What discribes Jermain Taylor better?

[Markusdarkus]

World-Ranked or Elite.

[CutMeMick]

Def. not elite....
He's the former Undisputed Middleweight Champ. (not bad if you ask me)
Soon to be Contender in the SMW div.

[CFH]

He has the skills to be elite, but I would classify him as world-ranked (out of those two options).

[amat]

He's a very very talented fighter imo who's biggest flaw is his own head. He's not the smartest fighter and I imagine he'll kick himself when he's older in a "If I knew then what I know now" type deal. Should throw the jab more and should throw more combinations. But the jab is the key. He should be throwing it all the time it's one of the best jabs in boxing when he does.

[CFH]

He's a very very talented fighter imo who's biggest flaw is his own head. He's not the smartest fighter and I imagine he'll kick himself when he's older in a "If I knew then what I know now" type deal. Should throw the jab more and should throw more combinations. But the jab is the key. He should be throwing it all the time it's one of the best jabs in boxing when he does.

All that nervous energy he displays isn't helping him either.

[BoxingGorilla]

World-Ranked or Elite.

If he wasn't world ranked I may be inclinded to say elite even though he isn't really elite because if he wasn't world ranked I couldn't very well claim he was.

[Preme]

Overrated, mentaly week, a middleweight version of Zab judah if you will

Has all the tools to do great things, but never will.

sad realy.

[amat]

Overrated, mentaly week, a middleweight version of Zab judah if you will

Has all the tools to do great things, but never will.

sad realy.

I don't think he's a Zab Judah because he's never really been broken down it's like CFH said he's just nervous in there and seems a bit dumb at times. But he's never been taken out of a fight completely except when he got KO'd by Pavlik and then came back very strong in the rematch. I think he has problems adapting to the fight as it folds out in the ring but not like Judah where he breaks down fight in and fight out.

Zab is the man though.

[Mar]

Jermain is a great fighter who got away from what got him the belt in the first place in order to try and please fans....sucks you can beat b-hop, be a champion have very few losses and be described no negativly. With what little some may say he did accomplish it's more than most have done in thier lifetimes. How many of us can say for whatever reason we are the best at any point in the world at what we do....i do however agree with most of the faults people have stated here, this is just how i see the guy.

[amat]

Jermain is a great fighter who got away from what got him the belt in the first place in order to try and please fans....sucks you can beat b-hop, be a champion have very few losses and be described no negativly. With what little some may say he did accomplish it's more than most have done in thier lifetimes. How many of us can say for whatever reason we are the best at any point in the world at what we do....i do however agree with most of the faults people have stated here, this is just how i see the guy.

I agree Jermain has gotten a very bad shake and even his competition has been criticized which is just ridiculous to me. He fought B Hop twice and beat him twice no matter how you feel it went, it was close enough each time and I don't think Jermain lost either.

Then he went and fought the number 2 P4P guy in the world in Winky and they put on a really good fight. I thought Wright won and am still pretty bitter about that but again it was close.

I can see how people didn't like him versus Spinks and at that time he was getting sold down the river for not fighting Edison Miranda of all people. Then gave Pavlik his chance in two competitive fights.

Yet people hate Jermain Taylor. I said before the Pavlik fight that if I could put one fight on national broadcast TV that year it was that one. I don't think I was far off. Very well spoken, nice guy I'm rooting for him at 168.

[Markusdarkus]

Ok i get the feeling you guys class him as world ranked.

If i stated this thread a day prior to the first Pavlik fight would he be classed as elite. My question is was Taylor ever regarded as elite in your eyes?

[bcollins]

Jermain is a great fighter who got away from what got him the belt in the first place in order to try and please fans....sucks you can beat b-hop, be a champion have very few losses and be described no negativly. With what little some may say he did accomplish it's more than most have done in thier lifetimes. How many of us can say for whatever reason we are the best at any point in the world at what we do....i do however agree with most of the faults people have stated here, this is just how i see the guy.

I agree Jermain has gotten a very bad shake and even his competition has been criticized which is just ridiculous to me. He fought B Hop twice and beat him twice no matter how you feel it went, it was close enough each time and I don't think Jermain lost either.

Then he went and fought the number 2 P4P guy in the world in Winky and they put on a really good fight. I thought Wright won and am still pretty bitter about that but again it was close.

I can see how people didn't like him versus Spinks and at that time he was getting sold down the river for not fighting Edison Miranda of all people. Then gave Pavlik his chance in two competitive fights.

Yet people hate Jermain Taylor. I said before the Pavlik fight that if I could put one fight on national broadcast TV that year it was that one. I don't think I was far off. Very well spoken, nice guy I'm rooting for him at 168.

You have to be crazy to criticize his competition! I really hope he can get back on track - Pavlik's a tough fight for anyone, and his performance in the rematch showed he has the ability to do just that.

[SigmaMu]

He was ranked and he was elite.

Still a good fighter.

Taylor vs Pavlik III @ 160
Yum, yum!

Both of their fights were great fights.

But where does Taylor belong? @ 160 or 168?
He did much better at 166 against Pavlik.

Sad we have not heard anything about JT since his last fight.

Did he retire?


He is 29 years old and still has a few more years to make another run if he is hungry enough.
The fact that he came back to face Pavlik in a rematch, shows tremendous heart. He can't be done.

[Markusdarkus]

He was ranked and he was elite.

Still a good fighter.

Taylor vs Pavlik III @ 160
Yum, yum!

Both of their fights were great fights.

But where does Taylor belong? @ 160 or 168?
He did much better at 166 against Pavlik.

Sad we have not heard anything about JT since his last fight.

Did he retire?


He is 29 years old and still has a few more years to make another run if he is hungry enough.
The fact that he came back to face Pavlik in a rematch, shows tremendous heart. He can't be done.

I think he will be better at 168lbs he said after the second Hopkins fight (you know when Hopkins stopped moaning for a second) that he Found 160lbs a strain.

When you look at taylor the man looks like a wedge his shoulders are massive but his waist tiny.

I like him good fighter i just dont think he knows how good he is and i dont think he has found his boxing style yet. He seems to lack solid game plans in fights he looks to make them up mid fight.

[BoxingGorilla]

Ok i get the feeling you guys class him as world ranked.

If i stated this thread a day prior to the first Pavlik fight would he be classed as elite. My question is was Taylor ever regarded as elite in your eyes?

I'm not trying to be a prick, it just comes naturally. Your original question doesn't really jive, MarDar.

It's fact vs. opinion. Taylor is either world ranked or he isn't.