Celestino "THE TOWERING INFERNO" Caballero cracks Ring Mag's P4P List

[killersheep]

1. Manny Pacquiao
2. JM Marquez
3. Calzaghe
4. Hopkins
5. Israel Vazquez
6. Mosley
7. Rafael Marquez
8. Ivan Calderon
9. Hatton
10. Celestino "THE TOWERING INFERNO" Caballero

Hope Caballero can land a fight with no. 5 Izzy or no. 7 Rafa... 122 is a very hot division ...
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Look at Mosley coming in at #6!! I find it odd that Caballero is entered now and not directly after beating Molitor, grats to him though.

[XaduBoxer]

We will try to group these top 10 boxers according to who can fight who.

Group 1:
1. Manny Pacquiao
2. JM Marquez
9. Hatton

Group 2:
3. Calzaghe
4. Hopkins

Group 3:
5. Israel Vazquez
7. Rafael Marquez
10. Celestino "THE TOWERING INFERNO" Caballero

Group 4:
6. Mosley

Group 5:
8. Ivan Calderon


According to this groupings, Caballero should fight Vazquez or Rafa next...

Mosley might be too big for group 1 boxers... Ivan is so lonely at the top...
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[ICB]

1. Manny Pacquiao
2. JM Marquez
3. Calzaghe
4. Hopkins
5. Israel Vazquez
6. Mosley
7. Rafael Marquez
8. Ivan Calderon
9. Hatton
10. Celestino "THE TOWERING INFERNO" Caballero

Hope Caballero can land a fight with no. 5 Izzy or no. 7 Rafa... 122 is a very hot division ...
.

Look at Mosley coming in at #6!! I find it odd that Caballero is entered now and not directly after beating Molitor, grats to him though.

Why is Celestino Caballero there though ? other fighters like.

Chad Dawson
Chris John
Sergiy Dzinziruk
Vic Darchinyan

ETC.

I think all these fighters have a much better case, Steve Molitor was a good fighter. But he was still unproven IMO, and he wasn't really close to the top 10 P4P rankings, i just find it odd why now they choose to have Celestino Caballero there.

[Pugilistic]

I personally would have Dawson at 10.

[XaduBoxer]

Caballero's wins over Ponce De Leon, Somsak, Lorenzo Parra, Steve Molitor got some recognition...

Roberto Duran might also have elevated Caballero's popularity...
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[TigerFan]

I had no idea Caballero was closing in on the top 10 p4p. I thought he would be in the 14-20 range.

[DNUTS]

he should go up two DIVISION'S

[Violent Demise]

Should of been in there after beating Parra.

[SaltyBacon]

disagree
but he wont be up there for long if someone get an impressive win he'll get knockdown like paul williams

[Preme]

I personally would have Dawson at 10.

Dawson got pasy johnson by the skin of his teeth, and beat Tarver, that's it. Man the guy looks like he has skills but has done nothing at all to be spoken about as a top 10 p4p fighter in the world right now... not even close.

[ICB]

I personally would have Dawson at 10.

Dawson got pasy johnson by the skin of his teeth, and beat Tarver, that's it. Man the guy looks like he has skills but has done nothing at all to be spoken about as a top 10 p4p fighter in the world right now... not even close.

What about Tomasz Adamek ? Eric Harding ?

[killersheep]

I personally would have Dawson at 10.

Dawson got pasy johnson by the skin of his teeth, and beat Tarver, that's it. Man the guy looks like he has skills but has done nothing at all to be spoken about as a top 10 p4p fighter in the world right now... not even close.

What about Tomasz Adamek ? Eric Harding ?

Eric Harding didn't mean shit at that point of Harding's career. Adamek on the other hand is a huge win. Still, Point in fact Caballero is a unified strap holder in one of, if not the deepest division in boxing. His wins over an undefeated DPDL and Molitor are a huge acheivement.

[ICB]

Dawson got pasy johnson by the skin of his teeth, and beat Tarver, that's it. Man the guy looks like he has skills but has done nothing at all to be spoken about as a top 10 p4p fighter in the world right now... not even close.

What about Tomasz Adamek ? Eric Harding ?

Eric Harding didn't mean shit at that point of Harding's career. Adamek on the other hand is a huge win. Still, Point in fact Caballero is a unified strap holder in one of, if not the deepest division in boxing. His wins over an undefeated DPDL and Molitor are a huge acheivement.

It still was a good win regardless yes Eric Harding wasn't in his prime, but he was still a good fighter who was atleast top 6 in the division if my memory serves me right.

[Kev]

Dawson got pasy johnson by the skin of his teeth, and beat Tarver, that's it. Man the guy looks like he has skills but has done nothing at all to be spoken about as a top 10 p4p fighter in the world right now... not even close.

What about Tomasz Adamek ? Eric Harding ?

Eric Harding didn't mean shit at that point of Harding's career. Adamek on the other hand is a huge win. Still, Point in fact Caballero is a unified strap holder in one of, if not the deepest division in boxing. His wins over an undefeated DPDL and Molitor are a huge acheivement.

I think Adamek and Tarver are bigger wins than Molitor and De Leon personally, Adamek is now the Ring Champion at cruiserweight and Tarver has been the Ring Champ at light heavyweight and looked great in regaining his title over Clinton Woods in the fight prior.

I like Molitor but let's be real he was a paper champ, hadn't fought anyone remotely world class. De Leon, well I think he's been exposed a bit now.

Cabellero is definitely fighting in the strongest division, but he's not faced any of the best in that division yet, Vazquez, Marquez, Lopez are still fights that need to be made.

But I don't really object to him being there, he certainly looked great in taking Molitor apart and he'll spell trouble for anyone in that division.

[Kev]

I personally would have Dawson at 10.

Dawson got pasy johnson by the skin of his teeth, and beat Tarver, that's it. Man the guy looks like he has skills but has done nothing at all to be spoken about as a top 10 p4p fighter in the world right now... not even close.

What about Tomasz Adamek ? Eric Harding ?

It's not worth debating Preme the kid is a moron.

I agree with you Ice, suprised to see Caballero in the top 10. Dawson is definitely closing in, ignoring what Preme says wins over Johnson, Adamek and Tarver are all great performances, especially seeing as Tarver shutout Clinton Woods in the fight prior and Adamek has gone on to score two huge wins at cruiserweight against O'Neil Bell and Steve Cunningham.

I'd probably have Paul Williams above Cabellero too, big wins over Margartio, Quintana and Phillips.

Still it's good Cabellero is getting recognition at least, he has some impressive wins.