

    Group 4:
    6. Mosley

    Group 5:
    8. Ivan Calderon


    According to this groupings, Caballero should fight Vazquez or Rafa next...

    Mosley might be too big for group 1 boxers... Ivan is so lonely at the top...
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    Default Re: Celestino "THE TOWERING INFERNO" Caballero cracks Ring Mag's P4P List

    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer View Post
    1. Manny Pacquiao
    2. JM Marquez
    3. Calzaghe
    4. Hopkins
    5. Israel Vazquez
    6. Mosley
    7. Rafael Marquez
    8. Ivan Calderon
    9. Hatton
    10. Celestino "THE TOWERING INFERNO" Caballero

    Hope Caballero can land a fight with no. 5 Izzy or no. 7 Rafa... 122 is a very hot division ...
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    Look at Mosley coming in at #6!! I find it odd that Caballero is entered now and not directly after beating Molitor, grats to him though.
    Why is Celestino Caballero there though ? other fighters like.

    Chad Dawson
    Chris John
    Sergiy Dzinziruk
    Vic Darchinyan

    ETC.

    I think all these fighters have a much better case, Steve Molitor was a good fighter. But he was still unproven IMO, and he wasn't really close to the top 10 P4P rankings, i just find it odd why now they choose to have Celestino Caballero there.
    Last edited by ICB; 01-27-2009 at 09:27 AM.

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    Default Re: Celestino "THE TOWERING INFERNO" Caballero cracks Ring Mag's P4P List

    I personally would have Dawson at 10.

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    Default Re: Celestino "THE TOWERING INFERNO" Caballero cracks Ring Mag's P4P List

    Caballero's wins over Ponce De Leon, Somsak, Lorenzo Parra, Steve Molitor got some recognition...

    Roberto Duran might also have elevated Caballero's popularity...
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    Default Re: Celestino "THE TOWERING INFERNO" Caballero cracks Ring Mag's P4P List

    I had no idea Caballero was closing in on the top 10 p4p. I thought he would be in the 14-20 range.

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    Default Re: Celestino "THE TOWERING INFERNO" Caballero cracks Ring Mag's P4P List

    he should go up two DIVISION'S

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    Default Re: Celestino "THE TOWERING INFERNO" Caballero cracks Ring Mag's P4P List

    Should of been in there after beating Parra.

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    Default Re: Celestino "THE TOWERING INFERNO" Caballero cracks Ring Mag's P4P List

    disagree
    but he wont be up there for long if someone get an impressive win he'll get knockdown like paul williams

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    Default Re: Celestino "THE TOWERING INFERNO" Caballero cracks Ring Mag's P4P List

    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Should of been in there after beating Parra.
    Certainly debatable but I think maybe he should have, you can make that case for many other fighters though.

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    Default Re: Celestino "THE TOWERING INFERNO" Caballero cracks Ring Mag's P4P List

    Quote Originally Posted by Kel View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Should of been in there after beating Parra.
    Certainly debatable but I think maybe he should have, you can make that case for many other fighters though.
    I agree. There other fighters that are worthy. But I like the Caballero choice. Molitor was far from great. And I think will wind up being an overrated fighter (if he's not already). But he was undefeated. And had a following of believers. Caballero deserves credit for exposing him.

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    Default Re: Celestino "THE TOWERING INFERNO" Caballero cracks Ring Mag's P4P List

    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer View Post
    1. Manny Pacquiao
    2. JM Marquez
    3. Calzaghe
    4. Hopkins
    5. Israel Vazquez
    6. Mosley
    7. Rafael Marquez
    8. Ivan Calderon
    9. Hatton
    10. Celestino "THE TOWERING INFERNO" Caballero

    Hope Caballero can land a fight with no. 5 Izzy or no. 7 Rafa... 122 is a very hot division ...
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    Look at Mosley coming in at #6!! I find it odd that Caballero is entered now and not directly after beating Molitor, grats to him though.
    With Margarito exiting it meant Cotto also went which created an vacant spot. Had Margarito won Cotto would have remained!

    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer View Post
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    Why is Celestino Caballero there though ? other fighters like.

    Chad Dawson
    Chris John
    Sergiy Dzinziruk
    Vic Darchinyan

    ETC.

    I think all these fighters have a much better case, Steve Molitor was a good fighter. But he was still unproven IMO, and he wasn't really close to the top 10 P4P rankings, i just find it odd why now they choose to have Celestino Caballero there.
    Chad arguably lost to Johnson, John has done nothing since fighting Marquez & that win is disputable, Caballero's opposition is superior to Dzindziruk's imo & Donaire would have to be above Darchinyan! Caballero has a good argument to be there!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer View Post
    Caballero's wins over Ponce De Leon, Somsak, Lorenzo Parra, Steve Molitor got some recognition...
    Exactly! Some quality & dominate wins there!!!
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    Default Re: Celestino "THE TOWERING INFERNO" Caballero cracks Ring Mag's P4P List

    Quote Originally Posted by Galaxy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer View Post
    1. Manny Pacquiao
    2. JM Marquez
    3. Calzaghe
    4. Hopkins
    5. Israel Vazquez
    6. Mosley
    7. Rafael Marquez
    8. Ivan Calderon
    9. Hatton
    10. Celestino "THE TOWERING INFERNO" Caballero

    Hope Caballero can land a fight with no. 5 Izzy or no. 7 Rafa... 122 is a very hot division ...
    .
    Look at Mosley coming in at #6!! I find it odd that Caballero is entered now and not directly after beating Molitor, grats to him though.
    With Margarito exiting it meant Cotto also went which created an vacant spot. Had Margarito won Cotto would have remained!

    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post

    Why is Celestino Caballero there though ? other fighters like.

    Chad Dawson
    Chris John
    Sergiy Dzinziruk
    Vic Darchinyan

    ETC.

    I think all these fighters have a much better case, Steve Molitor was a good fighter. But he was still unproven IMO, and he wasn't really close to the top 10 P4P rankings, i just find it odd why now they choose to have Celestino Caballero there.
    Chad arguably lost to Johnson, John has done nothing since fighting Marquez & that win is disputable, Caballero's opposition is superior to Dzindziruk's imo & Donaire would have to be above Darchinyan! Caballero has a good argument to be there!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer View Post
    Caballero's wins over Ponce De Leon, Somsak, Lorenzo Parra, Steve Molitor got some recognition...
    Exactly! Some quality & dominate wins there!!!

    It is closer than that.

    Dzinzurik beat Daniel Santos, Konecny, and Joel Julio and is undefeated after 36 professional fights. Maybe he is just very close to the top ten. One more win over a quality opponent should land him in there.

    John merits a spot or very close to a spot if he wins his fight in February.

    Since losing to Donaire, Darchinyan been very active. He has fought four times with wins over Kirilov and Mijares who was a top ten p4p. Donaire has fought twice and neither fight was on the level of Mijares. Nonetheless, Vic should make the list if he beats Arce.

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    Default Re: Celestino "THE TOWERING INFERNO" Caballero cracks Ring Mag's P4P List

    Quote Originally Posted by Pugilistic View Post
    I personally would have Dawson at 10.
    Dawson got pasy johnson by the skin of his teeth, and beat Tarver, that's it. Man the guy looks like he has skills but has done nothing at all to be spoken about as a top 10 p4p fighter in the world right now... not even close.

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