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    Default What Past Boxers Could Have Beat Joe Calzaghe ??

    My list im not including really old boxers from the SRR's era.

    Mike McCallum
    Michael Nunn
    James Toney
    Roy Jones Jr
    Herol Graham
    Thomas Hearns
    Michael Watson
    Gerald McClellan

    Just a quick list.

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    Default Re: What Past Boxers Could Have Beat Joe Calzaghe ??

    A prime Roy is too much for anyone to handle IMO at 160-175 over last 20 years. Toney has a shot, but there are so many ifs/buts/couldn't be assed training thing with him that JC outworks him 8 fights out of 10.
    p4p I rate Mike Mccallum above JC, rate him really high, but his best weight was below 168 and JC gets the nod.

    Hearns nowhere near joe's level at 168 IMO, goes for Watson as well. G-man would be a barnburner (against a younger version of Joe), but I'd pick Joe to win again 8 out of 10 since he always finds a way to win in a tough fight, which is a quality he has that rarely gets appreciated, you can try and quantify and compare fighter's hand speed, power, chin, stamina, whatever- botton line is Joe is a winner.

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    Les Darcy would have slaughtered him.
    “If you even dream of beating me you'd better wake up and apologize.” Muhammad Ali.

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    A prime Roy is too much for anyone to handle IMO at 160-175 over last 20 years. Toney has a shot, but there are so many ifs/buts/couldn't be assed training thing with him that JC outworks him 8 fights out of 10.
    p4p I rate Mike Mccallum above JC, rate him really high, but his best weight was below 168 and JC gets the nod.

    Hearns nowhere near joe's level at 168 IMO, goes for Watson as well. G-man would be a barnburner (against a younger version of Joe), but I'd pick Joe to win again 8 out of 10 since he always finds a way to win in a tough fight, which is a quality he has that rarely gets appreciated, you can try and quantify and compare fighter's hand speed, power, chin, stamina, whatever- botton line is Joe is a winner.
    I agree its an intersting thought, but apart from Roy who was truly special there is no one on that list who you could say with out doubt whould have destroyed JC at SM some good fights though
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    Default Re: What Past Boxers Could Have Beat Joe Calzaghe ??

    Now that Calzaghe is fighting at light heavy, you can add Evander Holyfield, Michael Spinks, Dwight Muhammed Qawi, Eddie Mustafa Muhammed, Matthew Saad Muhammed

    Those ones for sure.

    If you include probablies, you can add Yaqui Lopez, John Conteh, Marvin Johnson, Victor Galindez, James Scott.

    I'm sure there are others.

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    Default Re: What Past Boxers Could Have Beat Joe Calzaghe ??

    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    My list im not including really old boxers from the SRR's era.

    Mike McCallum
    Michael Nunn
    James Toney
    Roy Jones Jr
    Herol Graham
    Thomas Hearns
    Michael Watson
    Gerald McClellan

    Just a quick list.


    Only one i could go for is Roy Jones, Toney v Calzaghe would be a good close fight (Not the Toney that fought Jones) the rest were best at 154/160.

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    Prime Hopkins

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    Chris eubank in his prime

    James Toney

    Roy Jones

    Robin Reid i think Robin did beat him first time he deserved rematch

    Nigel Benn in his prime

    Herol graham

    Thomas Hearns

    Sugar ray leonard

    Bernard Hopkins in his prime

    Steve collins

    Glenn Johnson

    The G man

    I could probably think of more just a few off top of my head.

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    Default Re: What Past Boxers Could Have Beat Joe Calzaghe ??

    Quote Originally Posted by tysonbruno View Post
    Chris eubank in his prime

    James Toney

    Roy Jones

    Robin Reid i think Robin did beat him first time he deserved rematch

    Nigel Benn in his prime

    Herol graham

    Thomas Hearns

    Sugar ray leonard

    Bernard Hopkins in his prime

    Steve collins

    Glenn Johnson

    The G man

    I could probably think of more just a few off top of my head.

    If were talking prime 2002-2005 Calzaghe at 168lbs only Roy Jones, Hopkins would get beat worse than the old version as he would try to fight Calzaghe and get pasted and again wins over tito and Oscar cannot possibly lead me to believe he beats Joe.

    The rest Joe would box their heads off.

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    Default Re: What Past Boxers Could Have Beat Joe Calzaghe ??

    err Herol Graham ? Dont think so...

    People so hard on Calzaghe ,
    Thats cricket

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    Default Re: What Past Boxers Could Have Beat Joe Calzaghe ??

    Quote Originally Posted by Markusdarkus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by tysonbruno View Post
    Chris eubank in his prime

    James Toney

    Roy Jones

    Robin Reid i think Robin did beat him first time he deserved rematch

    Nigel Benn in his prime

    Herol graham

    Thomas Hearns

    Sugar ray leonard

    Bernard Hopkins in his prime

    Steve collins

    Glenn Johnson

    The G man

    I could probably think of more just a few off top of my head.

    If were talking prime 2002-2005 Calzaghe at 168lbs only Roy Jones, Hopkins would get beat worse than the old version as he would try to fight Calzaghe and get pasted and again wins over tito and Oscar cannot possibly lead me to believe he beats Joe.

    The rest Joe would box their heads off.
    Hopkins would get beat worse to be fair you could argue he won at 43, imagine the Hopkins that faced Glen Johnson, that Hopkins would dominate Calzaghe.

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    Default Re: What Past Boxers Could Have Beat Joe Calzaghe ??

    It would depend on the weight and period. This thread is too random. At 168 Calzaghe has a chance against anyone.

    Not a well thought out thread.

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    Default Re: What Past Boxers Could Have Beat Joe Calzaghe ??

    Well remember that Joe fought most of his career @ 168, under the new weigh-in rules. Joe's talked about how tough it was to make 168, so mos tlikely he'd be a light-heavyweight under the day-of-the-fight weigh in procedures.

    There's quite a few light-heavyweights I'd pick over him (Foster, Spinks, Qawi to name a few). Of the more recent fighters, I'd pick a prime Roy over Calzaghe. Probably Toney at 168 as well. And the Hopkins of the late 90s/early 00s. I don't picture Hopkins having too much trouble going up one weight class to 168. Even though he made 160 rather easily, he was always a physically strong guy.

    I don't like Hearns and Leonard's chances that much. They were too small and not the same fighters they had been when they fought around the 168-175 range (SRL had some help with the weight and the WBC for those titles).

    Maybe the Hearns of the mid 80s that went to light-heavy wins over Joe. I don't think the 1991-92 version wins though.
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    Default Re: What Past Boxers Could Have Beat Joe Calzaghe ??

    Quote Originally Posted by ds91 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Markusdarkus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by tysonbruno View Post
    Chris eubank in his prime

    James Toney

    Roy Jones

    Robin Reid i think Robin did beat him first time he deserved rematch

    Nigel Benn in his prime

    Herol graham

    Thomas Hearns

    Sugar ray leonard

    Bernard Hopkins in his prime

    Steve collins

    Glenn Johnson

    The G man

    I could probably think of more just a few off top of my head.

    If were talking prime 2002-2005 Calzaghe at 168lbs only Roy Jones, Hopkins would get beat worse than the old version as he would try to fight Calzaghe and get pasted and again wins over tito and Oscar cannot possibly lead me to believe he beats Joe.

    The rest Joe would box their heads off.
    Hopkins would get beat worse to be fair you could argue he won at 43, imagine the Hopkins that faced Glen Johnson, that Hopkins would dominate Calzaghe.

    Styles make fights, Hopkins would have opened up and been hit. The only way to beat Calzaghe is to let him lead whilst staying off the ropes. I think Taylor would be a tougher fight for Joe than Pavlik again styles.

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    Default Re: What Past Boxers Could Have Beat Joe Calzaghe ??

    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    My list im not including really old boxers from the SRR's era.

    Mike McCallum
    Michael Nunn
    James Toney
    Roy Jones Jr
    Herol Graham
    Thomas Hearns
    Michael Watson
    Gerald McClellan

    Just a quick list.
    it is very simpel - NONE

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