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    Default Re: What Past Boxers Could Have Beat Joe Calzaghe ??

    Quote Originally Posted by Markusdarkus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by tysonbruno View Post
    Chris eubank in his prime

    James Toney

    Roy Jones

    Robin Reid i think Robin did beat him first time he deserved rematch

    Nigel Benn in his prime

    Herol graham

    Thomas Hearns

    Sugar ray leonard

    Bernard Hopkins in his prime

    Steve collins

    Glenn Johnson

    The G man

    I could probably think of more just a few off top of my head.

    If were talking prime 2002-2005 Calzaghe at 168lbs only Roy Jones, Hopkins would get beat worse than the old version as he would try to fight Calzaghe and get pasted and again wins over tito and Oscar cannot possibly lead me to believe he beats Joe.

    The rest Joe would box their heads off.
    Hopkins would get beat worse to be fair you could argue he won at 43, imagine the Hopkins that faced Glen Johnson, that Hopkins would dominate Calzaghe.

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    Default Re: What Past Boxers Could Have Beat Joe Calzaghe ??

    It would depend on the weight and period. This thread is too random. At 168 Calzaghe has a chance against anyone.

    Not a well thought out thread.

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    Default Re: What Past Boxers Could Have Beat Joe Calzaghe ??

    Well remember that Joe fought most of his career @ 168, under the new weigh-in rules. Joe's talked about how tough it was to make 168, so mos tlikely he'd be a light-heavyweight under the day-of-the-fight weigh in procedures.

    There's quite a few light-heavyweights I'd pick over him (Foster, Spinks, Qawi to name a few). Of the more recent fighters, I'd pick a prime Roy over Calzaghe. Probably Toney at 168 as well. And the Hopkins of the late 90s/early 00s. I don't picture Hopkins having too much trouble going up one weight class to 168. Even though he made 160 rather easily, he was always a physically strong guy.

    I don't like Hearns and Leonard's chances that much. They were too small and not the same fighters they had been when they fought around the 168-175 range (SRL had some help with the weight and the WBC for those titles).

    Maybe the Hearns of the mid 80s that went to light-heavy wins over Joe. I don't think the 1991-92 version wins though.
    Last edited by Thread Stealer; 06-27-2008 at 04:39 PM.

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    It would depend on the weight and period. This thread is too random. At 168 Calzaghe has a chance against anyone.

    Not a well thought out thread.
    Not a well thought out thread because its a question on who could have beaten one of your favorite fighters ?? its just a question and its got plenty of replies which means people were interested in the question, which is the whole idea. This isn't supposed to be an award winning thread.

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    Default Re: What Past Boxers Could Have Beat Joe Calzaghe ??

    Quote Originally Posted by ds91 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Markusdarkus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by tysonbruno View Post
    Chris eubank in his prime

    James Toney

    Roy Jones

    Robin Reid i think Robin did beat him first time he deserved rematch

    Nigel Benn in his prime

    Herol graham

    Thomas Hearns

    Sugar ray leonard

    Bernard Hopkins in his prime

    Steve collins

    Glenn Johnson

    The G man

    I could probably think of more just a few off top of my head.

    If were talking prime 2002-2005 Calzaghe at 168lbs only Roy Jones, Hopkins would get beat worse than the old version as he would try to fight Calzaghe and get pasted and again wins over tito and Oscar cannot possibly lead me to believe he beats Joe.

    The rest Joe would box their heads off.
    Hopkins would get beat worse to be fair you could argue he won at 43, imagine the Hopkins that faced Glen Johnson, that Hopkins would dominate Calzaghe.

    Styles make fights, Hopkins would have opened up and been hit. The only way to beat Calzaghe is to let him lead whilst staying off the ropes. I think Taylor would be a tougher fight for Joe than Pavlik again styles.

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    Default Re: What Past Boxers Could Have Beat Joe Calzaghe ??

    Quote Originally Posted by Markusdarkus View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Markusdarkus View Post


    If were talking prime 2002-2005 Calzaghe at 168lbs only Roy Jones, Hopkins would get beat worse than the old version as he would try to fight Calzaghe and get pasted and again wins over tito and Oscar cannot possibly lead me to believe he beats Joe.

    The rest Joe would box their heads off.
    Hopkins would get beat worse to be fair you could argue he won at 43, imagine the Hopkins that faced Glen Johnson, that Hopkins would dominate Calzaghe.

    Styles make fights, Hopkins would have opened up and been hit. The only way to beat Calzaghe is to let him lead whilst staying off the ropes. I think Taylor would be a tougher fight for Joe than Pavlik again styles.
    Hopkins in his prime was still hard to hit, Calzaghe is not so hard to hit especially with the right hand, Hopkins best punch. combine his accuracy with a higher workrate and you got a Hopkins UD.

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    If were talking prime 2002-2005 Calzaghe at 168lbs only Roy Jones, Hopkins would get beat worse than the old version as he would try to fight Calzaghe and get pasted and again wins over tito and Oscar cannot possibly lead me to believe he beats Joe.

    The rest Joe would box their heads off.
    Hopkins would get beat worse to be fair you could argue he won at 43, imagine the Hopkins that faced Glen Johnson, that Hopkins would dominate Calzaghe.

    Styles make fights, Hopkins would have opened up and been hit. The only way to beat Calzaghe is to let him lead whilst staying off the ropes. I think Taylor would be a tougher fight for Joe than Pavlik again styles.
    Oh please you compared Hopkins to Skelton thats how much you know on Hopkins, if your such a big Calzaghe fan you would realize Calzaghe has struggled in rough fights before with Salem, Bika, Reid, etc which Hopkins was a master of in his prime and he even broke Glen Johnson's will. A young Hopkins was a punching machine and still had great skills to go along with it, the old Hopkins lost purely because he didn't have the work rate or the stamina to fight for the full 12 rounds which wasn't the case with the younger Hopkins, i suggest you do some homework on a younger Hopkins and don't just base him off a few of his older fights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ds91 View Post

    Hopkins would get beat worse to be fair you could argue he won at 43, imagine the Hopkins that faced Glen Johnson, that Hopkins would dominate Calzaghe.

    Styles make fights, Hopkins would have opened up and been hit. The only way to beat Calzaghe is to let him lead whilst staying off the ropes. I think Taylor would be a tougher fight for Joe than Pavlik again styles.
    Oh please you compared Hopkins to Skelton thats how much you know on Hopkins, if your such a big Calzaghe fan you would realize Calzaghe has struggled in rough fights before with Salem, Bika, Reid, etc which Hopkins was a master of in his prime and he even broke Glen Johnson's will. A young Hopkins was a punching machine and still had great skills to go along with it, the old Hopkins lost purely because he didn't have the work rate or the stamina to fight for the full 12 rounds which wasn't the case with the younger Hopkins, i suggest you do some homework on a younger Hopkins and don't just base him off a few of his older fights.


    I have Hopkins career at home and he still doesnt beat Calzaghe the only version that had a chance was the version coming off his best B2B wins. People forget he took tarver to school and beat Winky in the two fights prior.

    And i said i find Skelton and Hopkins the worst fighters to watch they dont try and wion fights but mug and steal fights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markusdarkus View Post
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    Styles make fights, Hopkins would have opened up and been hit. The only way to beat Calzaghe is to let him lead whilst staying off the ropes. I think Taylor would be a tougher fight for Joe than Pavlik again styles.
    Oh please you compared Hopkins to Skelton thats how much you know on Hopkins, if your such a big Calzaghe fan you would realize Calzaghe has struggled in rough fights before with Salem, Bika, Reid, etc which Hopkins was a master of in his prime and he even broke Glen Johnson's will. A young Hopkins was a punching machine and still had great skills to go along with it, the old Hopkins lost purely because he didn't have the work rate or the stamina to fight for the full 12 rounds which wasn't the case with the younger Hopkins, i suggest you do some homework on a younger Hopkins and don't just base him off a few of his older fights.


    I have Hopkins career at home and he still doesnt beat Calzaghe the only version that had a chance was the version coming off his best B2B wins. People forget he took tarver to school and beat Winky in the two fights prior.

    And i said i find Skelton and Hopkins the worst fighters to watch they dont try and wion fights but mug and steal fights.
    are you kidding me? Hopkins would of beat joe decisively if he had the workrate to keep up with him but at 43 it just wasn't there and thats why the fight was close. A younger Hopkins would of threw more, landed more and would win a UD, and when you reply to this post actually reply with knowledge on why Calzaghe would beat a younger Hopkins.

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    Both Hopkins and Roy Jones of the late 90's early 2000's would have destroyed Calzaghe.Calzaghe for me is overrated his major threat in 45 fights was Kessler other than that he took an easy route he never chased the big names like Hopkins and Jones and so on when they were in there primes he wouldn't even rematch Robin Reid who many thought beat Calzaghe and lets have it right he was basically beat by a 43 year old Hopkins it was his closest fight ever.

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    Smile Re: What Past Boxers Could Have Beat Joe Calzaghe ??

    In 45 fights these are the best he has fought.

    Chris Eubank:
    Who came in at short notice had to lose 11lbs in 7 days Eubanks was past his best but still gave Calzaghe a good fight one of his toughest in fact but this did show us what Calzaghe was made of.

    Robin Reid:
    Who in my eyes beat him alot of people thought so as well he should have at least got a rematch.

    Omar Sheika:
    Lets have it right this was a guy who got beat by Tony Booth for god sake.

    Richie Woodhall:
    A good fighter won a WBC world title at super middle but he nearly got beat by Glenn Catley many thought he did get beat.Then he got beat by Markus Beyer and lost his world title.Woodhall was a good fighter but just good not outstanding.

    Charles Brewer:
    This guy lost twice to Sven Ottke he had 8 losses before he got to Calzaghe and Calzaghe had some rough times in this fight and he should have KO'd Brewer in my opinion for it to be a impressive win.

    Byron Mitchell:
    A fairly good puncher won a world title vs Frankie Liles TKO11 but then went on in his first defence and drew with Bruno girard then lost it in his 2nd defence in a rematch vs Gerard.In his fight before Calzaghe lost vs Sven Ottke so it was a safe bet for Calzaghe to win.Calzaghe got dropped heavy but came back to KO mitchell a good win.

    Jeff Lacy:
    IBF Super Middleweight champ but well overrated and overhyped.He had good power but relied on it he had struggled vs Omar Sheika so more reason for Calzaghe to fight him.Since his loss to Calzaghe Lacy has still failed to impress vs Tsypko and Manfredo so proves to a certain degree he was overhyped.

    Mikkel Kessler:
    39-0 a good solid fighter number 2 in the world WBC/WBA world champ.A good competetive fight hat off to Calzaghe for this win.

    Bernard Hopkins:
    43 year old former middleweight champ ranked number 1 at light heavy i think Hopkins won as do many others .

    I think calzaghe is overrated slightly i think people get caught up in the he's made 22 world title defences.yes he made 22 defences but went alot of easy routes to do it so could he beat a peak Hopkins or Jones or some of the other fighters alot of you have mentioned e.g G man,Toney and peak Eubank and so on the answer is NO!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markusdarkus View Post
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    If were talking prime 2002-2005 Calzaghe at 168lbs only Roy Jones, Hopkins would get beat worse than the old version as he would try to fight Calzaghe and get pasted and again wins over tito and Oscar cannot possibly lead me to believe he beats Joe.

    The rest Joe would box their heads off.
    Hopkins would get beat worse to be fair you could argue he won at 43, imagine the Hopkins that faced Glen Johnson, that Hopkins would dominate Calzaghe.

    Styles make fights, Hopkins would have opened up and been hit. The only way to beat Calzaghe is to let him lead whilst staying off the ropes. I think Taylor would be a tougher fight for Joe than Pavlik again styles.
    Hopkins in his prime didn't even open up too much. He just picked his shots better then he does now and could wear someone down.

    Hopkins prime even the Hopkins that fought Trinidad, would beat Calzaghe
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